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Author: | Ash [ Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:53 am ] |
Post subject: | DGS Names (puns, origins) (spoilers) |
A quick list of the name puns & origins. Of the names I know Takumi commented on, I also included that, otherwise, it's just conjecture. There are a couple I still don't know though. Spoiler: Main Characters Spoiler: Episode 1 Spoiler: Episode 2 Spoiler: Episode 3 Spoiler: Episode 4 Spoiler: Episode 5 |
Author: | Broocevelt [ Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:29 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: DGS Names (puns, origins) (spoilers) |
I'd say Nikomina Borschevic comes directly from the Bolsheviks, a rather obvious one. Other than that, thank you for the masterpost! It's really appreciated. |
Author: | Mayu Igiyooki [ Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:01 pm ] |
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Awesome! Now I'll be able to know what all the name puns mean and where! Like, Thanks alot for this masterpiece you made, Ash~ PS: I thought the blue-haired Prosecutor's name was "Baroque van Zeiks". |
Author: | NinjAngel [ Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: DGS Names (puns, origins) (spoilers) |
I actually remember an interview where 阿僧祇 was brought up as being an inspiration for Asougi's name--one of the larger ones, just before pre-release...Yeah, in the August issue of Nintendo Dream. Takumi says straight up that his name came from 阿僧祇. Beppo, meanwhile, is probably a light Sherlock reference--Beppo was the culprit (I believe?) in The Adventure of the Six Napoleons |
Author: | Ash [ Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: DGS Names (puns, origins) (spoilers) |
Updated the post with the comments above. I haven't read all interviews, so in case I've missed more from Takumi on the names, please comment. |
Author: | Bad Player [ Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: DGS Names (puns, origins) (spoilers) |
Awesome list, thanks Ash! Although I like to think of it as "Heart Vortex" |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: DGS Names (puns, origins) (spoilers) |
I was going to make a list of my own, but I like this one better, so I'm just gonna leech off of it. I actually went back and checked the names of the two pets from case 2. Spoiler: Oh, I just realized. Spoiler: 1-2 & DGS-2 parallels |
Author: | Ash [ Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: DGS Names (puns, origins) (spoilers) |
Added the pets and corrected some mistakes in the text (I had forgotten the cop's name was Patrick, and not just Pat!) Bad Player wrote: Although I like to think of it as "Heart Vortex" But he looks more like hurt than heart! (Also, now it's a neat little Doctor Who reference. Time!). |
Author: | Bad Player [ Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:11 pm ] |
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Ash wrote: Bad Player wrote: Although I like to think of it as "Heart Vortex" But he looks more like hurt than heart! (Also, now it's a neat little Doctor Who reference. Time!). Really? I think he's super hug-able (Just like a certain character from AA1 ) |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:31 pm ] |
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^ Could it perhaps be because he likes to stretch out his arms a lot like he's ready to accept hugs? All aboard the Gantex express. Choo-choo~ |
Author: | Bolt Storm [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: DGS Names (puns, origins) (spoilers) |
Fantastic work, Ash! I caught some of these, but others flew right over my head. (I'm particularly kicking myself over "Omari".) |
Author: | Ash [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:25 am ] |
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Added some location names / evidence (in the respective episodes). |
Author: | Ash [ Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:44 am ] |
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In one of those moments that suddenly hits you: Hurt Vortex -> hāto -> hato, "pigeon". |
Author: | Chekhov MacGuffin [ Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: DGS Names (puns, origins) (spoilers) |
I'm just throwing ideas around. It is possible that Vortex (ボーテックス) might invoke some expression involving 忙 (busy) like 忙殺 【bousatsu】, 忙中 【bouchuu】, 多忙 【tabou】, or 煩忙 【hanbou】? 棒 【ぼう】 (n) pole; rod; stick might be another starter idea since he has that mechanical cane If you spell out Vortex as dumbly as possible you get ボテツクス / ぼてつくす and the last 4 kana are pretty similar to てつくず (scrap iron) Maybe Vortex is "Bou-tetsukuzu": "Scrap iron rod" for the metal cane he carries around. So he becomes "Mr. Pigeon Scrap iron cane". Or maybe he just has his hand (手) in a box (ボックス). |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: DGS Names (puns, origins) (spoilers) |
His name is actually written as ヴォーテックス with emphasis on the initial "v", so it's definitely referring to the english word, rather than a particular Japanese pun. Besides, there are too many "bou"s to account for, and none of them really match up. I can only imagine it's some pun on the Japanese term for vortex: "kachuu", which when written differently can also refer to "nobility", or "kadou", again written differently becomes "operation of machinery". Though, the bit with the pigeons was for one second when we first stepped in that office. I guess it counts? Then again, what else could "hāto" come from? It certainly can't be from the way he wants a hug, right? :p Edit: Oh, wait... No, I forget. Did Vortex have a cuckoo clock in his office? |
Author: | Chekhov MacGuffin [ Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:48 pm ] |
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote: His name is actually written as ヴォーテックス with emphasis on the initial "v", so it's definitely referring to the english word, rather than a particular Japanese pun. Besides, there are too many "bou"s to account for, and none of them really match up. I just edited my post. Sorry. :P See "Mr. Pigeon Scrap-iron Cane" in the above post.I can only imagine it's some pun on the Japanese term for vortex: "kachuu", which when written differently can also refer to "nobility", or "kadou", again written differently becomes "operation of machinery". Though, the bit with the pigeons was for one second when we first stepped in that office. I guess it counts? Then again, what else could "hāto" come from? It certainly can't be from the way he wants a hug, right? :p Edited this post... And missed the reply below. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote: Edit: Oh, wait... No, I forget. Did Vortex have a cuckoo clock in his office? His whole office counts as a cuckoo clock.
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Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: DGS Names (puns, origins) (spoilers) |
That's a good one. He definitely has an emphasis on machinery... and time. Makes me wonder if one of his clocks in his office is actually a cuckoo clock. |
Author: | Chekhov MacGuffin [ Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: DGS Names (puns, origins) (spoilers) |
Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote: That's a good one. He definitely has an emphasis on machinery... and time. His whole office counts as a cuckoo clock.
Makes me wonder if one of his clocks in his office is actually a cuckoo clock. |
Author: | Ash [ Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: DGS Names (puns, origins) (spoilers) |
Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote: His name is actually written as ヴォーテックス with emphasis on the initial "v", so it's definitely referring to the english word, rather than a particular Japanese pun. (...) Though, the bit with the pigeons was for one second when we first stepped in that office. I guess it counts? Then again, what else could "hāto" come from? It certainly can't be from the way he wants a hug, right? :p It's ヴォルテックス, actually. And I'm pretty sure you see the pigeons flying in the background several times during the game, not just the first time. Oh, and I just realized this: a clock turns clockwise (duh). Just like a vortex (okay, sometimes counter-clockwise, but you get the idea). |
Author: | Chekhov MacGuffin [ Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: DGS Names (puns, origins) (spoilers) |
My savior WWWJDIC says Vortex is ボーテックス; ボルテックス. But that's the noun, not the guy's name. Ash wrote: It's ヴォルテックス, actually. And I'm pretty sure you see the pigeons flying in the background several times during the game, not just the first time. Everytime he spreads his arms out like he wants a hug pigeons go flying. It happens several times.Fleeing for their lives no doubt. Vortex's hugs are second only to Gant's swimming lessons. |
Author: | Ash [ Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: DGS Names (puns, origins) (spoilers) |
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: My savior WWWJDIC says Vortex is ボーテックス; ボルテックス. But that's the noun, not the guy's name. It's the most common way to write the English word vortex in katakana because it's easier to pronounce for most people, but certainly not the only correct one(s), because it's just an approximation of the English word. For example, 「ミステリー」、「ミステリ」 and 「ミステリィ」 are all viable ways to write the English word "mystery" in katakana. (the other way around, 「ハート」 can be written in alphabet as hāto, hato, haato, heart, hurt, hart amongst others). 「ヴォルテックス」 is linguistically much closer to the English word in terms of pronuncation, and you do see it used in Japanese. Nuri has commented that he used a vortex as a theme for the design (specifically, Vortex' hairdo), so I assume that's how Takumi presented this character/name to Nuri (i.e. simply vortex, and not some deeper Japanese play on words). In general, Takumi's puns are rather obvious in Japanese and he seldom goes for complex wordplay. |
Author: | Ash [ Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: DGS Names (puns, origins) (spoilers) |
Edited the list for the explanation of the name Susato, which Takumi recently revealed in this interview. The name is apparently simply a rearrangement of the family name of some guy he knew from university. So nothing big behind it. |
Author: | Ash [ Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: DGS Names (puns, origins) (spoilers) |
Added the official explanations for Hosonaga and Vortex. The latter was simply based on a disentanglement puzzle called Vortex Takumi was playing with at the time! |
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