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this is so awesome/scary I think I just wet myself.
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I dunno... my headcanon has always been that Apollo and Pearl Fey share the same father. As long as you assume that Apollo's father left Thalassa, rather than dying, it's juuuust barely possible.

...C'mon, look at their foreheads. You see it too, right? :pearl: :odoroki:

BUT. Gant? Apollo? That's... horrendous. In a good way.
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THEORY UPDATED!

Diana pointed out to me how odd it was that Darke managed to escape police custody at all. They knew he was a serial killer, they wouldn't have let him out of their sights for even a moment.

Unless Gant had a motive to let a killer run free. He knew ever-heroic Neil would give chase. It was his way to silence Neil permanently.

More in-depth explanation in the updated theory post!
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Weird, it's a Diana!

Dude, that Pearl and Apollo theory...Them being siblings...

I don't think it holds water, BUT...Did we ever find out who HER dad was? I don't think we did...Did they even mention what happened to him? I think they just say he left.

This opens up a whole new realm of possibility. What if Gant and Morgan somehow managed to get together long enough to father her?

Just a thought. :keiko:

Also, I came up with more evidence for this theory earlier, but I already forgot. I suppose the continued mind-explosions will have to wait. :damon:
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That's appalling! :moe-laugh:
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I REMEMBERED MY EVIDENCE. Theory update GET!

How DID Gant afford that organ, anyway? Most police chiefs don't have a salary high enough to facilitate something like that. According to Google, the average is about $61,000 per year. Not really enough for something so extravagant, I'd think.

Though, being a well-paid professional organist might have had something to do with it.

@Icarus: HAH! I get it! Because appalling...It sounds like Apollo...Sorta...Right? Right? Did I get it? 8D *ruins the joke*
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Wait... What if he raped thrallassa twice?
What if zak isn't trucys real father, and it is infact Gant aswell?

for example:
Spoiler: When Happy, they both close there eyes
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Spoiler: When Angry, they raise there fists
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Spoiler: When shocked, they lean slightly back and raise there hands
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Spoiler: They both have four buttons in the same position
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and now some concept...
Spoiler: In his concept, he is wearing trucy and thrallasa's 'triangle'
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oh, and I also have something else to support your theory,
Spoiler: Apollo Concept
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Remind you of anyone? :will:
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Wait... What if he raped thrallassa twice?
What if zak isn't trucys real father, and it is infact Gant aswell?

Spoiler: When shocked, they lean slightly back and raise there hands
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and now some concept...
Spoiler: In his concept, he is wearing trucy and thrallasa's 'triangle'
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Well, I wouldn't call their shocked sprites similar. Plus, that "diamond" is a war medal.
Interesting theory though, however, if Gant is Trucy's dad too, when did he have the opportunity to knock up Thalassa again? :yuusaku:
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Xray wrote:
DefenceLawyer wrote:
Wait... What if he raped thrallassa twice?
What if zak isn't trucys real father, and it is infact Gant aswell?

Spoiler: When shocked, they lean slightly back and raise there hands
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and now some concept...
Spoiler: In his concept, he is wearing trucy and thrallasa's 'triangle'
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Well, I wouldn't call their shocked sprites similar. Plus, that "diamond" is a war medal.
Interesting theory though, however, if Gant is Trucy's dad too, when did he have the opportunity to knock up Thalassa again? :yuusaku:

I'll look into it now, and with the shocked poses, it was the 'spikes' on her cape and around Gant that I found similar.
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Mind blowing. Absolutely mind blowing. This makes the 2-4 plot twist look like a small doggie compared to the possibility of this. Makes a possible Apollo Justice 2 far more exciting though =D
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Hmm... It must have happened in 2010, if she was born in 2011... Gumshoe was promoted in 2011!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Another member of the police force is connected to the theory?
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Gant could impregnate men, animals and rocks with a prolonged glance and a clap of the hands.
I vote that Manfred gave birth to Franziska through his magical raep-o-vision.

Edit: OMG, Gant is the Chuck Norris of rape. YES
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*looks at evidence*

Oh my GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!

Thalassa was a dirty girl....
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Mind blowing. Absolutely mind blowing. This makes the 2-4 plot twist look like a small doggie compared to the possibility of this. Makes a possible Apollo Justice 2 far more exciting though =D


Actually if this turns out to have been their plan all along for Apollo Justice 2, it won't be as exciting.

It would've been an awesome twist though, now the impact of it seems kinda...stale...
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Thalassa's a hoe.
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One thing's for sure; I refuse to believe Gant NEVER rapes anyone in the series. Thalassa makes sense, I guess.
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While this is a really well thought out conspiracy theory, I think it's a bit far-fetched.
I don't think Gant was originally an organ player, then went onto law. If so, then there probably would've been a little hint in 1-5 about that, though I guess you could say the organ's a hint (it's also a weird switch of careers. Or at least, to me it is). I think his organ playing is just a hobby (besides, we're never told if he's ever good at playing it).
And even if he was first an organ player, I doubt that he would perform along side with the Gramarye Troupe.
It... just doesn't seem to fit, organs and magic. :yuusaku:

Oh, and I also don't think Thalassa would fall in love with him. Sure, she'd think he's a nice guy, but I don't think she would actually fall for him. Even though I don't have actual proof of this, I think it wouldn't be like Thalassa to fall for him...
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Ahem.......... *cough* *cough*

While I don't see how Gant could fake his own death, isn't it true that no decisive evidence exists to prove that Thalassa's first husband is really Apollo's father? If we turn things around a bit, it's entirely possible that Thalassa and Gant had a fling or two, especially if this husband was in actuality a suspected fugitive that Gant was after. Knowing Gant's M.O., he wouldn't hesitate to do something like seduce Thalassa if it meant obtaining evidence that could implicate Thalassa's husband as a criminal. So there's another possibility..... :damon:
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OMG!

It actually makes sense! I just noticed it when the picture were compared!

But, doesn't it seem a bit too laid out?
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And even if he was first an organ player, I doubt that he would perform along side with the Gramarye Troupe.
It... just doesn't seem to fit, organs and magic. :yuusaku:


Magic shows, like circuses, use organs all the time! And some organs allow you to change the instrument sound on them, much like an electric piano.

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Oh, and I also don't think Thalassa would fall in love with him. Sure, she'd think he's a nice guy, but I don't think she would actually fall for him. Even though I don't have actual proof of this, I think it wouldn't be like Thalassa to fall for him...


Well, who said she fell in love with him? Maybe she was just trying to escape. Maybe he tricked a naive little girl, like the theory states.
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We'll know by AJ2 if Thalassa is a swimming enthusiast.

I don't think it's that bad I mean....on the surface Gant is a charming and delightful individual....takes care of his body, has lots of wealth and power and he's a nice guy. Kinda surprising he's not a pimp really.
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Yaragorm wrote:
stienerguy wrote:
Mind blowing. Absolutely mind blowing. This makes the 2-4 plot twist look like a small doggie compared to the possibility of this. Makes a possible Apollo Justice 2 far more exciting though =D


Actually if this turns out to have been their plan all along for Apollo Justice 2, it won't be as exciting.

It would've been an awesome twist though, now the impact of it seems kinda...stale...


Perhaps you're right, but I would just love to see how they would explain it. Without it becoming a bit strange. Maybe it would be better if Phoenix became the daddy by using the MASON system. That would be even stranger =/
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THIS is a scary thought, but you know that the official arts of Kristoph and Lamiroir have VERY similar portraits which made me think that Kristoph is actually Polly's father :keiko:
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The smile and the hairstyle convinced me. I ono
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I love you for thinking this up! (my best friend loves Apollo)

It made my stomach turn & me nearly choke on my toothbrush. But I can't imagine Thalassa falling for Gant seriously, if any guy looks at me thats his age I say "pedo" and don't go near them, let alone want to have sex with them.

Excuse me I think i just gaged at the thought.
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I love you for thinking this up! (my best friend loves Apollo)

It made my stomach turn & me nearly choke on my toothbrush. But I can't imagine Thalassa falling for Gant seriously, if any guy looks at me thats his age I say "pedo" and don't go near them, let alone want to have sex with them.

Excuse me I think i just gaged at the thought.

It's AA, anythings possible, but (In the great words of Zinle)
In a 'peanut', Gant can do what he wants... he's a HypoGant.
on another note, at least we know that capcom had apollo in mind when making apollo.
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Whooooa, that concept art is definitely frightening in its similarity.

Diana, we need to update the post!
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Sadly enough I like the look of that concept art more than how Apollo eventually turned out.
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Thanks for posting the concept art. All of these coincidences are starting to pile up..... :gant:
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grim_tales wrote:
1) How would Apollo feel if his dad is a criminal?



Please read my post.
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Eco wrote:
Please read my post.

Uhhh..... you do realize that Kristoph is biologically too young to be Apollo's father, right? :eh?:
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Cohdopia Over All wrote:
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Please read my post.

Uhhh..... you do realize that Kristoph is biologically too young to be Apollo's father, right? :eh?:


Yeah, and Marty McFly is biologically too young to have written Johnny B. Goode before Chuck Berry, but we all know how that turned out.
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Perfect! Just Perfect! This just HAS to be true.
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I was thinking, Gants japenese name could come from an old saying 'You can pick on the mountains, but you can never pick on the sea' well where do mountains and sea's come into the Gramarye?

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I recall Brushel saying that Apollo's father died on stage. For this theory to work given this piece of information, he would have faked his death in front of hundreds, maybe thousands of spectators, changed his name and appearance and rapidly worked his way up to chief of police.

... Darn. Souding a little unlikely... :sadshoe:
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I recall Brushel saying that Apollo's father died on stage. For this theory to work given this piece of information, he would have faked his death in front of hundreds, maybe thousands of spectators, changed his name and appearance and rapidly worked his way up to chief of police.

... Darn. Souding a little unlikely... :sadshoe:


That doesn't make sense.

At the end of AJ Apollo wasn't aware Thalassa was his mother so Brushel couldn't have mentioned it.
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Pierre wrote:
GigaHand wrote:
I recall Brushel saying that Apollo's father died on stage. For this theory to work given this piece of information, he would have faked his death in front of hundreds, maybe thousands of spectators, changed his name and appearance and rapidly worked his way up to chief of police.

... Darn. Souding a little unlikely... :sadshoe:


That doesn't make sense.

At the end of AJ Apollo wasn't aware Thalassa was his mother so Brushel couldn't have mentioned it.

Oh, he didn't say it was Apollo's father, just that it was Thalassa's first husband. It was after (before?) that Phoenix deduced that they were one and the same. Either way, according to Brushel, Apollo's father died on stage.
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BTW, for people saying that there's proof that Thalassa's first husband is Apollo's father, you're right: we're suggesting Gant is the proverbial first husband. :O

As far as him dying on stage, well...They're magicians. World FAMOUS magicians. I think it's perfectly feasible that Magnifi could have figured it out, or, should I say...

Had a TRICK UP HIS SLEVE! :moe:
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Could you post the theory on the first post instead of a link please? My computers quite slow sometimes :will:
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