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WG: Ohh, that's so sweet. Good, friendly Timmari.

Yes, oh, he's such a nice guy! :will: He strikes me as one of those people that's really easy to like, even if one hasn't talked to him much.
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Oh, oh, I've got a dirty ice-cream joke:
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What's a perfect evening for Timmari?
A B&J and a bj.

Oh, hahaha! I have to say, that one was really good!
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(Too bad Timmari wasn't there with an ice-lolly to press against the swollen eye)

Aww...
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Overlapping maps... reminds me of another game.

And me of a puzzle.
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This wasn't a quote-edit.

I did it on purpose to be a rebel.

Totes.

Just kidding.
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I'm pretty sure Drunkworth isn't Drugworth at least Rubia

I only remember the ending of today's dream. We were in a grocery store with a relative and Viola of all people. I remember there was an air conditioner behind the ice cream door and we had to take it off to get all the ice cream. It was good and I was sad to wake up just to realise there's no ice cream in the fridge
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Dang. Timmari does not approve of the lack of ice cream.

Apollo and Polecat in a house, doing something. Like looking around. Apollo, I think this Anthony boy is a sneaky influence on you. Maybe Polecat is into urban exploration of abandoned buildings and stuff?
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I want that creepypasta written soon. Thanks
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I'm pretty sure Drunkworth isn't Drugworth at least Rubia

I'm not sure how I missed "Drugworth" and read it as "Drunkworth isn't at least Rubia" and I nodded. Yes, he and I are very different. But what would it mean to say someone isn't "at least" me? Am I really so inferior to him? I know he's the Messiah and all, but I being his daughter has to count for something, I think.

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I only remember the ending of today's dream. We were in a grocery store with a relative and Viola of all people. I remember there was an air conditioner behind the ice cream door and we had to take it off to get all the ice cream. It was good and I was sad to wake up just to realise there's no ice cream in the fridge

If you see Timmari, I'm sure he'll be happy to share.

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Apollo and Polecat in a house, doing something. Like looking around. Apollo, I think this Anthony boy is a sneaky influence on you. Maybe Polecat is into urban exploration of abandoned buildings and stuff?

Sounds like he's becoming true to his name too, "Polecat".


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I think I get why Apollo started calling him Polecat. Polecats feel like a sneaky kind of animal.

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I stayed up late doing homework instead of watching AA stuff... I know I shouldn't feel ashamed but I do.

:viola:

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Yeah, it's basically a set-up for one. The one with the abandoned prison even more so.
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Southern Corn (SC) wrote:
It was good and I was sad to wake up just to realise there's no ice cream in the fridge

I feel you. I'd love some ice cream right now.
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Apollo and Polecat in a house, doing something. Like looking around. Apollo, I think this Anthony boy is a sneaky influence on you. Maybe Polecat is into urban exploration of abandoned buildings and stuff?

Oh, that Anthony... That interest kinda suits him, actually. And now he's dragging Apollo along on his adventures.
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I'm not sure how I missed "Drugworth" and read it as "Drunkworth isn't at least Rubia" and I nodded.

Hahaha. No, you're certainly not one and the same.
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I think I get why Apollo started calling him Polecat. Polecats feel like a sneaky kind of animal.

Indeed so. x)

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Something about Yuty having his arms around Timmari's waist for a long time.

A reference to Zuka.

A mention of the nickname
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Rx5, someone thought that I could include the last "r" in "Roger" as well as "mister", but I thought that Rx7 would be exessive.


Reference to Retinz and Sarge's drone. I know I was pretty amused (in the dream).

Either the Mood Matrix was used on Yuty, or it should be.
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Maybe Yuty was worried about how much ice cream Tim had been eating as he was having an obesity problem and was checking his waistline?
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Nah, it was in a cuddly way, and Timmari had the same bodytype he had on the drawing GfM once made. I don't think Timmari gains weight easily, I mean, he's about thirty, give or take some year, and he's still slim after all that ice cream...

Edit: I might have been Yuty for a short while in that dream since I remember having my arms around a very nice lil' waist.

Edit-edit: And now I remember that I, right after the dream while still being asleep, compared it with Retinz' waist (since I've had my arms around it twice in dreams), both of them felt good to hold, but Retinz' waist was more... compatible or something with my arms and hands. I don't know. I loved holding my arms around Retinz' waist when I had those dreams so I guess it's because of that.
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What's with the sudden waist obsession in your dreams? :-P

Oh,I haven't jinxed your dreams in a while.

Platypus,22 oranges,Retinz writing a poem,and the real Samuel Becker marrying Alexander Hamilton. GO
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Oh, that Anthony... That interest kinda suits him, actually. And now he's dragging Apollo along on his adventures.

I think it does. And Apollo is used to investigating, after all. I like how I dreamed about Apollo and Polecat the three nights in a row that I spent in my mum's house. Must have been something in the air in my sisters room.

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Something about Yuty having his arms around Timmari's waist for a long time.

Not a waist of time.

By the way, now that they're married I came to think of Timmari and Apollo being brothers-in-law. But Timmari is also an investigator, and Apollo a defense attorney, so in a sense they are also brothers in law. Like the legal version of partners in crime.
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Southern Corn (SC) wrote:
What's with the sudden waist obsession in your dreams? :-P

I don't know, but it's rather cozy. x3
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Platypus,22 oranges,Retinz writing a poem,and the real Samuel Becker marrying Alexander Hamilton. GO

Oh, oh, let's see what my subconscious may come up with. I don't know anything about a Samuel Becker that isn't me, though, would it be alright if I swapped him with Samuel Beckett? Otherwise I'm sure my subconscious mind can come up with something. So: an orange-loving platypus that Retinz once saw, then he got to know about the marriage of Samuel and Alexander so he decided to write a poem in their honour.
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I think it does. And Apollo is used to investigating, after all. I like how I dreamed about Apollo and Polecat the three nights in a row that I spent in my mum's house. Must have been something in the air in my sisters room.

I wonder if the fact that he's used to sneak around was of benefit when he helped those rebels, then. :) And yes, that's true. They make a good team. I like it too - I wonder why that is, but it's certainly a good thing. I really like those dreams (even though one was a sad one).
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Not a waist of time.

Mehehe. x)
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By the way, now that they're married I came to think of Timmari and Apollo being brothers-in-law. But Timmari is also an investigator, and Apollo a defense attorney, so in a sense they are also brothers in law. Like the legal version of partners in crime.

Aaah, that's really neat! :edgey:
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I wonder if the fact that he's used to sneak around was of benefit when he helped those rebels, then. :)

Aaah, yes. He'd know where to find hiding places where people won't look. I... I adore him.

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(even though one was a sad one).

But Apollo was being nice to him, so that's worth something.
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Aaah, yes. He'd know where to find hiding places where people won't look. I... I adore him.

Our sneaky little Poley. *holds hand on heart* I... I adore him.
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But Apollo was being nice to him, so that's worth something.

Exactly! It might have been sad, but it was cute too.
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I stayed up late doing homework instead of watching AA stuff... I know I shouldn't feel ashamed but I do.

:viola:

We all know which of the two is more worthwhile.

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Oh, that Anthony... That interest kinda suits him, actually. And now he's dragging Apollo along on his adventures.

A new dream series, I hope. (Man, I miss the days of Ron and Godot. And sometimes Blackquill.)

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Reference to Retinz and Sarge's drone. I know I was pretty amused (in the dream).

War. War never changes.

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Something about Yuty having his arms around Timmari's waist for a long time.

Not a waist of time.

Not a waste of space either, more like waist space.


I don't remember if I had an AA dream, but I had a rude awakening by train again. And in my half-asleep tumult, I got into an argument with Phoenix.
"Stop driving those dang trains, Dad!"
"It wasn't me!"
"Don't lie to me! I know it was you!"
"How could it be me? I don't have a train license!"
"That wouldn't stop you! How would you feel if it were Franziska driving them by your house!?"
Beat.
Another train passes and by then I'm fully awake.
"...Wait, what if it was her all along?"

I swear I have some of the oddest thoughts when I just wake up. Now they're being accompanied by trains.
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We all know which of the two is more worthwhile.

Yes... yes we do.

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A new dream series, I hope.

Haha. The Adventures of Mr. Justice and Mr. Polecat.

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(Man, I miss the days of Ron and Godot. And sometimes Blackquill.)

Me too... At least it had a nice open ending with them on new adventures (I presume: my last dream with them was them using codenames on walkie-talkies). And yes, Morot :D

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Take that, "Daddy".

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"...Wait, what if it was her all along?"

Oh my.
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A new dream series, I hope. (Man, I miss the days of Ron and Godot. And sometimes Blackquill.)

Wouldn't be bad. A Polecat-dream is mostly a wonderful dream. (I love the last Ron and Godot-dream GfM had...)
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War. War never changes.

It never does... It irks me that I've had two of those dreams where I didn't get to know what happened, though. I find Retinz vs Sarge's drone-dreams hilarious, and I find it hilarious because I do, I don't know why I find it that funny.
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"Stop driving those dang trains, Dad!"

Dammit, Wright! xD
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"That wouldn't stop you! How would you feel if it were Franziska driving them by your house!?"

Of course it wouldn't stop him from making dad jokes and trolling his daughter.
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Another train passes and by then I'm fully awake.
"...Wait, what if it was her all along?"

That would certainly be a twist.
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Luigi killed someone in a series of weird wires while I simultaneously was reading a book about him. I had a magazine,too. I had to take off my pants temporarily in the bus. I hid myself though. I also ran back home at the rate of 1000m/ minute. I reached home fast. Then Apollo ordered a pizza WITH PINEAPPLE. I think someone died doing that in Florida,actually.
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Good going, Apollo. As a Swede, I will never understand what people have against pizza with pineapple. It's nice.

I was playing a case. The player character was Rubia. She went into an apartment where a guy called Adrian lived. Their interaction was oddly familiar, sometimes it almost sounded as if he was her dad, even though he was about eighteen years old and the two of them had only met once before on another investigation, and just briefly. Then Rubia cross-examined him right there and then, Pursuit theme and all. He went somewhere and she waited in the apartment. The last thing he said before leaving was "I'm sorry, it wasn't my intention to come across as rude", which was a big thing because he was usually pretty grumpy and, well, rude. Then the player perspective shifted to him when he came back, and an inner monologue went by automatically and so rapidly all I had time to see was "(Well I for one did nothing!)" and the name Tiffany (leading me to think that then I should already had known her name because I had played that case before). I think there was an error with the game, and it annoyed me that I couldn't stop it, the case was from the AJ-era so there was no backlog. Anyway it continued for a bit, now taking place outside, but I don'tremember anything else.
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A guy called Adrian? That's...rather interesting. How did it feel to play like Rubia anyway?
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It worked well. She's :phoenix: 's daughter, so it's to be expected.
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I also ran back home at the rate of 1000m/ minute. I reached home fast.

Hahaha. That would be practical, to have that ability.
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PINEAPPLE.

WHERE!!?

...and I, too, like pizza with pineapple.
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The player character was Rubia.

Oh dear!
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Their interaction was oddly familiar, sometimes it almost sounded as if he was her dad, even though he was about eighteen years old and the two of them had only met once before on another investigation, and just briefly.

Hah. Sounds peculiar and pretty interesting.
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The last thing he said before leaving was "I'm sorry, it wasn't my intention to come across as rude", which was a big thing because he was usually pretty grumpy and, well, rude.

Aww. :will:

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I was discussing Spirit of Justice with someone. She said that she found the fact that Apollo moved to Khura'in very sad, she didn't really like it. She asked me how I had reacted to it, and I showed her what I had done when I watched it and got to know what he chose: smiling widely and rubbing my hands together with joy. I said that I found it beautiful that he would continue his father's work, and that he would be able to bond with his brother, so they could have a close relationship again. I also said that "Nahyuta is fine :3". (I didn't say :3, of course, but the way I said it had a :3-smiley-vibe to it.)


Someone who had worked with either a movie or a game was named Kengeke (some month ago I had a dream where Godot had two aides named Hengeke and Lengeke), but it was his surname. Still wouldn't surprise me if he was quite big, had red hair and maybe freckles, looked exactly like Hengeke and Lengeke but wasn't related to either of them.

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Ga'ran met Retinz in New York once. It ended up with him satisfying her with his mouth.


Both Yuty and Timmari had had quite the hangover after their wedding. They sated their hangover-thirst with lemon water. "That's not how you do it, you don't just get up, fill a jug with water, find a lemon, cut the lemon, squeeze it into the water if you have a hangover", I thought - "too ambitious."
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Someone who had worked with either a movie or a game was named Kengeke (some month ago I had a dream where Godot had two aides named Hengeke and Lengeke), but it was his surname. Still wouldn't surprise me if he was quite big, had red hair and maybe freckles, looked exactly like Hengeke and Lengeke but wasn't related to either of them.

I wonder how many of them are out there. Bengeke, Dengeke, Gengeke...

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Both Yuty and Timmari had had quite the hangover after their wedding. They sated their hangover-thirst with lemon water. "That's not how you do it, you don't just get up, fill a jug with water, find a lemon, cut the lemon, squeeze it into the water if you have a hangover", I thought - "too ambitious."

Of course you do. I wonder if it helps. Vitamin C is supposedly good for hangovers?

Klavi sends calling cards, not any calling cards but invitations for hanky-panky, that is catcalling cards because of course he does. The wordplay is re-used from an old dream concerning Godot and/or Ron but still, pretty sweet. He never signs them because the person who recieves them will immediately know it's him anyway. Then I dreamed Apollo's erected genitalia could predict the weather. Had I known that would happen I would've just bought coffee or something rather than taking a nap. At least it's supposedly going to be "super-weather" for the next couple of days, dunno what it means but it sounds nice. Or potentially dangerous.
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I wonder how many of them are out there. Bengeke, Dengeke, Gengeke...

WengekeforGengeke. Gengeke for Mengeke. Rengeke Rengeke the Rengeke. Bengeke. Sengeke Cengeke (SC).
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Of course you do. I wonder if it helps. Vitamin C is supposedly good for hangovers?

Chugging lots of Coca Cola straight from the bottle is my favourite, but not everyone can be as ambitious as... I think it was Yuty. Hmmm, perhaps it was a smart thing to do if so.
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Klavi sends calling cards, not any calling cards but invitations for hanky-panky, that is catcalling cards because of course he does.

That's just so Klavi.
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He never signs them because the person who recieves them will immediately know it's him anyway.

Yes - who else?
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Then I dreamed Apollo's erected genitalia could predict the weather.

:spit: Caught me off guard!
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Had I known that would happen I would've just bought coffee or something rather than taking a nap.

Oh, but it was interesting information.
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At least it's supposedly going to be "super-weather" for the next couple of days, dunno what it means but it sounds nice. Or potentially dangerous.

Hmmm... I wonder if he uses it when he hits on people, the expression "super-weather".
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Hmmm, perhaps it was a smart thing to do if so.

Nahyuta is a smart thing. Keep it up with these wedding-dreams and we'll soon have the entire wedding and its aftermath made clear. :edgey:

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Rengeke Rengeke the Rengeke.

Sounds like a broken record. Rengekecord.

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Caught me off guard!

Haha. It caught me off guard, that's for sure.

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Hmmm... I wonder if he uses it when he hits on people, the expression "super-weather".

Yes. There's definitely an innuendo about blowing here. Oh, and maybe the sun(god) rising.
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Nahyuta is a smart thing. Keep it up with these wedding-dreams and we'll soon have the entire wedding and its aftermath made clear. :edgey:

He's a smart thing (had my fingers in an awkward position and "thing" became "tjong"... but being a "smart tjong" sounds rather fitting for a monkl) indeed. Yes, oh, I want more of those! :edgey: I hope you get a few too (with more information than the fact that the wedding will take place soon)!
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Sounds like a broken record. Rengekecord.

Hahah. Yes, it does. Now we all have buff quadronts (quengekes) with red hair, none of them related.
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Haha. It caught me off guard, that's for sure.

I definitely understand that it did. As for me, I had quoted your entire post, and my mind felt all sluggish and I quoted as I read and suddenly... Apollo's erect genitalia can predict the weather.
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Yes. There's definitely an innuendo about blowing here. Oh, and maybe the sun(god) rising.

*sings* I will let the sun go down on me... ~

(Not me personally, I don't want Apollo's weather-predictor and what comes with it. But someone Apollo seduced.)
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"smart tjong"

That he is.

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Now we all have buff quadronts (quengekes) with red hair, none of them related.

All in a day's work.

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suddenly... Apollo's erect genitalia can predict the weather.

It came unexpectedly, the information.

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Apollo's weather-predictor

I'll be using this euphemism if I'm ever in a position where I need to refer to it again.
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All in a day's work.

They're ambitious.
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It came unexpectedly, the information.

Oh, by the way...
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I'll be using this euphemism if I'm ever in a position where I need to refer to it again.

Ah, you do so!
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Darn,y'all caught me. I'm actually Sengeke Cengeke. I was hiding this for years,but you figured me out. Yes,there is one of us for every letter and combination of letters in the alphabet. So infinitely many.

I wouldn't be surprised if Apollo's genitals could predict the weather,though. What if he IS the weather? After all,he can control it. He's a God. *badum-tssh*

Retinz kinda appeared in your dream though,so I'll take partial credit for jinxing it. Today's jinx is...

Phoenix,Maya,Layton,Apollo,that one bridge in London,and 25 Retinz clones the size of Godzilla. Let's see how it goes.

Whoops Goldberg

I didn't mean to type that but I'll leave it because I find it funny
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Southern Corn (SC) wrote:
Darn,y'all caught me. I'm actually Sengeke Cengeke. I was hiding this for years,but you figured me out. Yes,there is one of us for every letter and combination of letters in the alphabet. So infinitely many.

Uh-oh! Cat's out of the bag now. And of course they're infinitely many, of course...
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Retinz kinda appeared in your dream though,so I'll take partial credit for jinxing it.

You do so - that's the easy thing with adding him to the jinxing. It's a big chance that he'll show up, and then one can slyly take some credit. Perhaps Samuel's and Alexander's wedding took place in New York and Ga'ran was a guest.
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Phoenix,Maya,Layton,Apollo,that one bridge in London,and 25 Retinz clones the size of Godzilla. Let's see how it goes.

They're all trying to cross the bridge, but those damn clones makes it impossible for them to do so.
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Whoops Goldberg

I didn't mean to type that but I'll leave it because I find it funny

It's a good typo.
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Infinitely many cats are in that bag. Is Schrödinger's Cat in there? The answer is:

Yes and no

Hahahahahaha yes it is a good typo PEACE LOVE AND ANDISTANDHIN
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Perhaps it was Schrödinger's cat who jumped out because it got tired of being used for philosophy and wanted some individuality instead of just being an example.
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And then it will be like with Frankenstein/Frankensteins's monster; people will mix them up and think that it's the cat that is called Schrödinger.
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Gosh. Poor cat. :shoe: :/

Perhaps Shoe is Schrödinger's cat.
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And Matt Engarde is Schrödinger? "Y'know, dude, I never watched that videotape, so as long as it's not observed we can't know whether or not it was the hitman I hired that killed him, yeah? It both was and wasn't. So you can't hold me responsible for that!"
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The court declares the defendant,Matt Engarde...Guilty and Not Guilty!
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Ah, the hidden third option. Leading to a glorious breakdown due to sheer confusion on Matt's part.
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Then what would Shelly do? Would he kill and not kill him? Because if so,then Matt IS Schrödinger's Cat (or SC,for short). But wait,I thought that Shoe was SC! O my god,can it be?! Ladies and gentleman,I think we've just proved that Schrödinger IS his cat! What a twist! *confess the truth plays*
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Too bad JfA didn't have thought routes. I'd like to see that one.
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