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Shiva wrote:
And personally, I hope there's NOTHING from GS4 in the game.


I certainly don't. The GS4 characters had much more potential for development that the characters from the original Trilogy. (Though I wouldn't mind any of them returning as well. Yeah, not even Oldbag or Lotta! :D)

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I really don't want it to be him. :sadshoe:


I'm obviously the opposite. :D

The Gavin brothers have shown so much potential for growth. And remember those

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black psyche-locks and the scar on Kristoph's hand? I'd like to know how he got those too.
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i hope to god that it's kristoph, for if not, may god help me for i will not play this game - -
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more I look at it the more I realize his mouth is completely different. not him.... ah well. I still think there's lots of backstory that needs filling in.
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more I look at it the more I realize his mouth is completely different. not him.... ah well. I still think there's lots of backstory that needs filling in.

I don't see why they'd fill it in a spin-off game. They can do that in GS5. Especially since a lot of people don't like GS4 and would rather play an Edgeworth game with no mentions of it at all.

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I certainly don't. The GS4 characters had much more potential for development that the characters from the original Trilogy.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree.
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I don't know if anyone's said this yet, but maybe the guy is just the victim or the defendant.
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Edgeworth would probably know the name of the victim or defendant given that he's the prosecutor. I know that Hammond's name wasn't known in 1-4 until Grossberg identified him, but his profile didn't appear in the Court Record until then. While the person here is ??????, so he might be similiar to Viola in that he just appears in passing in one scene and Edgeworth takes note of him.

(That said, I'm not all that sure whether Viola appeared in the CR after you meet her, so correct me if I'm wrong.)
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If you follow that logic then you can delete the defendant and victim theory, but he could be a witness that Gumshoe forgot the name of when telling Edgeworth about him. That would be a perfect time for a pay reduction
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Sounds like a very Gumshoe thing to do, so why not?
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Or it could be just... that the game isn't done yet. :P
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Regardless of whether the game's not done yet, THAT bit is. Meaning any information included in that bit is complete.
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Regardless of whether the game's not done yet, THAT bit is. Meaning any information included in that bit is complete.

How does anyone know that?
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It's not a matter of anyone knowing it, it's common sense.
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yeah, they are not going to show you images of an incomplete part of the game
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Better quality screenshot.

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While the similarites are undeniable, the facial structure and skin tone are totally different. Kristoph is more tanned than that, and his face is longer and thinner.
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Darzie P wrote:
While the similarites are undeniable, the facial structure and skin tone are totally different. Kristoph is more tanned than that, and his face is longer and thinner.


Seriously. If not for Ema's ridiculous differences (and that was the same artist, even!), I'd never dream that this character ever really had anything to do with Krissy. :yogi:
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Why would any character in GS4/Apollo Justice appear in a game that takes place before that era? Doesn't seem to make sense to me. That does not even look like Kristoph. But whatever.....
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It doesn't look like exactly Kristoph because it IS set in the past. 7 years before. And he does look like a younger version of Kristoph: smaller face, shorter hair, lighter skin (people get tans just from living and being in the sun, you know). In other words, all the easy ways to make a character appear younger...

From the light blond hair to the glasses to the sharply-defined chin, he has an uncanny resemblance to Krissi. It's either Kristoph or someone whom Capcom wants us to believe is Kristoph.

Honestly, it makes sense. The past is the only time they could give Kristoph more character development (and he could use it) and in a game where you play as a prosecutor, we need a crafty, professional defense attorney to square off against...it's a role custom-made for Kristoph, IMO.
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Writer Awakened wrote:
It's either Kristoph or someone whom Capcom wants us to believe is Kristoph.

Or, you know, just some random character that's not even supposed to look like Kristoph, but looks like him to some people cause they have too much imagination.
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Why would any character in GS4/Apollo Justice appear in a game that takes place before that era?


Of course they can. What, you mean to say Guy Eldoon and the Kitakis just materialized out of nowhere one day before Apollo meets them? Really now.

Plus, it seems that most of them have been hanging around places near Phoenix's home base for the longest time, just that we've never met them.

Besides, just because Phoenix hasn't met them doesn't mean Edgeworth or Gumshoe hasn't met them.

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Or, you know, just some random character that's not even supposed to look like Kristoph, but looks like him to some people cause they have too much imagination.


It was nothing to do with imagination. I just looked at the screenshot and the first thing that popped into my mind was "Kristoph?". Then I wondered, "Why would I think of Kristoph when I see this person?", and proceeded to get the similarities that I posted on the previous page.
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Well, to each their own. When I saw the screenshot, the profile didn't remind me of Kristoph even relatively, that is until I saw all the comments mention the similarities. Right now, I sort of still find it hard to believe. I guess it's because I assumed Kristoph and his brother's skin color was genetic. Haha, my fault if not then xD;
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It can't be Kristoph since the story happened around T&T, he already had long hair at the moment.
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Well, those "flashback pictures" aren't always entirely accurate. Besides, they couldn't show the back of Krissy's head without the unicorn, cause nobody would recognize him. XD
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Well, those "flashback pictures" aren't always entirely accurate. Besides, they couldn't show the back of Krissy's head without the unicorn, cause nobody would recognize him. XD

Well, then, they would have made it so we see part of his face. *shrugs*

If he has long hair on there, it's cause they decided he had long hair back then. Trust me, if they thought about Klavier's hair, they thought about Kristoph's hair as well.
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Shiva wrote:
Writer Awakened wrote:
It's either Kristoph or someone whom Capcom wants us to believe is Kristoph.

Or, you know, just some random character that's not even supposed to look like Kristoph, but looks like him to some people cause they have too much imagination.


Because a light-blond haired guy with glasses and an icy stare looks nothing like any GS4 character we know, right? :gymshoe:
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Because a light-blond haired guy with glasses and an icy stare looks nothing like any GS4 character we know, right? :gymshoe:

An icy stare? You can barely see the guy's face on the screenshot. Not to mention pretty much everyone has the same expression on profile pics. And I really don't understand the logic behind "blonde hair + glasses = Kristoph".
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Shiva wrote:
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Because a light-blond haired guy with glasses and an icy stare looks nothing like any GS4 character we know, right? :gymshoe:

An icy stare? You can barely see the guy's face on the screenshot. Not to mention pretty much everyone has the same expression on profile pics. And I really don't understand the logic behind "blonde hair + glasses = Kristoph".


Oh, no, no. I'm taking issue with the fact that you seem to think that any similarities between this person and Kristoph are merely products of an overactive imagination...which it isn't. Whether it's Kristoph or not, the fact that they both have the same tone of the same color hair AND glasses AND that this person looks like what a younger Kristoph might look like, can't be denied. Can you honestly not see the resemblance? There are similarities.
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Oh, no, no. I'm taking issue with the fact that you seem to think that any similarities between this person and Kristoph are merely products of an overactive imagination...which it isn't. Whether it's Kristoph or not, the fact that they both have the same tone of the same color hair AND glasses AND that this person looks like what a younger Kristoph might look like, can't be denied. Can you honestly not see the resemblance?

Well, that's fine. What I'm saying is that when I saw the picture, the idea that the guy looked like Kristoph didn't even cross my mind. I'm not denying that there's similarities, but I still don't think he looks like Kristoph. What I meant by "imagination" is that some people seem so convinced that it's Kristoph that I have to wonder if it's not just the fact that they want it to be him. I'm pretty sure that a lot of people saying it's Kristoph wouldn't even have thought about it if no one had pointed it out.
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If it is Kris, it would mean Capcom has learned a bit of subtlety in their hype techniques... which is another thing I find hard to buy XD;;;

When Famitsu ran the first shots of Hobohodo (before stating outright that it was him) there were hints all over of "DOESN'T HE LOOK FAMILIAR!?" etc in the article. There's no mention of that in this case.

I love the idea of Kristoph getting more development/backstory but I don't like the idea of Apollo not being there for it. Kristoph is a lot more important to Phoenix and Apollo than he is to Edgeworth, and as much as I like the idea of them interacting it will make even less sense knowing that Edgeworth doesn't show up in AJ.
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Hm, now that you mention it...

I wonder if Apollo's in this game to-*shot*

Just kidding. ^^;


Well, I really hope that that guy's Kristoph...

Come on, 20th of April, arrive faster already! D:
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I personally don't care who it could be. But it's obviously a mysterious character, judging by the ????? they used for his name. >_> Capcom is planning something and I can tell.

Has evetyone forgotten about :adrian:? Maybe it's her brother. >_> Bah.

Obviously it's Adrian after the sex chan- :spload:
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Indeed xDD


April 20th is Sunday o.o Will it really come out on a sunday? or will it be monday when one can actually purchase it?

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Now, my next point is.

Remember the screenshot of that kingly-looking person on the scan?

This one:

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Now, I'm not sure about you, but IMO I think Capcom enjoys reusing and developing old character designs... (Look at Apollo, Trucy, and Ema. And look at the earliest designs of Lawyer, partner, and detective. They look pretty similar to me. Also, Prosecutor's first old-guy character was instead developed further into Manfred von Karma when it wasn't used for Edgeworth.)

And if you look at Kristoph's earlier designs...

In particular, this one: http://www.court-records.net/arts/gs4gu ... hito06.jpg

You'll see that the design of both old Kristoph(s) and the new purple person have a little bit of similarity. Could it be that they used his old unused designs to develop into a relative of the Gavin brothers?

I say that it's totally possible. (Plus, the both of them have that bit of elegant European-ish air, don't they?)


If that were true... it would totally tie into my theory.... and I could never look at GS the same way again X________X



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It can't be Kristoph since the story happened around T&T, he already had long hair at the moment.
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T&T takes place 2 years after the original AJ. GK is going to take place between 1-1 and 1-3, or right before. Krissi COULD'VE had his hair short, and then let it grow out. It CAN grown out pretty fast in just 2 years. Also from the cap, theres no way to tell how long his unicorn hair had grown too, if you're looking for evidence to support this mystery guy is Krissi.


And think of this, this mystery guy may not even be a character you've met in person at the time you learn about him. It's possible that Edgey comes across a photo at the scene, or this mystery blond guy hands Edgey this photograph of a mysterious ????? person.
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T&T takes place 2 years after the original AJ. GK is going to take place between 1-1 and 1-3, or right before. Krissi COULD'VE had his hair short, and then let it grow out. It CAN grown out pretty fast in just 2 years. Also from the cap, theres no way to tell how long his unicorn hair had grown too, if you're looking for evidence to support this mystery guy is Krissi.


And think of this, this mystery guy may not even be a character you've met in person at the time you learn about him. It's possible that Edgey comes across a photo at the scene, or this mystery blond guy hands Edgey this photograph of a mysterious ????? person.

..Well, first I don't understand what do you mean by "T&T takes place 2 years after the original AJ", I guess what you wanted to say was "T&T takes place 2 years after the original PW:AA", correct me if I was wrong...but I can tell you it has been officially announced that GK is gonna take place around T&T instead of 1-3. You can take a look at my translation thread in this section or the original magazine page if you don't trust my English level. Anyway, Kristoph couldn't grow his hair long enough in two months, so either the guy is not him, or we are going to update our contradiction page.=P

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.I love the idea of Kristoph getting more development/backstory but I don't like the idea of Apollo not being there for it. Kristoph is a lot more important to Phoenix and Apollo than he is to Edgeworth, and as much as I like the idea of them interacting it will make even less sense knowing that Edgeworth doesn't show up in AJ.

They can kill Edgey at the end of the game....T-T
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I would much rather it not be kristoph. Like someone said, Edgeworth doesn't even know him, so it wouldn't make sense unless Edgeworth were just to say some lolrandom thing like "UH OH!, THAT GUY SURE LOOKS LIKE HE MIGHT BE TROUBLE DOWN THE LINE LOLOLWINK WINK WINK!!!!!"

I am not even sure if I like the whole spin-off thing. I mean, what will it show? Some not-mentioned case that turns Edgeworth into emo not-jerk? I'd rather them spent there enrgy and character designs on Apollo Justice 2, if you ask me. But I can't change anything, and because i am a sheep, I will still end up buying it.


As for the topic, I don't think it is :garyuu: , but my fanboisim would love to face off against him in court...
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Krissi seems so famous that it seems unlikely that Edgey WOULDN'T know of him o.o

Every event in the AA series has effect the entire timeline of BOTH arcs in some form or fashion, altered some person or event or whatever. It wouldn't be THAT surprising, or that unlikely for their to be something in GK that connects it with both the Phoenix arc AND the Apollo arc
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Well, as to why his profile appears there and with question marks, I could see it possibly happening this way:

:eh?:: Oh, by the way, Mr. Edgeworth. I heard about this new defense attorney that's been making the rounds recently. People are saying he's a prodigy.

:edgeworth:: Oh, really?

:eh?:: Yeah. They say he's really good, and he's a member of the bar's law board.

:edgeworth:: What's his name?

:sadshoe:: Uh, it's...actually, I don't remember, sir. I did get a picture of him, though! You'll probably be facing off against him in court soon enough anyway.

:edgeworth:: (Sigh. After the next round of pay cuts, he's going to be paying ME money...)

Regardless, if it is Kristoph, at some point we're probably going to see a sprite or promo art at some point further on in development (according to the Famitsu article, it's only about 40% complete). So the only way we're going to find out for sure is to just wait and see. All our questions will be answered in time. :edgy:
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And annihilate half the fanbase?


If Edgey and Maya don't show up in the AJ2, it's equal to killing them.They've already made Nick become a hobo, and it's worse than killing him.

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I am not even sure if I like the whole spin-off thing. I mean, what will it show? Some not-mentioned case that turns Edgeworth into emo not-jerk? I'd rather them spent there enrgy and character designs on Apollo Justice 2, if you ask me. But I can't change anything, and because i am a sheep, I will still end up buying it.


There is no need to worry about AJ2...the producers of GK and AJ are two different groups, so it doesn't matter. :edgy:
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What they really ought to do is just use this game as a test, and if it does well, have the sequel star Klavier. Then there would be plenty of time and reason to further develop the Gavins' backstories.

Plus Ema snackoo'ing the daylights out of her prosecutor :D
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What they really ought to do is just use this game as a test, and if it does well, have the sequel star Klavier. Then there would be plenty of time and reason to further develop the Gavins' backstories.

Plus Ema snackoo'ing the daylights out of her prosecutor :D


Could be a good mini game, How many snackoo's can you throw at Klavier lol.
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