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They never say anything about fran's mom, do they? I dunno why I'm thinking that she was 18 when her first daughter was born.
I always thought of Franziska as an illegitimate child for some reason. Mainly because I don't see Manfred being the "committed relationship" type.
Really? I figured the opposite. I'd think that having a wife and kids would be his vision of a "perfect" home life.
Yes I agree with you. We know that Manfred has 2 daughters. The elder has a girl who has a dog, and then it's Franziska. In my opinion, Manfred had two wives, the first with who he had his elder daughter, and the second with who he had Franziska, but in both cases they were probably arranged weddings, and Franziska's mother must have been younger than him. She is probably dead before Franny even get to know her, because I don't see Manfred having a divorce. So yeah she's dead, and because he didn't want another child, he hasn't remarried, that's all. Manfred is too perfect to have illegitimate children.
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In my head-canon Franziska's mom died soon after Franny was born. I can imagine her being the only one who could at least somehow influence on him positively. And the reason why Manfred's older daughter have family and normal life (and I belive that she is not a prosecutor) is that she was raised mostly by her mother. But without her Manfred did everything to train his second daughter to become his successor since childhood.
I think of all the von Karma family theories, this one is my favorite. It's both credible and tragic at the same time.
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Satoshi wrote:
But without her Manfred did everything to train his second daughter to become his successor since childhood.
That's not the vibe I got. Manfred did everything to train Edgeworth to become his successor because he wanted to ruin him, but I see nothing that indicates he cared about Franziska becoming a prosecutor. Manfred trained Edgeworth and Franziska tried to outdo Edgeworth to get Manfred's attention, but it didn't really work.
Seriously, Franziska was only slightly behind Edgeworth at the age of thirteen and Manfred was pretty much "yeah, whatever." Either Manfred was so focused on taking revenge on his dead enemy that he ignored his own daughter or he was the kind of guy who silently resented his own wife for not giving him sons. Either way, he was a super-shitty dad.
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Icarus wrote:
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But without her Manfred did everything to train his second daughter to become his successor since childhood.
That's not the vibe I got. Manfred did everything to train Edgeworth to become his successor because he wanted to ruin him, but I see nothing that indicates he cared about Franziska becoming a prosecutor. Manfred trained Edgeworth and Franziska tried to outdo Edgeworth to get Manfred's attention, but it didn't really work.
Seriously, Franziska was only slightly behind Edgeworth at the age of thirteen and Manfred was pretty much "yeah, whatever." Either Manfred was so focused on taking revenge on his dead enemy that he ignored his own daughter or he was the kind of guy who silently resented his own wife for not giving him sons. Either way, he was a super-shitty dad.
This actually makes sense.
In case 4 I was expecting Franziska to be cold to her father. It's sweet how she calls him papa instead of "father"
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Still cute though. You kinda feel bad about everything that happened with Manny in relation to her.
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Auraion wrote:
So, have you noticed that she says "fool" less than the other games?
Very thankful for this, it's a positive direction for her character continuing from where they left off in GS3.
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Yeah, I noticed that. Another thing I noticed is that she addressees people by their first and last name less often.
I think that's because most of times she's more calmer then in previous games. She was usually pissed off around Phoenix and others, but Edgeworth seem to have good influence on her - she starts thinking more about how overcome him in something then whipping everybody around and call them foolish fools. xD
Again, very good, let's hope it continues.
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^ Don't quote me on this, but I believe she also refers to him as Papa in JFA as well.
She does.
I hope it's okay to post these here, but seeing as we're talking about Franziska in AAI, now seems like the perfect time for CUTE PICS!
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^ Don't quote me on this, but I believe she also refers to him as Papa in JFA as well.
She does.
I played the spanish version, maybe I didn't noticed hehe.
Also, they mentioned something about 2-4, franziska freaked out about that. She never mentioned Adrian, even though she is her only friend. Isn't she?
Oh cute pics
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THOSE PICTURES ARE ADORABLE.
She really is tiny in the last one, hee hee~
It took me so long to realize that in her case 4 outfit the yellow-striped thing is a sleeveless jacket of sorts, not just yellow stripes on her shirt. It's more obvious in the mini-sprites, I guess.
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I love the one with li'l Franzy and li'l Kay both picking on Bratworth~
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Nice pics Shadow. I'm quite fond of them.
Thanks, but I think you've got me beat.
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Icarus wrote:
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But without her Manfred did everything to train his second daughter to become his successor since childhood.
That's not the vibe I got. Manfred did everything to train Edgeworth to become his successor because he wanted to ruin him, but I see nothing that indicates he cared about Franziska becoming a prosecutor. Manfred trained Edgeworth and Franziska tried to outdo Edgeworth to get Manfred's attention, but it didn't really work.
Seriously, Franziska was only slightly behind Edgeworth at the age of thirteen and Manfred was pretty much "yeah, whatever." Either Manfred was so focused on taking revenge on his dead enemy that he ignored his own daughter or he was the kind of guy who silently resented his own wife for not giving him sons. Either way, he was a super-shitty dad.
Hmm.. I don't think that he didn't care about her at all, that's not how the Perfect father and his Perfect daughter should be. And it's impossible for her to learn all that law stuff all by herself in that age, she said it herself in JFA, she never was a genius, she is just a hard worker. I believe that Manny paid them both enough of attention, regarding to learning. He just cared about Miles more in case 4 because there should have been his first court trial. But when he allowed them to investigate the crime scene he said something that will be a good experience for them both, and later he allowed them to continue their investigation only after Franny asked him about it.
I actually don't think that Manfred was that bad with his disciples, just remember how much they respected him, and Franziska loved him a lot as father, so perhaps he had some kind of "bright side" after all.
Thanks for adorable pics, Shadow, Jacques and Aevitas. I haven't seen some of them. ^^
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I would go out and search for some pictures, but it's much easier to hang around here and leech off others.
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Franzy can make anything into a weapon! FEAR HER DEADLY SAUSAGE OF DOOM!
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Jacques Portsman wrote:
Oh hey guys are we posting pictures cause I have pictures
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Ooooh I have a couple to share as well!
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More little Franny!
Ah, the floodgates of cuteness. Like the scent of fresh lemon, you see.
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Though some of those more 'shippable' pictures up there make me cringe a little due to well....ages and stuff.
I also did wonder though why she held back on some of the obviously villainous or troublesome, like
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Pierre wrote:
Though some of those more 'shippable' pictures up there make me cringe a little due to well....ages and stuff.
Eh, I didn't find any of them to be very suggestive. They just show them being friendly and adorable family members.
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Jacques Portsman wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Though some of those more 'shippable' pictures up there make me cringe a little due to well....ages and stuff.
Eh, I didn't find any of them to be very suggestive. They just show them being friendly and adorable family members.
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I dunno....that one where she has Bratworth pinned down beneath her legs and the one where Kay is crawling shoeless up her body seem pretty suggestive to me.
And I guess I remember that thing about maybe whipping him. Still she's whipped the Judge no problem before so authority shouldn't stand in her way.
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Jacques Portsman wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Though some of those more 'shippable' pictures up there make me cringe a little due to well....ages and stuff.
Eh, I didn't find any of them to be very suggestive. They just show them being friendly and adorable family members.
This. I find most of them just adorable and that's all.
I kinda don't like obviously suggestive pictures too, though.
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I saw the sausage pic before, and I wondered whether that was the end of her riding crop or if in fact she was about to hit someone with a sausage. Strange.
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Catfight of the century~!
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Midnight Jasper wrote:
Mighty Sausage of Justice VS Snackoos
Catfight of the century~!
Catfight of the century~!
Pft, Franziska will hit 'em all outta the park. She'd play the perfect game, getting whatever the opposite of a no-hitter is.
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She does, although it didn't happen when Lang accused her.
I think she knew that it wouldn't look good for her if he tried to whip him at that point in time, and perhaps she even thought he was on to something.
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Aevitas wrote:
She does, although it didn't happen when Lang accused her.
Hence why I said an earlier point.
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I think she knew that it wouldn't look good for her if he tried to whip him at that point in time, and perhaps she even thought he was on to something.
That could be true. I know I personally caught on to what was going on pretty quick as well.
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That makes sense, those two seem to get along pretty well. I like how Lang calls her "sis". And they both liked Missile.~
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Catfight of the century~!
Catfight of the century~!
Franny have whole 13 (if I counted it correctly o.o) years to train then. xD
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Franny have whole 13 (if I counted it correctly o.o) years to train then. xD
Now you're just making me think of a young Ema relentlessly chucking Snackoos at targets, only stopping to eat and sleep, for seven years. I suppose Franzy had a live human victim on which to practice XD
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Midnight Jasper wrote:
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Franny have whole 13 (if I counted it correctly o.o) years to train then. xD
Now you're just making me think of a young Ema relentlessly chucking Snackoos at targets, only stopping to eat and sleep, for seven years. I suppose Franzy had a live human victim on which to practice XD
Yeah, the Deadly Food Battle is only what they live for. Science or perfection is only a cover. And when they will finally meet in GS5...
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Satoshi wrote:
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Franny have whole 13 (if I counted it correctly o.o) years to train then. xD
Now you're just making me think of a young Ema relentlessly chucking Snackoos at targets, only stopping to eat and sleep, for seven years. I suppose Franzy had a live human victim on which to practice XD
Yeah, the Deadly Food Battle is only what they live for. Science or perfection is only a cover. And when they will finally meet in GS5...
Ack, poor Apollo! Caught in the crossfire!
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Ickle Franny's little riding crop was so cute as was her height problem XD Such an undeserved whip of Edgeworth.
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Of course hopefully Franny's whip will prove fatal to Ema in this battle.
Ickle Franny's little riding crop was so cute as was her height problem XD Such an undeserved whip of Edgeworth.
Ickle Franny's little riding crop was so cute as was her height problem XD Such an undeserved whip of Edgeworth.
Ema will have to use an infinite ammo code to win this one.
Li'l Franzy's tiny riding crop was adorable, especially when she had that animation where she just basically bent it. And especially, especially her finger point where she has to use the riding crop to take up the same amount of space on screen as Edgeworth does. D'aww.
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Midnight Jasper wrote:
Ack, poor Apollo! Caught in the crossfire!
Ouch, looks like we need a new main character. x'DD
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Of course hopefully Franny's whip will prove fatal to Ema in this battle.
We can't be sure, because we still don't know what actually Ema has for snakoos. oO
Maybe we should ran a totalizator? x)
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Li'l Franzy's tiny riding crop was adorable, especially when she had that animation where she just basically bent it. And especially, especially her finger point where she has to use the riding crop to take up the same amount of space on screen as Edgeworth does. D'aww.
Haha, I didn't notice it, she tries to overtake him even in that. x'DD
And yes that riding crop gives her +500 more adorableness.~
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I always thought that Franny had a pretty rough childhood where she always wanted to impress/ get attention on her father. Since Miles always got Manfreds attention.I think that Manfred was teaching Franny and Miles at the same time. But Miles got all help and attention and that motivated Franziska to study harder to one day be able to beat Miles and get her fathers attention.
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Since you're all talking about franziskas childhood and all that I felt that I would want to share my 2 cents.
I always thought that Franny had a pretty rough childhood where she always wanted to impress/ get attention on her father. Since Miles always got Manfreds attention.I think that Manfred was teaching Franny and Miles at the same time. But Miles got all help and attention and that motivated Franziska to study harder to one day be able to beat Miles and get her fathers attention.
I always thought that Franny had a pretty rough childhood where she always wanted to impress/ get attention on her father. Since Miles always got Manfreds attention.I think that Manfred was teaching Franny and Miles at the same time. But Miles got all help and attention and that motivated Franziska to study harder to one day be able to beat Miles and get her fathers attention.
Seconded, every word. And she must have felt so confused when Edgeworth met Phoenix again and started splitting away from von Karma's methods, and especially in 1-4. What a mindscrew that must've been for her. The father that she respected so much to be revealed as a psycho murderer who killed her adopted brother's FATHER... and then Edgeworth fakes suicide and leaves her alone in Germany to go search for the truth.
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Maybe we should ran a totalizator? x)
If she switches to Golden Snackoos I think we have a bit of an incident on our hands...
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