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Yes, I meant the one on her hip. I thought it was part of her pink shirt, when it was part of her white skirt.
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Spoiler: 3-2 camera problem
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MikeMeekins wrote:
Spoiler: 3-2 camera problem
Spoiler: 3-2
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Spoiler: Case 2 Spoilawrz
You fool! You are so foolish, I will make you bargain for justified self-defense!
Hey! That's a good idea.Well, it doesn't count for anything in Florida, at least.
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Justice is blind wrote:
I thought of this one while I was playing case 2-2.
Well, it doesn't count for anything in Florida, at least.
Spoiler: Case 2 Spoilawrz
Well, it doesn't count for anything in Florida, at least.
Um....
1. That didn't actually happen.
2. That isn't considered a contradiction. This is a topic where we point out contradiction, not a make up funny quotes :C
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Justice is blind wrote:
Well, it is true that in 2-2, Franziska says that she'll make you go for justified self-defense. Which would be pretty easy to pull off. At the VERY least, much easier than a not guilty verdict.
If I recall, there was a reason they couldn't go for that verdict.
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Also I bring you a contradiction.
Spoiler: 3-2/2-4
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WhiteElephant wrote:
The reason Phoenix didn't want to go that road was because he KNEW Maya couldn't have done it (Mia said that spirit mediums don't dream while channeling, but Maya did dream so she couldn't have done it) and that whether it be self-defense or not it still be branding Maya as a murderer which would be betraying her trust in him.
Well, let's just say that had I been in Phoenix's position, I would've tried to end it there.
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Justice is blind wrote:
WhiteElephant wrote:
The reason Phoenix didn't want to go that road was because he KNEW Maya couldn't have done it (Mia said that spirit mediums don't dream while channeling, but Maya did dream so she couldn't have done it) and that whether it be self-defense or not it still be branding Maya as a murderer which would be betraying her trust in him.
Well, let's just say that had I been in Phoenix's position, I would've tried to end it there.
Yes, but you would still get Maya in jail as a murderer. Albeit the sentence would be shortened she would still go to jail and Pearl would become the new master of Kurain right after Misty.
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WhiteElephant wrote:
Also I bring you a contradiction.
Spoiler: 3-2/2-4
Spoiler:
Oh, and:
Spoiler: 2-4 and 3-3
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Justice is blind wrote:
Not in FFFLLLOOORRIIDAA!!!
1. Phoenix Wright doesn't take place in Florida, it takes place in Los Angeles.
2. The Los Angeles in the games is part of a fictional alternate universe, where real life laws may not apply.
3. Even if Maya were to get away scott free by pleading justified self-defense, that would still be saying she killed someone. She'd be branded with that label for the rest of her life.
Phoenix_Apollo wrote:
Spoiler: 2-4 and 3-3
Spoiler: 2-4
And a newspaper article having slightly odd wording wouldn't really be a contradiction anyway.
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Whatever. The GS laws are all messed up anyhow.
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Besides, if Phoenix ended it there, the real killer would have gotten away.
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But that's another problem I have with these games- why is it that you HAVE to prove SOMEBODY ELSE GUILTY in order to dispel doubt from your client? I mean, of COURSE all the prosecutors are undefeated! They'd have to be Dudley Do-Right (Or Payne) to lose!
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Justice is blind wrote:
Fine jeez.
But that's another problem I have with these games- why is it that you HAVE to prove SOMEBODY ELSE GUILTY in order to dispel doubt from your client? I mean, of COURSE all the prosecutors are undefeated! They'd have to be Dudley Do-Right (Or Payne) to lose!
But that's another problem I have with these games- why is it that you HAVE to prove SOMEBODY ELSE GUILTY in order to dispel doubt from your client? I mean, of COURSE all the prosecutors are undefeated! They'd have to be Dudley Do-Right (Or Payne) to lose!
It makes sense, really. It's like proving all other types of evidence:
"If your client is not guilty, then who is? Oh, and don't forget to back up what you say."
It would be the next logical question.
EDIT: That last part was...unnessecary. Are you calling Edgeworth, both von Karmas, Godot, and Klavier, Dudley Do-Right?
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No matter the man, we all wear masks - Either on our faces or over our hearts...
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Jeff.Smart wrote:
I don't know if it's already been mentioned (due to the 36 pages preceding my post ^^) but
Spoiler:
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Am I missing something?
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Type of cough-up: Overlook of the writers
Location: 1-5 and 3-5
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Spoiler: 3-5
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Bad Player wrote:
Name: But the attorney's badge...
Type of cough-up: Overlook of the writers
Location: 1-5 and 3-5
Description:
Type of cough-up: Overlook of the writers
Location: 1-5 and 3-5
Description:
Spoiler: 3-5
You're forgetting 3-3...
Spoiler:
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Croik wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
Name: But the attorney's badge...
Type of cough-up: Overlook of the writers
Location: 1-5 and 3-5
Description:
Type of cough-up: Overlook of the writers
Location: 1-5 and 3-5
Description:
Spoiler: 3-5
You're forgetting 3-3...
Spoiler:
Spoiler: 3-3
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Type of cough-up: Negligible Inconsistancy
Location: 4-1 and 4-3
In 4-1, when describing the Hydeout, Phoenix mentions that the Black Market is a thing of the past, only known in movies now. Later, in 4-3, the confirmed existence of the Black Market is important. It might have just been Phoenix not getting his facts straight, or it could have been hyperbole to eliminate any doubt that the activity in the Hydeout was legal.
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Name:Show me the Photos
Type of Cough-Up:Missing Evidence
Location:Case 1-4, at the Gourd Lake Woods
Description: Lotta's camera should have taken many more photos than those she presented to the court. When Phoenix and Maya visit the woods after the incident and Maya uses the party popper, an entire roll of film is used. However, Lotta only has two photographs of the incident when it should have taken a collection of shots. Where did all this evidence disappear to? It would have been important, seeing as the shots could have easily shown what really happened on the boat we strung together.
Possible explanation: Lotta might have changed her camera settings after that night (though she didn't know about the murder, so I don't know why exactly she would have done that).
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@Reemokisu: Lotta definitely changed the settings on the photo some time between the crime scene photos and the party popper. After all, when Maya used the party popp, the camera took an entire roll of film. If it had been set at those party popper settings, then we would only have a roll of photos of the empty lake (from the first shot).
(Or, alternatively, if she changed rolls in between the two sets of shots, even though she never mentioned anything of the sort in the testimony, then all the photos were probably basically exactly the same and so only one was needed)
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Name: Edgeworth speaking to himself?
Type of cough-up: Mis-writing, minor.
Location: Case 1-2, day 1, just before calling the 1st witness.
Description:
After Edgeworth says his opening statement, the Judge tells him to call his first witness... however, the text box makes it seem like Edgeworth is saying that. Basically, what you'd see is:
Quote:
[Edgeworth]
|You may call your first witness.|
|You may call your first witness.|
It seems the writers goofed up since at that part the game cuts to Edgeworth, but obviously he doesn't even move his lips.
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Title: Can You Hear Me Now?
Type of cough-up: Contradiction of facts
Spoiler: 1-2, Courtroom Day 1
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K2J wrote:
Also from 1-2...
Title: Can You Hear Me Now?
Type of cough-up: Contradiction of facts
Title: Can You Hear Me Now?
Type of cough-up: Contradiction of facts
Spoiler: 1-2, Courtroom Day 1
Spoiler: 1-2
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WhiteElephant wrote:
K2J wrote:
Also from 1-2...
Title: Can You Hear Me Now?
Type of cough-up: Contradiction of facts
Title: Can You Hear Me Now?
Type of cough-up: Contradiction of facts
Spoiler: 1-2, Courtroom Day 1
Spoiler: 1-2
Spoiler: 1-2
Name: JFA's video played is busted
Type of cough-up: Not sure.
Location: 2-4, contradicting with 1-5 and 4-3
Description: In the games, you magically play the "Guitar's Serenade" and the infamous "Wriggling piece of plywood" videos for everyone to see on the invisible screen, yet in 2-4, they can't up and play the "Juan loldead" video. Of course, this has to be because GS1-3 were on GBA, so it would be near-impossible to have videos to point out contradictions in, to come up with an explanation for my own contradiction.
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DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
Name: JFA's video played is busted
Type of cough-up: Not sure.
Location: 2-4, contradicting with 1-5 and 4-3
Description: In the games, you magically play the "Guitar's Serenade" and the infamous "Wriggling piece of plywood" videos for everyone to see on the invisible screen, yet in 2-4, they can't up and play the "Juan loldead" video. Of course, this has to be because GS1-3 were on GBA, so it would be near-impossible to have videos to point out contradictions in, to come up with an explanation for my own contradiction.
This is more due to the creators not wanting to show a fairly violent scene. Unlike the meekins video, it would not be obscured by anything due to the bear with the camera having a clear view. The creators wouldn't especially want to show someone getting strangled, struggling and eventually dying.
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K2J wrote:
Also from 1-2...
Title: Can You Hear Me Now?
Type of cough-up: Contradiction of facts
Title: Can You Hear Me Now?
Type of cough-up: Contradiction of facts
Spoiler: 1-2, Courtroom Day 1
Spoiler: 1-2
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WhiteElephant wrote:
Chum wrote:
1-5 wasn't in the original PW:AA game, so this was done accidentally.
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SL-9 was two years before Bruce Goodman's death, right? And it was part of a plan to make Lana Skye chief prosecutor.
See where I'm going?
Where are you going? Do I need to pack-SHUT UP UDGY.
Anyway, DL-6 was FIFTEEN years ago. Lana would probably still be in High School or something.
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Nose wrote:
he picture shows the 2 men fighting and the "blue badger" in the air, after seeing this Ema went to push who she thought was darke out of the way, this caused the vase to fall making it look like the badger. how did Ema see the "blue badger" before she pushed Neil? if this was explained in-game I'm sorry.
There were 2 flashes of lightning. During the first Ema saw Neil and Darke, and in the second Ema saw the vase.
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Type: General lack of Psyche-Locks
Now, I'm not exactly sure how the Magatama really works to a full extent, but sometimes it doesn't pick up when someone is hiding something. Like, it shows locks on a lot of things, but if you replay a case you've already beat, and someone says something you know is untrue and think "Oh, they're definitely hiding something." But the Psyche-Locks don't show up, even though it's obvious they are hiding something since you've beaten the case before and know it. I guess this was to go forward in the case, but it still bugs me. For instance:
Spoiler: Case 2-2
There are other cases other than that, and I'm sure it's just so you don't know the full story too soon, but if the Psyche-Locks are set to show up when someone is hiding something, then theoretically they should show up when someone is hiding something. =P It's not too big of a contradiction, but it still kinda irks me when I'm replaying cases. xD If you were playing the case for the first time, you wouldn't think anything of it and forget about it later on, but when you replay cases you notice stuff like that. =P
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Phoenix Wright is likely one of the best translated games to this day. However, that doesn't mean there arn't any flaws. Lets uncover them.
Name: (just a little title to it)
Type of cough-up: (misspelling, court inconsistancy, alternate case solving, etc.)
Location: (what chapter, who, what, where?)
Description: (what is the matter with it?)
I'll start :)
Name: Angel - Lana's 'guilt'
Type of cough-up: Alternate solution
Location: Case 5, first testemony
Description:
There is a way where you could've gotten out of Angel's deduction. One is Edgeworth's knife - Lana cut herself. There were blood on the shoe as evidence. However, her blood wasn't on the knife. She had to get cut, while at the victim, but why wasn't ther any traces on the knife? Because there was another knife in play. She cut herself. She would've wielded it. But why did she suddenly use another knife, then? That doesn't fit. It would only fit together if she stabbed him with it. However, does that mean that he was already dead when Angel saw him? But why did she stab him twice? She didn't. She marely pulled out the knife of the already dead victim and planted another. She wanted to get caught while doing it. The barrel of water was only swept out to make it look like there WAS blood - the body was transported in by the car, most likely. The scene of the crime was diffrent, and hence, Lana wouldn't be guilty. Stretching it? Maybe.
Name: Gant - Ema's 'guilt'
Type of cough-up: Alternate solution
Location: Case 5, last testemony
Description:
You must get out of his grip, almost faking evidence, in order to win over him - making him spill the beans, and tick him with evidence law. This shouldn't be needed. If you see the contradiction in the image, you should just be able to object. Right? Gant couldn't worm himself out of that one, even if he didn't say too much.
Name: von Karma - letter copy
Type of cough-up: Alternate solution
Location: Case 4, last investigation
Description:
When you get the letter, copy it FFS. Why bring him the original?! Man, your dumb, Phoenix. You got your wares, Phoenix. Make them count! Say its the original, and have everything proceed as it did, but have the backup. Get him arrested, and get all the DL-6 files back.
Name: Das V - Sal's guilt
Type of cough-up: Story inconsistancy
Location: Case 3, last testemony
Description:
Why would Vanquez use Sal for getting rid of the corpse, when she has a mafia squad waiting to do her bidding? I can easily imagine that Sal would drive the van, not knowing what was inside it, and as for him being outside, she could've just forced him back inside when she saw Hammer approching. And what with the pink princess? That was sal's idea. He couldn't publish that from jail!
The better ones may be featured on CR's Contradictions page. But as a rule, we aren't looking for glitches or grammer errors, like a Male Bleep as opposed to a Female, or Matt Enguard's Magic Gobblet of Gravy. We want actal contradictions or blank areas that should've/could've effected the out come of the story.
Name: (just a little title to it)
Type of cough-up: (misspelling, court inconsistancy, alternate case solving, etc.)
Location: (what chapter, who, what, where?)
Description: (what is the matter with it?)
I'll start :)
Name: Angel - Lana's 'guilt'
Type of cough-up: Alternate solution
Location: Case 5, first testemony
Description:
There is a way where you could've gotten out of Angel's deduction. One is Edgeworth's knife - Lana cut herself. There were blood on the shoe as evidence. However, her blood wasn't on the knife. She had to get cut, while at the victim, but why wasn't ther any traces on the knife? Because there was another knife in play. She cut herself. She would've wielded it. But why did she suddenly use another knife, then? That doesn't fit. It would only fit together if she stabbed him with it. However, does that mean that he was already dead when Angel saw him? But why did she stab him twice? She didn't. She marely pulled out the knife of the already dead victim and planted another. She wanted to get caught while doing it. The barrel of water was only swept out to make it look like there WAS blood - the body was transported in by the car, most likely. The scene of the crime was diffrent, and hence, Lana wouldn't be guilty. Stretching it? Maybe.
Name: Gant - Ema's 'guilt'
Type of cough-up: Alternate solution
Location: Case 5, last testemony
Description:
You must get out of his grip, almost faking evidence, in order to win over him - making him spill the beans, and tick him with evidence law. This shouldn't be needed. If you see the contradiction in the image, you should just be able to object. Right? Gant couldn't worm himself out of that one, even if he didn't say too much.
Name: von Karma - letter copy
Type of cough-up: Alternate solution
Location: Case 4, last investigation
Description:
When you get the letter, copy it FFS. Why bring him the original?! Man, your dumb, Phoenix. You got your wares, Phoenix. Make them count! Say its the original, and have everything proceed as it did, but have the backup. Get him arrested, and get all the DL-6 files back.
Name: Das V - Sal's guilt
Type of cough-up: Story inconsistancy
Location: Case 3, last testemony
Description:
Why would Vanquez use Sal for getting rid of the corpse, when she has a mafia squad waiting to do her bidding? I can easily imagine that Sal would drive the van, not knowing what was inside it, and as for him being outside, she could've just forced him back inside when she saw Hammer approching. And what with the pink princess? That was sal's idea. He couldn't publish that from jail!
The better ones may be featured on CR's Contradictions page. But as a rule, we aren't looking for glitches or grammer errors, like a Male Bleep as opposed to a Female, or Matt Enguard's Magic Gobblet of Gravy. We want actal contradictions or blank areas that should've/could've effected the out come of the story.
first of all, it would be virtually impossible to keep Sal unaware of the body in the trunk
second, i'm 85 percent sure that Lana's blood is on edgeworth's knife. remember her confession to phoenix in the detention center?
also, maybe phoenix wasnt aware at the time that von karma had a tazer. it's not like this is TRU Calling where you can relive days.
as for chief gant, phoenix wright had no way to prove who forged the fingerprints on the cloth even if he pointed out the contradicition. it was because chief gant was the only one who didnt faint that he was able to commit the muder.
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