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This thread will contain spoilers for the whole game!
Just like in that thread, I think it's good to keep the same format, if possible.
Name: (To give the cough-up a title)
Type of cough-up: (Misspelling, inconsistency, impossible situations, alternate case solving, etc.)
Location: (What chapter, who, what, where?)
Description: (What is the matter with it?)
This thread came to mind when Southern Corn brought forth a cough-up in a different thread, so I figured I should make this thread. So, why don't I start with that one? Credit to Southern Corn, of course.
Name: Teleporting Datz
Type of cough-up: Impossible situation
Location: Chapter 6-5
Description:
Datz is still in Japanifornia during the civil trial at 1 PM, yet in the trial after that, we discover that Datz was also at the Khura'in bazaar at 2 PM throwing firecrackers, despite all the main characters just barely reaching Khura'in by 2:45 PM by private jet. This seems only possible if Datz can teleport.
Of course, if you see a fault in a cough-up, feel free to discuss it!
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Nurio wrote:
Name: Teleporting Datz
Type of cough-up: Impossible situation
Location: Chapter 6-5
Description:
Datz is still in Japanifornia during the civil trial at 1 PM, yet in the trial after that, we discover that Datz was also at the Khura'in bazaar at 2 PM throwing firecrackers, despite all the main characters just barely reaching Khura'in by 2:45 PM by private jet. This seems only possible if Datz can teleport.
Type of cough-up: Impossible situation
Location: Chapter 6-5
Description:
Datz is still in Japanifornia during the civil trial at 1 PM, yet in the trial after that, we discover that Datz was also at the Khura'in bazaar at 2 PM throwing firecrackers, despite all the main characters just barely reaching Khura'in by 2:45 PM by private jet. This seems only possible if Datz can teleport.
Not sure if they changed this in the localized version, but I remember that in the original text, the whole deal in Kurain is set the day AFTER the civil trial; Inga specifically says their deal is to be tomorrow at 15:00. That's why it's called the Second Day in the menu.
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Ash wrote:
Nurio wrote:
Name: Teleporting Datz
Type of cough-up: Impossible situation
Location: Chapter 6-5
Description:
Datz is still in Japanifornia during the civil trial at 1 PM, yet in the trial after that, we discover that Datz was also at the Khura'in bazaar at 2 PM throwing firecrackers, despite all the main characters just barely reaching Khura'in by 2:45 PM by private jet. This seems only possible if Datz can teleport.
Type of cough-up: Impossible situation
Location: Chapter 6-5
Description:
Datz is still in Japanifornia during the civil trial at 1 PM, yet in the trial after that, we discover that Datz was also at the Khura'in bazaar at 2 PM throwing firecrackers, despite all the main characters just barely reaching Khura'in by 2:45 PM by private jet. This seems only possible if Datz can teleport.
Not sure if they changed this in the localized version, but I remember that in the original text, the whole deal in Kurain is set the day AFTER the civil trial; Inga specifically says their deal is to be tomorrow at 15:00. That's why it's called the Second Day in the menu.
That's fair,but the MCs take a whole day to get there,and they chartered a private jet,so how did Datz get there faster than them?
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Going for Miles wrote:
Besides, who's to say he can't teleport?
Then he could have just teleported in the palace,kill the royals,and Khura'in would be free. Also,he could have just teleported to the rebel base when he was arrested and case 3 wouldn't have happened.
Unless he didn't teleport intentionally to have the abott killed!
I think I just realised who the bad guy of this game is.
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Southern Corn wrote:
That's fair,but the MCs take a whole day to get there,and they chartered a private jet,so how did Datz get there faster than them?
He didn't go to the same place as the main cast / he is an Kurain national (it takes AGES in some countries to get in) / maybe he had transport for one ready at the airport. And chartering a plane does not definitely mean you'd be faster in Kurain: if he managed to get a last-minute ticket for a line flight scheduled earlier than Edgeworth's plane (you do need to plan a flight in advance...), he'd still arrive earlier.
There are tons of likely reasons that would have him arrive +/- one hour in town earlier than the main group at the palace.
SuperAj3 wrote:
Could you say (Plot spoilers)
Spoiler: Case 5
Spoiler:
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@SuperAj3 I mean at that time he could've been either 14 or 15 since we don't know his birthday...so I guess he has to be 14!
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Name: Blind Audience,etc.
Type:Impossible Occurence
Case:2
Desc: Polly claims that Mistree was pulled up after the dragon set fell into the blade. In this case,how did the audience miss this? And no,the explanation that they were distracted does not suffice. At least one of them should've seen them. And what about Trucy,Bonny,and the creepy cameraman backstage? Did they not see Mistree hit the blade? How did he not make any noise when he was stabbed? The backstage crew would've noticed. And how did he fall back down without anyone noticing?
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Southern Corn wrote:
I've got one.
Name: Blind Audience,etc.
Type:Impossible Occurence
Case:2
Desc: Polly claims that Mistree was pulled up after the dragon set fell into the blade. In this case,how did the audience miss this? And no,the explanation that they were distracted does not suffice. At least one of them should've seen them. And what about Trucy,Bonny,and the creepy cameraman backstage? Did they not see Mistree hit the blade? How did he not make any noise when he was stabbed? The backstage crew would've noticed. And how did he fall back down without anyone noticing?
Name: Blind Audience,etc.
Type:Impossible Occurence
Case:2
Desc: Polly claims that Mistree was pulled up after the dragon set fell into the blade. In this case,how did the audience miss this? And no,the explanation that they were distracted does not suffice. At least one of them should've seen them. And what about Trucy,Bonny,and the creepy cameraman backstage? Did they not see Mistree hit the blade? How did he not make any noise when he was stabbed? The backstage crew would've noticed. And how did he fall back down without anyone noticing?
I did think it was strange we could only see the shadow of Manov, but not Manov himself being pulled up. Same goes for Mr. Hat, really... So in a meta sense, I knew that the game figured it possible since it was already proven to be possible with Mr. Hat.
Also, since the set was used for switching magic, the pulleys are set up in such a way they can pull hard and fast. Taking that into consideration, the blade also would've pierced Manov quickly, killing him instantly, giving him little time to cry out. I also imagine the crew didn't stay backstage, but rather went back to their dressing rooms. That would give Retinz the opportunity to simply lower Manov and set the scene
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SuperAj3 wrote:
Could you say (Plot spoilers)
Spoiler: Case 5
Nope, that's not a cough-up because.
Spoiler: 6-5
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Name: Self-incriminating evidence
Type of cough-up: Killer derp
Location: 6-4
Description:
When Geiro killed her master, she arranged the cards to spell out "OWEN 4TH" to incriminate Owen. But that's really strange... She should know that Owen, a scared frail little boy, wouldn't be capable of murder, so why incriminate him of all 4 characters? It also wouldn't make sense, because the police doesn't know about Owen, so there's no reason to suspect that message held any significance. In fact, by planting the message, Geiro only dug her own grave, because the moment it's clear the cards were planted there, the list of suspects becomes... 1. Only Geiro would be a possible suspect, because the others either don't know about Owen, wouldn't self-incriminate (and couldn't due to an unshared memory bank) or are deceased. It's probably one of the dumbest things for a killer to do.
Of course, from a meta perspective, Geiro did this so that the player would know about an Owen so we could investigate and eventually find out about Uendo's split personalities. But that's just bad writing, to let characters do dumb and illogical things for the sake of the plot
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luck wrote:
I think Geiru wanted Uendo to think Owen did it, since he doesn't know him (and actually, she succeded at that). I think only her and Toneido knew the truth about Owen. And once you know about Uendo's disorder the message makes sense. Also, she did it in the spur of the moment, so it makes sense that she wasn't thinking straigh.
So, it was to fool Uendo, not the police? That seems a bit strange... You'd want the police to think a certain someone did it, not Uendo.
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Nurio wrote:
Southern Corn wrote:
I've got one.
Name: Blind Audience,etc.
Type:Impossible Occurence
Case:2
Desc: Polly claims that Mistree was pulled up after the dragon set fell into the blade. In this case,how did the audience miss this? And no,the explanation that they were distracted does not suffice. At least one of them should've seen them. And what about Trucy,Bonny,and the creepy cameraman backstage? Did they not see Mistree hit the blade? How did he not make any noise when he was stabbed? The backstage crew would've noticed. And how did he fall back down without anyone noticing?
Name: Blind Audience,etc.
Type:Impossible Occurence
Case:2
Desc: Polly claims that Mistree was pulled up after the dragon set fell into the blade. In this case,how did the audience miss this? And no,the explanation that they were distracted does not suffice. At least one of them should've seen them. And what about Trucy,Bonny,and the creepy cameraman backstage? Did they not see Mistree hit the blade? How did he not make any noise when he was stabbed? The backstage crew would've noticed. And how did he fall back down without anyone noticing?
I did think it was strange we could only see the shadow of Manov, but not Manov himself being pulled up. Same goes for Mr. Hat, really... So in a meta sense, I knew that the game figured it possible since it was already proven to be possible with Mr. Hat.
Also, since the set was used for switching magic, the pulleys are set up in such a way they can pull hard and fast. Taking that into consideration, the blade also would've pierced Manov quickly, killing him instantly, giving him little time to cry out. I also imagine the crew didn't stay backstage, but rather went back to their dressing rooms. That would give Retinz the opportunity to simply lower Manov and set the scene
What makes you think the crew wasn't there? Then who pulled Manov up?
Also,Retinz shouldn't have been able to tamper with anything anyway. Where were the police during this anyway? And I thought he said they didn't allow him in?
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Southern Corn wrote:
What makes you think the crew wasn't there? Then who pulled Manov up?
Huh? That was a key point in the case. Manov was pulled up remotely (through a remote control) by Retinz.
Southern Corn wrote:
Also,Retinz shouldn't have been able to tamper with anything anyway. Where were the police during this anyway? And I thought he said they didn't allow him in?
When he said they didn't allow him in, I think he already had done his business and was acting innocent.
As for how he got in in the first place, I'm not sure. I guess he was there before the police were?
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Nurio wrote:
Southern Corn wrote:
What makes you think the crew wasn't there? Then who pulled Manov up?
Huh? That was a key point in the case. Manov was pulled up remotely (through a remote control) by Retinz.
Actually, I think you're both wrong. Mistree was attached to the dragón so he was pulled up when Betty lowered it. That was part of the prank. The only unscripted thing was the sword that skewered the victim.
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Southern Corn wrote:
Lol thanks. I never thought I'd be credited for a post :P
Not sure if they changed this in the localized version, but I remember that in the original text, the whole deal in Kurain is set the day AFTER the civil trial; Inga specifically says their deal is to be tomorrow at 15:00. That's why it's called the Second Day in the menu.
That's fair,but the MCs take a whole day to get there,and they chartered a private jet,so how did Datz get there faster than them?
He hid in someone else's suitcase didn't he
Ash wrote:
Nurio wrote:
Name: Teleporting Datz
Type of cough-up: Impossible situation
Location: Chapter 6-5
Description:
Datz is still in Japanifornia during the civil trial at 1 PM, yet in the trial after that, we discover that Datz was also at the Khura'in bazaar at 2 PM throwing firecrackers, despite all the main characters just barely reaching Khura'in by 2:45 PM by private jet. This seems only possible if Datz can teleport.
Type of cough-up: Impossible situation
Location: Chapter 6-5
Description:
Datz is still in Japanifornia during the civil trial at 1 PM, yet in the trial after that, we discover that Datz was also at the Khura'in bazaar at 2 PM throwing firecrackers, despite all the main characters just barely reaching Khura'in by 2:45 PM by private jet. This seems only possible if Datz can teleport.
Not sure if they changed this in the localized version, but I remember that in the original text, the whole deal in Kurain is set the day AFTER the civil trial; Inga specifically says their deal is to be tomorrow at 15:00. That's why it's called the Second Day in the menu.
That's fair,but the MCs take a whole day to get there,and they chartered a private jet,so how did Datz get there faster than them?
He stowed away...
Plus he's a paratrooper..
He didn't wait for the plain to land and just jumped out with a parachute above the Bazaar
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luck wrote:
Nurio wrote:
Southern Corn wrote:
What makes you think the crew wasn't there? Then who pulled Manov up?
Huh? That was a key point in the case. Manov was pulled up remotely (through a remote control) by Retinz.
Actually, I think you're both wrong. Mistree was attached to the dragón so he was pulled up when Betty lowered it. That was part of the prank. The only unscripted thing was the sword that skewered the victim.
Hmm, are you quite sure? I thought he was hooked up to the same line as Mr. Hat (after Mr. Hat was pulled up and his line was lowered again for Manov). I don't think the system even works with a counterweight like you suggest
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Nurio wrote:
dragón...?
Hmm, are you quite sure? I thought he was hooked up to the same line as Mr. Hat (after Mr. Hat was pulled up and his line was lowered again for Manov). I don't think the system even works with a counterweight like you suggest
Hmm, are you quite sure? I thought he was hooked up to the same line as Mr. Hat (after Mr. Hat was pulled up and his line was lowered again for Manov). I don't think the system even works with a counterweight like you suggest
Oh no,I see it now. Manov and the dragon were tied to the same rope,so Betty probably loosened the ropes holding the dragon,and then when the dragon fell,the force sent him up into the sword. I don't really remember anything about your 'remote control' in the game though....
Retinz still confuses me though....
Also shouldn't you add all this to the OP?
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Pierre wrote:
Haha I've got it. A plothole to break the game!
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Spoiler:
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Nurio wrote:
Oh right! I forgot about this one...
Name: Self-incriminating evidence
Type of cough-up: Killer derp
Location: 6-4
Description:
When Geiro killed her master, she arranged the cards to spell out "OWEN 4TH" to incriminate Owen. But that's really strange... She should know that Owen, a scared frail little boy, wouldn't be capable of murder, so why incriminate him of all 4 characters? It also wouldn't make sense, because the police doesn't know about Owen, so there's no reason to suspect that message held any significance. In fact, by planting the message, Geiro only dug her own grave, because the moment it's clear the cards were planted there, the list of suspects becomes... 1. Only Geiro would be a possible suspect, because the others either don't know about Owen, wouldn't self-incriminate (and couldn't due to an unshared memory bank) or are deceased. It's probably one of the dumbest things for a killer to do.
Of course, from a meta perspective, Geiro did this so that the player would know about an Owen so we could investigate and eventually find out about Uendo's split personalities. But that's just bad writing, to let characters do dumb and illogical things for the sake of the plot
Name: Self-incriminating evidence
Type of cough-up: Killer derp
Location: 6-4
Description:
When Geiro killed her master, she arranged the cards to spell out "OWEN 4TH" to incriminate Owen. But that's really strange... She should know that Owen, a scared frail little boy, wouldn't be capable of murder, so why incriminate him of all 4 characters? It also wouldn't make sense, because the police doesn't know about Owen, so there's no reason to suspect that message held any significance. In fact, by planting the message, Geiro only dug her own grave, because the moment it's clear the cards were planted there, the list of suspects becomes... 1. Only Geiro would be a possible suspect, because the others either don't know about Owen, wouldn't self-incriminate (and couldn't due to an unshared memory bank) or are deceased. It's probably one of the dumbest things for a killer to do.
Of course, from a meta perspective, Geiro did this so that the player would know about an Owen so we could investigate and eventually find out about Uendo's split personalities. But that's just bad writing, to let characters do dumb and illogical things for the sake of the plot
Eh, given the Ace Attorney world's history of charging people with things they couldn't possibly have done (hi Machi Tobaye), it probably wasn't that bad of an idea. =p
In all seriousness, I don't think it was as crazy of an idea as it seems in retrospect. While it became fairly obvious to the court when Owen was actually "drawn out," it's worth keeping in mind that the reason Uendo switched the cards was because he was genuinely afraid that Owen might have committed the crime. In other words, Uendo himself wasn't fully aware of Owen's capabilities. The only people that were aware that Owen existed, let alone the fact that he was a five year old, were Geiru and the victim, Taifu. This means that Geiru could pin the crime on Owen, and due to a lack of shared memory, make Uendo seriously think Owen had committed the crime with no one to tell him that Owen couldn't.
All it would take would be some digging into Uendo's medical background to find his disorder, and he would be suspected. And since Uendo wasn't aware that Owen wasn't incapable of murder, he would probably try to hide Owen's existence rather than draw him out (which, in a way, he did). If Uendo never suggested how to draw Owen out, he likely never would have surfaced, keeping the suspicion squarely on Uendo. If memory serves, it took quite a bit of creative thinking from Athena in court before she suggested that alcohol was a factor. Considering how lax investigations in the Ace Attorney world are at times, I don't think it's all that far fetched.
Meanwhile, I'll throw out something that's not really a plothole, but has bugged me all the same...
Spoiler: 6-5
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Ash wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Haha I've got it. A plothole to break the game!
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Nngh that's so clever. The prosecution didn't even bring that up as a defence but it feels like that item was placed there solely to explain this in hindsight.
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Pierre wrote:
Ash wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Haha I've got it. A plothole to break the game!
Spoiler: BIG Case 5 Spoilers
Spoiler:
Nngh that's so clever. The prosecution didn't even bring that up as a defence but it feels like that item was placed there solely to explain this in hindsight.
Actually, the developers noted they left things for the players to notice on a second playthrough. This was one of those things.
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Southern Corn wrote:
Nurio wrote:
dragón...?
Hmm, are you quite sure? I thought he was hooked up to the same line as Mr. Hat (after Mr. Hat was pulled up and his line was lowered again for Manov). I don't think the system even works with a counterweight like you suggest
Hmm, are you quite sure? I thought he was hooked up to the same line as Mr. Hat (after Mr. Hat was pulled up and his line was lowered again for Manov). I don't think the system even works with a counterweight like you suggest
Oh no,I see it now. Manov and the dragon were tied to the same rope,so Betty probably loosened the ropes holding the dragon,and then when the dragon fell,the force sent him up into the sword. I don't really remember anything about your 'remote control' in the game though....
Retinz still confuses me though....
Also shouldn't you add all this to the OP?
You have to take into account that the guys that kicked everyone out at first weren't the police, but the theater staff. It's likely that they let Retinz in without asking many questions, since he's the boss and all.
It's still weird that nobody apparently looked up at any moment whatsoever, though. That bothered me as well.
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JGLP wrote:
SuperAj3 wrote:
Could you say (Plot spoilers)
Spoiler: Case 5
Nope, that's not a cough-up because.
Spoiler: 6-5
The Japanese version of the AA5 artbook says that Apollo and Clay were 13 when they met.
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Name: Inga's Psychic Phone.
Type of cough-up: Inconsistency.
Location: Case 5, Amara's Tomb.
Description:
Spoiler: Case 5 Spoils
Name: Inga (Again) What..
Type of cough-up: Illogical actions.
Location: Case 5, Amara's Tomb (Again)
Description:
Spoiler: More Case 5 Spoilers
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So I've got two. Excuse the incoming text wall...
Name: Inga's Psychic Phone.
Type of cough-up: Inconsistency.
Location: Case 5, Amara's Tomb.
Description:
Name: Inga (Again) What..
Type of cough-up: Illogical actions.
Location: Case 5, Amara's Tomb (Again)
Description:
Name: Inga's Psychic Phone.
Type of cough-up: Inconsistency.
Location: Case 5, Amara's Tomb.
Description:
Spoiler: Case 5 Spoils
Name: Inga (Again) What..
Type of cough-up: Illogical actions.
Location: Case 5, Amara's Tomb (Again)
Description:
Spoiler: More Case 5 Spoilers
I'm more inclined to believe that the Water Mirror doesn't show every single thing a victim notices around them, as it would clutter the interface. This may be less of an inconsistency than being purposely planned.
As for the other one,
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
He never fired off a bullet in that WM sequence, so we can't know for sure whether or not he did or didn't reload his gun. Either way, he pointed it at his adversary in his dying moments, so it'd be safe to assume he did.
Well, Ema does say the pistol is empty when you investigate. And I doubt Ga'ran would unload his gun and take the bullets with her as she had zero reason for that
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Misokrattz wrote:
Name: Inga's Psychic Phone.
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Type of cough-up: Inconsistency.
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I dont exactly get how what you said points out an inconsistency.
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Nurio wrote:
Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
He never fired off a bullet in that WM sequence, so we can't know for sure whether or not he did or didn't reload his gun. Either way, he pointed it at his adversary in his dying moments, so it'd be safe to assume he did.
Well, Ema does say the pistol is empty when you investigate. And I doubt Ga'ran would unload his gun and take the bullets with her as she had zero reason for that
Don't forget that Dhurke wasn't supposed to arrive until an hour later. Inga seems so relaxed because he really was caught by surprise. He propably pulled his gun as a reflex.
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Nurio wrote:
Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
He never fired off a bullet in that WM sequence, so we can't know for sure whether or not he did or didn't reload his gun. Either way, he pointed it at his adversary in his dying moments, so it'd be safe to assume he did.
Well, Ema does say the pistol is empty when you investigate. And I doubt Ga'ran would unload his gun and take the bullets with her as she had zero reason for that
^ That exactly. I know he didn't actually shoot the gun, but Ema said the pistol was empty after when you investigate it, and it's just like.. why would he bring an empty gun?
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I agree it would technically be possible for it to be in his right hand, and fall to his left, however, then we would see it cross his vision in the Seance as he fell if that were the case wouldn't' we? The phone is so close to his face.
And it just seems unlikely considering how the crime photo was drawn. If the phone were to be in his right hand, they would just draw the phone on the ground on his right. And what you said about the victims filters things out, that's actually a really neat suggestion and it makes a lot of sense!
Like how in the vision he doesn't feel his clothes touching his skin, but that would only work for minor things. I doubt one of his lackeys calling him and reporting suspicious behaviour he spotted wouldn't take his attention.
It's probably as Rubia said where it was a developers choice to not clutter the screen with so much Hubbub, but it still is a bit odd to me.
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Misokrattz wrote:
I agree it would technically be possible for it to be in his right hand, and fall to his left, however, then we would see it cross his vision in the Seance as he fell if that were the case wouldn't' we? The phone is so close to his face. And it just seems unlikely considering how the crime photo was drawn. If the phone were to be in his right hand, they would just draw the phone on the ground on his right.
And what you said about the victims filters things out, that's actually a really neat suggestion and it makes a lot of sense!
Like how in the vision he doesn't feel his clothes touching his skin, but that would only work for minor things. I doubt one of his lackeys calling him and reporting suspicious behaviour he spotted wouldn't take his attention.
It's probably as Rubia said where it was a developers choice to not clutter the screen with so much Hubbub, but it still is a bit odd to me.
And it just seems unlikely considering how the crime photo was drawn. If the phone were to be in his right hand, they would just draw the phone on the ground on his right. And what you said about the victims filters things out, that's actually a really neat suggestion and it makes a lot of sense!
Like how in the vision he doesn't feel his clothes touching his skin, but that would only work for minor things. I doubt one of his lackeys calling him and reporting suspicious behaviour he spotted wouldn't take his attention.
It's probably as Rubia said where it was a developers choice to not clutter the screen with so much Hubbub, but it still is a bit odd to me.
However, there IS one situation where we wouldn't see the phone cross his vision. This one situation existed the whole time, actually.
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NinjaMonkey wrote:
Type of cough-up: Inconsistency
Location: 4-4, 6-5
Description: In 4-4, Spark Brushel says that Apollo's father was killed on stage in an accident, but in 6-5 we learn that he was killed in the assassination attempt of Amara at her palace.
Location: 4-4, 6-5
Description: In 4-4, Spark Brushel says that Apollo's father was killed on stage in an accident, but in 6-5 we learn that he was killed in the assassination attempt of Amara at her palace.
I wouldn't say that's much of an inconsistency as it is how news gets warped when it travels, especially with someone as elusive as Jove (seeing how it took Dhurke a long time to get any info on him).
Jove was performing for the royal couple, so that can easily be seen as "on stage", and a fire is quickly seen as an accident, especially since no one got convicted for arson
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Nurio wrote:
and a fire is quickly seen as an accident, especially since no one got convicted for arson
Except the fire was seen as an assassination attempt, seeing as that was one of the charges that Dhurke was accused of.
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NinjaMonkey wrote:
Nurio wrote:
and a fire is quickly seen as an accident, especially since no one got convicted for arson
Except the fire was seen as an assassination attempt, seeing as that was one of the charges that Dhurke was accused of.
Ah but remember Dhurke beat the charges of Assassination. It was only trumped up charges of fabricated evidence that drove him into hiding.
In the absence of any definitive verdict it could have appeared as an accident in international news.
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So there was no reason for Spark Brushel to know the truth about this.
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