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Author: | Mask*DeMasque [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:20 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
I know I probably just misunderstood something but... Spoiler: AAI case 2 |
Author: | Prosecutor Manella [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:40 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Mask*DeMasque wrote: I know I probably just misunderstood something but... Spoiler: AAI case 2 Spoiler: AAI-2 |
Author: | Mask*DeMasque [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Prosecutor Manella wrote: Mask*DeMasque wrote: I know I probably just misunderstood something but... Spoiler: AAI case 2 Spoiler: AAI-2 Spoiler: Not really a contradiction, but... (AAI-2 spoilers) |
Author: | Croik [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:37 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Mask*DeMasque wrote: I know I probably just misunderstood something but... Spoiler: AAI case 2 Spoiler: |
Author: | moonfall [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Not sure if this is a contradiction, exactly, but Spoiler: |
Author: | Mask*DeMasque [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:52 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Croik wrote: Mask*DeMasque wrote: I know I probably just misunderstood something but... Spoiler: AAI case 2 Spoiler: Spoiler: Case 2 |
Author: | Mask*DeMasque [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:53 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
moonfall wrote: Not sure if this is a contradiction, exactly, but Spoiler: Spoiler: |
Author: | Croik [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Mask*DeMasque wrote: Spoiler: Case 2 Spoiler: |
Author: | DecisiveYoshi [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:48 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Mask*DeMasque wrote: I know I probably just misunderstood something but... Spoiler: AAI case 2 Spoiler: AAI-2 |
Author: | FerdieLance [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:41 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Spoiler: Case 1 Spoiler: Case 2 Spoiler: Case 4 Spoiler: Case 5 |
Author: | Dylia [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:46 am ] |
Post subject: | Case 2 Translation Contradiction (Case 2 Spoilers) |
(This is not an in-game original script error, merely translation, so it should not go into GK Contradictions) 'Teneiro: So right now, we are still running on Borginian time!' If this is possible, when they drop off in Zheng Fa (WTF?), the cycle they will go in is Borginia (Europe) -> Zheng Fa (Asia) -> California (America). I know the original Japanese version obviously takes place in Japan, but what's your theory on this? Translation error or on purpose (I mean, this plane has everything.) |
Author: | Croik [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
All errors should go in here. There's no need to clutter the board with extra threads. Maybe the plane is so damn big that it's just easier for it to go with the jet stream than against?? I dunno. It's not so weird if you think of it as a trip from Europe to Zheng Fa, and then Zheng Fa to CA, with Zheng Fa as a destination and not simply a layover. |
Author: | whitehelm [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
It's possible I missed an explanation for this, but Spoiler: Case 5 |
Author: | Croik [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
whitehelm wrote: It's possible I missed an explanation for this, but Spoiler: Case 5 Spoiler: |
Author: | Mask*DeMasque [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
FerdieLance wrote: Spoiler: Case 1 Spoiler: Case 2 Spoiler: Case 4 Spoiler: Case 5 Spoiler: Case 1 and case 5 Spoiler: Case 2 Spoiler: Case 4 Spoiler: Case 5 |
Author: | Haru_San [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Hmm... I was just replaying case 5, and there's something that strikes me as odd... Spoiler: "AAI-5" |
Author: | FerdieLance [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Haru_san: Not a contradiction - it would have been a contradiction the other way around! Spoiler: AAI 5 |
Author: | Bad Player [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Mask*DeMasque wrote: Spoiler: Case 1 ...Thanks. That's spoilers for more than just case 1. |
Author: | Mask*DeMasque [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Bad Player wrote: Mask*DeMasque wrote: Spoiler: Case 1 ...Thanks. That's spoilers for more than just case 1. D'oh! Sorry, I wasn't thinking straight. I'll fix it now... |
Author: | Haru_San [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
FerdieLance wrote: Haru_san: Not a contradiction - it would have been a contradiction the other way around! Spoiler: AAI 5 You have a good point. Still... Spoiler: AAI-5 |
Author: | KingRei [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Spoiler: |
Author: | Mask*DeMasque [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
KingRei wrote: Spoiler: I'm not exactly sure I understand what you're saying. There are no non-canonical games in the series. |
Author: | KingRei [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Mask*DeMasque wrote: KingRei wrote: Spoiler: I'm not exactly sure I understand what you're saying. There are no non-canonical games in the series. 1-5 is non-canonical. It doesn't line up with the rest of PW's story. |
Author: | Croik [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
KingRei wrote: Spoiler: I don't know what you mean about Edgeworth's first case having anything to do with Lana - his first time in court was in 3-4. Sometime after that he was involved in SL-9. That was his first "big" case. GK-4 would have been his first case, if not for the events that take place. The fact that 1-5 isn't mentioned during JFA and T&T is a canonical oddity, but it doesn't mean that 1-5 is not canon. |
Author: | Mask*DeMasque [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:13 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
KingRei wrote: Mask*DeMasque wrote: KingRei wrote: Spoiler: I'm not exactly sure I understand what you're saying. There are no non-canonical games in the series. 1-5 is non-canonical. It doesn't line up with the rest of PW's story. It is canonical, as proven by AJ. The reason that it doesn't line up with the stories of JfA and T&T (i.e. Edgeworth's last appearance in court was 1-4) is because the games you know as "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney", "Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney: Justice for All" and "Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations" are actually remakes of Japanese Game Boy Advance games by the names of "Gyakuten Saiban", "Gyakuten Saiban 2" and "Gyakuten Saiban 3" respectively. The original Gyakuten Saiban only had cases 1 through 4. Case 5 was an addition to the DS remake of Gyakuten Saiban, released overseas as "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney". When they made remakes of Gyakuten Saiban 2 and 3, they didn't change the script to match what happened in 1-5. That is the reason that the stories of JfA and T&T do not match up with 1-5. HOWEVER! The fact that 1-5 is canonical is proven by characters from 1-5 appearing in Apollo Justice Spoiler: |
Author: | Gyakuten$aiban [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:44 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
I got this from a topic on GameFAQs but: Spoiler: Minor case 3 spoilers |
Author: | FerdieLance [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:06 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
GyakutenSaiban: Please mark spoilers. M*dM: Quote: Spoiler: Cases 1 + 5 Objection! Spoiler: Cases 1 + 5 Quote: Spoiler: Case 2 (Damage animation.) Argh! You're right! Quote: Spoiler: Case 4 Hold it! Spoiler: Case 4 Haru_san: Quote: Spoiler: Case 5 Objection! Let's do this scientifically! Spoiler: Case 5 |
Author: | Gyakuten$aiban [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:22 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Uh, very well. I wasn't really sure if that constituted a spoiler because I feel like I barely said anything that was relevant. It's not a glaring one like some of the others in this topic. It seems more like a logistical error than anything (they wrote it and never really thought through what they had written into the script). |
Author: | FerdieLance [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:37 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
It's a spoiler. To be fair, it's also a very real contradiction - maybe the most glaring one in the whole game. |
Author: | Mask*DeMasque [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:41 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
FerdieLance wrote: GyakutenSaiban: Please mark spoilers. M*dM: Quote: Spoiler: Cases 1 + 5 Objection! Spoiler: Cases 1 + 5 Quote: Spoiler: Case 2 (Damage animation.) Argh! You're right! Quote: Spoiler: Case 4 Hold it! Spoiler: Case 4 Spoiler: Case 1, 3 & 5 Spoiler: Case 4 Gyakuten$aiban wrote: Uh, very well. I wasn't really sure if that constituted a spoiler because I feel like I barely said anything that was relevant. You said something very relevant. Spoiler: Case 3 |
Author: | GigaHand [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
It took so long... I worked so hard... And there's still a small contradiction in the final result of AAI-5. Spoiler: |
Author: | Bad Player [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Spoiler: case 5 |
Author: | Croik [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:57 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
GigaHand wrote: It took so long... I worked so hard... And there's still a small contradiction in the final result of AAI-5. Spoiler: Spoiler: |
Author: | Jacks [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Interesting to note, only just occurred to me: Spoiler: Case 2 |
Author: | Bad Player [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Spoiler: Case 2 |
Author: | 626b [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Spoiler: Case 3 |
Author: | Jacks [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Bad Player wrote: Spoiler: Case 2 Spoiler: response |
Author: | Bad Player [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Jacks wrote: Bad Player wrote: Spoiler: Case 2 Spoiler: response Spoiler: case 2 |
Author: | Mask*DeMasque [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:28 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
626b wrote: Spoiler: Case 3 Spoiler: Case 3 |
Author: | Franzise Deauxnim [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:07 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: GK Contradictions (spoilers) |
Gyakuten$aiban wrote: I got this from a topic on GameFAQs but: Spoiler: Minor case 3 spoilers Spoiler: Response |
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