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It was thrown in at the end, it seemed rushed and cliched, it didn't fit Phoenix's character at all and Iris is too nice. She's so much so, in fact, that whenever I talked to her in 3-5 I would tell her to shut up and cheer when she started to cry. I hate her.

Also, she's stealing Phoenix from Edgey. ):<

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Okay, okay, fine, my bad. I apologize. I skimmed the first post rather than reading the whole thing. Shouldn't have jumped down the thread's proverbial throat.

Also, the last line was less of an argument and more of a joke, although I am a P x E supporter.
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Thank you. Let us agree to disagree and let it go at that. I have objections of my own to P/E, so if you'll leave me alone, I'll leave you alone.
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Gregory Wright wrote:
Thank you. Let us agree to disagree and let it go at that. I have objections of my own to P/E, so if you'll leave me alone, I'll leave you alone.

Well I certainly won't come in here with a disregard for the thread guidelines, have someone tell me that and not apologize. I might be a bitch, but I'm not that much of a bitch. :gant:
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Everybody stay civil, okay? Sheesh! I mean, you guys, you have to read the first post carefully.
With that out of the way, PxI is my favorite coupling in the series. Also, I noticed something weird in the book I was reading. It's called I Am A Taxi and it has a guy named Diego in it, and his best friend's name is Armando. Coincidence?
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I'm happy that everything is settled. Now back on topic, here's another pic.
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On another note, everyone should definitely go check out Soramimi Cake's fics in the Present Testimony forum if you haven't already. They are all excellent and the Phoenix/Iris one she wrote is wonderful!

Now for my own shameless plug, I posted another story of my own in my thread with this pairing. Be warned that there are vague GS4 spoilers in it. Reviews make me very happy.
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*bump*
...I know I'm shameless, but it makes me sad that this thread seems to be dying. I come with another pic anyway. It's a time paradox kind of thing.
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Sadly, there doesn't seem to be much to talk about. (unless someone can think of something!)

But I really appreciate all the great pics you provided. Thanks Mia~!
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Ow! Poor Feenie! Looks like he's dangerously close to falling flat on his face! I hope he comes out of it okay...

Nice pic. :will:
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Sounds like its time to spark some discussion in this thread then. I'll pick the first topic. What was the first thing that attracted you to the couple? I'm not talking about the whole reasoning behind why you support them (I alone could go on for quite a while on that topic), but the first thing that really appealed to you about the couple.

Since I suggested the topic, I'll go first. I think the first thing that appealed to me was how both of them always thought of the other's well-being first even though it was not always in their own best interest. Iris gives Phoenix her hood to protect him when it might well have been smarter (for her own sake) to keep that protection for herself, but what really matters to Iris is that Phoenix is safe. Also, after being arrested, Phoenix's condition is the first thing she asks about, completely dismissing her own troubles until she is reassured that he is safe and will recover. After falling from a bridge and being terribly ill, the first thing Phoenix does is send Edgeworth to take care of her. He just wants to make sure Iris comes through this okay, so he sends his close friend who happens to be an excellent attorney to watch over her (He does this even if it means he must go through his recovery alone. Being sick and alone is not fun). Also for Iris's sake, Phoenix checks himself out of the hospital before he is truly ready all so that he can take over and protect Iris. He wants to be the one to defend and protect her even if it puts his health at risk (I imagine that if Iris had discovered he was still ill, she would have sent him back to the hospital immediately). There are a bunch more examples of just this point, but I've babbled long enough. I just found this adorable and then of course I saw a bunch of other things which made the couple even more appealing, but I won't go on anymore. This long paragraph is why I decided not to post my whole reasoning behind the couple. I tend to go on quite a bit. :oops:

Now discuss everyone!
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Nice post there Mia...

About time, I should start posting up my reason...

I think it's that sense of something isn't right when I started playing Turnabout Memories. After playing the previous 2 games, I had a sense of deja vu when I saw Dahlia Hawthorne. But something still bugged me when I thought about Phoenix's claims that Dahlia was a sweet and innocent girl even though she came out to be a complete b****. So I kept that in mind before I started to play Bridge to the Turnabout.

When we were first introduced to Iris, she kept avoiding Phoenix which was odd to me. But then something happened which I didn't expect which was when Iris gave her hood to Phoenix. It was then that everything made sense sort of. But it's the concern she always gives to him even though he didn't figure out who she was until the end. It was a lost love story almost to a point but it still ended great though.

I still laughed at the epilogue when Iris told Phoenix she still feels bad when Pearls hit him rather had......
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Well even before i knew there "secret" I got short hints throughout the game. the first time i saw Iris in her normal position without the hood she just scared me but the blush pose through me away and how good they go together is just.... After i watched the secret part i fell deeply in love with the pairing. And from then on Iris was my favorite character. FeenRis favorite paring. DONE

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Believe it or not, I still thought she was Dahlia and "Iris" was an alias when I first started noticing her as a possibility for Phoenix. Of course I was still a little jittery about her at this point, but the walls started crumbling when she met Edgeworth. When she started talking about purifying her soul, I started to hope. Is she serious? Dare I believe it? Then came these two lines:

"Naturally, I will pass the baton to Wright."
"No...please dont. He wouldn't want to defend me!"

When she broke down, something inside me melted. Aww... If she had done that in front of Phoenix, I would've taken it with a few grains of salt, but with Phoenix absent I found it much easier to believe that she wasn't putting on an act. Naturally, when I learned the true nature of her "secret", all doubt flew out the window. Obviously, I'm a sucker for redemption stories. :will:
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I still laughed at the epilogue when Iris told Phoenix she still feels bad when Pearls hit him rather had......

I got a kick out of that part too! The other part I found amusing (and adorable also) was toward the end of 3-5 where Edgeworth mentions how when he visited Phoenix in the hospital, Phoenix was wearing Iris's hood. Not only did the mental image amuse me, but I just found Phoenix's trust in Iris's words (that the hood would protect him) and his reliance on her gift to him very cute (especially that not only was was he clutching on to it like it was a lifeline while he was ill, but also that he had felt it important enough to him that he managed to keep it with him despite the fact that it would likely have been lost in the river had he not made some effort to keep hold of it). Actually, Phoenix's handing over Iris's hood to Edgeworth is yet another example of one person putting the other first as Phoenix gives up something which is clearly important to him so that Edgeworth can use it as evidence in Iris's defense. I will admit that both comments certainly added more fuel to my love for this pairing which was already rather intense by this point.
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Mia_Fey wrote:
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I still laughed at the epilogue when Iris told Phoenix she still feels bad when Pearls hit him rather had......

I got a kick out of that part too! The other part I found amusing (and adorable also) was toward the end of 3-5 where Edgeworth mentions how when he visited Phoenix in the hospital, Phoenix was wearing Iris's hood. Not only did the mental image amuse me, but I just found Phoenix's trust in Iris's words (that the hood would protect him) and his reliance on her gift to him very cute (especially that not only was was he clutching on to it like it was a lifeline while he was ill, but also that he had felt it important enough to him that he managed to keep it with him despite the fact that it would likely have been lost in the river had he not made some effort to keep hold of it). Actually, Phoenix's handing over Iris's hood to Edgeworth is yet another example of one person putting the other first as Phoenix gives up something which is clearly important to him so that Edgeworth can use it as evidence in Iris's defense. I will admit that both comments certainly added more fuel to my love for this pairing which was already rather intense by this point.


Hmm, that's something I didn't think of at first. But that's a good point. I think Phoenix holds all his friends close to his heart regardless of whether or not they are enemies or friends. Iris was a lot more different especially in the epilogue where she told him that he kept looking at her regardless of Pearl's big smackdown :edgy:
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Bruce Goldberg wrote:
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I still laughed at the epilogue when Iris told Phoenix she still feels bad when Pearls hit him rather had......

I got a kick out of that part too! The other part I found amusing (and adorable also) was toward the end of 3-5 where Edgeworth mentions how when he visited Phoenix in the hospital, Phoenix was wearing Iris's hood. Not only did the mental image amuse me, but I just found Phoenix's trust in Iris's words (that the hood would protect him) and his reliance on her gift to him very cute (especially that not only was was he clutching on to it like it was a lifeline while he was ill, but also that he had felt it important enough to him that he managed to keep it with him despite the fact that it would likely have been lost in the river had he not made some effort to keep hold of it). Actually, Phoenix's handing over Iris's hood to Edgeworth is yet another example of one person putting the other first as Phoenix gives up something which is clearly important to him so that Edgeworth can use it as evidence in Iris's defense. I will admit that both comments certainly added more fuel to my love for this pairing which was already rather intense by this point.


Hmm, that's something I didn't think of at first. But that's a good point. I think Phoenix holds all his friends close to his heart regardless of whether or not they are enemies or friends. Iris was a lot more different especially in the epilogue where she told him that he kept looking at her regardless of Pearl's big smackdown :edgy:

Pretty much. A big part of Phoenix's character is that is that he cares so deeply about his friends and his sort of substitute family, but despite the fact that Iris is clearly very important to him, she isn't tied to him through bonds of friendship (like Larry, Miles, and I would even include Franziska) or by familial bonds (like Maya and Pearl). She holds a different but still very special place in his heart as Edgeworth even mentions at the beginning of the case. Phoenix always goes all out to protect the people he cares the most about and he does go all out to protect Iris which shows that she clearly means a great deal to him. We can tell from his reactions to her (and hers to him as well) that he is connected to Iris in a very different, but extremely strong way which I interpreted as continued love.
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Ah...Phoenix wearing Iris' hood...so funny and so cute! I remember being that way--at least to some extent--about a gift from a "special someone". Another thing that drew me to them was the fact that they reacted with wide-eyed, dumbfounded silence at the sight of each other at Hazakura Temple. Of course the situation was awkward, but in my mind, they held eye contact a little too long for it to be entirely shocked and/or ashamed surprise. Looking back especially, I really feel for them both there. I could easily put myself in either of their shoes.
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Hi! Someone in another forum I frequented did a Godot Drawn To Life sprite. So, naturally. I requested an Iris one. this is the result. (I personally think he needs to work on that bottom half a bit more :phoenix: )

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Off topic wise, Mia, have you done any fanfics based on Phoenix + Iris?

Anyway, I wasn't too sure at first what the connection was but it became rather clear afterwards. Anyway, hopefully we'll know the end of Phoenix's story in GS5...
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Off topic wise, Mia, have you done any fanfics based on Phoenix + Iris?

Anyway, I wasn't too sure at first what the connection was but it became rather clear afterwards. Anyway, hopefully we'll know the end of Phoenix's story in GS5...

Mia is all about the Nick and Iris fanfics. :butzthumbs:
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Yes, and she does very good work. In fact, she inspired me to start writing my own P/I fic: Crime and Punishment. We like reviews...
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Reviews are very good and Nick/Iris is simply too cute not to write about.
Also, a few more pics to add.
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I'm posting both the link to the main site (which we all know and love so well) and the more precise link to the pics because it took some digging around the site to locate them so I'm making it easy.

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Okay, a more silly question to spark some discussion. Earlier in the thread we discussed possible nicknames for Iris, but do we think that by twenty-six Phoenix would still use one for his girlfriend. He's certainly grown up quite a bit since he last dated Iris (and never seems to use nicknames much with the exception of the one he gives to Pearl who is like a daughter to him) and I've heard opinions both ways (...I said it was silly question :oops: ). Anyone who wants to suggest a better topic is welcome to do so. I just don't want this thread to die and it will if its just me posting what few pics I can scrounge up.

My opinion is that I think that he would likely still use one although possibly not in front of strangers. Its less a matter of maturity and more a sign of affection for another person. At the very least I think he would use it because I imagine it would make Iris happy to hear. A simple but sweet reminder that he loves her.
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Hahaha, for the sake of bumping huh? :phoenix:

Anyway, I do believe that Phoenix will probably use a nick for her but I think Iris is an easy yet elegant name to use. Even my friends agree that Iris is quite a good name to give an innocent and pure girl to use :edgy:
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Spoiler: GS4/AJ
For such a "strong" pairing, you really have to wonder why it got dissolved along with the rest of Phoenix's relationships in the gap between T&T and AJ, at least aside from the writers sparing fan's feelings.

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I personally theorize the fact that Phoenix was using his own adopted daughter's special power to cheat at poker would have turned off any potential partners - I'm certain Iris would highly disapprove if she caught wind of that. In fact, I've got a fanfic in progress that goes into how Phoenix loses both Maya and Iris (and Edgeworth) because of that.

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That might be true to some extent Moron, but there's more to that though...

Spoiler: Just in case someone hasn't played GS4...
I don't want to write another debate as I've already done for the Diego/Mia thread but to cut it short, I do think that Iris has been with Phoenix long enough to see his faults and flaws. I don't know well enough whether or not Iris knows about Trucy's ability. We do know that the writers for this series is starting a completely new slate so of course some of the longer characters such as Maya and others are easy to link into it.

You do have a valid point that Phoenix could have wanted revenge so badly that he pushed everyone away. But the flip side is that maybe everyone had moved on as well, given how Maya's reaction when he got hit by a car. It's too early call at the moment so we'll just have to wait until GS5 comes out and we start playing for those stories...
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Spoiler: AJ/GS4
I'm not convinced that he did lose everyone. He may not be married or be in a serious relationship with anyone, but that doesn't mean he's lost everyone he cared about. Remember that the game only covers a short period and covers them from Apollo's point of view. If Phoenix saw his friends between those cases, we would have no way of knowing. Hell, even in the previous three games, we weren't kept up to date on everything. The games covered four or five cases each (which covered three days at the most and often didn't even stretch to that). Unless they do something in GS5 to really cement the fact that his friends really are gone, I don't think there is any indication that he's lost everyone. At the very least, the game seems to indicate that he keeps light contact with Maya and, if he does that, what's to say he doesn't keep up with his other friends?

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Well, I do ship Phoenix + Iris. So I guess i'll be posting here.
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BIG PICTURE:

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Behold a new title name! XD
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Brilliant....absolutely brilliant...
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*doesn't like pairing but thinks it's freaking adorkable*

Spoiler: Baaaw...I bet these were posted too already...
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We need to spur some more conversation in this thread. First one to pick a topic (can be silly if needed) gets a cookie.

On another note, the new title is perfect!
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I'm not sure if there is an explanation to this or not but I'm still buggered over the Magatama that Iris holds. Is it from her mother during the time she spend at Kurain Village before her father and they left or was it given when she came into the temple?
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I think its something she got after arriving at the temple as the temple is a branch of Kurain. Dahlia, after all, never wore one (Although she may have had one and simply opted not to wear it. Her memories of the Fey family aren't exactly pleasant ones and I doubt her father would have encouraged wearing it). The temple is a part of the Kurain tradition and everyone associated with it seems to wear a magatama whether or not they are capable of using one.

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I found this couple much more attractive on my second playthrough.

Spoiler: T&T
Namely because at that point I knew who was Dahlia and who was Iris. At the end of 3-1, when Phoenix said to Mia, "I don't think that was my Dollie up there," I thought it was so touching that even though the cold hard evidence was seemingly right there in front of his face, and Mia thought he was just in denial over his girlfriend's betrayal (heck, even I thought so :<), he still believed in her. And when he said it again in 3-5, it made me go, "Wow... after all these years and he still was so sure of the person she really was." And poor Iris for not being able to tell Phoenix her secret for all those years. :larry:

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I know what you mean completely.
Spoiler: T&T
During my first play through of 3-1, I just thought Phoenix was being delusional when he kept saying that couldn't be his Dollie (really wanted to slap him) and even five years later while he's in the hospital looking through those files, he still just can't believe it and he can't move on. As he reads Mia's old file, he just can't bring himself to accept that the girl in that file was the same one he loved despite overwhelming evidence to that fact. That was something that really got to me. Five years is a long time and while I could imagine almost being killed by your lover traumatizing enough to stunt him for a couple of years afterward even if his love for her had faded, five years is pushing my limits off belief that he would still be obsessing over her apparent betrayal unless his feelings for her still remained rather strong despite everything. He also has this incredible faith in Iris and while I don't believe he consciously realized that Iris was "Dollie" (he is very clearly completely shocked at the end), I think on some unconscious level, he must have been able to recognize his "Dollie". When Dahlia's on the stand disguised as Iris, Phoenix keeps thinking to himself (as well as aloud later) how strange she seems and suspects pretty quickly that something is wrong there. Despite the fact that he hasn't known her long and the person on the stand certainly looks like Iris, he isn't fooled by Dahlia's act. They just seemed to have this incredible connection that really appealed to me. I remember that when Iris confessed everything, Phoenix's words from 3-1 came back to me full force and just made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Their love is just so beautiful. It was just so touching when Phoenix told Iris that he always believed in her.

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It's a cute pairing, although Iris reminds me too much of Rockman X-4's Iris (minus the whole giant robot summon thing) but I like the idea of PxI more then PxM

Maya.... she's too much like a young sister o_o
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Franziska1959 wrote:
although Iris reminds me too much of Rockman X-4's Iris (minus the whole giant robot summon thing)

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