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TheIdioteque wrote:
So far, I have no problem with the American voices. Apollo sounds damn near perfect, and Phoenix's voice is growing on me every time I hear it. I really like Blackquill's "Objection!" too. Even though I don't think he has any voiced lines in the cutscenes, his voice and style of speech makes me think he would sound like a bit like Cooler from Dragonball Z Abridged Series. Also, even though he only says two words in the cutscene, The Judge sounded EXACTLY like I had always expected him to sound.
I think the Judge sounds exactly like Tenzin from The Legend of Korra? What do you think?
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...I still love Apollo's voice over everyone's though.
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FenrirDarkWolf wrote:
It seems like the minor characters like the Judge, Gaspen and L'Belle, have SO much better voices than the main characters.
...I still love Apollo's voice over everyone's though.
...I still love Apollo's voice over everyone's though.
Maybe their voices were so good /because/ their lines were so few?
They only had one or two lines to make a good impression, so they probably put a little extra effort into making them just so.
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GreenStripes wrote:
FenrirDarkWolf wrote:
It seems like the minor characters like the Judge, Gaspen and L'Belle, have SO much better voices than the main characters.
...I still love Apollo's voice over everyone's though.
...I still love Apollo's voice over everyone's though.
Maybe their voices were so good /because/ their lines were so few?
They only had one or two lines to make a good impression, so they probably put a little extra effort into making them just so.
Wait, are you saying that the more lines you have, the less effort you put into it? That can't be good for your voice acting career.
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Thane wrote:
GreenStripes wrote:
FenrirDarkWolf wrote:
It seems like the minor characters like the Judge, Gaspen and L'Belle, have SO much better voices than the main characters.
...I still love Apollo's voice over everyone's though.
...I still love Apollo's voice over everyone's though.
Maybe their voices were so good /because/ their lines were so few?
They only had one or two lines to make a good impression, so they probably put a little extra effort into making them just so.
Wait, are you saying that the more lines you have, the less effort you put into it? That can't be good for your voice acting career.
Not at all. If you're a voice actor and your characters have a multitude of lines, you want them all to be performed excellently, of course, but you also have more room to showcase your vocal talents. Your audience may be iffy about your delivery in one scene, but then be sold on another. I wasn't too delighted about Athena's distressed voice, for example, but found her upbeat voice more suitable. Therefore, you have the time and the variety to change a person's opinion who may not have been sold prior.
With actors who have short lines, they don't have that leeway. Their voice has to be pitch perfect for that character in that one short line. There's no room for evolution of the voice or time to let it mature. They have to nail it right then and there.
I have a lot of respect for voice actors and don't mean to imply short line actors work harder than mainstay actors, but that there's less room to slip up in one-line voice work.
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Forever Agent M wrote:
I just realized there's one good reason to love Juniper Woods's voice other than the way she sounds. The actress is Kate Higgins aka Sakura from Shonen Jump's Naruto.
Does anyone think that the Judge is voiced by J.K. Simmons? He voiced Tenzin in The Legend of Korra, so it's possible.
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These are all the opinions I formed about the voicing when I completed the game, and I don't feel like articulating any more opinions than I already have right now, so I'll leave it at that.
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aplab23207 wrote:
Forever Agent M wrote:
I just realized there's one good reason to love Juniper Woods's voice other than the way she sounds. The actress is Kate Higgins aka Sakura from Shonen Jump's Naruto.
Does anyone think that the Judge is voiced by J.K. Simmons? He voiced Tenzin in The Legend of Korra, so it's possible.
J.K. Simmons has a really gruff voice, and he's never associated with videogame acting
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Not 100% sure, but I've heard Udgey is voiced by Dave B. Mitchell.
I believe you're right, the Ace Attorney wiki for the article for the Judge has confirmed that info
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otherwise I really enjoyed it though!
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- Edgeworth's voice at first was like... "Woah!... yuck..." then when he said "For that is part of my creed" It sounded so awesome and I ended up loving that soundbite, and his voice doesn't sound all that bad.
- Apollo's voice initially was too deep, now it sounds perfect to me! I prefer it a lot more! (And am fine with both voices now)
- L'Belle's voice is PERFECT for him! It worked soo well in his cutscene
- Bobby... He's voice is a little too husky for my taste, but it does suit him. (I got too used to his "JUSTICE!" in GS5, but now "In justice we trust" is way better and more fun to say!)
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aplab23207 wrote:
Come to think of it, Quilly is voiced by Troy Baker, right?
I checked the wiki. Apparently so.
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The only voice I had a problem with was Klavier's.... HOLY. MOTHER. OF. GOD. WAS IT BAD. I love Klavier, and his voice was great in AJ:AA - what the hell happened?? I would pay for a patch that would replace his voice with something better, I kid you not.
But overall I think they did a decent job picking the voice actors. Whoever hired Klavier's VA is out of their mind....
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MaimJay wrote:
I loved Phoenix, Athena, Apollo, and Blackquill was alright too. Edgeworth sounded alright when he was talking in cutscenes, but his 'Objection' made me cringe. I think the voice actor was rushing it a bit and fumbled the word, forcing too much accent into it, making it barely understandable (at least to me).
The only voice I had a problem with was Klavier's.... HOLY. MOTHER. OF. GOD. WAS IT BAD. I love Klavier, and his voice was great in AJ:AA - what the hell happened?? I would pay for a patch that would replace his voice with something better, I kid you not.
But overall I think they did a decent job picking the voice actors. Whoever hired Klavier's VA is out of their mind....
((Also- I wish there was a way to opt for the cutscenes in japanese with english subtitles. Maybe they could release something that you could download as an extra feature? It wouldn't take up many blocks and there wouldn't be any new work involved.))
The only voice I had a problem with was Klavier's.... HOLY. MOTHER. OF. GOD. WAS IT BAD. I love Klavier, and his voice was great in AJ:AA - what the hell happened?? I would pay for a patch that would replace his voice with something better, I kid you not.
But overall I think they did a decent job picking the voice actors. Whoever hired Klavier's VA is out of their mind....
((Also- I wish there was a way to opt for the cutscenes in japanese with english subtitles. Maybe they could release something that you could download as an extra feature? It wouldn't take up many blocks and there wouldn't be any new work involved.))
In the previous comments, people talked about Yuri Lowenthal (voice of Ben Tennyson) being Klavier Gavin (who only sounded better in the cutscene). Also, I believe an additional Japanese voice acting patch with subtitles is not a bad idea. In addition, even though Kyle Hebert did a good job on the cutscene voices of Miles Edgeworth, I do agree that the Objection requires some refining
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...I actually liked Klavier's voice though...
That's totally fine! I just always imagined him with a german accent and a deeper voice. Now I would've been fine if it was as high as it was, but usually when you get someone from Germany, especially if they still integrate german into their english sentences, they would have a german accent. But then you get Klavier speaking with the most plain american accent you can get and it's just ... eerie.
But like it if you want! It makes the game experience much better for you ahaha.
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MaimJay wrote:
FenrirDarkWolf wrote:
...I actually liked Klavier's voice though...
That's totally fine! I just always imagined him with a german accent and a deeper voice. Now I would've been fine if it was as high as it was, but usually when you get someone from Germany, especially if they still integrate german into their english sentences, they would have a german accent. But then you get Klavier speaking with the most plain american accent you can get and it's just ... eerie.
But like it if you want! It makes the game experience much better for you ahaha.
tbh, I thought Klavier and Kristoph were American with fake German accents anyway. ^^'
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Particular mention go to Phoenix and Edgeworth. I admit though, that I'm biased against Phoenix's VA. I think Sam Riegal is one of the worst American VAs I've ever heard.
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Forever Agent M wrote:
O gosh, this is just retarded, but it takes 2 voice actors to make up Simon Blackquill, believe it or not. I was doing some Ace Attorney wiki article editing when I stumble upon something fishy on Simon Blackquill's article. Under the actors category, it was said that Troy Baker voiced Simon Blackquill in the launch trailer and said OBJECTION, but Travis Willingham (I think plenty of you are like "Who is he?" or "He sounds familiar") did the SILENCE. So yea, that explains how the SILENCE couldn't appeal to everyone.
Has this actually been confirmed anywhere, though?
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Forever Agent M wrote:
O gosh, this is just retarded, but it takes 2 voice actors to make up Simon Blackquill, believe it or not. I was doing some Ace Attorney wiki article editing when I stumble upon something fishy on Simon Blackquill's article. Under the actors category, it was said that Troy Baker voiced Simon Blackquill in the launch trailer and said OBJECTION, but Travis Willingham (I think plenty of you are like "Who is he?" or "He sounds familiar") did the SILENCE. So yea, that explains how the SILENCE couldn't appeal to everyone.
That explains why those two lines sound like they came from a totally different person, I had wondered about that and it irked me everytime OBJECTION and SILENCE were near each other. SILENCE to me sounded better for Blackquill honestly, where as OBJECTION sounded weird, but that's my opinion.
The only voices in the anime scenes that bugged me are Apollo and Klavier. Klavier because he really didn't seem to have a German accent in his voice, and Apollo was too low of a voice if you ask me. After all even in the game more than once Phoenix is telling Apollo to use his 'inside voice' as Apollo is often depicted as having a high-pitched loud voice, to me his voice in the anime scenes was far too low and mellow for him.
Athena and Phoenix seemed perfectly fine to me, and Edgeworth sounded perfect when I heard that voice I was like hell yes that voice does fit him
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Barring Apollo and Blackquill, I thought the voice acting was generally cringe-worthy.
Particular mention go to Phoenix and Edgeworth. I admit though, that I'm biased against Phoenix's VA. I think Sam Riegal is one of the worst American VAs I've ever heard.
Particular mention go to Phoenix and Edgeworth. I admit though, that I'm biased against Phoenix's VA. I think Sam Riegal is one of the worst American VAs I've ever heard.
I agree, his Phoenix just doesn't sit well with me, which is strange because his performance in Fire Emblem: Awakening is pretty good.
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I'm still playing the game (on case four), but it takes me out of the moment every. Single. Time. Especially Athena yelling Apollo's name and the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP! cut scene near the end of case three. So anime. So cringe-worthy.
Really, though. Do they not teach subtlety in anime voice actor school? I kinda wish they'd just done music/text over the animation (which was all lovely).
I like Apollo's voice, though. Maybe because that kind of voice fits him?
Apollo could be voiced by Dan "I AM GOING TO HAVE SOME MILK. AND NOW I WILL DO MY LAUNDRY." Green and I would still be behind that. You work those Chords of Steel, Apollo.
... All that said: There is not a more annoying soundbite in the world than Blackquill's "Silence". I'm gonna snap. I can't take it anymore.
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Especially with the crossover in mind, I expected something kind of like Professor Layton's voice acting... sort of understated and stylistic, if caricatured. Instead I got GENERIC HAMMY ANIME VOICE ACTING!!!: The Uprising.
I'm still playing the game (on case four), but it takes me out of the moment every. Single. Time. Especially Athena yelling Apollo's name and the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP! cut scene near the end of case three. So anime. So cringe-worthy.
Really, though. Do they not teach subtlety in anime voice actor school? I kinda wish they'd just done music/text over the animation (which was all lovely).
I like Apollo's voice, though. Maybe because that kind of voice fits him?
Apollo could be voiced by Dan "I AM GOING TO HAVE SOME MILK. AND NOW I WILL DO MY LAUNDRY." Green and I would still be behind that. You work those Chords of Steel, Apollo.
... All that said: There is not a more annoying soundbite in the world than Blackquill's "Silence". I'm gonna snap. I can't take it anymore.
I'm still playing the game (on case four), but it takes me out of the moment every. Single. Time. Especially Athena yelling Apollo's name and the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP! cut scene near the end of case three. So anime. So cringe-worthy.
Really, though. Do they not teach subtlety in anime voice actor school? I kinda wish they'd just done music/text over the animation (which was all lovely).
I like Apollo's voice, though. Maybe because that kind of voice fits him?
Apollo could be voiced by Dan "I AM GOING TO HAVE SOME MILK. AND NOW I WILL DO MY LAUNDRY." Green and I would still be behind that. You work those Chords of Steel, Apollo.
... All that said: There is not a more annoying soundbite in the world than Blackquill's "Silence". I'm gonna snap. I can't take it anymore.
This is exactly what I feel about it.
I had turn my headphones off during case 5. Edgeworth's voice acting made me wince with every 'Objection'.
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I'm going to be honest, most of the cutscene dialog has been pretty wooden so far. It's not the worst. voice acting I've ever heard, but it isn't great. It hasn't been a big negative though as I knew it was going to happen. It might also be the lines themselves, though, as the dialogue is pretty over the top and wooden alone.
On the other hand, so far everyone's gameplay voice effects (Objection!, Hold It!, etc.) sound great, and that's what you hear more often, so I'm please about that.
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I'm on the second investigation of case 2 right now, so I've only seen around 6 cutscenes.
I'm going to be honest, most of the cutscene dialog has been pretty wooden so far. It's not the worst. voice acting I've ever heard, but it isn't great. It hasn't been a big negative though as I knew it was going to happen. It might also be the lines themselves, though, as the dialogue is pretty over the top and wooden alone.
On the other hand, so far everyone's gameplay voice effects (Objection!, Hold It!, etc.) sound great, and that's what you hear more often, so I'm please about that.
I'm going to be honest, most of the cutscene dialog has been pretty wooden so far. It's not the worst. voice acting I've ever heard, but it isn't great. It hasn't been a big negative though as I knew it was going to happen. It might also be the lines themselves, though, as the dialogue is pretty over the top and wooden alone.
On the other hand, so far everyone's gameplay voice effects (Objection!, Hold It!, etc.) sound great, and that's what you hear more often, so I'm please about that.
To be honest, I skipped the cutscenes during my second playthrough because I share your opinion. True, they are not terrible, but they could certainly be much better. My not liking the cutscenes very much to begin with has something to do with it as well. I do like the voice clips--Edgeworth's was a surprise but I soon got used to it.
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At this point, I'm assuming Sam Riegel will return as Phoenix in PLvsPWAA; I wonder if the change in direction (if there is one) will make any difference to his performance? I've always loved the voice-acting in the Prof. Layton games.
Edit: OK, I did some research, and Sam Riegel is Jude Mathis in Tales of Xillia, and Stahl in Fire Emblem: Awakening. He hit those two roles out of the park. His portrayal of Jude especially was so, so good. It's definitely the direction in DD.
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I wanna note that I actually love all these voice actors in general because I've seen them in other games/shows/etc but I feel like some of them were just horribly miscasted (is that a word?) here.
I'll start with those that I did like. I really liked Apollo's voice; maybe I'd like it a bit higher, but that's just a nitpick because it does kinda make him seem more mature and experienced. However, any time that he and Phoenix were in the same room, I had NO IDEA who was talking. I swear they sound exactly the same. I hear an Objection and if I don't look at the screen, I'm not sure which of them shouted it.
I didn't mind Athena's, really. Since I had no voice in mind, whatever voice she got was fine for me. Sure it was kinda hit-or-miss with some of her lines but I was pretty lenient on the narminess of their voices, maybe cuz I've watched a lot of dubs.
Is it just me or does Blackquill's "Objection!" sound like he's stuffed his face with marshmellows? It sounds so muffled to me! I can't believe that's Troy Baker O.o I do like his "Silence!" though. It almost made me like his voice, but... for some reason I have settled into imagining Steve Blum playing him. SEE YA, SPACE COWBOY.
I love Yuri Lowenthal but... something just doesn't sound right with him as Klavier. He should have a deeper voice imo.
I pretended I didn't hear Edgeworth's objection whenever it happened. I love Kyle Hebert too but... that's just WAY too deep! Hell, the voice Frasier made up for him in Video Games Awesome was preferable to me.
Phoenix's is a tough one. It's not bad, and his VA made some improvements from Marvel vs. Capcom (he'd try to sound enthusiastic but it just sounded, I dunno, empty? Something was missing in his voice, I found myself getting tense just listening to it, like I was waiting for something more.). BUT his voice sounds a bit too young, and I just try to think back to the old original trilogy Objection whenever his new objection tries to change his voice for me in my head. It's not bad, but I'm just too smitten with the original voice I've had in my head for him all this time to accept it.
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In all seriousness, even though it wasn't that great of voice acting, I didn't really mind too much.
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