Which victims were you NOT sorry for? (spoilers all 4 games)
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In 1-1, Cindy may have been a slut, but she didn't deserve death for it.
Mia's death in 1-2 was maybe a plot twist, but I still felt sorry for her.
Now in 1-3 Hammer was a jerk. Basically he was the one who tried to murder Dee, so I might say he deserved it.
1-4, Hammond... He was portrayed as a bad guy, but he didn't deserve death.
1-5, Goodman... he was a good man. 'Nuff said.
2-1, Dustin Prince... he seemed like a nobody, but still I felt very sorry for him. He died for basically no reason.
2-2, Turner Grey... he is a much more sympathic for me than Mimi. He may have made Mimi work hard, but that stupid chick could always have quit the job, and no other doctors / nurses went crazy just because of overworking. I thought that Grey, even if he's kinda crazy, was OK. (On a side note: I just noticed that Mimi is a common name for villains)
2-3, Russel: No sorry for me, sorry (lol). He could have avoided Bat's "death" by simply raising Regina properly. And nor he neither Regina showed any sign of guilt.
2-4, Juan? Well, he might have been an asshole, but death was a bit too much.
3-1, Doug: He died just because he tried to save the life of someone else... I hate Dahlia!
3-2, Kane Bullard: On the picture he doesn't look very human. He was also a blackmailer... I felt nothing for him.
3-3, Glen Elg: Much like Grey, he was a bit insane, but he didn't deserve death.
3-4, Valerie: I honestly don't know what to think of her. She was deeply guilty for 5 years, didn't pay a visit to Terry to explain the events... but then, suddenly, she just wants the whole truth to come out? The very same time Terry escapes, she starts to feel guilt? Whatever... I'll add her to my list, because she cooperated with Dahlia for all the years and testified against Terry, while she could have just said that Dahlia jumped in the water and died.
3-5: Misty, it doesn't even need an explanation.
4-1, Zak. Oh god I hate this guy! He already destroyed Phoenix's life and tries to do it again? Then hitting Olga, leaving Trucy, and so on. Even if he wasn't dead, I would have wished that he died somehow. I mean, Manfred seems like an innocent gentleman compared to Zak.
4-2, Pal Meraktis? It's all his fault, really. No sorry from me.
4-3, LeTouse. He wasn't a bad person. Obviously, he was doing a bad thing, but not so bad to deserve death.
4-4, Drew Misham. I hate him too, I really hate him. And I also hate Vera, too. Not only is she annoying, but she is a Regina 2. And I didn't like Regina 1 either, but at least she was cute and energetic. Vera is ugly and mentally retarded. But back to Drew, he knew exactly what he was doing, and still did that. Reminds me of Lotta.
So it's 1-3, 2-3, 3-2, 3-4, 4-1, 4-2 and 4-4.
Strangely a lot in AA4. At least everyone got the punishment in the end.
But I'd also punish the creators... not by death, of course, but at least being hit by a car, being fired, torn away from the one they love the most... you get the idea.
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Drew Misham for making all those forgeries.
Turner Grey. He was annoying.
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...Or not. Arguably you didn't even know Mia that well at the time. But anyway.
I kinda liked Zak Gramarye. Was an asshole, true, but he developed personality by the end of the game. Not sorry for Pal Meraktis, tho, nor for Dr. Grey. Meraktis deserved what he'd gotten, and Grey was trying to blame loss of business on everything but himself. The entire affair reeked. Aside from that, I didn't really care too much about any of the other victims...:|
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Didn't like Zak Gramarye either, for leaving Trucy behind and not even caring to say hi after seven years. >_> Why did he hit Olga anyway? Missed that part..
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Hammond. He ruined Yanni Yogi's life.
The Kurain Sacred Urn.
Celeste. I mean, she commits suicide when Adrian needs her the most.
Kane Bullard. He's just a bully.
Viola(technically a victim). No need for her to help Tigre so much for something that's his fault.
Iris(once again, a technicality). Since she was just too damn helpful for Dahlia.
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Dr. Grey, because I really never like it.
Corrida, for being the one who caused Celeste´s death.
Valerie, for shooting Flawles and for letting Dahlia escape.
Zak, I never knew why he wanted to cheat on Phoenix
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I can readily forgive *spoiler* for doing that.
The others, well, some I wasn't exactly heartbroken, but given the choice I'd rather they hadn't died, you know?
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-Robert Hammond. For what he put Yanni Yogi through, he kind of deserved it.
-Regina Berry (who would've been the victim if she had any brains) Her dad died, and she just sat there like, "Oh well." She was a stupid, spoiled, happy brat! She was like the extreme of all cheerleader stereotypes, and I just couldn't stand her!
-Dr. Turner Grey. He annoyed me to the point where I just thought, "Is this guy gonna die already?" And he did. And I laughed.
-Misty Fey. She and Godot both could've done plenty to stop the disaster WITHOUT resorting to killing anyone. She was going to murder Pearl. Unexcusable.
-Juan Corrida. He was just as sick as Matt Engarde, and he would've murdered Engarde himself if Matt hadn't done the job first.
I DID feel sorry for:
-Russel Berry. He was a good man, and he tried to be a good father. He did not deserve to die.
-Valerie Hawthorne. She tried to make up for what she did by telling the real truth. (And if you recall, Terry Fawles arranged the meeting.) But she made a crucial mistake: Trusting Dahlia.
-Mimi Miney. Just imagine the hell she must have gone through: Accidentally killing fourteen people, and then her own sister!? I'm surprised she didn't commit suicide over that! Every day from then on must have been torture for her. And yes, it was her fault, but that just made it all the worse for her! If you ask me, she's a victim of horrible luck.
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Actually looking at the list I don't find any victims I just wished they would drop dead o.o
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Bullard was also a jerk.
Meraktis too. If he was so worried about being killed by the Kitakis, why did he get involved with them?
I don't know what to think about Hammer. It's never clarified whether he did kill that man on purpose or not. If not, then I can feel sympathy for him.
I don't understand all the Misham hate. He obviously felt awful about the consequences of his forging that page.
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Turner Grey, for flipping me off and doing nothing but complaining!
Zak/Shadi for being a jerk and ruining phoenix's careeer.
Pal Meraktis, because what he did to Wocky.
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Kane Bullard- In the first two games, we met the case 2 victims. His death just felt way too random for someone that important. I mean, we know KB Security has a CEO, but we have no idea who it is until we suddenly find out he's been murdered. I was like "Who was that guy and why are we only hearing of him now?"
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root_beer_junkie wrote:
-Misty Fey. She and Godot both could've done plenty to stop the disaster WITHOUT resorting to killing anyone. She was going to murder Pearl. Unexcusable.
What? Misty wanted to read Pearl stories to make sure she didn't channel Dahlia
She didn't have any plans to kill Pearl.Godot, now, wanted to kill Pearl if she was channeling Dahlia for sure. He even said that he had no clue whether Pearl or Misty was channeling Dahlia.
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WhiteElephant wrote:
root_beer_junkie wrote:
-Misty Fey. She and Godot both could've done plenty to stop the disaster WITHOUT resorting to killing anyone. She was going to murder Pearl. Unexcusable.
What? Misty wanted to read Pearl stories to make sure she didn't channel Dahlia
She didn't have any plans to kill Pearl.It is true that she probably didn't want to kill Pearl if she could avoid it (although it was immensely stupid that neither Godot nor Misty thought that Pearl might simply not come to read), but she appears to have been willing to do so. Misty was the only one carrying a weapon that day. To use against who? Pearl was the one who was supposed to channel Dahlia and would have been the one threatening Maya's life if things went through. The game seems pretty clear that Misty was willing to do whatever it took to protect Maya even if it meant the "ultimate price." I suppose you could argue that she meant her own life with that, but the fact remains that she was the only one holding a weapon and therefore is the one who would likely have been wielding it. That kind of scratches out the possibility that she planned to die for Maya. Had she never intended to use the weapon then it's at least horribly negligent that she was carrying it. Misty's channeling Dahlia was a last minute thing as Godot testifies to and Misty proves by still having the weapon as she would have hidden it had she had more time rather then possibly arming Dahlia.
Oh, and let me add Misty to my list.
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Well, that's pretty much it.
For some reason, I happen to like Kane Bullard. He kind of was doing the right thing, trying to stop Atmey. And, he gave Larry a job (And didn't care the way he did it, as long as it wasn't "bad")! That's nice-ness right there. He seems the type to track down criminals, and have a really kind teenage daughter.
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How exactly was Cindy a slut?>_>
2-3, Russel: No sorry for me, sorry (lol). He could have avoided Bat's "death" by simply raising Regina properly. And nor he neither Regina showed any sign of guilt.
What happened with Bat was a tragic accident. Regina may have forgotten about the pepper, and we're not actually told how long after getting the scarf Bat does what he does. And it's not exactly the kind of thing one would expect to happen. We're never told Russel showed no guilt, and given his close relationship with the boys, I'd bet anything he felt sad it happened-it really wasn't anyone's fault, I believe. As for Regina not showing guilt, she just didn't understand. And while that can be blamed on her father, Acro admits to knowing her naivete, but he just couldn't let go.
4-3, LeTouse. He wasn't a bad person. Obviously, he was doing a bad thing, but not so bad to deserve death.
LeTouse wasn't doing anything bad. What are you talking about? He was one of the good guys.
4-4, Drew Misham. I hate him too, I really hate him. And I also hate Vera, too. Not only is she annoying, but she is a Regina 2. And I didn't like Regina 1 either, but at least she was cute and energetic. Vera is ugly and mentally retarded. But back to Drew, he knew exactly what he was doing, and still did that. Reminds me of Lotta.
Vera was nothing like Regina. She was an introvert who had been traumatized by almost being kidnapped when she was younger. Though she was a bit naive due to her lack of experience with the world, she was still very intelligent. She was also extremely shy.
1-1, We never really got to know Cindy, so it was hard to get all that upset.
1-2, Mia's death was one of the saddest for me, even though we didn't really get to know her either, until later games.
1-3, While I couldn't hate him for his anger towards Dee, it was the fact that he intended to frame Will for it that did it. Will was truly kind and even admits he would have given the role to Hammer if it meant so much to him.
1-4, Didn't really get to know Hammond.
1-5, Didn't get to know Goodman all that much, but he was portrayed as a good guy.
2-1, Didn't get to know Dustin all that much either, but he was also portrayed as a good guy
2-2, Grey just struck me as a jerk. He wanted to just pin everything on Mimi and take no blame himself.
2-3, Russel struck me as a good guy at heart, so I did feel bad for him.
2-4, Juan was a horrible man, so I don't feel sorry for him. What he drove Celeste to was horrible, as was his childish rivalry with Matt.
3-1, Didn't get to know Doug all that much, but he was portrayed as a good guy
3-2, Didn't get to know Kane all that much, but he was portrayed as a horrible blackmailer.
3-3, Didn't get to know Greg much either.>_> I'm sensing a pattern, here.
3-4, Valerie plotted something horrible and left Terry to take the fall. She doesn't strike me as much better than Dahlia.
3-5: When we learned the truth about everything and her devotion to saving Maya, I felt sad.
4-1, I felt bad for Trucy that Zak died, when I learned his true identity, but he really did do a lot of bad things. Not really leaving Trucy, since taking her with him would have put her in a lot of danger and prevented her for leading a normal life.
4-2, Didn't like Meraktis. How could he do such an awful thing?
4-3, LeTouse seemed like a good guy. Hated that he was a danger to Machi, but he was just doing his job.
4-4, Didn't really feel too bad for drew, given everything he did.
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-Hammer. I had no problem with him trying to kill Vasquez. I would have wanted to kill her too. But framing Powers was a bit much, don't you think?
-Hammond. He drove Yogi's fiancee to suicide, and Yogi to erase himself from society. Hammond's death was well deserved.
-Bullard. Obvious reason is obvious. Go Atmey go!
-Valerie. Almost as cold-blooded as her sister. Though I do feel some remorse in the fact that she died for wanting to set things right.
-Zak. Again, obvious reason is obvious.
-Meraktis. Screwing Eldoon over, lying about Wocky's condition... he was more evil than Alita if you ask me.
But I did feel especially sorry for:
-Mia. Do I even need to explain why?
-Goodman. He died just because he wanted to get to the bottom of SL-9.
-Dustin. That must have sucked, dying on his own birthday.
-Russel. He sounded like such a good person.
-Misty. Dying right after being reunited with her daughter and niece? Ouch.
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Kane Bullard- for obvious reasons
Magnifi- i dunno, i just don't pity him for dying, even though he wasn't exactly murdered.
Zak- He kinda deserved it...if you ask me, that is.
Grey- Not only was he extremely annoying with his little glasses animation, he was a complete jerk, who blamed everything on ini...er...mimi
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Felt sorry for everyone else.
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Vera is ugly and mentally retarded.
Wow.
Just wow.
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That really pissed me off.
That is 100% untrue, and not only that, but offensive. I would rant more, but that would just cause an endless volley of posts.
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I did not feel sorry for Bullard, Hammer, Pal Meraktis.
That's all I can think of
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Again, it's because Drew raised her a really bad way. Russel almost seems like a perfect father compared to him.
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1-2: Poor Mia
1-3: Felt kinda bad for Hammer. Having an accidental death rubbed in your face for the rest of your life would suck, but there was no need to get Will involved.
1-4: Hammond was an ass.
DL-6: Poor Edgey
1-5: Apathy. Goodman was incredibly generic.
SL-9: Slightly more pity than Goodman.
2-1: Poor Dustin was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
2-2: ...I really want to say I felt bad for Dr. Grey, but in all seriousness, I can't. He's still awesome, though.
2-3: Russel seemed like a pretty good guy. People talk like it's his fault Bat was put into a coma or something.
2-4: Juan = prick.
3-1: Didn't feel anything for Doug. Hey, it's nice that you wanna warn Phoenix about the poison, but if you're gonna be derp de derp and tell him when Dahlia's standing right there listening, you get what you deserve.
3-2: No pity for Bullard.
3-3: Yeah, Glen made a horribly destructive computer virus, but I got the feeling he wasn't really a bad guy.
3-4: Valerie was a bitch. After everything she did, planning to confess five years later was too little, too late.
Poisoning at the Courthouse: Diego Armando is an asshole.
3-5: I felt a little bad for Misty at first, but that faded pretty quickly when I stopped to think about how hard she failed.
4-1: Zak Gramarye is a jerk
4-2: I actually did feel a little bad for Meraktis. Yes, he neglected to tell Wocky about the bullet, but you try telling a Mafia boss you can't operate on his kid.
He wasn't exactly given a lot of options.4-3: Fairly apathetic. LeTouse was just sort of...there.
4-4: I guess I should have felt a little badly for Drew, he wasn't really a bad guy from what I gathered by the time you get to talk to him, but I was too irritated at him for costing Phoenix his license. petty reason is petty
Seven Years Ago: Magnifi Gramarye is also a jerk.
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WhiteElephant wrote:
root_beer_junkie wrote:
-Misty Fey. She and Godot both could've done plenty to stop the disaster WITHOUT resorting to killing anyone. She was going to murder Pearl. Unexcusable.
What? Misty wanted to read Pearl stories to make sure she didn't channel Dahlia
She didn't have any plans to kill Pearl.Godot, now, wanted to kill Pearl if she was channeling Dahlia for sure. He even said that he had no clue whether Pearl or Misty was channeling Dahlia.
Actually, it is mentioned that Misty planned to do whatever it took so Pearl wouldn't channel Maya. It is strongly implied that she would have murdered Pearl if she thought she had to.
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Mia because I knew she was going to come back via channeling :P
Hammond
Turner
Juan even though he was my 2nd favorite victim (Doug's my 1st, lolololol) o_o
Bullard
Valerie lolz
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Cindy IS a slut, she had those "sugar daddies".
About Russel, you are probably right. That accident could have easily be prevented, but to think about it, Bat was stupid, too.
Maybe I was a little too harsh. Accident is accident, even if it is someone's fault, they don't deserve death.
LeTouse was searching after the smuggler (who was Machi), and was probably going to arrest him which means death, for doing something good. That death penalty thing about smuggling the cocoons (which means life for sick people) is bullshit in my opinion.
About Vera, you are right, she is nothing like Regina. Regina was cute, energetic and she has a good heart (even if she caused that accident). Vera... I hate her face for some reason. And just like Regina, she did something really bad without knowing it. Even if her shyness and everything else can be blamed on her father (who IS a jerk)... she still irritates me.
About her trauma... Do I need to remind you that Edgey, Maya and even Pearl had something like that? And they didn't go "OMG I DIE IF I LEAVE THE HOUSE" or anything like this.
Oh and Mimi.
I know that Grey was a jerk, being all that angry for the weather girl and so on... and maybe his plan was idiocy, too. I mean, how can they accept something written by a dead person?
But let's be honest, he maybe has an awful personality, but nothing is his fault.
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Says who?O_o
LeTouse was searching after the smuggler (who was Machi), and was probably going to arrest him which means death, for doing something good. That death penalty thing about smuggling the cocoons (which means life for sick people) is bullshit in my opinion.
LeTouse was still just doing his job, and they really had no way of knowing what he planned to do with that coccoon. You can use it to make a very deadly poison or something, so it was possible he was plotting something a lot more dangerous. If you want to blame someone, then blame the goverment itself.
About Vera, you are right, she is nothing like Regina. Regina was cute, energetic and she has a good heart (even if she caused that accident). Vera... I hate her face for some reason. And just like Regina, she did something really bad without knowing it. Even if her shyness and everything else can be blamed on her father (who IS a jerk)... she still irritates me.
About her trauma... Do I need to remind you that Edgey, Maya and even Pearl had something like that? And they didn't go "OMG I DIE IF I LEAVE THE HOUSE" or anything like this.
They also had things they did do, though. Edgeworth, for example, would fall apart every time there was an earthquake. Maya became completely terrified of channeling. And Pearl just seems to recover insanely quickly from all kinds of severe emotional trauma.>_> Vera was just a little girl when it happened, and no doubt her father and Kristoph made things worse.
Oh and Mimi.
I know that Grey was a jerk, being all that angry for the weather girl and so on... and maybe his plan was idiocy, too. I mean, how can they accept something written by a dead person? But let's be honest, he maybe has an awful personality, but nothing is his fault.
We don't know that for sure. He was responsible for the stress that led to the accident. He pushed Mimi beyond her limits and didn't even seem to care. He's hardly blame-free. And remember that he bought that gun. If it came right down to it, he was willing and possibly even planning to shoot Maya while she was channeling Mimi. As it was, he did almost end up killing her.
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Szabu wrote:
I don't know about you, but I really hate Vera's face. And she's way annoying. It was like taking away everything I liked about Regina, and multiplying everything I didn't like about her 10 times.
Again, it's because Drew raised her a really bad way. Russel almost seems like a perfect father compared to him.
Let me hate Vera, I have the right :P
Again, it's because Drew raised her a really bad way. Russel almost seems like a perfect father compared to him.
Let me hate Vera, I have the right :P
Pffft. You have every right to hate her. But what you said REALLY offended me and pissed me off. Whatever, I have tons of more things to say, but I don't wanna start anything with you.
I don't think Cindy was a slut either. Girls will do that, but I think she actually liked Larry, the whole taking the thinker with her to her trip to Paris makes me feel she appreciated him.
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I didn't really care if they didn't have all that much impact in the story though. I also just contradicted myself. Wow, it's getting late.
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Diego because I spoiled myself 8D
Terry :C
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TheSteelSamurai wrote:
Cindy IS a slut, she had those "sugar daddies".
Says who?O_o
Says who?O_o
Payne said so in the game. Then Larry was all "WTF YOU ASS" or something.
kristophlover967 wrote:
Everyone except Mia, Gregory Edgeworth, Valorie Hawthorne, Bruce Goodman, and Glen Elg. and Francise Deauxnim. (sp?)
Her name was Elise Deauxnim :x
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