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Kirihito... (case 4 spoilers)
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But what's he guilty of?
Manslaughter or murder?
Yes, he intended to kill Makoto, but he did know the poison was still in the Ese's household. It could have killed Doburoku, and it did.
So, what do you think he's guilty of?
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...Hopefully someday... xD
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nuuuuu, stoooooop
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Seriously, what was in it for him? He had already been sentenced so there was no reason for him to go ballistic and shit bricks. Maybe I'm thinking too deeply on the matter but it is puzzling.
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Walkie Talkie Man wrote:
I always wonder why Kristoph bothered to have a seizure in court after being declared Guilty.
Seriously, what was in it for him? He had already been sentenced so there was no reason for him to go ballistic and shit bricks. Maybe I'm thinking too deeply on the matter but it is puzzling.
Seriously, what was in it for him? He had already been sentenced so there was no reason for him to go ballistic and shit bricks. Maybe I'm thinking too deeply on the matter but it is puzzling.
Well first of all, it's not like he *chose* to flip his shit. He was royally pissed!
And it wasn't that he was declared guilty. The one thing he didn't want to get out was the fact that he was the one who framed Phoenix all those years ago, and he thought he was safe, because no one had any evidence that he had done it. Phoenix had no legal way of proving Kristoph guilty of the forgery. So Phoenix did the only thing he could do: he helped change law itself, so that he wouldn't *need* proof in order to prove to the world that Kristoph was guilty.
Phoenix took away the one thing Kristoph thought was protecting him: he changed the rules and tricked Kristoph into exposing himself. That's why he flipped out.
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I guess the idea of his perfection being disrupted would probably be cooler if it wasn't used to death on Manfred and Franziska.
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What is my liiiife?!?
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Spoiler: 4-4
So I think there's plenty impact to be found here. :)
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I still have a faint hope of Kristoph coming back in a later game to fill in some extra info about him and his brother. Not as a villain again (you can only kill so many people from prison!) but as a relevant witness to some other, older case... I think it's an oppertunity they haven't had in the series before, and it could make for an interesting twist.
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Quoting the Washington State Legislature;
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(1) A person is guilty of reckless endangerment when he or she recklessly engages in conduct not amounting to drive-by shooting but that creates a substantial risk of death or serious physical injury to another person.
(2) Reckless endangerment is a gross misdemeanor
(2) Reckless endangerment is a gross misdemeanor
Which means Kirihito would get off with just a slap on the wrist... in Washington at least.
He didn't intend to kill Doburoku so that would fall under manslaughter.
Quoting the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes;
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ยง 2502. Murder.
"Intentional killing."
Killing by means of poison, or by lying in wait, or by any other kind of willful, deliberate and premeditated killing.
"Intentional killing."
Killing by means of poison, or by lying in wait, or by any other kind of willful, deliberate and premeditated killing.
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Overruled?
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Croik wrote:
Phoenix took away the one thing Kristoph thought was protecting him: he changed the rules and tricked Kristoph into exposing himself. That's why he flipped out.
And that friends is why Phoenix kicks so much ass.
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I still have a faint hope of Kristoph coming back in a later game to fill in some extra info about him and his brother.
I always thought it would be a nice idea for case 5-1 or 6-1 to play as Kristoph who's tutoring Apollo during his case, maybe during that time we can find out some bits and pieces of their characters. Maybe Kristoph could even go up against his brother in court.
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DarkWobbuffet wrote:
I always thought it would be a nice idea for case 5-1 or 6-1 to play as Kristoph who's tutoring Apollo during his case, maybe during that time we can find out some bits and pieces of their characters. Maybe Kristoph could even go up against his brother in court.
As an Apollo flashback? I think it's a fantastic idea. Then there'd still be a reason for Kristoph to re-explain the game controls, without using the amnesia excuse again. In general I'm not really a fan of flashbacks, but... I'd make an exception for Gavinses <3
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Croik wrote:
In general I'm not really a fan of flashbacks, but... I'd make an exception for Gavinses <3
Pshaw, you just wanna see Young Apollo.
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The Law is just a Game...
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Walkie Talkie Man wrote:
I always wonder why Kristoph bothered to have a seizure in court after being declared Guilty.
Seriously, what was in it for him? He had already been sentenced so there was no reason for him to go ballistic and shit bricks. Maybe I'm thinking too deeply on the matter but it is puzzling.
Seriously, what was in it for him? He had already been sentenced so there was no reason for him to go ballistic and shit bricks. Maybe I'm thinking too deeply on the matter but it is puzzling.
It's called the "Guilty Gag". It happens when people are finally convicted. It's a real thing. I had a guy try and jump a table. He didn't get very far wearing ankle shackles.
Besides, it's boring when criminals behave.
Punishment wise...
*pulls caselaw from book shelf*
Manslaughter can anything from probation to 15 years in prison.
Also, for attorneys, forging evidence is a Class A Felony. Conviction of any form of felony is automatic disbarment. I would die if I lost my law license.
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What is my liiiife?!?
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Gerkuman wrote:
Um, I'm assuming by felonies you mean serious crimes. I mean, if it wasn't then you'd be paranoid about getting parking tickets. XD As for the 'guilty gag', it seems that guilt can play a part in it. Paranoid people like Kristoph react more explosively, and overall temprement affects it too. For all of his outward appearance of a cool collected man, he was a hot-head.
Fooishly foolish fool
All attorneys are paranoid.
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