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Something about all the yelling is charming.
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That scene in court was... pretty awkward, though
Yes I felt bad afterwards it seemed...wrong
Spoiler: Robin's big twist
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Pierre wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
That scene in court was... pretty awkward, though
Yes I felt bad afterwards it seemed...wrong
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Spoiler: The same thing.
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emimprov wrote:
Perhaps this was answered in another thread, or maybe it was better explained in the Japanese version...
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I've wondered that myself... And I hope it's explained in the Japanese version.
With it being so important (at least in the first trial day) you'd think they'd go over it in more detail.
...Then again, other parts of the game's story seemed a bit... rushed, so...
Well? Are we going or what?
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Perhaps this was answered in another thread, or maybe it was better explained in the Japanese version...
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Excuse me for crushing your hopes, but the original version gives nothing else. In fact, I was disappointed that the localization DIDN'T do anything to change that bit. It's one of those things that you can sort of take for granted in one version, but not the other, given the different cultural backgrounds. But even among the Japanese fanbase, many found it a bit extreme.
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Coyote wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
That scene in court was... pretty awkward, though
Yes I felt bad afterwards it seemed...wrong
Spoiler: Robin's big twist
Spoiler: The same thing.
Don't forget the "Robin can't be a man! Robin is so intense, and there's no way a woman could be like that!" >_>
I initially thought Robin was going to be gay and/or trans and/or a crossdresser. But... nope.
Not only that, but it didn't even seem to have to do with anything afterwards. Even now I can't remember how Robin's testimony as a whole mattered/fit into everything ~_~
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emimprov wrote:
Perhaps this was answered in another thread, or maybe it was better explained in the Japanese version...
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Excuse me for crushing your hopes, but the original version gives nothing else. In fact, I was disappointed that the localization DIDN'T do anything to change that bit. It's one of those things that you can sort of take for granted in one version, but not the other, given the different cultural backgrounds. But even among the Japanese fanbase, many found it a bit extreme.
Source?
(*wants to invade Japanese AA fandom*)
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Not only that, but it didn't even seem to have to do with anything afterwards. Even now I can't remember how Robin's testimony as a whole mattered/fit into everything ~_~
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Alright, then. I'm not going to fight you on this, but... maybe look into some accounts from people who have actually been raised the opposite gender, and how that affects them beyond their physical bodies? I'm not qualified to speak. I don't think you're hateful, but I do think you might be a little misinformed or under-informed about this.
(Edited because it sounded condescending when I read it back. We keep getting into scuffles about this kind of stuff, but I don't mean any ill will.) (Edited again because I missed a word. Whoops.)
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Bad Player wrote:
Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
emimprov wrote:
Perhaps this was answered in another thread, or maybe it was better explained in the Japanese version...
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Excuse me for crushing your hopes, but the original version gives nothing else. In fact, I was disappointed that the localization DIDN'T do anything to change that bit. It's one of those things that you can sort of take for granted in one version, but not the other, given the different cultural backgrounds. But even among the Japanese fanbase, many found it a bit extreme.
Source?
(*wants to invade Japanese AA fandom*)
Wait, what's this GyakuSai Pokemon Trial thread about...?
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I had thought it was mentioned in a throwaway line somewhere that her parents had really wanted a boy or that the Prosecution course was somewhat biased towards male prosecutors and she was doing it to have the best chance of success.
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Coyote wrote:
Sligneris wrote:
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Alright, then. I'm not going to fight you on this, but... maybe look into some accounts from people who have actually been raised the opposite gender, and how that affects them beyond their physical bodies? I'm not qualified to speak. I don't think you're hateful, but I do think you might be a little misinformed or under-informed about this.
(Edited because it sounded condescending when I read it back. We keep getting into scuffles about this kind of stuff, but I don't mean any ill will.) (Edited again because I missed a word. Whoops.)
You know, I edited my post too ^^;
Also, it definitely is not the case until the end of the game and and even then, she actually seems to be more comfortable with being a girl...
Still don't get why she would be transgendered.
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Wait, what's this GyakuSai Pokemon Trial thread about...?
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Like Coyote said, Robin isn't actually trans, but is basically written as (an analog to) one. The important thing is that Robin was raised as a gender that isn't her own. It's not "she was born a girl and is a girl"; it's "she was raised a boy and is a girl." For most (all?) trans people, this is because their gender is different from their physical sex, and most(/all) people are raised according to their physical sex. For Robin, however, she was raised different from her true gender... because her parents are jerks. Still, (assuming their intention was to create a "trans character,") this allowed them to put in a basically-trans character without putting in a (controversial) actually-trans character.
Hmm... I wonder if the original intention was for Robin to actually be trans, but then the higher-ups forced them to change it to avoid controversy? It would explain why there's only a token explanation for why Robin was raised as a boy... (Although considering how many problems DD has, I'm not going to bank too hard on this ~_~)
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Bad Player wrote:
Hmm... I wonder if the original intention was for Robin to actually be trans, but then the higher-ups forced them to change it to avoid controversy? It would explain why there's only a token explanation for why Robin was raised as a boy... (Although considering how many problems DD has, I'm not going to bank too hard on this ~_~)
It's right next to her second concept design... I think... Not, really.
That, and they very certainly wanted players to interact with her female self. Having a still-male character behaving like this... (you know, people don't change their gender in one day) ...I don't think I need to comment.
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Coyote wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
That scene in court was... pretty awkward, though
Yes I felt bad afterwards it seemed...wrong
Spoiler: Robin's big twist
Spoiler: The same thing.
Yes, I agree here. Spoiler-tagging just in case.
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And also: I loved Robin.
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Her animation where she covers her face is one of my favourites in the game, she's adorable. She also has the cringiest line in the game though "full on YOLO is what art's all about", uuuuuuuuuugh.
When Athena was dragging out the truth (glad other people had a problem with that too, it was fucked up), I was actually hoping she was a cross dresser but nope, she just has awful parents.
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GoingforMiles wrote:
I think the Robin-as-a-symbol-for-transsexuality is interesting, and it does make sense. I mean, if it wasn't for her breasts (because I doubt that she, in her situation, would have had the opportunity to take hormones) she could just as well have been a transperson; her story with being raised as a boy and keeping up the appearance even in front of her closest friends, trying to act stereotypically manly while being drawn to all things considered female, it does sound like a typical scenario for a transperson, especially since she was trying so hard to hide it yet seemed so revealed when it was finally out in the open. Intended or not, it's cool that they at least touched the surface of the issue.
I absolutely agree here.
...which almost makes the outing even more unsettling.
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Why hasn't someone mentioned one of the best references in this game?
Mr. Birdman
I've lately gotten into switching Simon for Harvey.
Mr. Birdman
I've lately gotten into switching Simon for Harvey.
Oh that was a reference to something? I thought she was just being cute.
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Louise wrote:
Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
Why hasn't someone mentioned one of the best references in this game?
Mr. Birdman
I've lately gotten into switching Simon for Harvey.
Mr. Birdman
I've lately gotten into switching Simon for Harvey.
Oh that was a reference to something? I thought she was just being cute.
It's an American thing. Capcom US even published a game based on the series that plays like Ace Attorney.
The fact that Phoenix is the name of a bird is a coincidence, but the fact Blackquill has a bird on his shoulder isn't.
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However, the fact she was female was kinda obvious from the moment she appeared in the intro... xD
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Sligneris wrote:
Before DD was released I was actually kinda wondering whether there would ever be a trap character in AA series. I guessed right, in a way.
However, the fact she was female was kinda obvious from the moment she appeared in the intro... xD
However, the fact she was female was kinda obvious from the moment she appeared in the intro... xD
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Sligneris wrote:
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Maybe her going on about manliness should have been a clue.
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Ah seeing that concept art of Robin smashing a plate just makes me remember how AWWWWEEESSSOOMMMMEEEEE Robin is!
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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
Why hasn't someone mentioned one of the best references in this game?
Mr. Birdman
I've lately gotten into switching Simon for Harvey.
Mr. Birdman
I've lately gotten into switching Simon for Harvey.
Hah!
I had to have it pointed out to finally get the reference. Also, did Robin really say "YOLO"? Was it when you press her? Or normal text, because I missed that.
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Also, did Robin really say "YOLO"? Was it when you press her? Or normal text, because I missed that.
It was in the second investigation, when presenting irrelevant evidence to her, IIRC.
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I don't know about you guys. But when I first encountered Robin, I thought that he was.......Hot?
I so c wat u did thar.
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