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For clarification, I'm not saying there is going to be an anime. I'm just saying "what if?"

I saw some random chatter throughout different boards, and some questions came up in my mind.

First, what about the actual storyline? Would they follow the cases exactly, or would they take some liberties and make up their own? Are there specific cases that need to be kept? Are there specific characters that need to be kept (besides the obvious main characters)?

If one was created, and everyone outside of the Japanese-speaking world were lucky enough to get a dub, what companies would you prefer did it? What about naming schemes, and the translation of the title itself?

What about music? Would re-edited versions of the game music be okay, or would original compositions be best? What about the "opening theme"? Any ideas for what song out there could work? Or should it, too, be original?

Overall, this is just a thread for the fans of the series to just tell the world what their dream Ace Attorney anime would consist of.

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Long story short: I don't mind of they take some liberties, as long as they are able to lead up to at least the ending case of each game. 1-2 needs to be kept...there are probably other cases like it, as well. As long as the dub is good (I'm fine with, like, ADV or FUNimation), I will watch it...but I'll still do what I can to watch the original. I just don't want it to be cheesy. They'll probably translate the names into their English counterparts, just to make things simple, and I would love to see some of the game music make it to the screen.

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As long as 4 kids doesn't dub it, it somewhat goes with the games, and the music is remixed themes from the game im happy.
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They need to keep cases like 1-2, 1-4, 1-5, 2-2 (Pearls! ... well, they could introduce her another way, but ...) 2-4, and 3-5. Having 3-3 would be awesome...in my opinion, anyway. It'd also be cool if they made some cases of their own. I don't know. :yogi:

I think I'd really like it if FUNimation dubbed it. I personally enjoyed their dub of DBZ and stuff... I don't know much, however. I wouldn't mind if the title of the series turned out to be 'Turnabout Trial' or 'Phoenix Wright'... I like both.

I'd love for them to keep the music in it. Maybe kind of orchestra-style, but ... maybe ... I'm not sure. The music is great, I don't really want any new put in, unless needed. But you never really know, it might turn out to be cool if there's any original music put in.

For me, I'm really wondering about how their voices would be ... would it be in the same, as in the commercials..? Or those promo-thingies, don't know how they're called. :eh?: (... Actually, was there even a difference?) For example, the one where Gumshoe is accusing Maya of taking his steak in court. Somehow it turns into a discussion about the DS ... I really liked their voices there.

If it's ever dubbed into English... oh, where do I start. In my head, Phoenix has a unique voice. I don't know how to really explain it. Not unique unique, but it was... young; somewhat naive. Not that deep or rough. But not too high pitched. Kind, but serious, and could pull off that cynical, sarcastic side of Phoenix's. I know describing a voice in this fashion is confusing, but I can't do it any other way. 'Cause I fail.

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Alright, here go my ideas:
* 1-2 needs to be addressed entirely, detail by detail.
* ALL cases from the games MUST be addressed, especially 2-4 and 3-5 on possibly two- or three-part specials.
* Creative liberties may be taken to make cases more interesting.
* The original game design team MUST be part of the production staff in order to crank out original cases for filler episodes that don't turn out to be pure crap.
* The opening song could be a remix of the AA1 Objection music (the remix made by Magical Trick Society would be awesome, as well as a rock-oriented remastering of the song).
* The series would need to be at the very least 26 episodes long, to cram all the cases from the first three AA games and still have some breathing space.
* Phoenix should be voiced by Nojima Kenji. Other actors are accepted, but Kenji's my personal pick.
* Hitomi (Suzuri Minagi, Mihato Uesugi, Primula, Akiha in Melty Blood) or Kikuko Inoue (Mizuho Kazami, Belldandy, Cécile Croomy, Sanae Furukawa, Yayoi Sanzenin, Kasumi Tendo) would work beautifully as Mia.
* Aya Hirano (Misa Amane, Lumière, Konata Izumi, Haruhi Suzumiya) or Mai Nakahara (Nagisa Furukawa, Rena Ryuugu, Yuna Konnyaku, May Wong, Teana Lanster, Mai Tokiha, Midori Kasugano, Asami Hoshino, Miina Miyafuji, Anna Aoi, Aono Moriyama, Noi Kasahara) should voice Maya. Both have very different voice tones, and both can imprint very different, yet lovely alike, personalities in the character.


...That's all I can think of for now. I'll probably add more stuff later.
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What I'm wondering is if they would try to help us follow the logic like in the games (by showing us documents in detail, and so on) or if it's going to be Phoenix pulling stuff out of the air.
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to be honest if there was an anime I would rather have both the Japanese and English dub instead of just japanese with subtitles. One of the key points to the game is all the little references to western culture that we get in the english language version, as Japanese subs would be a direct translation, many of the jokes would be lost on western fans. That said the voice actors would have to be good.
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Oh, I would love and English dub, definitely. I wonder how the jokes would work, though...sometimes, it's harder in anime to pull of some of the jokes, I think (usually because there's some funny animation associated with it...who knows).

I wish I could think of some seiyuus/VAs, but I'm pulling a complete blank right now. All I can say is that I would love to see the people who do the TGS special things to come back for an anime.

Man...there are three people, and only three people, I REALLY want to see animated: Phoenix, Miles, and Apollo. <333333 So, if both titular characters get to shine in some way in an anime, Lord knows they better do those three WRIGHT.
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Uuugh....unfortunately...here's my belief.

They CAN'T do the game cases. That would completely eliminate the selling point of all the games. Someone couldn't watch the anime, say "Hey! This is awesome!" and buy the game as a result, because they could never get the full effect of the cases. (and for some people, vice versa)

...and that SUCKS, because me and so many others like the original cases enormously! There are a lot of fill-in-the-blank moments I'd love to see made into full animation, like, say, the scene where Lana comes into her office to find Darke, Ema, and Marshall (dead), then gets help from Gant. Not to mention 2-4 would have people in Japan glued wide-eyed to their TVs for the full half-hour.

That's why they've been making new cases for the manga. It also gives them a chance to create more intricate contradictions that can't easily be found by the player. As much as I hate to say it, the only option really available is to create entirely new cases. The only plausibility I can think of is to recreate the same PLOT, but with completely different murder scene/method/evidence etc.
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It is plausible


Court records are currently trying to make a fan based project anime on it, so I think that'll be good or as close as you're going to get thus far.


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I agree with the original cases deal. The characters from the game cases could make cameos, or maybe have new roles, but for the most part, I think the cases themselves would have to be entirely remade. Though, if it did keep the characters, there would be a possibility of exploring them. Some big changes I'd personally make are:

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-The murderers from the games wouldn't be murderers. They'd appear, and some of the key villains would still be as mean as they were in the games, but they wouldn't be criminals.
-As a result of the above, some of the "nicer" criminals would be good guys. Come on, look me in the eye and tell me that Gant, Atmey and Kristoph as good guys wouldn't be epic.
-Gregory Edgeworth was killed by a generic criminal. A nameless bankrobber or something. That way, Manfred isn't implicated, but he'd still have raised Miles to be a prosecutor.
-Dahlia and Iris would probably be merged into a single character. (still named Dahlia even though she'd be a good guy, just to avoid game spoilers)

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Aw, man...and I really wanted to see some of the original cases, too...

Although, I do agree with the idea of some of the original characters appearing, but not in their original roles.

Is there an example we can pull from where a game that was so plot-focused like Ace Attorney was turned into an anime? I'm not really a gamer, so I don't know these things. How did the adaptation work?
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Uuugh....unfortunately...here's my belief.

They CAN'T do the game cases. That would completely eliminate the selling point of all the games. Someone couldn't watch the anime, say "Hey! This is awesome!" and buy the game as a result, because they could never get the full effect of the cases. (and for some people, vice versa)

That's why they've been making new cases for the manga. It also gives them a chance to create more intricate contradictions that can't easily be found by the player. As much as I hate to say it, the only option really available is to create entirely new cases. The only plausibility I can think of is to recreate the same PLOT, but with completely different murder scene/method/evidence etc.


This, and this:

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I agree with the original cases deal. The characters from the game cases could make cameos, or maybe have new roles, but for the most part, I think the cases themselves would have to be entirely remade.



The only bad thing is then it'll be really hard to fit in Franny and Godot, considering they are so intricately tied to the game storyline.

I imagine the OP will be something like that fan-made OP on youtube (the one that's to the ending to that anime I can't remember... someone else put it to a song and called it "One Fine Objection Day", so you can find it that way) Except it won't be as spoilerish, and there might be diff openings for diff season (so all the JFA and T&T ppl wouldn't be there initially)

Any dubing companies besides 4Kids will do. The only one I know of is FUNimation, really :oops:

As for music, mostly game music, but remixed and played by an orchestra/band/whatever; basically game music, but with normal, not game, quality.

It'll either be called "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (the anime)", "Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney (the anime)" if they are going to have it focus on one, otherwise "Ace Attorney (the anime)". For Japan, it'll prolly just be "Gyakuten Saiban the Anime" xD
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I almost hope that they'll directly translate "Gyakuten Saiban" and call it "Turnabout Trial" or "Turnabout Courtroom" if it were to be dubbed. I dunno why, exactly, but it would just make a distinction.

Or...well...Ace Attorney - The TV Series. I've seen "The TV Series" under different anime (D.N.Angel, for example), so maybe we could make it work for this.
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I almost hope that they'll directly translate "Gyakuten Saiban" and call it "Turnabout Trial" or "Turnabout Courtroom" if it were to be dubbed. I dunno why, exactly, but it would just make a distinction.


They haven't done that yet, so I doubt they're going to do that =\

At least not 'Turnabout Courtroom'. It sounds choppy, and a bit like Engrish. Perhaps something with 'Turnabout Trial', but again, I doubt it.
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I believe if there was an anime, the cases that should be kept would be anything that was story changing. Stuff like Phoenix's first case, Mia's death and Maya's introduction, etc. Any other filler cases would be okay with me. As much as I like solving murder cases, it'd be interesting to see a case that didn't really involve murder. It's fun to see something new!
As for dubbing... I'll be happy if it's not 4Kids.
It would be cool if the original music was remixed and used. The music could be used from AA or T&T... The JFA music wasn't all too appealing... well, to me at least. I could imagine the opening either being something upbeat or dramatic.
As for Japanese seiyuus, there are a lot of good ones. I'm not all to knowledgeable on them though.
And for the last note, it should be at least 25 episodes. It should be long but not too long to the point where it's hard to keep up.
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They may use some themes from the games as background themes / insert themes. I mean the Super Mario Bros. anime movie (which is now super rare, even when it was first released in Japan, I suggest The Mushroom Kingdom if you want to read up more) did just that, and the themes matched almost perfectly with the flow of the movie.

As for featured cases, I can see them trying to solve it in the way the characters from Detective Conan (did I get that right?) would. I don't see it as a long running series, but if they did it similar to Detective Conan then I could see it as a series. It would probably just be an OVA or a movie.
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I believe if there was an anime, the cases that should be kept would be anything that was story changing. Stuff like Phoenix's first case, Mia's death and Maya's introduction, etc. Any other filler cases would be okay with me. As much as I like solving murder cases, it'd be interesting to see a case that didn't really involve murder. It's fun to see something new!


I suspect (assuming that they actually do an anime) that they will do it like the manga, where it starts off once Mia is dead and Maya is introduced.
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WHY would the thought of 4kids dubbing it come to mind? GS/AA is not something that appeals to the younger demographic.
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WHY would the thought of 4kids dubbing it come to mind? GS/AA is not something that appeals to the younger demographic.


Because they'll make it into something that appeals to the younger demographic :larry:
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WHY would the thought of 4kids dubbing it come to mind? GS/AA is not something that appeals to the younger demographic.


They managed to pull One Piece off with the violence and cursing, what's to stop them from doing GS?
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Yeah. This is what would happen.

Opening Scene:
Two people are standing across from each other....
[Scene Missing]
Phoenix: Yay! New case!
Maya: Let's go check out the--
[Scene Missing]
Judge: We will now begin the trial for some random guy.
Edgey: The prosecution is ready, Your Honor.
Phoenix: The defense is ready, Your Honor.
Judge: Very well. Will the prosecution please call their first witness?
Edgey: The prosecution calls Detective Dan Gumshoe to the stand. Please state your name and occupation.
Gumshoe: My name is Gumshoe. I'm a detective.
Edgey: Please give your testimony.
Gumshoe: Okay, in this--
[Scene Missing]
Judge: Mr. Wright, you may begin your cross examination.
Gumshoe: Okay, in this--
[Scene Missing]
Phoenix: Objection! There is a contradiction in this testimony, you see--
[Scene Missing]
Judge: I find the defendant not guilty.

THE END.


Silly creators and translators. People don't die (I mean, really!) and the name 'Dick' is much too graphic. Don't you think this version is so much nicer? ^_^
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Yeah. This is what would happen.

Opening Scene:
Two people are standing across from each other....
[Scene Missing]
Phoenix: Yay! New case!
Maya: Let's go check out the--
[Scene Missing]
Judge: We will now begin the trial for some random guy.
Edgey: The prosecution is ready, Your Honor.
Phoenix: The defense is ready, Your Honor.
Judge: Very well. Will the prosecution please call their first witness?
Edgey: The prosecution calls Detective Dan Gumshoe to the stand. Please state your name and occupation.
Gumshoe: My name is Gumshoe. I'm a detective.
Edgey: Please give your testimony.
Gumshoe: Okay, in this--
[Scene Missing]
Judge: Mr. Wright, you may begin your cross examination.
Gumshoe: Okay, in this--
[Scene Missing]
Phoenix: Objection! There is a contradiction in this testimony, you see--
[Scene Missing]
Judge: I find the defendant not guilty.

THE END.


Silly creators and translators. People don't die (I mean, really!) and the name 'Dick' is much too graphic. Don't you think this version is so much nicer? ^_^


And this is exactly what would happen of 4kids got a hold of it. Exactly. XD Then again, I don't think they're really doing anime anymore. I mean, they gave up Pokemon, for goodness sake.

If the anime were to ever air on TV in America, I'd wanna see it on Adult Swim or something. Toonami is way too shounen-fighty-battley, so no.
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The last cases need to be kept. (i.e. 1-4, paired with 1-2, 1-5, 2-4, 3-5 (with 3-4). 4-4 was quite lame. The famous "Zak Gramarye is a jerk" is what made me like it.)
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Yeah but I don't think usual kids would think "YAEYZ COURTROOM AWESOME" compared to One Piece's "YAEYZ PIRATES AWESOME". So yeah. No touchie.

Then other studios are pretty much dead more recently too... Geneon... ADV...

Mainstream wise Funimation and BangZoom/Bandai are the last ones left. (I know there was another...)

Otherwise they can take the normal approach and use actual professionals like in normal western animation/video games and see where it takes...
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Yeah but I don't think usual kids would think "YAEYZ COURTROOM AWESOME" compared to One Piece's "YAEYZ PIRATES AWESOME". So yeah. No touchie.



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Watatata~! wrote:
Yeah but I don't think usual kids would think "YAEYZ COURTROOM AWESOME" compared to One Piece's "YAEYZ PIRATES AWESOME". So yeah. No touchie.



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That made me laugh and facepalm at the same time. I worry for the future of the GS franchise.
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It would be nice, but I don't really see this game becoming a good anime.

I think it would become one of those, "One monster per episode" animes, in which every episode the protagonist faces a challenge, accomplishes it, and rides off into the sunset victoriously. No story development, no point. ( Also, most video-game to anime series contain a mere 13 episodes at the most. 13 episodes of that would be pointless.)

I know this game is a court game, but I would much prefer seeing this as a drama, with more in-depth looks at people's stories; with some cases, of course. Maybe it's because I just find courts dreadfully boring (Which makes me wonder why I even like Phoenix Wright in the first place) But they would still keep the humor obviously.

Oh I adore comedy anime, but I'm much more a fan of sci-fi, and action. If they were to make an anime, they would absolutely need to add in some violent scenes. Action scenes? Doubt that will happen. This game doesn't seem fit for it. I, for one, cannot see THIS happening.

:odoroki: *runs behind pillar being sprayed by bullets* (only has one bullet in his gun left and no more clips*
:garyuu: Don't be foolish Justice, you know you can't hide forever.
:odoroki: UGH! *does a barrel roll and shoots Kristoph with his last bullet* *misses*
:garyuu: *does super fast move and ends up behind :odoroki: because he's a super-mega-awesome vampire-demon thing* Too slow. *stabs Apollo through the heart causing him to cough blood, then licks knife all devilishly*
:odoroki: YOU..bastard.. *BLARGH I'M DEAD*
:minuki: POLLY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

So, I don't think an anime is a good idea. But if it were to happen, I would watch it. Would it be awesome? I highly doubt it.
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I, for one, cannot see THIS happening.

:odoroki: *runs behind pillar being sprayed by bullets* (only has one bullet in his gun left and no more clips*
:garyuu: Don't be foolish Justice, you know you can't hide forever.
:odoroki: UGH! *does a barrel roll and shoots Kristoph with his last bullet* *misses*
:garyuu: *does super fast move and ends up behind :odoroki: because he's a super-mega-awesome vampire-demon thing* Too slow. *stabs Apollo through the heart causing him to cough blood, then licks knife all devilishly*
:odoroki: YOU..bastard.. *BLARGH I'M DEAD*
:minuki: POLLY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo


That would make sense....if Apollo were a policeman...but he's a defense attorney. :knock-knock:

Given the law is one of the most boring things ever, I doubt that we'd have an anime series based on it. And besides, PW is still a 'niche' game series (unlike, say Pokemon).
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That would make sense....if Apollo were a policeman...but he's a defense attorney. :knock-knock:



Yeah I know. I just wanted to make that an.."action type" scenario, regardless of occupation. I'm sure the last thing we'd see Apollo do is do backflips off of buildings, landing on his feet, and shooting whatever the hell he feels like.

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Given the law is one of the most boring things ever, I doubt that we'd have an anime series based on it. And besides, PW is still a 'niche' game series (unlike, say Pokemon).


Though I agree with the latter, I wouldn't be so quick to say the first thing. There have been animes about freaking football, tennis, and.. ....I can't think of anything aside from sports..but I'm sure there is an anime with an extremely uninteresting genre that came to be.
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Yeah I know. I just wanted to make that an.."action type" scenario, regardless of occupation. I'm sure the last thing we'd see Apollo do is do backflips off of buildings, landing on his feet, and shooting whatever the hell he feels like.
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I personally wished it'll be a new original case. If they used the old existing cases, won't that hurt the game sales? If you've known the ending of 4-4, playing the game wouldn't be as fun.
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It'd have to be original cases. Make it a separate continuity so that we don't have to worry about jamming it into the game timeline. This would also mean more creative freedom with the characters. Make the cases set up just like in the game: one episode would equal one in-game chapter, roughly anyway. And for gods sake get some writers who actually know how to write an engaging mystery. That manga that's scanned on CR is mind-numbingly boring.

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Though I agree with the latter, I wouldn't be so quick to say the first thing. There have been animes about freaking football, tennis, and.. ....I can't think of anything aside from sports..but I'm sure there is an anime with an extremely uninteresting genre that came to be.


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Given the law is one of the most boring things ever, I doubt that we'd have an anime series based on it. And besides, PW is still a 'niche' game series (unlike, say Pokemon).


Though I agree with the latter, I wouldn't be so quick to say the first thing. There have been animes about freaking football, tennis, and.. ....I can't think of anything aside from sports..but I'm sure there is an anime with an extremely uninteresting genre that came to be.[/quote]

Death Note would be a good example, I mean it made writing in a notebook look like the most awesome thing ever. And the first arc of it consists to about 90% of characters talking to each other trying to figure out who is the murderer/who is the secret detective. And it's still really exciting. I mean if PW works with static sprites I don't see why it wouldn't work animated.
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I'm not sure why, but for some reason, I was always able to see a Phoenix Wright show done in live action, but I could never see it as an anime. Of course, their fancy hairstyles would be gone, and all of the jokes about hair would be gone, and Ron DeLite would just be an annoying little punk. But I think it would beat some of the newer crime shows that have come out. Most of them strive too much to be funny and to have some kind of romantic sub plot.

If it were a show of some kind, they would have to keep some of the original cases, though having them all would spoil them. They need to keep 1-2, because any other way of Maya being introduced would be stupid to the people who've played the game. They'd have to keep 2-4, as that would possibly be the best thing ever animated.

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Even if it sucked, I'd probably watch it. I rarely watch TV, so it'd be something other than Law and Order and George Lopez.

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I'm not sure why, but for some reason, I was always able to see a Phoenix Wright show done in live action, but I could never see it as an anime. Of course, their fancy hairstyles would be gone, and all of the jokes about hair would be gone, and Ron DeLite would just be an annoying little punk.


If you took out the crazy hair, the jokes about the crazy hair, and Ron's feminineness(?), then you have nothing left! :larry: Although if they do original cases then they'll probably not have Ron, but that's not the point!


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If it were a show of some kind, they would have to keep some of the original cases, though having them all would spoil them. They need to keep 1-2, because any other way of Maya being introduced would be stupid to the people who've played the game. They'd have to keep 2-4, as that would possibly be the best thing ever animated.


I don't think they need to animate any game cases. Just look at the manga. It starts off with Phoenix, Maya, and Pearl already knowing each other. They could do the same for the anime. Although they could just have a main series of completely original cases, and then make OVAs that animate some of the game cases. (cough3-5cough)
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game into anime = really really really rare
The only one I know is final fantasy

but if there is an anime i think its better if they take the story from the original storyline
and umm, rated 13++
there is murder, and the court of law is hard for kids to understand.

yeah but my real reason is, you know, kids always misinterpret the storyline / etc of a movie / anime. I dont want that to happen to PW D:
Uhh that happen with my 11 yrs old sister, I end up explaining everything from case 1-1 to 3-5 for her.
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