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Everyone except Mia, Gregory Edgeworth, Valorie Hawthorne, Bruce Goodman, and Glen Elg. and Francise Deauxnim. (sp?)

You...you didn't feel sorry for me when I died?

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Grey, Grey...
Okay, maybe he was an ass, making work Mimi too hard, but she could always have quit the job. And no other nurse went crazy like her.
But the gun part makes me wonder. Maybe he really wanted to kill Maya if it came to that. Or maybe just threaten Mimi? As if it could have worked! Mimi didn't give a sh*t about Maya's life either.
Both are bad people. But Mimi is worse in my opinion.

Vera... okay, her attitude and appearance irritate me, but that's not enough reason to hate her for doing the forgery. She really couldn't have known. But I still don't like her.
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
kristophlover967 wrote:
Everyone except Mia, Gregory Edgeworth, Valorie Hawthorne, Bruce Goodman, and Glen Elg. and Francise Deauxnim. (sp?)

You...you didn't feel sorry for me when I died?

:larry: :larry: :larry:


I think kristophlover is saying that she did feel sorry for you when you died.

Neil Marshall isn't generating a lot of sympathy, is he? Surprising, considering he fought off a serial killer to save someone's life.
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I was focusing only the main cases, but I did feel sympathy for Neil.
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I felt really bad for Neil (and Jake by extension of the plot device.)

I suppose I was too busy hating gant to really feel for Neil.

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Payne said so in the game. Then Larry was all "WTF YOU ASS" or something.

It's a dark day for mankind when people start believing things Payne says.>_>


As for Grey, who's to say? It seems like Mimi was the only nurse on duty. At the very least, it appears she was taking on more than Grey had a right to expect of her. She also might not have had the option to simply quit. And if it was the day of the incident in particular, it would have already been too late.
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"She also might not have had the option to simply quit."

How is that possible, it's like Grey had something to blackmail her or something?
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Szabu wrote:
"She also might not have had the option to simply quit."

How is that possible, it's like Grey had something to blackmail her or something?


Or she needed the money. If she didn't have another job to go to then simply quitting may not have been a viable option and since she was working a lot of hours then she may not have had the time or energy to search for a new one. She still needed to be able to pay her bills and those she owed money to don't care that she hated her job. They want their money. Finding a job isn't usually easy unless you get really lucky. Just quitting with nothing set up to support herself is a rather stupid thing to do. After all, who knows how long it would take her to find work after she quit? She's not likely to get a good reference from Grey (her most recent employer).
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1-1: I didn't feel sorry for Cindy, but maybe it was just because she was a slut on top of a person who just died without too much information.
1-2: I didn't feel too sorry for Mia, because as soon as I saw Mia possess Maya for the first time, I knew they were going to beat that dead horse to the damned ground... Although, when you consider all of the missed opportunities she could have had, it's enough to make one feel kind of bad.
1-3: Hammer had only one motive. Getting revenge for his career: Pride. What would killing Dee solve? Nothing. Sorry, but you're better off dead. (And the fact that you framed poor Will doesn't earn you any Brownie Points.)
1-4: No, sorry. You only defend people for the money, not to mention, you made Yogi live out a unecessary lie while his life fell to ruin because of it. No regret.
1-5: Now, Goodman may have been killed by Gant to get him to shut up, but he wouldn't have been in that predicament in the first place if he was passive and just left the footwork to Angel or Jake. I also feel Angel or Jake deserved the position more than Bruce because they were keeping a closer eye on Gants schemes. He would have been undone alot sooner if Bruce followed their example. Neil on the other hand, I feel sorry for.

2-1: Apathy, although he was killed for no good reason...
2-2: I rather liked Turner Grey! I thought he was a kind of fun client, but for what it's worth, I suppose he did get what was coming to him, although there were ways around it.
2-3: Russell seemed like a nice enough guy, but if he had just raised Regina properly, Bat would still not be in a coma, and he wouldn't be dead.
2-4: Juan was one of the driving forces to getting a innocent woman to suicide. To me, that's as bad as killing her yourself. And for what reason? All because of his Masculine pride. (You're the actor of a KIDS SHOW, for gods sake.)

3-1: I felt sorry for Doug, but he could have told Phoenix a bit more indirectly.
3-2: Bullard was pretty bad, but in hindsight, Atmey killing him wasn't such a injustice, although I can't say I can forgive him for coercing Ron.
3-3: Elg? I can feel sorry for him. Just when a light shines from the tunnel of darkness, you get whacked by some animal lookin' dude.
3-4: Valerie's circumstances were just... weird. It seemed as though she was just taking advantage of Terry the whole time.
3-5: As much as I like Misty, desiring the death of an innocent 10 year old to prevent the channeling of Dahlia is just a bit outrageous... Although, I suppose it's a pity she was caught in the cross fire.


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Poisoning at the Courthouse: Didn't like Diego. Too cocky.

DL-6: Greg seemed like a good enough person. If Yogi got shot, maybe Edgey might be just a little less emo, and von Karma could have been caught a long time ago.
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1-1: "Cinder Block"... What!? It's hard to feel sympathy for someone when you can't remember their name! 1/5
1-2: Not a lot of sympathy right away. Then Trials and Tribulations happened. 2/5, then 5/5
1-3: Dude, you suck. Don't kill for a crappy reason, and don't frame Big Foot. 0/5
1-4: Kinda. I know the game portrays him as a bad man and all, but really, what should he have done in DL-6? He was as trapped case-wise as they were in the elevator. 4/5 (Bonus sympathy point for game's portrayal of him.)
1-5: A good man killed in the search for justice. Even if he was stupid about it. 3.5/5 (.5 point taken of for stupidity)

2-1: Uh, who are you again? But you were killed by your girlfriend's bad luck...3/5
2-2: It seems his last days were miserable because of that screw up. And he died trying to get his life back in shape...3/5
2-3: Over protective parent goes to far while letting daughter put head in lion's mouth...What!? 2/5
2-4: True love conquers all. Except a rivalry between actors for kids' shows, I guess. 0/5

3-1: He realized the truth, and died trying to warn someone else...4/5
3-2-Robbery: Maya was annoying. Pearl was annoying. Adrian was sympathetic...and annoying. 0/5, 0/5, 1/5
3-2-Murder: "Kane Blowhard"...What!? It's hard to-*shot for reusing arguments* And he blackmailed. And he brought back Larry...0/5
3-3: Willing to cripple the police to get out of debt when he easily could have gone to them instead...2/5 (I do feel sorry for him a little bit, though. Tigre is a scary man to owe money too.
3-4: It's too confuzling as to whether she was a good person or not. So I'll use Terry instead. Poor caveman, probably can't use Gieco...5/5
3-5: I hate this victim with a passion. And she was stupid again here. -5/5. (I was glad it happened.)

4-1: See the Zak is a Jerk Comic. They explain it better than I. 0/5
4-1: She warns me, so I kill her! Oh wait what now? Time to steal a noddle shop! 0/5
4-3: Poor guy. He was killed by a real dick head while doing his job...*shot again*
4-4: Nope! Not a thing! This victim has no redeeming qualities, and he made Phoenix lose his badge! 0/5

SL-9: I feel sorry for Neil, and also a little for [Insert the killer's name here]. He was a victim of the new justice system it seems. 5/5, 4/5.
DL-6: Damn earthquake. Damn perfectionist. Damn scream of perfectionist that caused the earthquake...5/5
What with the magicians: The old man is also a dick. 0/5
What with the magician-turned-singer: I hate her nearly as much as I hate Misty. But blindness scares me. 3/5
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1-3: Hammer had only one motive. Getting revenge for his career: Pride. What would killing Dee solve? Nothing. Sorry, but you're better off dead. (And the fact that you framed poor Will doesn't earn you any Brownie Points.)

Er, not quite. He was being forced into an acting contract he hated, and lost his Oldbag-loving stature as a great actor in classic shows. That was because of Dee. Killing her would erase all possibility of blackmail, and he could finally audition for James Bond.
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Jack Hammer. I felt bad for him for being blackmailed over something that really wasn't his fault, and I probably would have continued to feel bad for him if he didn't try to kill Dee.

Juan Corrida. Sympathy goes out the window when he not only abandons the woman he was about to marry because he cared more about hating her ex, but he even plans to use her suicide as a weapon against the guy.

Kane Bullard, but not because he was OMG horrible but because you never really got a sympathetic backstory for him. He was a blackmailer... and that was it.

Valerie Hawthorne: If she had really felt bad about what happened with Terry, she'd have said something about it sooner, before Terry was out of jail and looking to clear his name. Her actions seemed to be more "covering her own ass" than "actually caring about helping Terry."

on that note, Terry himself, if he counts as a victim: because his crush/relationship/whateverthehellitwas with Dahlia was just EWWWWWW. No sympathy for the cradle robber, and plus, it WAS his own choice. If he would have just come clean against Dahlia, then he'd have lived, and yeah, he wasn't very smart, but still. It's hard to have sympathy for someone who made himself into a victim.

Misty, if she was really prepared to kill Pearl. aaaand, haven't played Apollo Justice.
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1-1: "Cinder Block"... What!? It's hard to feel sympathy for someone when you can't remember their name! 1/5
1-2: Not a lot of sympathy right away. Then Trials and Tribulations happened. 2/5, then 5/5
1-3: Dude, you suck. Don't kill for a crappy reason, and don't frame Big Foot. 0/5
1-4: Kinda. I know the game portrays him as a bad man and all, but really, what should he have done in DL-6? He was as trapped case-wise as they were in the elevator. 4/5 (Bonus sympathy point for game's portrayal of him.)
1-5: A good man killed in the search for justice. Even if he was stupid about it. 3.5/5 (.5 point taken of for stupidity)

2-1: Uh, who are you again? But you were killed by your girlfriend's bad luck...3/5
2-2: It seems his last days were miserable because of that screw up. And he died trying to get his life back in shape...3/5
2-3: Over protective parent goes to far while letting daughter put head in lion's mouth...What!? 2/5
2-4: True love conquers all. Except a rivalry between actors for kids' shows, I guess. 0/5

3-1: He realized the truth, and died trying to warn someone else...4/5
3-2-Robbery: Maya was annoying. Pearl was annoying. Adrian was sympathetic...and annoying. 0/5, 0/5, 1/5
3-2-Murder: "Kane Blowhard"...What!? It's hard to-*shot for reusing arguments* And he blackmailed. And he brought back Larry...0/5
3-3: Willing to cripple the police to get out of debt when he easily could have gone to them instead...2/5 (I do feel sorry for him a little bit, though. Tigre is a scary man to owe money too.
3-4: It's too confuzling as to whether she was a good person or not. So I'll use Terry instead. Poor caveman, probably can't use Gieco...5/5
3-5: I hate this victim with a passion. And she was stupid again here. -5/5. (I was glad it happened.)

4-1: See the Zak is a Jerk Comic. They explain it better than I. 0/5
4-1: She warns me, so I kill her! Oh wait what now? Time to steal a noddle shop! 0/5
4-3: Poor guy. He was killed by a real dick head while doing his job...*shot again*
4-4: Nope! Not a thing! This victim has no redeeming qualities, and he made Phoenix lose his badge! 0/5

SL-9: I feel sorry for Neil, and also a little for [Insert the killer's name here]. He was a victim of the new justice system it seems. 5/5, 4/5.
DL-6: Damn earthquake. Damn perfectionist. Damn scream of perfectionist that caused the earthquake...5/5
What with the magicians: The old man is also a dick. 0/5
What with the magician-turned-singer: I hate her nearly as much as I hate Misty. But blindness scares me. 3/5


I loled hard as hell on this post.

I didn't feel sorry for:

1-4: Hammond. Alright, first off, you don't believe in your client. That's pretty messed up, considering Yogi was telling the truth about everything. Secondly, he uses a dirty trick to get Yogi off the hook. Oh yeah, fake amnesia (right? :eh?:) He was just an overall asshole in my book.

2-2: Dr. Grey was dishonorable. All's HE wanted was for the 'dead' to admit they did wrong. Grey was beating a dead horse. For that, no sympathy from me.

2-4: Juan was a real dickhead. Oh yeah, take advantage of Celeste's suicide by writing a fake note, incriminating Engarde. Who the hell would do that? A sicko, that's who. :shelly:/ :radio: FTW!

4-1: Zak Gramayre...don't get me started. He was humorous, yeah sure. But he left behind :minuki:, which was really sad. Then he ruined :phoenix:'s life once. And he tried to do it again! Seven years later. Another thing, he EVEN KNEW about the forged diary page cause he had the REAL one. I'm glad you're nothing more then a rotting corpse now, you deserved it. :zenitora:

4-2: It seemed to me that Pal couldn't admit that he failed at Wocky's surgery. Take it like a man and tell it to him straight to his face. Don't lie about it! Then to top it all off, he takes Eldoon's noodle stand. So he is a potential murderer and thief? Pfft.

4-4: Drew, you dick. You made the evidence that got :hobohodo:'s badge taken away. I don't feel sorry for you at all.
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I'm going thru everyone.
Cindy Stone: She may have been a cheating prostitute, but that don't mean she deserved to die. And, with all due respect, it WAS Larry Butz.
Mia Fey, I really cant say one way or another, you see her a lot.
Jack Hammer: I understand he was angry about working for peanuts, but that don't condone his actions, especially framing Will Powers, who had nothing to do with his situation.
Manuel: Felt sorry for him. I think Hammer purposly shoved him on the fence, though it can't be proven.
Robert Hammond: I think he's a scumbag. What he did to Yogi was inexcusable. A very selfish man.
Gregory Edgeworth: I still don't get why he didn't know Manfred shot him, but I still was sorry for him.
Goodman: He was in the wrong place at the right time. Felt bad.
5 Joe Darke victims & Neil Marshall: It was horrible how they died, Neil in particular.
Joe Darke: I have no sympathy for him. He deserved death.
Dustin: Same as Goodman.
Dr. Grey: I think he was a bad boss, and gave me the finger. That don't deserve death though. Still, I say I don't feel sorry.
Ini: I felt bad for the real Ini Miney.
14 patients: see Ini
Russell Barry: I'm sorry, I can`t feel sorry for him. He was a good person, but the stars thing was a bit over the edge. And why didn't HE stop Bat?
Bat: I feel sorry for him being in a coma, but he should of known better than to put his head in Leon's mouth.
Leon: I felt sorry for him knowing he didn't purposly bite Bat. It also wasn't Leon's fault everyone was stupid.
Juan Corrdia: I think he is a scoundrel. It could of easily been him who hired De Killer. Forging a falsified suicide note, and canceling the wedding because Enguarde once dated his girl, is just more proof.
Celeste: I can't feel sorry for her. She should of left her job if she wanted to get away than commit suicide.
Doug Swallow: I felt bad. I'm glad he told Wright the truth before he died.
Bullard: Scoundrel.
Glen. Didn't seem like a bad man. It wasn't his fault Tigre used MC Bomber. But let this be a lesson, don't gamble too much.
Valerie: While she did the right thing at the end, she showed no remorse for putting Terry on Death Row.
Terry: He didn't do anything wrong. It wasn't his fault his girlfriend was a bitch.
Elise: I don't think she knew the whole exstient of Godot's plan, just most of it.
Godot/Diego: I felt bad for the poisoning, but him even thinking of killing a 7 year old girl is wrong.
Zak: Zak Gramreye is a Jerk. At least send money to your child, for heaven sake.
Pal Mekritas: I despise this man. I don't feel sorry for him a single bit. Stealing Eldoon's business, strangling Altia, and especially leaving a bullet in Wocky makes him my most hated victim.
Romein: It was too bad what happened to him.
Drew: What he did to his daughter forcing her to forge things is unforgivable.
Magnifi: He was a terrible man, what he did to his students was wrong.
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