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WhiteElephant wrote:
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ORLY?!?!?! SHARE THE EPIC WITH ME PLZ 8D


Spoiler: CHEATING
The votes have been rigged. By the end of day 3, we should know who Phoenix Wright is.

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OHSNAP.

Von Karma will be dead but Townies are STILL SCREWED :D EPIC VON KARMA :karma:

...well since Phoenix is going to be lynched do you mind telling me who he is now ;D~

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WhiteElephant wrote:
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OHSNAP.

Von Karma will be dead but Townies are STILL SCREWED :D EPIC VON KARMA :karma:

...well since Phoenix is going to be lynched do you mind telling me who he is now ;D~


Yes, I do mind. ;D
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Spoiler: YOUR A FUCKING CHEATER IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MESSAGE
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Edited Out on Velo's request :3
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... Uncool and unnecessary! D:

Edit out please. :(

EDIT: Thankee kindly. ^_^
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Spoiler: The knowledge needed to win the game
Removed snappy reply to WE's post. You mean the innuendo, right?

On a side note, here's some more popcorn, Velo. *throws bag*
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Popcorn - the ultimate theatre snack treat! :D
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Boss Velotix wrote:
Popcorn - the ultimate theatre snack treat! :D

Yeah =D

... *goes off to go from Radiant Dawn's 4-4 to Endgame-5 (or whatever it's called)... with a bag of popcorn ;)*
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*still stuck on 3-7(?) because I can't be arsed to play it*

Way too hard to train first tier characters. :((

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*still stuck on 3-7(?) because I can't be arsed to play it*

Way too hard to train first tier characters. :((

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Take four moderately strong units in, and make them stand in a diagonal line in the south-western corner. Make sure the top two are your strongest, with the other two being moderatly powerful. Let the Partnet units suicide themselves, and survive. If your REALLY weak, use the Burger King (when he comes) to demolish everything. Anyway, from the defensive line, use Micaiah to hit the enemy indriectly (staying behind the line), possibly Jill to hit and run (she can do this when she's in line as well), and make Laura heal her (or Micaiah.) Give the Beastfoe scroll (if you have it) to the northern most character. All in all, it should look a bit like this... Before the Burger King comes.

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M D
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L L  D


D = Defensive/Wall unit (From North to South, I used Edwarn, Nolan, Sothe (with a Beast Killer >=D) and Jill.
M = Micaiah
L = Laura/Leonardo

Of course, I haven't done Normal... so I can't speak for that mode.

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(WhiteElephant still hasn't editted her last post to remove the nasties like I asked... D: )
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Where's Volke? Asking for the fireman at the bar only gets me strange white men in coats D=

...I NEED TO LAY OFF FIRE EMBLEM LIKE NAO.
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On another topic - you think Nouveau's going to go anywhere? :/
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Boss Velotix wrote:
On another topic - you think Nouveau's going to go anywhere? :/

Nope.
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XDDD

Shame - from the reactions of some of the players in this and previous rounds, we could do with an easy-Mode Mafia around here. :PP

*SHOT*
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Boss Velotix wrote:
XDDD

Shame - from the reactions of some of the players in this and previous rounds, we could do with an easy-Mode Mafia around here. :PP

*SHOT*

In other news, I have a topic using the style on the forum I mentioned - and it's even Phoenix Wright style.

I know nobody wants a link. SO HEY HEY

I didn't participate. I am playing their Fire Emblem 7 mafia though.
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(I assume you go by the name "Aether Summoner" (w/ unicode characters) there?

Their version of the Mafia game has that annoying DON'T REVEAL YOUR ROLE DON'T REVEAL IT crap, automatically making CR Mafia better than it...

...

Well, I think so anyway. The affiliation mechanic wouldn't work if you couldn't reveal your role. :P

Also: ONM = epic win, but the forum seems to have a n00b infestation. :/
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Boss Velotix wrote:
(WhiteElephant still hasn't editted her last post to remove the nasties like I asked... D: )

Sorry xO I was out getting groceries -will edit it out-
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Boss Velotix wrote:
(I assume you go by the name "Aether Summoner" (w/ unicode characters) there?

Their version of the Mafia game has that annoying DON'T REVEAL YOUR ROLE DON'T REVEAL IT crap, automatically making CR Mafia better than it...

...

Well, I think so anyway. The affiliation mechanic wouldn't work if you couldn't reveal your role. :P

I do indeed. How did you figure that out?

Yeah. Which means CR Mafia > Noveau > That one.
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You responded to someone talking about an "Allan109". :P
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Mkay edited out the joke xD; -goes to eat her breakfast now-
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Boss Velotix wrote:
You responded to someone talking about an "Allan109". :P

...Who is also me. And another of my ten-ish used usernames XD
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I think I did a good job on the rules, even if they are a bit heady. What do you think?

Comments on the proposed changes for Round V would probably be helpful too considering you have extensive Mafia experience. :)
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Boss Velotix wrote:
I think I did a good job on the rules, even if they are a bit heady. What do you think?

Comments on the proposed changes for Round V would probably be helpful too considering you have extensive Mafia experience. :)

Proposed changes?

They're good ^_^ (Round IV's rules)
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Re-read the earlier pages - they're loaded with proposed changes for Round V. We're all throwing ideas around. The general consensus is that regular Townies don't want to bother playing or help their team because they have no special abilities. I also received similar complaints from a Mafioso at the beginning of this round.

The issue is implementing this without breaking the game. The other issue is the suggested overhauling of the lynch system - it's a little flat at the moment.

It also looks like Round V will be another triple-faction game. :D

(On that note: why did you side with Karma anyway? XD)
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Thinking back to the evidence system (sans trial system), I was thinking that evidence could work very much like items in Mario Kart: keeping them instead of giving them to Phoenix will provide some sort of effect or power. On the other hand, submitting it to Phoenix has much greater potential.

Example: Townie receives the Screwdriver. Keeping the Screwdriver for the day/night session allows Townie to block or hinder a nightly action, but if it's given to Phoenix, he can use it to wiretap a player's phone in order to learn about all their actions that night. Note that in both options, the evidence will expire by the next day.

It's possible that Phoenix could have some option to save one or two pieces of evidence to his Court Record, but he can only use one per day/night (possibly use one during the day and one during night). Townies can only hold on to one piece of evidence at a time, which disappears every sunrise when they receive a new piece of potentially decisive evidence.

If we allow Mafia normies access to evidence as well, then there could be a lot of hectic stuff going on with normal Townies and Mafia sabotaging each other with their "Mario Kart" items.

Example: Mafioso receives Missile. Mafioso can then use Missile to destroy a piece of evidence held by another player.

I'm unsure if the Mafia will have access to a "roulette upgrade" method like Phoenix, but probably not.
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That sounds about right considering the last thing Mafia is meant to be about is character customisation.

The issue is deciding how the evidence itself works - it's very vague at the moment. From the sounds of it, both versions of the system require that the evidence has at least three effects:

1) A Townie effect
2) A Mafia effect
3) A Phoenix Wright effect

If we introduce the court system as well, then you need to add another two:

4) Acquit XXX effect
5) Convict XXX effect

The saying: "one man's trash is another man's treasure" springs to mind. :)
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Addict + MSN = Nag machine.

If the townies don't like it, up theirs. Same goes for the mafians =/ The lynch system is tried and tested - you know the 'Nouveau' style? It makes the townies a little more intrested, I suppose... In short, screw them =/

@'Evidence System': So we have a way to make Phoenix a god-like character? 8D
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I can't really accept dismissing the Townies, Mr. Aokage, because if we do that's over 50% of the player base not playing properly each round, which is epic failure. It's also been brought up that players keep relying on the smartasses to win the game for them.

This is made of fail, and we need something to level the playing field.
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Having a seperate Mafia effect will probably be necessary unless we feel OK with letting Mafia have access to the same Townie powers (in which case it'd be just fine to let both sides have evidence-manipulating powers to sabotage each other).

Adding the court system to it, what you seem to be saying is that Phoenix would now have two options for his gathered evidence: consuming a piece of evidence for a crucial ability, or using it in court to defend a client. As I said before, this is probably just too complicated for its own good, since now we have to decide how evidence interacts with each other for trial purposes, in a way that makes sense...

But the bigger problem is that Phoenix is supposed to be a player role, that is, biased. Do we want to allow him the power to willingly lose a trial? This makes Phoenix into a God-like Town Vigilante, in a way, because once the defendants are selected by vote, it completely relies on Phoenix's arbitration to find each defendant Guilty/Not Guilty. Everyone's lives are in his hands! Discovering his identity so as to influence his decisions is key to keeping one's faction out of hot water... that or eliminating him outright.

Hmmm.
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Ban the smartasses.

Seriously, the court system is like an entirely different game =/ You can't change this game really.
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Or you could just make Phoenix a Game Master role and discuss in the Dead Thread at length with Miles and him who you want to go through and who you want to die.

It's all about what makes the most interesting game over the most fair. Mafia by nature is a bitch to play - if you're a nice, honest person, you'll get your ass kicked. :P
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Seriously, you don't want overpowered roles. If they do, they get a drawback, like Elise's no-voting. Maybe ban Phoenix from posting? In the game? Or reading his role PM? OR ACTUALLY PLAYING THE GAME?
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Allan's Aokage wrote:
Seriously, the court system is like an entirely different game =/ You can't change this game really.

OF COURSE WE CAN CHANGE THE GAME.
MASON SYSTEM GO

ZA WARUDO

Wait a second, having an NPC Phoenix/Miles/GM triumvirate is stepping into the Evil Narrator territory...
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That was my initial suggestion - make Phoenix and Miles dead from the start of the game, but also honorary Game Masters. :)

EDIT: ...So it is. Now we totally have to do it! XD
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Would these unlucky individuals be third parties, or be selected from the pool of registered players?

"Sorry, you don't get to play the game, but in exchange you get to have PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWER Itty bitty living space. "
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Yes, hand out totally random people GAME MASTER positions. Seriously, man. If you made me a Game Master, the game would be three posts long.

Post 1: GM
Post 2: Me *BZZK ALL PLAYERS DIE EXCEPT ADDICT*
Post 3: Addict *W00T*
*lockage*
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Well Addict is dead anyway XO~ Franny put a hit on him so give it a few more hours and he'll be gone~

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Eh, I kind of liked having an imba Phoenix. Guy needs some love :|

Question: Has EricaP participated at all? She's active outside Mafia...

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