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I have 2 more people that I now dislike. Marvin Grossberg and Daryan. Grossberg was alright in PW1, but in T&T he just got really annoying with his butt talk. I didn't really like Daryan anyway, but his laugh really got on my nerve, and he just made me angry altogether. Although I do agree with his opinions about Lamorir and Klavier yelling at him about missing that cue for THE ENTIRE CASE. I guess it bother's me that he says he cares more about prosecuting that being a rock star. He doesn't care if someone messes up testimony, but if someone misses his cue, he gives them hell. If he had the same mentally about prosecution as he does about the Gavinners, he would be a good prosecutor

I hate Zak and Magnifi too, though I'm pretty sure no one likes them to begin with.
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...Zak fine, but...why would anybody really care about Magnifi? All he did was put a bullet in his brain, big whoop.
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...Zak fine, but...why would anybody really care about Magnifi? All he did was put a bullet in his brain, big whoop.


If you bothered to actually play or read through the game, this event of him committing suicide sets off the whole chain of events that lead to Phoenix getting fired. (with the whole fiasco between Zak and Valant and "who shot what")
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That's like blaming Juan Corrida for Maya getting kidnapped.

I have a perfect understanding of the situation, please don't treat me like I don't. But blaming Magnfi for the events that lead to Hobonix is pretty goddamn stupid. Trucy's more responsible than he is. Seriously, Magnifi had diabetes AND cancer, and was chained to a bed for the rest of his life. How DARE he end his suffering so events towards Phoenix losing his badge that he couldn't have possibly predicted happen, how DARE he. Yes, screw Kristoph, Magnifi was to blame this whole time!
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BBdoubleB wrote:
That's like blaming Juan Corrida for Maya getting kidnapped.

I have a perfect understanding of the situation, please don't treat me like I don't. But blaming Magnfi for the events that lead to Hobonix is pretty goddamn stupid. Trucy's more responsible than he is. Seriously, Magnifi had diabetes AND cancer, and was chained to a bed for the rest of his life. How DARE he end his suffering so events towards Phoenix losing his badge that he couldn't have possibly predicted happen, how DARE he. Yes, screw Kristoph, Magnifi was to blame this whole time!


Not so much to -blame- but the start of the entirety of events. Valant seeing that he might be framed, accuses Zak of being the one to murder Magnifi. Zak goes to Kristoph first, but plays poker against him in a test to see if he's worth defending him. Kristoph looses, and Zak decides that he is not worthy to defend him and goes to Phoenix instead. So Kristoph is now so ticked off he goes through the entirety to make sure that by using Vera, Trucy, and his own brother that he can "take out" Phoenix and strip him of the right to be a defense attourney.

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True, saying Magnifi is completely responsible is like saying spoons made Rosie O Donnel fat, but he was the small snowball that escalated into the avalanche that cost Phoenix his badge.

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Maya Fey. She's annoying and unhelpful. And just because she's not in a case doesn't mean she has to have a clone as a defense aide (Even though I liked Ema).

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Godot and Iris.
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:kyouya: Someone already pointed it out in another thread, a hypocrite about seeking the truth pretty much.

:pearl: Stop forcing your ships down my throat when I'm trying to play.

I could add :minuki: but it's more of a disappointed feeling than dislike since I wanted her to do more in AJ.
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:godot: Perhaps it's because everybody thinks he's a tragic hero, who did something wrong - and realized it, losing everything he ever cared about and not being able to get revenge and bla-bla-bla.... he just annoys me. It's because he acts and thinks he's a tragic hero, but that he has every right to be a dickweed towards Wright and, somehow, towards the end of Case 3-5, we're supposed to sympathize for this guy who has proven that he is a dickweed over and over again.
Cool jazzy theme, though.

:pearl: Like soreveil said, stop shoving your ships down my throat. She is cute and sheltered, but somehow the way she's portrayed as sheltered is just over the top. I mean, by god, she must've heard Maya talk about trains before - she got to Kurain via train, I'm sure Maya told her about the journey on the train.

:meekins: People seem to like him for some reason and I just don't see why. His bumbling-policeman routine is not funny, his lack of self-confidence is grating my nerves and the megaphone was funny the first time around. Then it got boring.

:javado: Just a sexist jerk who thinks he's all suave in talking to the ladies and calling them 'kittens'.

:ayame: She's nothing more than a Yamato Nadeshiko (typical Japanese beauty) which can be nice at times, but she just takes the cake. When she appeared on screen, she seemed to lack a backbone except for the one time when she rushed over the bridge towards the Inner Temple - otherwise, she constantly was okay with 'taking the blame' and 'letting the guys do things'.
She and Godot would be a perfect couple.

:maya: and all of her 'clones'. I believe I have said it often and lengthy enough that I don't like Maya and her 'clones'. She's too bubbly, she doesn't seem to take anything seriously - although I know GS isn't suposed to be super serious, even her sort-of seriousness during court moments feels forced and awkward.

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Yeah! Godot/Iris for the win!

*ahem* But last time I checked, I thought everyone hated Meekins? I felt like the odd one out because I am one of the few people who likes him.
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*ahem* But last time I checked, I thought everyone hated Meekins? I felt like the odd one out because I am one of the few people who likes him.


Really? I thought tons of people like him cause he's the quirky kind of policeman who means well but still screws up - Gumshoe does that, too, but he's the scruffy, rugged-up type.

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*ahem* But last time I checked, I thought everyone hated Meekins? I felt like the odd one out because I am one of the few people who likes him.


Really? I thought tons of people like him cause he's the quirky kind of policeman who means well but still screws up - Gumshoe does that, too, but he's the scruffy, rugged-up type.

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Different points of view. I've seen it on YouTube and on other parts of CR where people hate Meekins as if he were one of those mainstream singers that people hate for the sake of hating.
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Let me see...
:maya: - She's an absurdly plain character without a single personality/trait change for... huh... 3 years? I don't care if a comic-relief/secondary character is plain (like Gumshoe, Larry, Oldbag and many others) but the protagonist "closest person"... I just expected more maturity and development from her. Not to mention her childish and meaningless comments and her annoying interactions with Phoenix which I don't find funny, but simply dumb.

:godot: - "I'm sorry, I screwed up, Trite. I was feeling guilty for not being able to protect Mia, that's my single reason to fuck everything up". What kind of anti-hero/tragic hero justifies himself?

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She and Godot would be a perfect couple.


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I didn't read it all, but... Hm.

I won't comment about Wocky, Meekins, Brushel, etc as some people here did, because I just don't think these meet the point of this thread. They are barely liked, I think. At least, by me.

I also dislike Klavier. He sucks as an opponent, he wastes his chances to get at least some character development (4-3, 4-4, anyone?) and he is just this rockin' careless glimmerous fop who is just there to shine.

Also, out of the minor character, Atmey. He was fine. Nothing more. I can't help but to think he gets much more attention than he deserves.

Also, Kay. She is there for no reason other than the fact the game needs perky teenage assistant. I don't usually mind that, but in Kay's case I do.
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"I'm sorry, I screwed up, Trite. I was feeling guilty for not being able to protect Mia, that's my single reason to fuck everything up". What kind of anti-hero/tragic hero justifies himself?


Thank you, thank you, thank you, somebody who sees what I saw. Although I would more say, what kind of anti-hero would justify himself like that? But even then, I do not think that justifies anything he did and I think he likes wallowing in his misery so never attempted to fix things in any way. That's the main reason I dislike Godot... a coffee addiction with "funny" coffee talks is not enough to make a character likeable. Why do people like him so much? He's just... such a jerk, in my opinion.

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Also, Kay. She is there for no reason other than the fact the game needs perky teenage assistant.


Pretty much, yes. You could remove Kay from the game and things would barely change.

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Saying that Maya never takes anything seriously is incorrect; she acts serious in a few cases, including 1-2, 2-2, 2-4, and 3-5. Come to think of it, she only seems to act serious when she's the one in trouble......

Anyways, I've never cared for Franziscka, she always seemed to me to be the generic tsundere type of character, and the whip seems to be simply a way to entice S&M fans. I'm sorry, but it's just my opinion.
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I'm not a fan of Shi-Long Lang, even though others seem to be. He's just... boring, and his character quickly got old. I don't give a shit about him and many of his scenes were needless even though he was supposed to be filling the "prosecutor" role.

I'm also not a huge fan of Ron Delite, but I don't necessarily hate him. I just think a lot of people really like him a bit more than I can relate to.
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I also dislike Klavier. He sucks as an opponent, he wastes his chances to get at least some character development (4-3, 4-4, anyone?) and he is just this rockin' careless glimmerous fop who is just there to shine.

I dislike him as well, but I'm willing to give him a chance in Dual Destinies. Hopefully, after everything he has gone through, and with an additional year of experience, he will appear as a more refined-
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Spoiler: from the "Apollo gets a profile" thread, possible GS5 spoilers
If they're doing it like in the Japanese character profiles, Klavier will share his profile with Trucy since both have minor roles. I hope they avoid Klavier on Capcom-Unity since I still find it insulting how they marketed him only to raise a middle-finger in our face as we played the game. His appearance screams "shoehorned".
Disregard my previous statement, I dislike Klavier Gavin period.
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I'm not a fan of Shi-Long Lang, even though others seem to be. He's just... boring, and his character quickly got old. I don't give a shit about him and many of his scenes were needless even though he was supposed to be filling the "prosecutor" role.

I'm also not a huge fan of Ron Delite, but I don't necessarily hate him. I just think a lot of people really like him a bit more than I can relate to.


Wow, I thought I was the only one who didn't like Lang. I don't like him because despite the fact that he's supposed to be the ''rival'' character, he only appears in 2 out of the game's 5 cases, plus I found his wolf related metaphors to simply be a rehash of Godot's coffee related metaphors.
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I don't know if 'dislike' is the appropriate word, but I never once considered Franziska a threat, her character didn't appeal to me and she was just TOO misguided, like when she claimed her perfect record was intact even after 2-2 because the court was 'a sham'. I think she could have become a nice character if they had focused a tad more on breaking free from the Von Karma teachings, but she seems to claim perfection even after Justice for All, so I don't know. And the whip got very boring very fast.

Kay Faraday is just there. Most of the cast in Ace Attorney Investigations was forgettable, but considering that she was supposed to be the assistant, I would have expected her to have more of a purpose and personality. Also, she 'steals the truth'...what does that even mean? Oh well, it sure is convenient.

I'm surprised Iris can stand upright considering she has no spine, and she's not much better equipped in the personality department. She felt more like a giant walking plot device than anything else. Also, people seem to instantly forgive her for the things she has done for no reason other than 'hur-dur we know you're a good person so it's okay'.

If there's one character I flat out dislike (personalitywise, otherwise I'd include Spark and Regina - that creepy giant baby...) it'd be Wocky Kitaki, I just couldn't stand him.

I would include Hobo Phoenix here, but I'm not opposed to his character, just the fact that it's Phoenix. There was no need for him to become Apollo Justice's version of Kreia.
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Dahlia Hawthorne is the biggest one. I do not get why she's so hyped. Same thing goes for the entirety of T&T as well. It gave you bang for your buck but to me it's nowhere near the same level as PW:AA in storytelling.
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:mrhat: :egg: :mike-salute: :chef:
but seriously the one character I Really Dislike is
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Um, this thread is supposed to be about characters you dislike that others like. I don't think many people like Brushel, Jean Armstrong, or Mr. Hat.
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@AmethystnoHoshi Next time, make sure to mark that spoiler as a GS5 spoiler. Like this:
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Apologies if you already know how to mark spoilers, but please do so next time.

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I'm not a fan of Shi-Long Lang, even though others seem to be. He's just... boring, and his character quickly got old. I don't give a shit about him and many of his scenes were needless even though he was supposed to be filling the "prosecutor" role.

I'm also not a huge fan of Ron Delite, but I don't necessarily hate him. I just think a lot of people really like him a bit more than I can relate to.


Lang I read as he wasn't a bad character in concept but the actual writing was pathetic so we never saw anything about him to give a proper characterisation. All feeble tell-don't-show.

Yeah I don't understand people liking Ron. I don't hate him but he was kind of.. annoying.

-Can't stand Klavier. Spoiled brat who had no proper character development past it. By the end of 4-4 and all the revelations he's still just whining about how Kristoph 'cheated on their brother to brother contest', he doesn't care about ruining Phoenix OR anything actually important.

-Godot/Diego. Why is he so venerated?

-I can't stand Iris but I don't think she's a character 'everyone else likes'. A LOT of people don't like her.
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I think Lang is actually more or less the only character of interest in Ace Attorney Investigations. The only real problem I had with him was that he hated prosecutors for some really trivial reason I can't even remember right now.
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I think Lang is actually more or less the only character of interest in Ace Attorney Investigations. The only real problem I had with him was that he hated prosecutors for some really trivial reason I can't even remember right now.


What about Badd? I liked him...
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Thane wrote:
I think Lang is actually more or less the only character of interest in Ace Attorney Investigations. The only real problem I had with him was that he hated prosecutors for some really trivial reason I can't even remember right now.


What about Badd? I liked him...


He was alright, I suppose, but like the rest of the cast of that game, he was bland and forgettable. Sure, he had some good lines and moments, but I can't for the life of me remember them.

Feel free to disagree with me on this one, but I get the feeling that the writers of the spin-off try too hard (and I don't mean just with their characters, I mean overall) and fail to understand that sometimes, less is more.
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Thane wrote:
I think Lang is actually more or less the only character of interest in Ace Attorney Investigations. The only real problem I had with him was that he hated prosecutors for some really trivial reason I can't even remember right now.

It wasn't explained.
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Yet.

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Sligneris wrote:
Thane wrote:
I think Lang is actually more or less the only character of interest in Ace Attorney Investigations. The only real problem I had with him was that he hated prosecutors for some really trivial reason I can't even remember right now.

It wasn't explained.
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Yet.


It was. It was something about a corrupt prosecutor doing something that somehow affected his house in some way - and for that reason Lang now hates every single prosecutor in the entire world, which just so happens to be the protagonist's occupation.

Mindblowing stuff. Truly.
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Well, wasn't fully explained, then.
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I also dislike Klavier. He sucks as an opponent, he wastes his chances to get at least some character development (4-3, 4-4, anyone?) and he is just this rockin' careless glimmerous fop who is just there to shine.

Klavier irked me for the same reason. Although his role as prosecutor was a change from the rest, he barely felt like one. For me anyway. = v = ;; I don't mind his re-appearance in DD though. Hey, let's give this guy a chance. Hopefully he'll have a more dynamic role and use the time for character development.
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Spoiler: GS5-3
He is just there as a celebrity... No character development at all.

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Maya Fey. She's annoying and unhelpful. And just because she's not in a case doesn't mean she has to have a clone as a defense aide (Even though I liked Ema).

I'm sorry. But it's the truth.

Dude, it's called an opinion. Besides, Ema is somewhat justified as she gets more backstory and there are distinctive differences in characterisation.
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Sligneris wrote:
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He is just there as a celebrity... No character development at all.

Well, that's a bummer. I was probably getting my hopes too high. o n o"
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I never liked Iris. She was... bland.
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