Re: GS4 Contradictions (Spoilers, almost every case)
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AdvanceStratagist wrote:
Do they say at all how many years the Gramarye's had been that popular?
Not exactly, but Apollo mentions that he remembered seeing them on TV as a child in one of the cases. If we assume that they needed to be 'that popular' to get on TV, and that 'child' means someone about 10 or younger, we can conclude using Apollo's age that the Grammarye Troupe were top-tier magicians from at least 2013 on (possibly earlier), which was 5 years before the State vs Galactica.
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Hm... Maybe he just freaked out and decided to throw the panties away, and failed to notice Meraktis coming in. Then when he turned around, Wocky came in, and that's when Wesley saw the crime.
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Stickler took an alternate route to avoid Trucy, yes, but in court he shows on the diagram the route he took, to the Kitaki Mansion, where he stole Plum's bloomers. It's kind of vague. According to him, this is the route he took to avoid the Wright Anything Agency and be able to steal the bloomers:
Stickler then says he "reported the crime." Of what crime, I am unsure. If he walked directly into the park right after he stole the bloomers, he would see the part of the stand that says "ELDOON," where, if he shouted out, Meraktis would turn his head to the left. The only way he could have turned his head to the right (to be shot in the right temple) was if Stickler took this route:
Which he didn't, because he needed to avoid Trucy. It just doesn't make sense. Maybe I misunderstood it, but it still wouldn't make sense. If he never took the first route, he wouldn't have the bloomers. And if he never took the second route, he wouldn't be able to dispose of the bloomers and witness the crime as it happened.
Hmm, a conundrum.
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And it was mentioned several times that Stickler happened upon the scene, Meraktis didn't come to him.
Re: GS4 Contradictions (Spoilers, almost every case)
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Silenced pistols, probably.
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Also, someone mentioned a good point about 4-3. What was Lamiroir doing in that end of the ventillation shaft, anyways? Why couldn't she just stay where she last appeared in her performance? There is no reason for her to crouch through the vents.
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Poltergust wrote:
So, if no one has any objections to my slippers and paint contradiction, then I guess that wraps that one up. There is no reason to why there is paint on the bottom of the slippers, Alita took them off after taking a step out of the noodle stand, and then promptly threw them out in the trashcan AWAY from the paint. Contradiction found! =D
Also, someone mentioned a good point about 4-3. What was Lamiroir doing in that end of the ventillation shaft, anyways? Why couldn't she just stay where she last appeared in her performance? There is no reason for her to crouch through the vents.
Also, someone mentioned a good point about 4-3. What was Lamiroir doing in that end of the ventillation shaft, anyways? Why couldn't she just stay where she last appeared in her performance? There is no reason for her to crouch through the vents.
Both of these have been explained at least once, the first one several times.
Re: GS4 Contradictions (Spoilers, almost every case)
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DCtc wrote:
Spoiler: Case 4-4 (The Hospital Staff are Deaf! or Stupid.)
This is actually something I was wondering myself while playing the game. It's not like the hospital staff wasn't there. Usually there is at least a couple of nurses in the hospital during night time too.
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Silenced pistols, probably.
That sounds like an easy explanation, but I can hardly see it as the thruth. In the pictures taken at the scene of the "crime", we can't see silencers anywhere. Also, Magnifi shot himself AFTER Valant had left the room. Valant heard the shot when he even wasn't there and came back after hearing it.
I know silencers only make the bang smaller, but it won't really reduce the sound to zero. That said, whether or not a silencer was used, the staff would have heard a noise.
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Nego wrote:
That sounds like an easy explanation, but I can hardly see it as the thruth. In the pictures taken at the scene of the "crime", we can't see silencers anywhere. Also, Magnifi shot himself AFTER Valant had left the room. Valant heard the shot when he even wasn't there and came back after hearing it.
I know silencers only make the bang smaller, but it won't really reduce the sound to zero. That said, whether or not a silencer was used, the staff would have heard a noise.
I know silencers only make the bang smaller, but it won't really reduce the sound to zero. That said, whether or not a silencer was used, the staff would have heard a noise.
I belive Valent said that he was standing in the hallway when the shot went off. The shot could have been loud enough to be only heard outside the door.
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I don't know if this has been posted before or if it is correct.
Spoiler: Case 3
Blind or not, I guess she noticed her brooch was missing. She could have been just assuming it was her brooch, as she knew she had dropped it.
Spoiler: Some gibberish...
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Poltergust wrote:
So, if no one has any objections to my slippers and paint contradiction, then I guess that wraps that one up. There is no reason to why there is paint on the bottom of the slippers, Alita took them off after taking a step out of the noodle stand, and then promptly threw them out in the trashcan AWAY from the paint. Contradiction found! =D
Okay! Finally played through to that point in 4-2! Here's a transcript.
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Alita did say she threw her slippers "out" after stepping in the paint, but she doesn't say where. I'll stand by my previous explanation of Alita throwing them away in the street or somewhere and then Little Plum coming along and throwing them away in the trash can. The case description was just being a little too specific and assumptive I suppose.
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*runs off to find another*
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), and she told me that in the concert video when it shows a full shot of the stage, Machi isn't at the piano. I'll to look for myself later to see if she isn't just blind, but that could kind of half be a contradiction maybe.
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I have many yaoi OTPs which overlap... And most of which involve the Gavins.
I do write/support yuri and het from time to time though.
Re: GS4 Contradictions (Spoilers, almost every case)
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Nego wrote:
Actually, you can see Machi at the piano only during the time it gets a close up to him. You can't see him in the shot taken further away. There isn't anyone behind the drums either although Klavier said during the case that there was also a drummer on stage during the second act.
He also says there was a bassist but you never see the bass at all
Except the case.Anyway, something else I found odd in that case. When Lamiroir is singing, and she
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Things like crucial evidence in tailpipes stand out whereas plain old names like Ema Skye don't. Her name isn't even a pun, heh! Apollo probably read up every single one of Phoenix's trial records (except his last one), so it's not surprising if the names just sort of blurred together.
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Maro-chan wrote:
Nego wrote:
Actually, you can see Machi at the piano only during the time it gets a close up to him. You can't see him in the shot taken further away. There isn't anyone behind the drums either although Klavier said during the case that there was also a drummer on stage during the second act.
He also says there was a bassist but you never see the bass at all
Except the case.Anyway, something else I found odd in that case. When Lamiroir is singing, and she
If his guitar's made of wood, heat travels slowly through it. Although I have no idea what guitars are normally made of, or what Klavier's was.
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Lauren Order wrote:
I have a contradiction:
Spoiler: 4-4
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Oh, Nick. When will you ever learn?
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Spoiler: 4-4
Anyway, I found something else odd in Case 4...
When you go in the Mason System and talk to Zak, right before they go start their poker game, Phoenix seems surprised to see Olga... But then in the credits, Olga acts like she has a job at the Borscht Bowl Club. Huh? I mean, it's understandable that she'd pretend in 4-1, but still...
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Maro-chan wrote:
Anyway, I found something else odd in Case 4...
When you go in the Mason System and talk to Zak, right before they go start their poker game, Phoenix seems surprised to see Olga... But then in the credits, Olga acts like she has a job at the Borscht Bowl Club. Huh? I mean, it's understandable that she'd pretend in 4-1, but still...
When you go in the Mason System and talk to Zak, right before they go start their poker game, Phoenix seems surprised to see Olga... But then in the credits, Olga acts like she has a job at the Borscht Bowl Club. Huh? I mean, it's understandable that she'd pretend in 4-1, but still...
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Leo Aldwulf wrote:
I noticed something peculiar about Klavier's guitar playing. When in court, he plays air guitar from time to time, but he plays it left-handed. However, during the Guitar's Serenade performance, he was clearly playing his guitar right-handed. <_>
So?
I air-guitar left hnaded, and play it right-handed. When your playing on air, you don't need to use your better hand~
Or he could be ambidextrous.
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In 4-3 Ema says she's been on security detail all night. Now, she and Apollo are hanging around in the backstage hallway when they hear the "gunshots." So if Ema's been backstage this whole time (she also says she was supposed to be making sure no one unrelated got into the dresssing rooms), then shouldn't she have heard the real shots during the second act?
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Maro-chan wrote:
Aha! I think I found something this time!
In 4-3 Ema says she's been on security detail all night. Now, she and Apollo are hanging around in the backstage hallway when they hear the "gunshots." So if Ema's been backstage this whole time (she also says she was supposed to be making sure no one unrelated got into the dresssing rooms), then shouldn't she have heard the real shots during the second act?
In 4-3 Ema says she's been on security detail all night. Now, she and Apollo are hanging around in the backstage hallway when they hear the "gunshots." So if Ema's been backstage this whole time (she also says she was supposed to be making sure no one unrelated got into the dresssing rooms), then shouldn't she have heard the real shots during the second act?
Nice point :] Unfortunately it doesn't work too well.
At that time the second set was playing. If you go to the mixing board (after they let you play Guitar Serenade) you'll see that you can't even hear the gunshot unless you turn everything down and isolate Lamiroir's voice. There's a possiblity that the gunshot, coming from the room, might have been block off by the music.
Also Ema might have not been around that area the whole time. Remember there's an opposite backstage (where the small window on Lamiroir's wall is). Ema might have been there, but she probably didn't pay attention to the window. That and Klavier said that the small window on that wall is sound-proof, so she might have not heard anything.
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But if Ema had been by the backstage window, she still would have been able to see through it even if she couldn't hear through it. So, she still could have seen Daryan shoot LeTouse...
I have many yaoi OTPs which overlap... And most of which involve the Gavins.
I do write/support yuri and het from time to time though.
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In essence, he was doing what he always does: Working through the crime.
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