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I need to know this for... fiction reasons. >>;
1. I've noticed that Kyouya frequently uses "aniki" in case 4. "Aniki" more or less means "big brother," right?

2. How does Kirihito act towards Kyouya and Odoroki? And how do they act towards him?
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I'm not sure about the second one, but yes, "aniki" is an informal way of referring to an older brother, and I do believe it's used mostly *though not exclusively* by Yakuza. but don't quote me on that last bit.
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Lots of people use Aniki, especially in anime and such. But they do use it a lot in Yakuza, too (a lot of yakuza titles are family related, I think...?).

Kirihito and his relationships with other people are kind of hard because you almost never see him being completely honest. But these were my impressions:

In 4-1, Kirihito and Odoroki are pretty classic master/student. Kirihito prods him in the right direction, and teases him a lot (things like, "Isn't there something more serious you could be objecting to...?" and "Please don't embarrass me as your mentor.") He's all smiles and comes off as a wise but affectinate older brother. Odoroki obviously has a lot of respect for him, but at the same time he gets over the shock of Kirihito being accused of murder awfully fast. Odoroki obviously values truth more than any attachment to his teacher.

After that, Kirihito still addresses Odoroki politely and continues to act like his teacher, but as 4-4 goes on that obviously becomes more malicious. Odoroki stands up to him better than I would have thought (probably a little better than he should, given the circumstances, but...that's another topic). It's a little hard to tell if Kirihito honestly liked or gave a shit about Odoroki pre-game. I kind of like to think that he did, but... :yuusaku:

Kirihito's relationship with Kyouya is a lot harder to pin down. When Kirihito first shows up in 4-4 he totally talks over Kyouya, objecting and speaking directly to Odoroki. And though Kyouya does try harder as a prosecutor during that part of the case, he shuts up pretty fast when Kirihito has something to say. At least, at first. When the evidence starts pointing towards Kirihito seriously, he comes back to his usual personality and starts standing up to him. By the end he's downright goading him on.

We don't really know what they'd be like together out of that setting. The only big clues are when Kyouya says things like, "I wanted to believe in you" and "You've been afraid all this time." I got the impression that Kyouya respected his brother and sought his approval, but only got back shallow affection in return, if anything. Maybe Kyouya was even a little wary of him over the years. But we don't get to see Kyouya's reaction to 4-1, and we don't get in his head.

As for what Kirihito honestly thought about his little brother...that's kind of anyone's guess.

But then, these are just my impressions from the game. The brothers only give us very little, so there are plenty of ways to interpret them.
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As far as the Garyuu bros go, probably my favorite bits about them were their subtle similarities. I love, for example, the way their "pissy frowny face" sprites look almost exactly the same, and how both of them can get a very quiet "heavy" air about them when they're serious.

Like when Kirihito asks Odoroki if he's betraying him, still with the smile on his face, there is just such a sense of DANGER there. It was like HOLY SHIT, THIS GUY WILL FUCK ME UP. And you get an echo of that later on with Kyouya quietly saying he doesn't like to repeat himself, still with a grin on his face. That sense of subtle "better back down NOW" is still there, even though Kyouya isn't a sociopathic murderer.

As far as the relationship between them goes...really, there's not a whole lot of anything. I was really bummed out, actually, that we didn't fully get to explore Odoroki and Kyouya's reactions to Kirihito in 4-4. I get the feeling as Kyouya got older he and Kirihito became more distant. Probably as a response to what happened with Zack's trial. Though that's entirely speculation on my part....
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Like when Kirihito asks Odoroki if he's betraying him, still with the smile on his face, there is just such a sense of DANGER there. It was like HOLY SHIT, THIS GUY WILL FUCK ME UP. And you get an echo of that later on with Kyouya quietly saying he doesn't like to repeat himself, still with a grin on his face. That sense of subtle "better back down NOW" is still there, even though Kyouya isn't a sociopathic murderer.


Not yet, anyway. :adrian:

It's so true XD. Sometimes the fact that they didn't change sprites was more unnerving than anything. "Mm, okay Odoroki. I'm gonna cut you now, kay? :)" I'm glad Odoroki was able to stand up to them both in 4-4, but a little more uncertainty there would have been appreciated.
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