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And let's of course not forget :

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For my part, the character I couldn't bear to see was this one :

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He's so... ugly and dirty and sweaty, and he seems so smelly. :kudo:

But Athena ? God I love her expressions ! They are so funny !
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But Athena ? God I love her expressions ! They are so funny !


Yeah. Her expressions were so silly. My brother found them ugly and... Overall, her faces... meh... wonky. So confuzzling... :meekins:
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Well, it's nothing surprising if you're used to animes. Japaneses love to exaggerate expressions. It shows even in their movies !
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I think all of Athena's animations are good, except for the peace one and her "bummed" animation as was mentioned earlier. The one where she goes "eeek!" is nice, and I like her rage-animation as well.
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Kaiwatt wrote:
Well, it's nothing surprising if you're used to animes. Japaneses love to exaggerate expressions. It shows even in their movies !


The reason those faces are wonky to me is that I'm used to the animation style of the first games. They made realistic expressions. But Dual Destinies did much more with its 3-D animation. It had more depth, and it looks like Ace Attorney got a new animation studio making the graphics. And it looks like future Ace Attorney games are going to be on the 3DS! I want the graphics to be like the first games! Not this cheesy animation! I know anime style doesn't have realistic expressions, but this is Ace Attorney. They did fine in the first games and now in this game they went for anime expressions. But not many characters beside Athena did this. But in this game characters can do many unrealistic things, so yeah. For example, Tonate's telescope eyes. Ugghhh... so unrealistic but fun to look at!
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If you look in the back-catalog you'll suddently realise that all games helmed by the GK-team has more "anime" feel to the characters than in the other games. It's not the 3D graphics that make it look more wonky, it's the art-direction for Dual Destinies that does it compared to the direction of for example PLvsPWAA to pick something close, where the expressions seemed more human for the most part.

But at the end of the day, all Ace Attorney games are very anime, let's not beat around that bush.
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I'm sorry but I've never seen any "realism" in AA's character design... It's clearly anime oriented since the very first game.
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Yes, they have some anime designs, but compare that to Athena's animation. Hers is overly cartoony and unrealistic. The first games' expressions had more realism than if you saw Athena's face in the pictures shown before.
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I agree. People who can't see that are overlooking something, but with that said, I don't have a problem with Athena's overall design myself.
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Chloe wrote:
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Sorry Apollo...

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I think we have a clear winner.



Credit to Thane for finding those frames.


Yup. Right. The face was supposed to be ugly because Apollo's face was being smashed. My second ugliest face is L'Belle's breakdown face. It is ugly in... well he looks like an ugly and creepy old man. But I think they took it too far on Apollo's face. Phoenix made an okay change from 2D to 3D sprites, and Apollo made a horrible change. His sprites look so awkward and hard to look at.

Also, if you remove the pupils in the first image, colorize it red and add proper lighting, it becomes nightmare-inducing creepy. Like this.

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This is ugly in a legendary type of way.


I think we have a winner folks.
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Everything about means was scary and ugly.


Especially when...

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he busted out that chalk board during court and fixed his hair.


I had to pause the game for a sec. T_T
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jrdngdwn wrote:
Yes, they have some anime designs, but compare that to Athena's animation. Hers is overly cartoony and unrealistic. The first games' expressions had more realism than if you saw Athena's face in the pictures shown before.

They hadn't "some" anime design, it was clearly anime for me.
Maybe they were more sober but we still had some very strange cases like :april: or :regina:. And hey, look at this one :
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It still wasn't realistic at all an very anime-oriented.
Sure they took a particular direction with Dual Destinies but I put that on the graphic improvement.
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Comparing the profile pics from DD with those from the other games it's clearly less realistic over all and has more of a classical anime look. The discrepancy between the looks of the characters is bigger in the other games though, some look extremely unnatural and others are more realistic, like Mike Meekins in relation to... Jack Hammer, for example. It's really a mix of art styles, while in DD they look more similar to each other. Shadings and the brightness of colours makes a bit of difference as well, as well as more or less smudgy contours.
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I'm actually a bit torn over this now. I don't think the designs themselves are that much more anime than in earlier games, but the animations and the gestures are definitely "weirder" this time around, like in the AAI games.

And I don't disagree that the first games were Anime too. I'm thinking it probably has more to do with the fact that anime has evolved since 2001. I remember there are a lot of anime from the 90's and all the way up to the early 2000s where if a character is a pilot for example, then he'd wear appropriate attire for that profession as part of his character design, but in a modern anime you often see them do surreal stuff instead where for instance, a pilot might be a girl in a casual dress or some crazy stuff. I think Athena is also very mascot-y and has that Moe appeal (but I'm not sure cuz I don't know a lot of anime terms :S)

But then again, try looking at the BTS designs for PLvsPWAA. The character designers clearly thought more "Practically" with their designs. Mahone or Espella for instance has a lot of thought put into the way she's dressed, as does most of the other characters in the game. In Dual Destinies we have a school teacher who's literally made to look like he has skin made out of stone and a student who wears... braces(WTF?) on his clothing...

..."AND THEY ALL HAVE VERY UGLY FACES!"

Nah, okay scratch that. I can't shoehorn that in, this is really off-topic, so sorry about that.
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@linkenski Yeah I get what you mean and I agree with you. The series' art has definitely become more anime-y and I kinda miss the original artwork, it was more realistic looking :sadshoe:
And also, don't get me wrong, Athena's great but...
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@linkenski Yeah I get what you mean and I agree with you. The series' art has definitely become more anime-y and I kinda miss the original artwork, it was more realistic looking :sadshoe:
And also, don't get me wrong, Athena's great but...
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DAT FACE. DE EYES.


...Oh... :meekins: Oh dear...
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LateSummer wrote:
@linkenski Yeah I get what you mean and I agree with you. The series' art has definitely become more anime-y and I kinda miss the original artwork, it was more realistic looking :sadshoe:
And also, don't get me wrong, Athena's great but...
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DAT FACE. DE EYES.


De lack of teefs.
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That white spot looks like a single tooth. Please tell me that's not a tooth...
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That white spot looks like a single tooth. Please tell me that's not a tooth...


I'm thinking it's maybe a flash of part of her bottom row of teeth, but I could be wrong. It looks so horribly awkward though.
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Probably. But it looks quite trollish.

...I love this thread.
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I don't think this was brought up, but..

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Bobby's face here doesn't do HIM justice. At least to me
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I think he looks cute there. Not in an attractive way, but like a little kid opening his gift at Christmas
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Yeah, I think that's adorable :edgey:
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I think he looks cute there. Not in an attractive way, but like a little kid opening his gift at Christmas


...Now I picture Bobby as a little kid, when he opened his present, THIS IS THE EXACT SAME FACE HE MADE
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Yeah, I think that's adorable :edgey:


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Wooh! I'm correct!
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Best starting frame for a sprite ever... XD

I saw this picture somewhere with Dual Destinies Apollo with Psyche-Locks, but someone cropped those Athena faces over the locks. I literally died of laughter... too bad I can't find the image.
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venser wrote:
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Best starting frame for a sprite ever... XD

I saw this picture somewhere with Dual Destinies Apollo with Psyche-Locks, but someone cropped those Athena faces over the locks. I literally died of laughter... too bad I can't find the image.


PfffHaha just picturing that in my head makes me laugh x'D I wish I could see it
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You wish has ben granted.

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Ohmygahhhh x'D you're amazing thaaaank yoooou :gant-clap:
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LateSummer wrote:
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You wish has ben granted.

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Ohmygahhhh x'D you're amazing thaaaank yoooou :gant-clap:


Nyyyyyyoooooooogghhh! That's some creepypasta style stuff right there xP
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...For some reason I'm now very, very scared.
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LateSummer wrote:
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You wish has ben granted.

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Ohmygahhhh x'D you're amazing thaaaank yoooou :gant-clap:


:haykitten:


Pierre Indeed. I'm getting a bit of "I have no mouth and I must scream"-vibes from it.
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GoingforMiles wrote:
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You wish has ben granted.

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Ohmygahhhh x'D you're amazing thaaaank yoooou :gant-clap:


:haykitten:


Pierre Indeed. I'm getting a bit of "I have no mouth and I must scream"-vibes from it.


You get that away from me.
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Shouldn't we focus on getting Apollo out first?
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GoingforMiles wrote:
Shouldn't we focus on getting Apollo out first?


He survived a bombing he'll be fine.
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Tss! What is a silly little bombing against that monstrosity?!
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Tss! What is a silly little bombing against that monstrosity?!


Nnnghh....you gotta point...
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Heh.. also on the topic of weird sprite frames, did this one bother anyone else?
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