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Author: | Lusankya [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:39 am ] |
Post subject: | I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
You all know the "I just want to know one thing" thread for AAI and I think we should have one for AAI2 as well. Actually I thought we already had one, but I can't find it. I think you should't put all questions under a spoiler tag, because otherwise no one knows if they can read the question or not and might miss some valuable informations. Of course questions like "Why did person x murder victim y?" or "How long is character Z's cameo?" must be put under spoiler tags! My first question and there is no spoiler: How many different rebuttals (cross examinations) are in the game? I would like the answer for each case if possible. E.g. Case 1 - 7 rebuttals |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Case 2: 13 Case 3: 10 Case 4: 10 Case 5: 12 Note that I used the walkthrough for this so I might be wrong. |
Author: | Lusankya [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Thanks. So 52 rebuttals overall, a good number. It's only strange that the last case has so few rebuttals. In comparison: GS1: 3+9+12+10+19 = 34 +19 = 53 GS2: 5+10+12+18 = 45 GS3: 7+10+14+7+17 = 55 GS4: 7+10+12+9 = 38 GK1: 6+9+12+11+16 = 54 |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Note that there are two Logic Chess battles in each case in GK2. I presume it is to make up for the lesser number of testimonies and rebuttals. Of course, it depends on how long it is. And I have one question. Spoiler: Final boss spoilers. Beware! |
Author: | Lusankya [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
AnsweringNOW wrote: Note that there are two Logic Chess battles in each case in GK2. I presume it is to make up for the lesser number of testimonies and rebuttals. Of course, it depends on how long it is. I thought Logic Chess is kind of an equivalent to the Psyche-Locks. Btw. how fun is Logic Chess? |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Prepare for a ramble since I'm telling you the details, just in case you don't know what Logic Chess is. But of course if you did know, you should have an opinion on it. In Logic Chess, you need to ask a bunch of questions or statements (but let's go with question for now) in order for the witness to talk. You need to determine when you should ask a certain question. The question could either be reasonable or stupid to ask, depending on the situation or the person you're going up against. And there is a time limit so you have to choose a question quickly. And when you have an opportunity to strike, you may succeed. If you don't, it decreases part of your time limit. When you run out of time, you get a 5% penalty. The goal here is to destroy each one of your opponent's chess pieces using this method. Once you've done that, it's checkmate. The difference between Logic Chess and Psyche-Locks is that you don't present evidence and that it's forced. And by "forced", I mean that you have to do Logic Chess. You can't exit and it is part of the storyline (obviously) while for Psyche-locks, you have a choice to exit and do them in any order. Personally, I prefer Logic Chess. Simply because it looks interesting and I haven't played GK2 yet. And Logic Chess may involve a bit of knowledge of the character you're going up against and a bit of psychology. Hopefully GK2 will be localized so I can see if it will be fun. Of course, that depends on your definition of "fun". |
Author: | AAS4Life [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Here's mine... Why are Capcom being foolish fools and not localizing this? This is just IMO, but... That's just BS and they are now on the ROAD TO FAILURE. |
Author: | Professor Yoshi [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
AAS4Life wrote: Here's mine... Why are Capcom being foolish fools and not localizing this? This is just IMO, but... That's just BS and they are now on the ROAD TO FAILURE. Now you see this is what I was talking about. All this "Road to failure" talk is getting very, very annoying, man. You can voice your opinion 'till the cows come home, and I'll never get mad at you for doing so, but the way you do it is so goddamn annoying. You do nothing but badmouth Capcom (even though they deserve it, but you did it before the whole MML3 fiasco), you feel the need to put "Road to failure" in big bold letters, in a attempt to get people to notice it more, and you've spent the entire time just making yourself look like an asshole instead of joining in with the group discussions. For example, on the Capcom-Unity topic, all you do is troll Sven/the rest of the posters and ignore everyone's pleas for you to see sense and stop. Even mine. The person who gave you the link to said topic. I willingly gave the link to you so you could voice your opinion and have nice, rational talks with the rest of the fans, not post nonsense like this all the time. Wise up, and get a fucking clue. Nobody will listen to you if you don't act like an adult. Spend your time here well. Don't just troll the users here and repeat the same damn thing over and over again - "Why are Capcom being foolish fools and not localizing this? This is just IMO, but... That's just BS and they are now on the ROAD TO FAILURE." I swear to God, I've lost count how many times you've said that. *Sigh* .....*Ends rant* |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
I have questions... What is Delish Scone's personality like? Is she one of those old ladies who aren't nice (e.g. Oldbag)? And how exactly did Spoiler: Case 2 spoilers And I think everybody will appreciate it if only questions that are related to AAI2 in-game are asked here. |
Author: | Lusankya [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
AnsweringNOW wrote: Prepare for a ramble since I'm telling you the details, just in case you don't know what Logic Chess is. But of course if you did know, you should have an opinion on it. In Logic Chess [...] Thanks for the explanation, it sounds quite interesting. While some prick on youtube spoiled me the "final boss", I actually don't know much about the game. I know the pictures of all the characters, but I couldn't even say if Delish Scone is a boy or a girl. |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
I know what you mean by "final boss". It was disappointing that I spoiled myself but temptation is my one of my weak points so I was bound to know sooner of later. Delish Scone is obviously a girl. In fact, she's an old lady. It's amazing how plastic surgery can do. Unless that's not surgery... And it kind of creeps me out that her eyes are drawing in a different way. But in the AA world, they don't bother to comment on that. |
Author: | mai [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
AnsweringNOW wrote: Note that there are two Logic Chess battles in each case in GK2. I presume it is to make up for the lesser number of testimonies and rebuttals. Of course, it depends on how long it is. And I have one question. Spoiler: Final boss spoilers. Beware! I think you can chalk that up to gameplay and story segregation. It seems that in AAI/AAI2, the penalty system is just a gameplay mechanic and doesn't really have any meaning outside of that. |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Why exactly did Edgeworth initiate Logic Chess with Frank Sahwit? After all, there has to be a reason why Edgeworth was forced to play Logic Chess with him. |
Author: | Croik [ Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:46 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
AnsweringNOW wrote: I have questions... What is Delish Scone's personality like? Is she one of those old ladies who aren't nice (e.g. Oldbag)? And how exactly did Spoiler: Case 2 spoilers And I think everybody will appreciate it if only questions that are related to AAI2 in-game are asked here. Scone is more like Bikini. She's very sweet and bubbly but can get huffy. Her age (or rather, lack of aging) is a running joke in the case. Spoiler: Case 2 killer spoilers Quote: Why exactly did Edgeworth initiate Logic Chess with Frank Sahwit? Spoiler: Case 1 Ugh it's so dumb, I hate Logic Chess. It's timed, which I hate, and the first several times you do it the results are incredibly trivial, and whenever you screw up you have to redo entire portions of the conversation (while timed). It's not that difficult, it's just so damn tedious, and half the time you go straight into a rebuttal immediately afterwards anyway. What's the point!? Stupid game padding. |
Author: | Bolt Storm [ Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:51 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
So this isn't directly about AAI2, but I was wondering Croik, what did you think of the game once you finished it? I remember enjoying a quick review of AAI1 you did. (Edited to remove grammar derp.) |
Author: | Croik [ Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:35 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Bolt Storm wrote: So this isn't directly about AAI2, but I was wondering Croik, what did you think of the game once you finished it? I remember enjoying a quick review of AAI1 you did. (Edited to remove grammar derp.) I will, um, tell you when I finish it. THAT'S RIGHT I HAVEN'T FINISHED IT YET. Though to sort of explain and answer you partially in one, part of the reason I haven't finished is because after playing case 2 I was filled with frustration and rage, and I had to stop or else I was sure I'd hate Edgeworth forever. Then after a while I replayed it and I got over it. Then I played case 3, enjoyed it right up until the end, and was then filled with rage again. Now I'm in the middle of case 4. Just getting through the game has been something of a battle but I've sworn myself to no more ragequits. It's not that the game is bad or anything...there are just some things about it that keep punching me in the face. But I'm sure once I've played through it all again I'll be over that, too. |
Author: | Bolt Storm [ Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:29 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Uh, in that case, don't open the .rar with the voice clips I sent you. Spoilery and all that. May I ask what caused you to ragequit? Was it just the fact that the game's kind of retreading the Edgeworth conflict we already resolved back in the original trilogy? (Disclaimer: my Japanese is quite limited, so my runthrough of the game resulted in my missing out on a few things (such as 75% of the plot), so perhaps I have the wrong impression.) |
Author: | jonathanrp [ Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:36 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Professor Yoshi wrote: AAS4Life wrote: Here's mine... Why are Capcom being foolish fools and not localizing this? This is just IMO, but... That's just BS and they are now on the ROAD TO FAILURE. Now you see this is what I was talking about. All this "Road to failure" talk is getting very, very annoying, man. You can voice your opinion 'till the cows come home, and I'll never get mad at you for doing so, but the way you do it is so goddamn annoying. You do nothing but badmouth Capcom (even though they deserve it, but you did it before the whole MML3 fiasco), you feel the need to put "Road to failure" in big bold letters, in a attempt to get people to notice it more, and you've spent the entire time just making yourself look like an asshole instead of joining in with the group discussions. For example, on the Capcom-Unity topic, all you do is troll Sven/the rest of the posters and ignore everyone's pleas for you to see sense and stop. Even mine. The person who gave you the link to said topic. I willingly gave the link to you so you could voice your opinion and have nice, rational talks with the rest of the fans, not post nonsense like this all the time. Wise up, and get a fucking clue. Nobody will listen to you if you don't act like an adult. Spend your time here well. Don't just troll the users here and repeat the same damn thing over and over again - "Why are Capcom being foolish fools and not localizing this? This is just IMO, but... That's just BS and they are now on the ROAD TO FAILURE." I swear to God, I've lost count how many times you've said that. *Sigh* .....*Ends rant* Don't even correct him, he keeps spamming that in the Capcom Unity thread. I guess little kids can't control their emotions, right? |
Author: | Wooster [ Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Next person who posts off topic gets a short suspension. There. That said- Are there any GS4 references in AAI2? |
Author: | Dani [ Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
How big of a spoiler is the identity of the killer of the final case? Because I watched the ending to GHOST TRICK and a related video was "final boss of gk2 zomg" and the thumbnail SHOWED him/her. Even though I quickly looked away, I saw a picture of him/her on the forum recently and I instantly recognized him/her. Is the identity of the killer the biggest twist or are there many bigger ones? Answer as spoiler-free as possible! ;) |
Author: | Bolt Storm [ Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Wooster wrote: Next person who posts off topic gets a short suspension. There. That said- Are there any GS4 references in AAI2? The big one that comes to mind is that Sunshine Coliseum is in case 5, though Edgeworth himself never actually goes there. There's probably one or two others that have slipped my mind or that I just plain missed. |
Author: | Croik [ Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Bolt Storm wrote: Uh, in that case, don't open the .rar with the voice clips I sent you. Spoilery and all that. May I ask what caused you to ragequit? Was it just the fact that the game's kind of retreading the Edgeworth conflict we already resolved back in the original trilogy? (Disclaimer: my Japanese is quite limited, so my runthrough of the game resulted in my missing out on a few things (such as 75% of the plot), so perhaps I have the wrong impression.) It's okay, I'm already spoiled on all the killers. I dunno how much of a spoiler the final boss identity is since I'm not there yet, but I'll be able to let everyone know pretty soon XD; Case 2 pissed me off for a variety of reasons. Partially because your rivals are just so dumb. I know dumb rivals is par for the course but Yumihiko is a total moron and everyone treats him that way. The game doesn't even try to present him as a threat. Hakari isn't as bad but she spends most of case 2 supporting Yumihiko's dumb as dirt conjectures, which makes her look just as stupid. I can't stand either of them but it looks like case 4 might help explain some of it. And for some spoilers: Spoiler: "case 2 and 3" I can't think of any AJ references that I've run into... |
Author: | Bolt Storm [ Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Spoiler: Response Of course what a lot of this boils down to is the fact Eshiro and co. have said they want to avoid stepping on Takumi's toes with regards to AJ characters and plot. And I can understand this, but Takumi said he thought AJ was the end of the series for him - he only agreed to do PLvsAA because the setting allowed him to make a mystery he wouldn't be able to do in AA games. If AAI was able to acknowledge AJ a bit more, it would probably feel a little more natural in the games' timelines. Personally? I'm hoping at some point Eshiro and Takumi can talk and "hand over" the series to Eshiro's team. If Takumi doesn't want to do a GS5, then by no means should he - but Eshiro's offered his services in making it, and even if he chooses to do GK3 instead, he can work it into the series plot rather than have to keep dodging the end of April. |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:30 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Well, I have a few questions. Only answer Case 5 questions if you finished the game or spoiled yourself on the story and the final boss. Is it ever stated in-game that Yumihiko Ichiyanagi passed the evaluation of the Prosecutor Purge? Because I'm starting to think that Mikagami only agreed with Yumihiko with his "thinking" so she could see that Edgeworth is a competent prosecutor. Then again, it took 4 cases for her to Spoiler: Spoiler: Case 3 spoilers Spoiler: Case 5 massive spoilers Spoiler: Case 5 massive, final boss spoilers |
Author: | Croik [ Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
AnsweringNOW wrote: Spoiler: Case 3 spoilers This is the only one I know the answer to right now: he's identified as Wataru Shirase, and iirc he gets fired afterwards. Not sure if it's significant to anything or anyone, though. Spoiler: "Edgeworth vs Phoenix" |
Author: | Bolt Storm [ Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
I agree that it goes a little too far to work well as irony and sort of lapses into a sort of storyline dissonance. But this is starting to get real off-topic, so maybe we ought to make a separate thread about the whole AJ/AAI thing. |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:01 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Wataru Shirase? What is the name pun in that? |
Author: | FinalClipX [ Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:41 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Does anyone know if the eternal "Ladder vs. Step Ladder" debate comes up in any of the cases? |
Author: | Croik [ Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:57 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Yeah, Bolt, you're right. I think I will once I've actually finished I dunno if the name Wataru Shirase has any significance. Nothing immediately comes to mind... And yes! The ladder returns. Spoiler: "is this really a spoiler? I dunno but let's hide it just in case" |
Author: | FinalClipX [ Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
The tradition lives on! Spoiler: I dunno, I'd do it just in case. |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
What role did Yutaka Kazami had during the investigation? |
Author: | Croik [ Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
AnsweringNOW wrote: What role did Yutaka Kazami had during the investigation? Which one? Spoiler: Case 3 |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
I meant the first investigation, where they were investigating the room with the ship in it. I think Gregory had a chance to talk with Kazami during that time. Other than that, Kazami gets very little screen time while you get to see Oyashiki and Scone a lot more often. Spoiler: Case 3 spoilers What did Gregory talked to Kazami about in that investigation? And why did Spoiler: Case 3 spoilers And I presume that Spoiler: Case 4 spoilers |
Author: | Croik [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:04 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Spoiler: case 3 |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:06 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Hmm... interesting things about Kazami there... Spoiler: Case 3 Spoiler: Case 2 |
Author: | Lusankya [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
One spoiler free question: How difficult is GK2 compared to the other games, especially GK1? I thought that GK1 was incredibly easy, because most of the time Miles figured everything out on his own before the final confrontation. Of course it depends on the player, but I would really like to know if this time there were some really hard to spot contradictions. |
Author: | Croik [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Now that I've finished case four I can answer these: Spoiler: Case 4 Spoiler: Case 3 Spoiler: Case 2 As for the game's difficulty, I've found it to be fairly easy. The logic connections are simpler than ever, and the only testimony that's tripped me up so far was only tricky because I was trying to argue over the wrong contradiction. I hate Logic Chess so maybe I'm biased, but to me it doesn't add any difficult, just frustration. You're supposed to take the character into account in how you approach and question them, but because it's timed you're encouraged to pick fast, which leads to a lot of trial and error, followed by repeating entire sections of conversation... It just comes off as very tedious to me, and so far I can only think of one example where using the Chess setup taught Edgeworth something useful that he hadn't already figured out going in. |
Author: | Eumetazoa [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:28 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
Well, if you only finished case four recently, I guess I can't ask who Gregory is voiced by, unless you've identified him without the credits. If you've gotten deep into case 5, then I have a couple questions: Spoiler: Case Five Spoiler: Final Boss |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:12 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
You might wanna mark that as final boss spoilers for that last question you had. |
Author: | Eumetazoa [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: I just want to know one thing (AAI2 Edition) |
AnsweringNOW wrote: You might wanna mark that as final boss spoilers for that last question you had. Alright, it's done. |
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