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Keeping with the theory, Gregory and Misty probably didn't have a lot of contact (and if they did it probably wouldn't be full of legal gossip). Also keep in mind that there are attorneys, and then there are civilians. While von Karma may have been a famous prosecutor, he probably wasn't so well-known amongst the general public (Misty is even less than the general public, likely, because of her home's remote location). Add to that that von Karma is also German, so he wouldn't be as recognizable in the States anyway.

I suppose that would work. I still wince at the idea of Misty handing off ANYONE to Von Karma, regardless if they were her child or not. Guess it just adds to the ANGSTY PAST concept.

I suppose I just had a different head canon, but VK in my head is rather well known. I pictured him being in America for a while. *shrug*
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So how do the Japanese names compare? (If there's already similarity between Mia and Maya's, that is... Don't remember offhand)


Unfortunately there is no connection between their Japanese names.

Ami= Kyouko
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Marshmello, this theory is amazing!
Oh, and I was looking through the pics you posted, and the picture of young, 3-4 Edgey looks EXACTLY like Larry's photo of Elise-Misty. It's scary.

Whoever asked for the Japanese names:
Mia - Chihiro
Maya - Mayoi
Misty - Maiko
Pearl - Harumi
Morgan - Kimiko
Ami - Kyouko
Miles - Reiji

Hmm...perhaps the theory was only developed after the GBA games came out? They are farely old.

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I thought so too, that's why I posted them. If you try not to think about the possibility of Gregory budding, you can actually find a lot of resemblances between Edgeworth and, not just Misty, but the Feys in general. I posted the picture of DL-6 Miles because I can personally see a lot of Fey in him.

To recap so you guys don't have to go digging through my jumbo post:
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And this 'theory' was probably never even considered by the writers of the series. I might have mentioned it before, but in the games Edgeworth didn't have a mother simply because she wouldn't work, plotwise. She had no part in the story, so they just left her out.

That's what's great about being a fan, though: You get to find all the things that the writers missed, and they actually work.
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Edit: Sorry, Tuesday! My bad!

It's all right, never mind. :edgy:


OMG Marshmello,I came in this thread thinking the authority is totally insane, but now I'm really seriously considering the possibility!Image
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:redd: I'm glad I could convert you!

To be honest, I just noticed a couple of coincidences a few weeks ago and thought "Hey, what if...?" I wasn't really taking any of this seriously either until recently.

But I'm playing 2-2 again and I'm afraid I might have to shoot down my Magatama theory. I thought that it had only been implied, but Pearl specifically tells you that "Only you can see the Psyche-Locks, Mr Nick" (and when you see Mia's Psyche-Lock, Nick says "That's right... only I can see the Psyche-Lock"). But that raises the question of how Edgeworth was able to use the Magatama in the first place.

New theory: In all of its mystical coolness, the Magatama can somehow 'sense' its owner. Maya first owned it, but since it wasn't charged it didn't react to her. Pearl charged it and gave it to Phoenix, so he became the Magatama's 'owner' and was able to use its power. In 3-5, Phoenix gave it to Edgeworth, making Edgeworth the 'owner' and he was able to use it until he returned it.

That being said, my old Magatama theory could still hold: To be the Magatama's 'owner' one must either believe in the Kurain Channelling Technique or be of Fey blood. Edgeworth clearly does not meet the first requirement, so if we pretend enough, he must meet the second.
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This topic is GENIUS. I tried to tell my friend Sklarvv the same thing the other day, and then she asked a bunch of her friends and they said Karma/Gregory was much more likely then Gregory/Misty. D8 But I think it ties up all the lose ends in a plot.

After all, Capcom usually /tries/ to tie up loose ends in a plot. But then again, no focus was ever placed on his mommy. I figured it was eith Misty, or another person from Kurian. It was the only thing that could make sense. ^^ Glad some people share this opinion.
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This is actually a good theory. If you think about it, Edgeworth does look a lot like Misty Fey. But you would think then that Morgan might recognise him. Or, at least his name. That is, assuming she knew who the prosecutor in Maya's first trail was. And there is the chance Morgan recognised him or Edgeworth's dad from the D-L6 incident, assuming she knew who the victim or the victims child was.
I hope that actually made sense. But it's still a good theory. There are just some loopholes. But, that's what a fandom's for.
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That's a nice theory and pretty much acceptable...Hmm imagine if that's right, then poor Edgeypoo is all alone now :(
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But you would think then that Morgan might recognise him. Or, at least his name.

:yuusaku: I don't think Morgan and Edgeworth have any contact in the games. Edgey was still 'dead' in 2-2, and Morgan doesn't actually appear in 3-5 because she's in jail. Edgeworth wouldn't have much of a reason to visit Morgan, and Morgan doesn't have much of a reason to have any sort of interest in Edgeworth, because he's male.

Unless... (I'm having a thought here)... she was watching him to make sure that he didn't have any children, because that would be continuing the main family line and lessen Pearl's chances of becoming the Master.

Damn, that's creepy. :beef:
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sushi-san wrote:
This is actually a good theory. If you think about it, Edgeworth does look a lot like Misty Fey. But you would think then that Morgan might recognise him. Or, at least his name. That is, assuming she knew who the prosecutor in Maya's first trail was. And there is the chance Morgan recognised him or Edgeworth's dad from the D-L6 incident, assuming she knew who the victim or the victims child was.
I hope that actually made sense. But it's still a good theory. There are just some loopholes. But, that's what a fandom's for.


Edgeworth and Morgan never met in JFA OR T&T, so how would she "recognize" him? Maybe his name, but then again, Morgan didint even recognize Mia.

(Proven when you present Mia's profile to Morgan in 2-2)
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Okay. That's a good point. But, it's just speculation.
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Uh oh... more Edgeworth/Fey similarities.
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I think there are two possibilities:

1. The writers unknowingly provided enough evidence to make this arguement hold water.

2. The writer's did this on purpose and will reveal this plot twist in GK (Perfect Prosecutor).
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I think Choice One seems more likely of a call C: A lot of theories about parents have been made but there is no canonized proof via script. Most of these things are very unintentional.
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Ayasato-chan wrote:
2. The writer's did this on purpose and will reveal this plot twist in GK (Perfect Prosecutor).

As much as I would love Capcom forever if they did that, it isn't likely. I'm pretty sure GK takes place during the first game, and there really isn't anywhere that it would fit.

We can still hope though :edgy:
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I think GK takes place after T&T. Tuesday translated the magazine and it said it would take place during GS3 (also known as T&T). So I'm a bit unsure when it is going to take place, but Tuesday's translation is making people wonder when it exactly takes place- between 1-3 and 1-4 or after T&T when Edgeworth comes back to America.
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:butz: Augh, this is so confusing!

Hopefully it'll take place after 3-5, because doing it before then would really limit their options. Plus after 3-5 is when it's most likely that Edgey's genealogy will be revealed :butzthumbs:

Those sprites I posted are out of sync... they're sort of fun to watch. I have no life.
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Option two would be the best thing ever and win me a bet with my friend. Sadly, I'm not convincing myself it is the truth (besides, all the Edgey/Maya shippers out there would be like PAINNNNN)

But ah well. It's fun to make up headcanon for this, since both Greg and Misty are pretty open to creation personality wise and such.
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:gregory: + (insert Misty icon here). This is actually one shop I really do approve of. It'd make the character universe even closer related!
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:knock-knock: Whoops... forgot about this thread for a while...

MercuryKitten wrote:
It's fun to make up headcanon for this, since both Greg and Misty are pretty open to creation personality wise and such.

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:gregory: + (insert Misty icon here). This is actually one shop I really do approve of. It'd make the character universe even closer related!

I think :gregory: / :misty: (why isn't there a Misty emote?) is my new OTP after Cindy/Larry :edgy: It doesn't even count as fancrack anymore, because I think we've proved the possibility of their relationship beyond reasonable doubt.

:nick: It's actually a lot more likely than some of the other pairings people support around here...
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I was awake most of last night thinking of this, and it's really, really possible. I like it :redd: ! Also, there's a possibility that Morgan's husband left after Gregory, because he was afraid the same would happen to him.
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Marshmello wrote:
: :nick: It's actually a lot more likely than some of the other pairings people support around here...

True enough!

I think however that she could have at least gotten a newspaper clipping of Miles or something... unless she shared the same kind prejudice against males that most of the village has? OR even if she didn't feel that way, the family could could have disapproved of the relationship and then she had a son and well that just wouldn't for the for future master of the Kurian technique. Kind of like Henry the VIII and his wives not producing male heirs. It's kind of far-fetched but considering it's the Feys we're talking about, you never know.
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Also, there's a possibility that Morgan's husband left after Gregory, because he was afraid the same would happen to him.

That's a good point. We already know that all the Fey men leave because of the 'stigma' of their gender in Fey tradition, which we could assume is why Gregory left. Morgan's husband (I hate having to say that over and over... let's call him Bob) could have seen Greg flee with Miles, and when he realized that Morgan was an evil bitch who was of no use to him, he followed suit because he's stupid and unoriginal.

.... Oh wait.

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OR even if she didn't feel that way, the family could could have disapproved of the relationship and then she had a son and well that just wouldn't for the for future master of the Kurian technique. Kind of like Henry the VIII and his wives not producing male heirs. It's kind of far-fetched but considering it's the Feys we're talking about, you never know.

Also a good point. Kurain obviously runs on a different set of rules, principles, and traditions than the rest of the country, and really the only indications we have of these are that they live in a female-based society, and to head this society is a highly regarded and sought-after title, which leads to a lot of tension and corruption within the family.

We are only introduced to two lines of Feys (Misty's line and Morgans), but there are obvious far more Feys than just those seven women. These unseen villagers could have used Gregory as an excuse to give Misty the boot, and for political reasons he and Miles would have to leave. Then, perhaps Morgan would have realized that Bob was crippling her chances at becoming or producing a Master, and pressured him to leave as well.

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Hopefully Edgey's game tells all.

I couldn't agree more. Maybe that new character they keep showing pictures of is really a Fey, or Morgan will somehow return with a vengeance now that Maya's officially the Master of Kurain (if GK really does take place after 3-5). I still think that there's a possibility of Morgan spying on Edgeworth, to ensure that he doesn't continue the main family line.
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If Misty is Edgey's mom... And if Phoenix married Iris... Edgey and Phoenix would be related. :O

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If Misty is Edgey's mom... And if Phoenix married Iris... Edgey and Phoenix would be related. :O


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This is a good theory indeed. After reading the whole thread, I can't think of a loose end now, as I was the master of 'Kingdom Hearts theories that made sense' some months ago.

Now, I'm gonna make a random comic of this. Kthxbai.

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Leo wrote:
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If Misty is Edgey's mom... And if Phoenix married Iris... Edgey and Phoenix would be related. :O


That just makes it cooler.


That would throw all the :edgy: x :phoenix: theories out the window, if you think about it. And I'm sure a great number of people on this forum would be terribly disappointed.

Isn't it not very often, though that the women of the Kurain tradition get married? I see Iris as being single for the rest of her life. I don't think she would get married after the sheltered life she lived up in the mountains. She may bear a child or two passing down the blood of the branch family but I don't see a guy entering her life doing much more than that.

If Misty was Edgey's mom, that would cause even more hurt for Edgey.

Spoiler: 3-5
Because he was there shortly after her murder. and not only that, but it would be the second parent that he had lost. We all know there was nothing he could do since Edgey was on the other side of the globe when it happened, but he would still beat himself up about it. That's just how Edgey is. It's fun to fantasize and make theories, but I'm kinda glad they left this one out of the mix for that reason. The poor guy... Seriously. From all he's been through, I understand why he left that note "Miles Edgeworth chooses death." As sad as it is, I can see him committing suicide after he learns who Misty really is, assuming that Gregory + Misty = Miles. He may have made some progress in learning to cope, but even then people regress and if something terrible happens, things only get worse. I know this from personal experience.

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If Misty was Edgey's mom, that would cause even more hurt for Edgey.

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Because he was there shortly after her murder. and not only that, but it would be the second parent that he had lost. We all know there was nothing he could do since Edgey was on the other side of the globe when it happened, but he would still beat himself up about it. That's just how Edgey is. It's fun to fantasize and make theories, but I'm kinda glad they left this one out of the mix for that reason. The poor guy... Seriously. From all he's been through, I understand why he left that note "Miles Edgeworth chooses death." As sad as it is, I can see him committing suicide after he learns who Misty really is, assuming that Gregory + Misty = Miles. He may have made some progress in learning to cope, but even then people regress and if something terrible happens, things only get worse. I know this from personal experience.

I'm not so sure about that. Keeping with the theory, Edgey wouldn't know that Misty was his mom. He's probably be thinking "Aw crap, Mom's dead" (okay no, notrly), but in truth it wouldn't really change anything. Imagine someone telling you that you're distant cousin who you've never met has just died -- just because you're related doesn't mean that you have to go emo over their death.
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I'm thinking that if Edgey found out that Misty was his mom, he would freak once he figured out he was related to Dahlia (sp?).
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Sudden thought.

Spoiler: 1-2/3-5
If you think to 3-5, when Pearl is channeling Dahlia, she needed a photo to see who she had to channel. We know it was Misty who channeled Gregory, so she'd need to know what he looked like. If we say she didn't have a TV in Kurain (and assume she didn't read the newspaper), then she'd either need a photo, or she could know what Gregory looked like anyway. If we assume enough, this is a possibility.

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I'm not so sure about that, serpensortia. I mean, he wouldn't be happy about it, but Edgey and Dahlia don't have any relationship development in the series. He knows she's an evil bitch, but that's about it.

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Sudden thought.

Spoiler: 1-2/3-5
If you think to 3-5, when Pearl is channeling Dahlia, she needed a photo to see who she had to channel. We know it was Misty who channeled Gregory, so she'd need to know what he looked like. If we say she didn't have a TV in Kurain (and assume she didn't read the newspaper), then she'd either need a photo, or she could know what Gregory looked like anyway. If we assume enough, this is a possibility.

It could work, but the police department probably just provided the photo.

And Samurai: If you have nothing to contribute to this discussion, don't post here. I don't care if you disagree with this theory, but if you're just going to say "I hate this" and you aren't going to back it up, don't bother. I would honestly love it if you did say why you disagreed with this, because it could give us more to talk about.
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CharleyPlant wrote:
Sudden thought.

Spoiler: 1-2/3-5
If you think to 3-5, when Pearl is channeling Dahlia, she needed a photo to see who she had to channel. We know it was Misty who channeled Gregory, so she'd need to know what he looked like. If we say she didn't have a TV in Kurain (and assume she didn't read the newspaper), then she'd either need a photo, or she could know what Gregory looked like anyway. If we assume enough, this is a possibility.


It's entirely possible, assuming the police didn't give her a video.
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You know, I think I found a little more evidence, but it's a little shakey:

Spoiler: GS1 Case 1-4
Grossberg said "[Gregory Edgeworth] may have had one student. Mia Fey, your sister, Maya.


It only proves a slight connection, but maybe Gregory knew of some sort of relation between them. I just happened to notice this while playing through GS1 last night for the first time in forever.
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