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This whole GS4 game is too...cartoon-ish (magic and hats..I prefer it to be 'mystic') and has driven off its original path.
I don't know, this might be because I didn't actually play Apollo Justice, mostly because I don't know Japanese or anything of the sort.
Am I the only one who thinks that the other arcs are spinoffs and wants more Phoenix Wright?
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I believe that the game was originally made for Phoenix, and for Phoenix it should stay.
What they made him become...*shutter*
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I for one love playing as a twenty-something year old, rather than the generic bishie 16-year-old kid.I'm still willing to give Apollo Justice a try though. I'll pass judgment after.
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It only means that Capcom has decided to lower the crowd age. Probably the humour is also 'younger' (I hate humour for kids, PW humour was somewhere in between and still funny)
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I just said "16" cuz the more recent RPG's these days seem to star 16 or 17-year-old kids bent on saving the world from destruction. >.>..
And if you look at games like Trauma Centre, Dr. Stiles seems to look younger with each game that comes out =\.
A mature cast was one of the things I liked a lot about the PW series.
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Roleplayer games are wearing thin in my mind because of that. I like playing the older characters... They have more of that thing called 'life experience'.
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Couldn't agree more. WTF?!?
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And, yes, the GS world is biased towards prosecution. It was done to make the game harder, but the whole 'arrogant prosecutor' behaviour (i.e. shutting the judge up) is a bit far off.
But isn't the real world biased a bit against defense attorneys? Food for thought.
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Admittedly though, there is bias towards the prosecution, else we wouldn't have the game in the first place. Also the 'AASHOULDALWAYSBEABOUTNICKCOSIHATECHANGE' argument seems prevalent among fans, yet I can't see why. Can we have some reasons please? :)
Edit: Apollo is 22, just a year younger than Phoenix was. I think some words need to be eaten, hmm ;)
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a lil better anyway. Maybe its the voice? All I know is Im gonna miss Gumshoe
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It could be a bias toward Phoenix. My reason?
You play with one set of characters and you get attached to them and their story. Then, something happens to them and the character list shifts. You start to resent the new characters because the old characters feel like that mean nothing.
But, for me anyway, that wears off. I was going to boycott the new game, but now I more curious than mad. So I'm definitely getting GS4.
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As for the change of characters, it was needed. Phoenix was a superlawyer now, besting everyone in court. It's a bit boring to play as such a person, and his story is very chewed out by now - 3-5 is the ending of the Fey story, the end. There's nothing to add to that, and that was definitely the main story in the PW trilogy. With AJ, they can start a new beginning have new stories.
That's not to say I wouldn't like a case explaining what happened to some of the most important characters - however, this has to be one case and one case only, and that's the end of it. From there, we start on Apollo's new story.
(I hope that made sense, I'm a bit distracted right now)
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I'm actually relieved to hear that (but I thought Phoenix was 24 in the first game? And 26 by T&T?). It would be nice if he'd look more like it though
I just needed to hear that his life/work experience was credible enough to think that he would be taken seriously in the courtroom. We can't have 16-year-olds thinking they could be lawyers and doctors straight out of high school now can we? 
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And you are right. That's why godmodding is a horrible thing in roleplaying....
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As for the change of characters, it was needed. Phoenix was a superlawyer now, besting everyone in court. It's a bit boring to play as such a person, and his story is very chewed out by now - 3-5 is the ending of the Fey story, the end. There's nothing to add to that, and that was definitely the main story in the PW trilogy. With AJ, they can start a new beginning have new stories.
That's not to say I wouldn't like a case explaining what happened to some of the most important characters - however, this has to be one case and one case only, and that's the end of it. From there, we start on Apollo's new story.
(I hope that made sense, I'm a bit distracted right now)
Its alright I got ya. My own personal opinion is that I hope that this series doesnt end up like the Megaman series (with so many freakin lawyers you cant keep track of who does what) As long as they do one lawyer not multiple ones, then I am happy.
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The hat and the magic stuff is childish, though, and AJ looks very very very very young (in the manner of PW art), I'd tag him 19 at most.
Maybe a final interim game during the 7 years? With proper endings to all characters?
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A possibility is still Kristoph, but there it stops for now.
And really, if they're doing three games for Apollo now, we'll be at least 3 years from now before the English version of AA6 is here.
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The ONLY thing I dislike about the change of cast is what they did to Phoenix to facilitate it. Regardless, the move has really divided the fanbase from what I've seen.
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on brand new cases of course.
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The ONLY thing I dislike about the change of cast is what they did to Phoenix to facilitate it. Regardless, the move has really divided the fanbase from what I've seen.
Guess the AA series would be starting all over again according to fandom right. Starting small and getting bigger right?
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He still get's a cameo. Be grateful. :/
I believe that the game was originally made for Phoenix, and for Phoenix it should stay.
What they made him become...*shutter*
It wasn't made for Phoenix. They were finished with Phoenix come GS3. I find it silly that you can't give Apollo a chance. :/
And besides, he's a better deeper character this way.
He's 22.
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He's 22.
I said this afterward:
I just said "16" cuz the more recent RPG's these days seem to star 16 or 17-year-old kids bent on saving the world from destruction. >.>..
And if you look at games like Trauma Centre, Dr. Stiles seems to look younger with each game that comes out =\.
A mature cast was one of the things I liked a lot about the PW series.
I'm actually relieved to hear that [he's 22]. It would be nice if he'd look more like it though
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I never said that, either. In fact, I think I said in a later post I wanted to play GS4....
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I'm going to have to become a neutral party. Pah...
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It's one thing to have played the game in Japanese and understand it, another thing to have played the game and not be able to read moonspeak, and quite off to complain about the elements of a game you don't even know.
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It wasn't made for Phoenix. They were finished with Phoenix come GS3. I find it silly that you can't give Apollo a chance. :/
There IS a difference between the "I don't want a new cast/Justice can suck it" and "GS4 looks good but I really don't like what they did to/how they handeled Phoenix" groups...
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I can assure you that AA:AJ will be just as silly, endearing, maddening, dramatic, bizarre, illogical, surprisng, and law-defying as any of the AA:PW games before it. So at least try to go into it with an open mind.
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