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Author:  Bolt Storm [ Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:56 am ]
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This is a general discussion thread for AA6's downloadable episode, Turnabout Across Time! Please use spoiler tags when discussing any plot points of the episode that haven't been officially announced.

Note that this case will be available to download on June 30th. It will be free to download until July 20th, and be a paid download thereafter.

(Since the case takes place after the rest of the game, is this our first real "case six", filler or no...? :yogi:)

Author:  SuperAj3 [ Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:07 am ]
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I'd say Turnabout Reclaimed is our first case 6. Although DD wasn't linear in that regard it did have something to add to Nick's character development, getting his first case after getting his badge back and all.

Author:  Bad Player [ Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:59 am ]
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This is kind of more like
Spoiler: 6-5
case seven

Author:  Thunder84 [ Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:36 pm ]
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Bad Player wrote:
This is kind of more like
Spoiler: 6-5
case seven

Very true :yogi:

Author:  SuperAj3 [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:22 pm ]
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This link might die soon, but I found a livestream of the case. It's nearing its end though (as of posting Day 2 Trial has begun) Of course this means spoilers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bupNDruJoK4

Spoiler: From what I've seen, day 2 spoilers and image
Shizuku = Feenie
Raito = Dahlia

They have that sort of dynamic. But I don't think Raito is guilty.

There's also a character called 十文字(じゅうもんじ Juumonji)Who I'm totally calling "Jumanji" XD

Also, look at the poor thing :acro: Balling her eyes out
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Author:  Meowzy [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:30 pm ]
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Awwww, too bad I missed most of it. I'll check out the livestream from now on, though!

Author:  Ash [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:59 pm ]
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Finished it myself. I didn't think it was as strong a case like the AA5 DLC case, but hey, it was free! In terms of length, I have nothing to complain about, basically what you'd expect from a case 2/3.

Author:  SuperAj3 [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:09 pm ]
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Spoiler: last day spoilers
Can we just appreciate that Nick's hair comes out in his X-Ray?
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(I feel bad for the guy streaming, and trying to understand the posts, he's trying hard! I commend him! :edgey: )

Author:  Reglare [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:25 pm ]
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SuperAj3 wrote:
Spoiler: last day spoilers
Can we just appreciate that Nick's hair comes out in his X-Ray?
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(I feel bad for the guy streaming, and trying to understand the posts, he's trying hard! I commend him! :edgey: )

I'm commending him more for streaming even though it's almost 1 am in Japan now. Even the Dragon's Dogma Online stream I was watching had to stop since it's pretty late at night.

Author:  SuperAj3 [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:15 pm ]
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Yeah true, it went until 1am Japan time!
The ending was great!
Spoiler: ending
Happy ending! And Athena, Ema and Maya all chase after Larry angrily LOL

Author:  Upgrader01 [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:25 pm ]
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Spoiler:
"And everyone beat up Larry. The end." :larry:

Also, where the heck did those two go with a jetpack while INSIDE the lobby?

Author:  Meowzy [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:25 pm ]
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Spoiler:
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I can't believe the final boss died right there in court and nobody cared. (.....I'm kidding, he probably didn't)

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AAAAAAWWWW

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Ooh Larry ooh~

Author:  Kiva [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:31 pm ]
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SuperAj3 wrote:
Yeah true, it went until 1am Japan time!
The ending was great!
Spoiler: ending
Happy ending! And Athena, Ema and Maya all chase after Larry angrily LOL


Spoiler: ending
That's my Larry! So popular with ladies! I wish Franziska was there with them, her anger would be epic :ka-whip: .

Author:  X75 [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:20 pm ]
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Spoiler:
Question, who was the mystery character from AA/AAI that the courtroom skit for the DLC case was referring to? I'm pretty sure Larry was dis proven not to be that character.

Author:  Ash [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:27 pm ]
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X75 wrote:
Spoiler:
Question, who was the mystery character from AA/AAI that the courtroom skit for the DLC case was referring to? I'm pretty sure Larry was dis proven not to be that character.

Spoiler:
The letters did point to Larry: but that was because Larry himself wrote those letters, in the belief he was the character who was going to be married

Author:  chariset [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:29 pm ]
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Bolt, do you have any plans to livestream this one?

Author:  FenrirDarkWolf [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:30 pm ]
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I'll be back here later with a bunch of questions and stuff so I can start shoving it in the wiki like I did for Turnabout Theatre and Turnabout Revolution.
But first, case art?

Author:  Meowzy [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:31 pm ]
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Ash wrote:
X75 wrote:
Spoiler:
Question, who was the mystery character from AA/AAI that the courtroom skit for the DLC case was referring to? I'm pretty sure Larry was dis proven not to be that character.

Spoiler:
The letters did point to Larry: but that was because Larry himself wrote those letters, in the belief he was the character who was going to be married

Spoiler:
He did catch the bouquet in the end, so who knows? Maybe he WILL get married next.

Author:  Blizdi [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:32 pm ]
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The ending was the dig as shippers we needed, but not the one we deserve right now.

Author:  X75 [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:35 pm ]
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Ash wrote:
X75 wrote:
Spoiler:
Question, who was the mystery character from AA/AAI that the courtroom skit for the DLC case was referring to? I'm pretty sure Larry was dis proven not to be that character.

Spoiler:
The letters did point to Larry: but that was because Larry himself wrote those letters, in the belief he was the character who was going to be married


Spoiler:
Damn, I was really hoping to see Maggey or Franziska return.

Author:  FenrirDarkWolf [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:43 pm ]
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By the by, where's Trucy?
I'm skipping through the video and haven't seen her yet.


lol, nvm
If I just wait a second, there she issss <3

So, who's who?
Image assuming this is Raito the husband
Image Jūmonji
Image but who are you
and who is the victim?

Author:  Ash [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:47 pm ]
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FenrirDarkWolf wrote:
By the by, where's Trucy?
I'm skipping through the video and haven't seen her yet.

Spoiler:
She appears 'between acts' with Athena, with Athena constantly trying to escape from Trucy (Athena is being forced to do new (dangerous) magic tricks with Trucy)

Author:  chariset [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:50 pm ]
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Ash wrote:
Spoiler:
She appears 'between acts' with Athena, with Athena constantly trying to escape from Trucy (Athena is being forced to do new (dangerous) magic tricks with Trucy)


Don't tell me this is ANOTHER
Spoiler:
"take my case or I'll kill my hostage" deal?!?

Author:  Ash [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:54 pm ]
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chariset wrote:
Don't tell me this is ANOTHER
Spoiler:
"take my case or I'll kill my hostage" deal?!?

Nope, just to free up space for Nick's assistant.

Author:  Ash [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:59 pm ]
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FenrirDarkWolf wrote:
but who are you and who is the victim?

Spoiler:
The woman is Hikari, the deceased sister of Raito. The victim is Seiji Yonekura. (For all the names/new characters, see the name origins topic)

Author:  FenrirDarkWolf [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:37 pm ]
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So what exactly happens during the case?

Author:  Ash [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:18 pm ]
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The super-condensed version:

Spoiler:
A body is discovered after the wedding reception. Shizuku, bride of Raito Haguruma, is suspected. She claims to have traveled in time, because she remembers being attacked by the victim (like her, a servant of the Haguruma family) after the reception, and then having experienced the reception again. In the first trial day, it is revealed that there had in been in fact two receptions. Apparently, Raito and his butler Jumonji had found Shizuku with the dead victim (after the first reception), and they decided to hide the body and make it seem like Shizuku had gone back in time (so she wouldn't know/believe she had commited a crime). That the body was eventually discovered, was because of Larry's meddling.

On the second trial day, you find out that Raito has a memory disorder: he doesn't remember anything beyond the day he had a traffic accident which killed her sister Hikari (it was said the victim had been the driver at the time). Raito has to write everything done in a memo to 'remember' anything. Phoenix finds out that someone has tampered with Raito's note, and also that it had been in fact Raito who caused the traffic accident (the victim had been made a scapegoat). In the end, it is revealed the butler Jumonji is the murderer. He had been the fiance of Hikari and also the surgeon on duty when Raito and Hikari were brought in after the accident. Hikari had asked Jumonji to save her brother, but she died. Jumonji wanted revenge, as did the victim (for being made a scapegoat), so they had planned to kill Shizuku to get revenge on Raito. The attack by the victim was countered by Raito, and initially, Raito thought he had killed the victim. His plan failed, Jumonji played along with Raito with his plan to conceal the body in the sculpture to buy some time. However, the victim had not been dead yet. During the second reception, the victim got out of the sculpture, and Jumonji killed him then for real with the time machine clock (and then made it seem like Shizuku had been the murderer, by erasing Raito's "memory" of having hit the victim first).

Author:  chariset [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:00 pm ]
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Ash wrote:
The super-condensed version


That's insane...

Any good Edgeworth lines/moments?

Author:  FenrirDarkWolf [ Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:34 pm ]
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It seems like a lot of people in this game also have...
Spoiler:
memory issues.

Author:  Meowzy [ Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:41 am ]
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Speaking of which:

Spoiler:
What was the deal with Datz having memory issues at the start of case 3? That was just an act, right? Or did he seriously have amnesia for some reason?

Author:  Thunder84 [ Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:31 am ]
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Meowzy wrote:
Speaking of which:

Spoiler: Case 3
What was the deal with Datz having memory issues at the start of case 3? That was just an act, right? Or did he seriously have amnesia for some reason?


Spoiler: Case 3
Just an act.

Author:  FenrirDarkWolf [ Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:04 am ]
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Spoiler:
Lets see...
(I don't know about Case 1 or Case 2, although it seems like, at first in 2, that Trucy forgot to do the spin.)
In Case 3, Datz pretended to have memory issues.
In Case 4, Biffu's fourth personality doesn't share memories with his others.
In Case 5, Inga has prosopagnosia.
In DLC Case, Raito cannot remember anything from after the accident.

As such... is the only way Raito remember his love for Ootusubu is because he wrote it down? Or were they together prior to the accident?


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When both the DLC case arts are Phoenix pointing.
This case also has this strange... clock/gearpunk aesthetic to it to me.

Author:  CourtroomShenanigans [ Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:14 am ]
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Spoiler:
So Raito suffers from severe post-traumatic anterograde amnesia, then?

Author:  Ash [ Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:15 am ]
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FenrirDarkWolf wrote:
Lets see...
Spoiler:
(I don't know about Case 1 or Case 2, although it seems like, at first in 2, that Trucy forgot to do the spin.)

Spoiler: Case 2
I don't remember all the details of that part, but IIRC, Trucy did do the spin, but it had been edited out of the film footage to make it seem she hadn't switched the blades.

Author:  SuperAj3 [ Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:19 am ]
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Spoiler:
Aww, poor Raito has anterograde amnesia!? No wonder he looked so lost without his notebook!

Author:  knight210 [ Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:22 am ]
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Blizdi wrote:
The ending was the dig as shippers we needed, but not the one we deserve right now.

How much Maya is in this DLC case? Is there any Nick/Maya shipping in it?
They didn't ship her much in the main story so I guess/hope at least they put some in this extra case.

Author:  Ash [ Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:53 am ]
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knight210 wrote:
How much Maya is in this DLC case?

She joins Phoenix pretty much at the very start of the story, and remains your assistant all the way until the end.

Author:  Meowzy [ Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:41 am ]
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knight210 wrote:
Blizdi wrote:
The ending was the dig as shippers we needed, but not the one we deserve right now.

How much Maya is in this DLC case? Is there any Nick/Maya shipping in it?
They didn't ship her much in the main story so I guess/hope at least they put some in this extra case.

Unpopular opinion: I actually love how few 'canon' ships there are in the game series, because it leaves things open to interpretation. I personally hope they never solidify any kind of ship for the main characters.

More related to the topic at hand,
Spoiler:
that's also why I'm glad Larry caught the bouquet instead of one of the girls. Larry doesn't have a girlfriend and has the worst luck with that sort of thing, so him catching the bouquet meant nothing. :')

Author:  Ash [ Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:20 pm ]
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Don't know about shippings, but Phoenix, Maya and the judge were pretty merciless with their jokes about the topic of Edgeworth & marriage throughout the case.

(And there were a lot of references made by the judge about his wife, now I think about it...)

Author:  simon8685 [ Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:04 pm ]
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FenrirDarkWolf wrote:
Image Jūmonji


Jumanji? Nope, the bride isn't the time traveler. It's definitely this guy. (girl?)

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