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I wonder whether Aura x Metis in one-sided, or not...
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I wonder whether Aura x Metis in one-sided, or not...


No sign of a father for little Athena-bot so there's always that...


Spoiler: Case 5 However
"I wanted more than her respect as a colleague!" Or something along those lines is the big evidence here and it seems to indicate it was one-sided. "Wanted" indicates it wasn't quite reciprocated love, whether she got knocked back or just never made her feelings clear is a mystery.

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Ok, we've got some Justicykes, Junipollo, Cykesquill, and Auratis (AuraXMetis). But, I did notice a hint of the Mayanix pairing in 5-5.
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Ok, we've got some Justicykes, Junipollo, Cykesquill, and Auratis (AuraXMetis). But, I did notice a hint of the Mayanix pairing in 5-5.
Spoiler: Off Topic
For those who didn't know, I am a Mayanix, Edgeziska, and Justicykes shipper.



Maya gets ONE mention in 5-5 and it's shippable?
Right go on...indulge me. Where in the letter is the evidence of a romantic relationship and not just a correspondence between old friends?
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Pierre wrote:
aplab23207 wrote:
Ok, we've got some Justicykes, Junipollo, Cykesquill, and Auratis (AuraXMetis). But, I did notice a hint of the Mayanix pairing in 5-5.
Spoiler: Off Topic
For those who didn't know, I am a Mayanix, Edgeziska, and Justicykes shipper.



Maya gets ONE mention in 5-5 and it's shippable?
Right go on...indulge me. Where in the letter is the evidence of a romantic relationship and not just a correspondence between old friends?

:objection: It's not in the letter. Phoenix says it himself!
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Ok, we've got some Justicykes, Junipollo, Cykesquill, and Auratis (AuraXMetis). But, I did notice a hint of the Mayanix pairing in 5-5.
Spoiler: Off Topic
For those who didn't know, I am a Mayanix, Edgeziska, and Justicykes shipper.



Maya gets ONE mention in 5-5 and it's shippable?
Right go on...indulge me. Where in the letter is the evidence of a romantic relationship and not just a correspondence between old friends?

:objection: It's not in the letter. Phoenix says it himself!


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So...
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did Aura really want Metis that way? Is it canon?
Because it isn't exactly subtle
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I knew this thread would eventually appear. I just wanted to be the person to make it. :edgeworth: Ah, well.

I'm torn between whether I want to support ApolloXJuniper or ApolloXAthena. The Juniper pairing is far more blatant, but you can just see how similar Apollo and Athena are in personality in nearly every situation. Like in the final movie,
Spoiler: Ending spoiler
both Athena and Apollo have a huge outburst of emotion as Starbuck gets back into space. They even high-five at one point.
I could go on, but others have pointed out the evidence far better than I have. (I'm also glad at least one other person went around presenting every piece of evidence to everyone when they could.)

I'm not a fan of AthenaXBlackquill. He's older, sure, but he was definitely more a protective white (black?) knight, throwing himself in front of the attack to protect the girl. And while Athena wanted to save Blackquill, it was more because she knew he was innocent, not out of any romantic feelings. I could possibly see MetisXBlackquill, at least one-sided on his part. Too bad we couldn't analyse him while he was talking about Athena's mom. On second thought, that probably would've creeped her out.

I don't want to dwell on it too much, but I'm also generally in the camp that I don't like gay pairings. Not for any homophobic reasons, but because people usually just grab any two characters, throw them together and say "There! Paired!" Is it no longer possible for two people to just be friends? Wright and Edgeworth were childhood friends, but so was Butz, and I don't see any WrightXButz or ButzXEdgeworth pairings. Aura and Metis, though... there's definitely something more going on than just protege and mentor there. Not quite sure what, but it's there. (Plus, AuraXGun. She's snuggling that thing a bit too much at times.)

You know, I never really saw Ponco and Clonco interact with each other, so I don't know how well they'd do together. The closest it came was in court, when Aura possessed Clonco and Ponco took the stand. However, I'm pretty sure they're certainly compatible; I bet you could swap their parts without any issues whatsoever! :gant:
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Pierre wrote:
Brothers? Ponco is clearly a girl xD


Come on, we've been down this road before with the pink badger in AAI :edgey:


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So...
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did Aura really want Metis that way? Is it canon?
Because it isn't exactly subtle


I'd say it's as close to canon it can get without being actually said straight out, kind of like
Spoiler: GK2
Mari Miwa and that judge

The only thing I've seen that implies it wasn't one-sided was that "...almost as much as she loved you". Then again, it was Apollo who said it. But they seem to have had a very close relationship so it's very plausible it was two-sided.
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I knew this thread would eventually appear. I just wanted to be the person to make it. :edgeworth: Ah, well.

I'm torn between whether I want to support ApolloXJuniper or ApolloXAthena. The Juniper pairing is far more blatant, but you can just see how similar Apollo and Athena are in personality in nearly every situation. Like in the final movie,
Spoiler: Ending spoiler
both Athena and Apollo have a huge outburst of emotion as Starbuck gets back into space. They even high-five at one point.
I could go on, but others have pointed out the evidence far better than I have. (I'm also glad at least one other person went around presenting every piece of evidence to everyone when they could.)


That's basically the main reason why I don't ship them. I believe they work better as friends, rather than a couple based on similarities in personality. Not to mention Athena seemed more like a shipper of Junipollo herself. (Yeah yeah, some people could argue that she was just pretending to be one and so on. I find the idea of a love triangle to be incredibly corny tbh.)
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Murasaki wrote:
Rognik wrote:
I knew this thread would eventually appear. I just wanted to be the person to make it. :edgeworth: Ah, well.

I'm torn between whether I want to support ApolloXJuniper or ApolloXAthena. The Juniper pairing is far more blatant, but you can just see how similar Apollo and Athena are in personality in nearly every situation. Like in the final movie,
Spoiler: Ending spoiler
both Athena and Apollo have a huge outburst of emotion as Starbuck gets back into space. They even high-five at one point.
I could go on, but others have pointed out the evidence far better than I have. (I'm also glad at least one other person went around presenting every piece of evidence to everyone when they could.)


That's basically the main reason why I don't ship them. I believe they work better as friends, rather than a couple based on similarities in personality. Not to mention Athena seemed more like a shipper of Junipollo herself. (Yeah yeah, some people could argue that she was just pretending to be one and so on. I find the idea of a love triangle to be incredibly corny tbh.)


I agree with you on this one. Apollo and Athena seem more like 'partners' imo, and Athena did truly seem to be cheering on her friend.

Of fans who have only played Dual Destinies, some ship ApolloxTrucy, or "Trustice" now, and oh boy.
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Of fans who have only played Dual Destinies, some ship ApolloxTrucy, or "Trustice" now, and oh boy.


Wait, really? That's hilarious! I guess that's what happens when you don't focus on continuity.
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Of fans who have only played Dual Destinies, some ship ApolloxTrucy, or "Trustice" now, and oh boy.


Wait, really? That's hilarious! I guess that's what happens when you don't focus on continuity.

Odd, why would they do that? Since she barely does anything in the game.
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Thane wrote:
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Of fans who have only played Dual Destinies, some ship ApolloxTrucy, or "Trustice" now, and oh boy.


Wait, really? That's hilarious! I guess that's what happens when you don't focus on continuity.

Odd, why would they do that? Since she barely does anything in the game.


Apollo and Trucy interacted at one point, isn't that enough for most shippers?
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Murasaki wrote:
Rognik wrote:
I knew this thread would eventually appear. I just wanted to be the person to make it. :edgeworth: Ah, well.

I'm torn between whether I want to support ApolloXJuniper or ApolloXAthena. The Juniper pairing is far more blatant, but you can just see how similar Apollo and Athena are in personality in nearly every situation. Like in the final movie,
Spoiler: Ending spoiler
both Athena and Apollo have a huge outburst of emotion as Starbuck gets back into space. They even high-five at one point.
I could go on, but others have pointed out the evidence far better than I have. (I'm also glad at least one other person went around presenting every piece of evidence to everyone when they could.)


That's basically the main reason why I don't ship them. I believe they work better as friends, rather than a couple based on similarities in personality. Not to mention Athena seemed more like a shipper of Junipollo herself. (Yeah yeah, some people could argue that she was just pretending to be one and so on. I find the idea of a love triangle to be incredibly corny tbh.)


Apollo and Athena have a conversation in the game that approaches this very topic,

Spoiler: Case 3
when presenting the newspaper to him. I don't remember the exact words, but it goes kind of like this:

Apollo: A torrid love triangle...Juniper sure is popular with the guys.
Athena: I can't blame them. Junie's always been so sweet and caring.
Apollo: .........
Athena: You're thinking "Why can't Athena be more like that?" aren't you?
Apollo: N-No! That idea's never even crossed my mind!
Athena: (Let me see...Panic...Sorrow...Yep, that idea has definitely crossed his mind. *sigh*)

That can lead to several interpretations, such as Apollo being scared of Athena, or him liking Juniper's personality, or even to him having feelings for both girls, but being just too dense to realize.


I myself lean more towards ApolloxAthena, not only because of their personality match (I don't see Apollo wanting to be with someone so sickly like Juniper, but that's just me), but more because

Spoiler: Case 5
they had the opportunity to solidify the bases of their relationship, romantic or not, when the suspicions he had on her were cleared. Until he was sure she wasn't his best friend's murderer, Apollo would never be able to fully trust Athena. That might not even lead to a romantic relationship (it does in my headcanon lol), but it would at least make them closer to each other.
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After finishing Turnabout Reclaimed, I just have to drop this in here. There is a very complicated relationship going on here...
Spoiler: 2nd day trial
Blackquill: We talked about this yesterday. What purpose does that brain of yours serve?
Phoenix: Gak!
Crab: You're even more birdbrained than Rifle.
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Witness, I will not allow birds to be belittled in my presence!
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Phoenix: (So I get disparaged either way. Great.)
Crab: Hmph. Bird lover, huh? I guess we're not destined to become best friends.
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And how about
Spoiler: Special Episode
Marlon and Azura?

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And how about
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Marlon and Azura?

Pfft, that's too obvious.
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And, of course,
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Phoenix X Orla

He even fell for her! (terrible, I know)
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Rognik wrote:
I knew this thread would eventually appear. I just wanted to be the person to make it. :edgeworth: Ah, well.

I'm torn between whether I want to support ApolloXJuniper or ApolloXAthena. The Juniper pairing is far more blatant, but you can just see how similar Apollo and Athena are in personality in nearly every situation. Like in the final movie,
Spoiler: Ending spoiler
both Athena and Apollo have a huge outburst of emotion as Starbuck gets back into space. They even high-five at one point.
I could go on, but others have pointed out the evidence far better than I have. (I'm also glad at least one other person went around presenting every piece of evidence to everyone when they could.)

I'm not a fan of AthenaXBlackquill. He's older, sure, but he was definitely more a protective white (black?) knight, throwing himself in front of the attack to protect the girl. And while Athena wanted to save Blackquill, it was more because she knew he was innocent, not out of any romantic feelings. I could possibly see MetisXBlackquill, at least one-sided on his part. Too bad we couldn't analyse him while he was talking about Athena's mom. On second thought, that probably would've creeped her out.

I don't want to dwell on it too much, but I'm also generally in the camp that I don't like gay pairings. Not for any homophobic reasons, but because people usually just grab any two characters, throw them together and say "There! Paired!" Is it no longer possible for two people to just be friends? Wright and Edgeworth were childhood friends, but so was Butz, and I don't see any WrightXButz or ButzXEdgeworth pairings. Aura and Metis, though... there's definitely something more going on than just protege and mentor there. Not quite sure what, but it's there. (Plus, AuraXGun. She's snuggling that thing a bit too much at times.)

You know, I never really saw Ponco and Clonco interact with each other, so I don't know how well they'd do together. The closest it came was in court, when Aura possessed Clonco and Ponco took the stand. However, I'm pretty sure they're certainly compatible; I bet you could swap their parts without any issues whatsoever! :gant:

Exactly. This is the possible hints of pairings in-game thread, not the pairing characters for fun thread. Plus, what you said about Cykesquill is true, but I like to think of Blackquill as Athena's brother figure.
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Spoiler: Joke Pairing
Brushel/Means/Blaise Debeste. They all have the creepy smiles.


I probably translated wrong, but I'm pretty sure Apollo and Junie got together in Turnabout Quiz. Also, the one-sided AuraxMetis is very obvious.
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DerpeyHerpmann wrote:
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Brushel/Means/Blaise Debeste. They all have the creepy smiles.


I probably translated wrong, but I'm pretty sure Apollo and Junie got together in Turnabout Quiz. Also, the one-sided AuraxMetis is very obvious.

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I probably translated wrong, but I'm pretty sure Apollo and Junie got together in Turnabout Quiz.

For an instant, yes. Or according to chapter 2, Juniper was so glad to have her knight in shining armor appear to free her from her imprisonment. So was Athena, with a little more focus on kicking someone's arse.

If GS6 stars Apollo, I can already see the dating sim parody portion of it.

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This thread is made ONLY for discussing logical hints of pairings in DUAL DESTINIES, which is why it's in the Themis Legal Academy subforum. Do not pair characters that haven't recurred with characters in Dual Destinies.

Aw, come on, man. You keep limiting what we discuss here, so we barely have anything to discuss. But you have a point; there's already a general pairings thread in the Defendant's Lobby.


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Again, what if the Junipollo pairing was canon, and Juniper was the judge presiding over a trial that Apollo and Klavier were handling? It would be so weird.
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Adrian in black wrote:
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Justicykes
Junipollo
Mayanix
Trustice
Cykesquill


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Actually, I can see Simon being just a big brother to Athena.

You forgot Edgeziska in hat quote.
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aplab23207 wrote:
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aplab23207 wrote:
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Justicykes
Junipollo
Mayanix
Trustice
Cykesquill


AUUUUGGGGGHHHHHH AMALGAMPORTMANTEAFUSIONOVERLOAD

Actually, I can see Simon being just a big brother to Athena.

You forgot Edgeziska in hat quote.


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I probably translated wrong, but I'm pretty sure Apollo and Junie got together in Turnabout Quiz.


Why?
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GoingforMiles wrote:
DerpeyHerpmann wrote:
I probably translated wrong, but I'm pretty sure Apollo and Junie got together in Turnabout Quiz.


Why?


That can't be, right? It seems highly unlikely to me, unless TQuiz is some alternate universe side-story thing.
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I think Athena and Trucy will trick Apollo on taking Juniper out on a date and there they will get involved in a murder some how and Apollo must defend Juniper (Yes I know a cliche case :meekins: )
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I think Athena and Trucy will trick Apollo on taking Juniper out on a date and there they will get involved in a murder some how and Apollo must defend Juniper (Yes I know a cliche case :meekins: )


So Juniper is going to be the new Maggey Byrde? After all, that'd be her third arrest.
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:objection:
Dun. Dun. Dun. Dun. WHAM! Guys, I have some evidence! What Aura said about Metis:
Spoiler: Case 5
"Her respect as a co-worker wasn't all that I wanted!"

It wasn't a statement of love, but friendship!
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And, of course,
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Phoenix X Orla

He even fell for her! (terrible, I know)

No, not terrible, literally!
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The only thing I've seen that implies it wasn't one-sided was that "...almost as much as she loved you". Then again, it was Apollo who said it. But they seem to have had a very close relationship so it's very plausible it was two-sided.

I kind of view that line as something of the sort "she loved you", but kind of like a very close friend. Not fully satisfying to Aura, but I suppose it still would matter to her.
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Guys, I have some evidence! What Aura said about Metis:
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"Her respect as a co-worker wasn't all that I wanted!"

It wasn't a statement of love, but friendship!

I'd like to hear you explain how this is evidence.

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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
aplab23207 wrote:
Guys, I have some evidence! What Aura said about Metis:
Spoiler: Case 5
"Her respect as a co-worker wasn't all that I wanted!"

It wasn't a statement of love, but friendship!

I'd like to hear you explain how this is evidence.


Agreed Aplab, if anything I hold that as strong evidence against her. That statement makes it seem like she wanted more than just friendship.
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aplab23207 wrote:
Guys, I have some evidence! What Aura said about Metis:
Spoiler: Case 5
"Her respect as a co-worker wasn't all that I wanted!"

It wasn't a statement of love, but friendship!

That isn't really evidence at all... I mean, sure, it doesn't necessarily specify that it was romantic, but I'm pretty sure that's what the writers were intending with it-- after all, didn't she have that whole "obsessive" type thing going on with the picture and all? I know you don't like gay pairings or whatever, but don't try and pretend that the evidence indicates something different just because you don't like what it indicates. :ron:
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drvonkitty wrote:
aplab23207 wrote:
Guys, I have some evidence! What Aura said about Metis:
Spoiler: Case 5
"Her respect as a co-worker wasn't all that I wanted!"

It wasn't a statement of love, but friendship!

That isn't really evidence at all... I mean, sure, it doesn't necessarily specify that it was romantic, but I'm pretty sure that's what the writers were intending with it-- after all, didn't she have that whole "obsessive" type thing going on with the picture and all? I know you don't like gay pairings or whatever, but don't try and pretend that the evidence indicates something different just because you don't like what it indicates. :ron:

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But where's your evidence that it was a statement of love, Kitty-dono? Can you prove that? I THINK NOT!


Yeah Aplab it's true it's not concrete proof but this thread is only about hints and it definitely seems a stronger hint towards romantic feeling than mutual friendship (which seemed to be what they already had).

However yeah you might not see it and that's fine, just saying it's a possibility.
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That's almost exactly how I interpreted it, Aplab, but I can definitely see why other people would interpret it as a sign of romantic feelings. It's left ambiguous enough that it could be interpreted either way. That's the way it tends to be with a lot of potential pairings; neither supporters nor skeptics nor opponents are likely to have conclusive evidence to support their views.
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By the way, we are here to discuss these hints and not to play all cool and speak Ace-Attorney-like talk...
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