Re: GS4 Contradictions (Spoilers, almost every case)
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As for no mud being on the slipper, maybe she stepped in a puddle or something that washed it off. And as far as I understand it, it does not explicitly say where Alita wore the slippers to before removing them, or who discarded them (though I think it was Plum). She could have easily stepped in the paint and then taken the slippers off, and/or JUMPED OVER the spilled paint, solving the problem.
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Alita stepped out of the cart onto soft earth, where there happened to be a leaf on the ground. This made a print on the ground of her slipper, with a leaf in the middle.
The leaf stuck to Alita's slipper as she left the park. Outside of the Kitaki mansion, she stepped in paint. She threw the slippers away, and the leaf came off, thus leaving an empty leaf-shaped space in the paint stain on the bottom of the slipper.
The next morning, Plum started cleaning up the paint, which is probably why you don't see her footprint.
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Anyway, I just thought of something. In case 3, when Apollo hears "a door slam," I assume that since it's not Lamiroir looking in and dropping her brooch, then it must be Machi. He admitted that he was in the room when he heard the firecrackers go off, and then escaped, after all. So if Apollo and Ema were in the room then, and not to mention that Polly was still there when Machi apparently escaped... Why did they not see him?
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I just thought of something. In case 4_2, when you inspect the tailpipe of Meraktis' car, Apollo makes an allusion to case 1_5, by mentioning an old case that "Mr. Wright worked on" where a cloth in the tailpipe became a vital clue.
Now, if he studied up on that case, then why doesn't he recognize Ema? Or, even if he didn't know about Ema herself, shouldn't the name "Skye" have rung some bells, considering who the client was in that case?
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Anyway, I think that wa salready brought up... Decisive evidence like the muffler would have stood out more than a name. Maybe Apollo only read the case file once or twice, and forgot some of the names or something, but remembered the tailpipe.
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And in case anyone didn't understand the Miriam reference...
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But... wouldn't the case name have been "State Vs. Skye" or something like that? Hm... I guess you're right.
Yeah, but what reason would he have to assume this Detective Skye is related to Lana Skye? It's not that uncommon of a name.
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In 4-3, Klavier says he never repeats a song in the same concert, not even for an encore, yet they play "guilty love" at least twice.
Yes, I know it's being a bit too picky.
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How long were we exactly playing as
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I mean, it's sort of implied that we switched over to her when the MASON system began, but when we went back to the trial, we had the normal views and everything. Then at the end, everyone looks at the "Camera" that the jurors were looking from. This sort of bothers me...
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How is it that
saw ? She was going through the AIR VENT. You don't see people in an air vent. What, did he just happen to see the broach drop from the vent?And for that matter, how does a broach like that just fall out?
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Kristoph says that the card is a fake, however phoenix argues that only the real killer could know this. Why doesnt Kristoph after admitting he was guilty, then use the card to take down Phoenix and Apollo for using and creating fake evidence?
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nose wrote:
my first contradiction isnt really a condraticition but makes little sense to me.
Kristoph says that the card is a fake, however phoenix argues that only the real killer could know this. Why doesnt Kristoph after admitting he was guilty, then use the card to take down Phoenix and Apollo for using and creating fake evidence?
Kristoph says that the card is a fake, however phoenix argues that only the real killer could know this. Why doesnt Kristoph after admitting he was guilty, then use the card to take down Phoenix and Apollo for using and creating fake evidence?
Huh... Good point... But, it's probably because Krissi knew that it was Nick, not Polly that made the card, and since Nick was already disbarred at that point there wasn't much point for Krissi to call him out on it. And even if he did, he'd already been found guilty anyway, and since the facts were already leaning towards him as the killer, he'd still most likely be considered guilty. Or at least not entirely innocent.
So either way Kristoph wouldn't gain too much by pointing out the forgery.
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nose wrote:
my first contradiction isnt really a condraticition but makes little sense to me.
Kristoph says that the card is a fake, however phoenix argues that only the real killer could know this. Why doesnt Kristoph after admitting he was guilty, then use the card to take down Phoenix and Apollo for using and creating fake evidence?
Kristoph says that the card is a fake, however phoenix argues that only the real killer could know this. Why doesnt Kristoph after admitting he was guilty, then use the card to take down Phoenix and Apollo for using and creating fake evidence?
Possibly Kristoph burnt the real card, so wasn't able to produce it in order to prove that Phoenix's card was a fake.
Here's a contradiction for you:
In 4-3, Klavier says that Daryan was the first detective he ever worked with. However, Klavier, owing to a quirk of the German legal system, became a prosecutor at 17 years old. Now, Daryan and Klavier are the same age. How, then, did Daryan become a detective at 17? Is he secretly German?
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Salutation Here wrote:
Here's a contradiction for you:
In 4-3, Klavier says that Daryan was the first detective he ever worked with. However, Klavier, owing to a quirk of the German legal system, became a prosecutor at 17 years old. Now, Daryan and Klavier are the same age. How, then, did Daryan become a detective at 17? Is he secretly German?
In 4-3, Klavier says that Daryan was the first detective he ever worked with. However, Klavier, owing to a quirk of the German legal system, became a prosecutor at 17 years old. Now, Daryan and Klavier are the same age. How, then, did Daryan become a detective at 17? Is he secretly German?
Well, if my math's right, then Valerie Hawthorne first became a detective at 18, so maybe Daryan is like Valerie--they're both just prodigies, like the whole rest of the series. XD
And as to that case, Klavier acts like he can't remember Gumshoe's name for a moment at the start of the trial... I'm guessing Klavier didn't really work on the investigation too much (given how flippant he is about investigations now, lol), and that Daryan was the first detective he actually worked seriously with.
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And it's basically the fact on the original version in which the Von Karmas are from America and pretty much, yeah Klavier is too.
So avoiding that whole mess as the game is westernized enough to make it look like that they're America itself, they picked one country out of a play of darts and chance. With the discovery of Klavier coming from the same country as the Von Karmas, they picked the same place again to keep consistency.
Now they could easily have picked Japan but that's not the country you would think that would have something as noted or Westernized as laywers and the whole legal system.
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I like to think that Kristoph didn't declare Phoenix's evidence as forged after the first trial because he knew it would ruin Apollo. In a lot of ways Kristoph treated Apollo with even greater respect than his own brother, and he really was teaching Apollo to be a good lawyer. Even at the end of 4-4 he still hates Phoenix more than Apollo, so maybe it was just that Kristoph liked him enough not to want to ruin his career over something Phoenix did.
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ok i don't know if this one was done or not
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There are a few post of that a couple pages back, which I don't think have been resolved... o.O
After some thinking, this is how I think it went:
Wes steals Trucy's panties, freaks, and hides them at Pal's clinic.
To avoid Trucy, he goes behind the Wright Talent Agency, and arrives at the Kitaki mansion.
Then Wesley steals Plum's panties, freaks AGAIN, and runs away from the mansion, ending up near the north end of the park.
Finally, he throws away Plum's panties in the trash can, looks up, and viola. There is the crime scene.
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WhiteElephant wrote:
LeTouse probably didn't know who Daryan was.
<------- HOW DO YOU NOT REMEMBER THIS?????Quote:
Not to mention he was running out of life quick.
I can assume you mean one of two things by this. One, he was bleeding badly and couldn't see who had attacked him. Two, it had been so long since he was murdered, during Guitar's Serenade, that he can't say. Both are impossible; Daryan only killed LeTouse because he was revealed to be an agent. They HAD to have talked. Only after the struggle did Daryan yell "It's over! Press the switch!" Daryan was the one taken by surprise; he just covered it up well. As for memory loss...he quite clearly remembered the witness.
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As for moving through the vent that was explained during the game. From the time Lamiroir is on stage to the moment she disappears that was proven to actually be Valant in disguise. From the beginning of the song- maybe even earlier Lamiroir is moving through the ventilation system to get to the rising platform. Her brooch probably fell off while she was walking.
Yes, I understand what actually happened, and it makes sense. I'm saying that the contradiction Apollo finds is not news, and doesn't prove anything on its own. He says that the brooch "magically disappears" during the tape. It wasn't magic; it only makes sense. The current perception is that she dropped it when moving past the vent. Thus, it only makes sense for it to not be on her robes when she reappears. Honestly, when I looked at GameFAQs to solve that part, I was just plain frustrated at the writers. Based on the evidence present, there was absolutely nothing disproving my Lamiroir-Cannon theory.
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Phoenix_Apollo wrote:
I still don't understand HOW LeTouse saw Lamiroir. She was in an AIR VENT. You can't see anyone up there, if you're on the floor, especially since he was on the otherside of the room.
because he know the thick and thus he know she was in an air vent at that time.
He did not actually see her.
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rx93zeront wrote:
Phoenix_Apollo wrote:
I still don't understand HOW LeTouse saw Lamiroir. She was in an AIR VENT. You can't see anyone up there, if you're on the floor, especially since he was on the otherside of the room.
because he know the thick and thus he know she was in an air vent at that time.
He did not actually see her.
So he was basically guessing she was there at the time?
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^^^Speaking of LeTouse's death, shouldn't Apollo have been severely traumatized by it? I mean, he was right there, in the presence of a dying man, listening to his last words, and WATCHING HIM DIE, unable to do anything. He then allowed the body to be stolen out from under him, and then he found it, posed, 30 feet in the air.
You'd think it would have a more profound effect on him than it did.
EDIT
My sister also pointed out that according to Magnifi's autopsy report, he died of blood loss.
Magnifi was shot in the forehead.
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^^^ ^^^
Speaking of LeTouse's death, shouldn't Apollo have been severely traumatized by it? I mean, he was right there, in the presence of a dying man, listening to his last words, and WATCHING HIM DIE, unable to do anything. He then allowed the body to be stolen out from under him, and then he found it, posed, 30 feet in the air.
You'd think it would have a more profound effect on him than it did.
EDIT
My sister also pointed out that according to Magnifi's autopsy report, he died of blood loss.
Magnifi was shot in the forehead.
^^^Speaking of LeTouse's death, shouldn't Apollo have been severely traumatized by it? I mean, he was right there, in the presence of a dying man, listening to his last words, and WATCHING HIM DIE, unable to do anything. He then allowed the body to be stolen out from under him, and then he found it, posed, 30 feet in the air.
You'd think it would have a more profound effect on him than it did.
EDIT
My sister also pointed out that according to Magnifi's autopsy report, he died of blood loss.
Magnifi was shot in the forehead.
Also, the pillow was absolutely normal.
What did the bullet do? Stay in the middle of his brain?
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Maro-chan wrote:
It is possible that the bullet stayed in Magnifi's brain... But... If it did, and he died of blood loss, then where did the blood go?
Internal bleeding?
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...Or maybe Valant was a darling and changed his pillows when he put the extra IV fluid in.
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In fact, if the bullet stays in, then there's no exit wound, therefore there's no blood to be seen at the pillow.
...Or maybe Valant was a darling and changed his pillows when he put the extra IV fluid in.
...Or maybe Valant was a darling and changed his pillows when he put the extra IV fluid in.
Then the qutopsy should read "Internal Bleeding".
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