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:kyouya: - Too flashy. I couldn't help but think "show off" during the entire game...
:garyuu: - My absolute least favorite. He's so mysterious and just creeps me out all the time.
:haha: - Has big hair like Elvis. I think he just is suspicious, and I would not be able to work with him as a detective.
Valant - Too uncooperative.
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Valant is just... so stupidly arrogant. But I'd have to say I'm most disappointed in Ema, as she seems like she doesn't even care about justice anymore; just getting her science on. Whatever happened to helping people?
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Least favorite 10:
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1. Zak Gramayre
2. Wocky Kitaki
3. Wesley Sticker
4. Olga Orly
5. Payne
6. Machi Tobaye
7. Valant Gramayre
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:haha: I couldn't stand this guy even for a minute.
Spoiler: 4-3 Spoiler Ending
To me he was obvious as the killer from the beginning. He just acted far too suspicious. Especially since he was heading towards Sunshine Colosseum right after you talk to Lamiroir and then all the sudden- Lamiroir gets attacked by an unknown assailant (that didn't speak- hmmm~). Just drew too much attention to himself. And I'm not even talking about the hair that defies all gravity laws I've ever learned in my life.


@K2J: You have to remember- Ema is a bit touchy.
Spoiler: Ema spoiler
She failed her exam to be a forensic investigator, even though she had been studying it since she was a teenager. Then she gets stuck with detective. She probably doesn't seem to fond of the whole thing together.

That doesn't mean she doesn't care for justice. She's always been very scientific in her conclusions and even agreed with the idea that she could have possibly killed Jake Marshall in 1-5. Sometimes she thinks out of the box, but that itself is rare.
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Whoa, what's with all the Valant hate all of a sudden O_o Am I in the minority in thinking that Valant is awesome? :P

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As for least favorite, probably :chopchop: . Although actually I pretty much like all of the characters, including "little" Plum...
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Writer Awakened wrote:
Whoa, what's with all the Valant hate all of a sudden O_o Am I in the minority in thinking that Valant is awesome? :P

:varanbaran:: Alakazzzzauuuuuugh!


Trust me, you're not alone ♥♥ I liked him from the instant I met him, plus he has great theme music :D
Personally, I can't find a single character I dislike in the series. ^^
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It's not nessecarily that I wish they weren't in the game, I just didn't particularly like them.
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Holy shit, I loved Valant too. From the moment I saw him, I knew it was love. :edgy: But then, I love arrogant dumbasses.

Anyway, my least favorite character would probably be Alita. She was basically Dahlia, except she lacked most of what made Dahlia awesome and I didn't like her character design. And she was far too predictable. ...in fact, she may be the only character I didn't like.
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While there are a lot of PW characters I don't like (Lotta, Ini, Morgan, Ben/trilo, Max, Moe, Regina, Franziska, Dahlia, Bikini...) I don't think I hate anyone in Apollo yet... I'm tempted to say Wocky, but he isn't that bad. Drew Misham's creepyness made up for his lack of character, and Brushell was a funny lovechild of oldbag and dr hotti.
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Wesley Stickler annoyed me. I just wanted to shove that book in his face.
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Spoiler: 4-2
:minas: Uggh, I could tell I wasn't gonna like her before I even played the game.. =_= She was so annoying in the beginning, and got even worse by the end of the game.
:study: I don't even need to say why..
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How can any of you hate anybody in this game?

... Honestly, I loved the whole cast. Some more than others, but this entire game was like the polar opposite of case 2-2.
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Stickler was annoying as hell to cross-examine just because every time you press, you get to experience the joy of waiting for five minutes while he fiddles with his book, and then he spouts 8 text boxes of nonsense words at you. And since it was my first playthrough, it was all slowtext, too.

Spoiler: "4-2"
Alita also annoyed me as a villain simply because her character archetype has already been done to death in the course of the series, and she doesn't really have any distinct traits to make her memorable as a character. I was hoping against hope that all the suspicion around her was going to be a fakeout and that the real killer would be Eldoon somehow.

Spoiler: "4-4"
:garyuu: was a great villain, but then they went and watered down his entire character at the end by giving him the most utterly petty motive possible to have commissioned a forgery and committed multiple murders.

Those were pretty much my only issues.
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I didn't really HATE anyone...

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Didn't care for a lot of the cast of 4-2...

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That Brushel dude without a doubt. Not only did I not like his character at all, his perceive was annoying as hell.
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Prosecutor von Karma wrote:
:kyouya: - Too flashy. I couldn't help but think "show off" during the entire game...
:garyuu: - My absolute least favorite. He's so mysterious and just creeps me out all the time.


BLASPHEMY

:beef:


I think the only character that really made me "hate" them would be Valant, he's retardedly annoying XP
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The only character I hated, I hated a LOT. Spark Brushel. He was so annoying. His testimony made me want to jump into the screen and choke him to death. I hope he's a murder victim in the next game where I'll never have to deal with him again. :chinami:
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arimnaes wrote:
Spoiler: "4-4"
:garyuu: was a great villain, but then they went and watered down his entire character at the end by giving him the most utterly petty motive possible to have commissioned a forgery and committed multiple murders.

Spoiler:
Which would you find more creepy. Someone who mass murders for a good reason, or someone who mass murders for hardly any reason at all? For me, I'd say the latter :D

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arimnaes wrote:
Spoiler: "4-4"
:garyuu: was a great villain, but then they went and watered down his entire character at the end by giving him the most utterly petty motive possible to have commissioned a forgery and committed multiple murders.


Spoiler: 4-4
I thought it fitted his character admirably. Like said in some other thread, he obviously prefers style over substance, making reputation a good thing to murder for.


And about Brushel:
Spoiler: 4-4
I thought he was, in the end, one of the most clever characters all around. By "Present Day", he'd figured out what Phoenix had AND MORE. He was probably the most important witness of all, too.

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Hmmm, the magician plot as a whole in 4-4 didn't appeal to me much. But I don't really know about the characters...
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This is actually a hard question to answer. Although some of the characters had annoying tendencies, they usually made up for it in there other traits. I guess I wasn't too fond of Alita.
Spoiler: 4-2
I almost felt like they were trying for a Dahlia-like coldness (especially with the switching between the innocent Alita and the cold version of herself), but just didn't make it work well so she just came out more obnoxious than awesomely evil and manipulative.

Can't think of any others that really got to me.
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I didn't really hate anybody, but I found some characters really annoying to no end. I wanted to rip my hair out during several occasions.

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Alita... I didn't really hate her, but when you try to talk to her, she would never answer. I seriously thought that she couldn't understand english or something. Maybe she was that dense. *Facepalm* It didn't score her any points when she revealed her true self. At least I knew she could speak in a coherent language.

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Am I the only one who doesn't hate Alita?
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Syke y Ayasato wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't hate Alita?


Nah, I like her too. She was one of the few in 4-2 I liked. Liked but not liked.

And seriously, can Romein even really qualify as someone you can hate?
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I mean he said, like, one line and died.

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Syke y Ayasato wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't hate Alita?


Most likely.

She wasn't a bad character that Capcom created, but still, there were better witnesses. I can't really say anything off hand at the very moment because I can't remember all the details of that case at the moment. <.< Damn short-term memory.
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All this Alita hate just makes me cry...
Spoiler: "4-2"
I dont get the people who say that she was too much like Dahlia. Dahlia always acted out of desperation or spite...Alita commited crimes out of self-preservation, because it was her way of advancing in the world and she didnt want anyone to bring her down.
As for who I didn't like, ...probably Lamiroir. She was too nice, her music annoyed me, and I didnt like the little "truth" you learned about her in the end.
Spoiler: "4-4"
It was all too damn obvious, even though she was said to have died anyway. It was Godot 2.0, thats what it was.
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Spoiler: 4-2, 2-2, 3-5
Why is everybody comparing Alita to Dahlia? I actually thought Alita was more similar to Ini/Mimi, what with the whole doctor/nurse, revenge for malpractice incident (Pal Meraktis lawl). Dahlia killed mainly to cover up her other crimes/murders.


For what it's worth, I thought banana-and-wings girl was neat. :mina:

Spoiler: 4-2
Actually, I sorta hate Pal Meraktis for A. hitting Phoenix and running XD and B. strangling Alita with a lamp cord :O

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Writer Awakened wrote:
Spoiler: 4-2, 2-2, 3-5
Why is everybody comparing Alita to Dahlia? I actually thought Alita was more similar to Ini/Mimi, what with the whole doctor/nurse, revenge for malpractice incident (Pal Meraktis lawl). Dahlia killed mainly to cover up her other crimes/murders.


For what it's worth, I thought banana-and-wings girl was neat. :mina:

Spoiler: 4-2
Actually, I sorta hate Pal Meraktis for A. hitting Phoenix and running XD and B. strangling Alita with a lamp cord :O

Spoiler: 3-5, 4-2
Well Alita goes to Meraktis to cover up her own crime of not informing Wocky about the bullet and leaving it in, she uses her boyfriend to cover for her crime (neither Phoenix nor Wocky knew or believed that their respective girlfriends had done anything wrong and both are quick to jump to their defenses even though it hurts them), and she has two sides to her personality (although this last one doesn't seem uncommon to PW/AJ villains). It isn't perfect, but there are certainly some serious similarities.


I'm going to add your hated character to my list. I hadn't thought of him.
Spoiler: 4-2
That *insert cussing*. He could have killed Phoenix! And he tried to kill Alita. Not only that, but he lefty Wocky to die. Yes, he rates as a hated character.

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Mia_Fey wrote:
Spoiler: 3-5, 4-2
Well Alita goes to Meraktis to cover up her own crime of not informing Wocky about the bullet and leaving it in, she uses her boyfriend to cover for her crime (neither Phoenix nor Wocky knew or believed that their respective girlfriends had done anything wrong and both are quick to jump to their defenses even though it hurts them), and she has two sides to her personality (although this last one doesn't seem uncommon to PW/AJ villains). It isn't perfect, but there are certainly some serious similarities.


Yeah, that's true. So maybe she's a
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Dahlia/Ini cross. With a banana dress, apparently. XD

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Enh, for her part in the game, I thought Alita was okay. Of course, you get to break her on the stand. Breaking someone on the stand is a great way to deal with an annoying character (okay, sure, they're annoying, but it gives you all the more satisfaction when you slowly grind them to dust!).

I vote for Stickler. Waiting for his book closing animation was annoying, and his prattling just wasn't as endearing as Oldbag's was. Of course, he became INSTANT HILARITY when you found out what his crime was (and why he did it!)
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:kyouya: was boring.

:takita: is a lot more annoying in English than Japanese. Poor guy.

:yummy: aside from like the few moments where she's all YAY SCIENCE.
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I think I would have liked Alita normally, but something about her animations just annoyed me...I can't quite put my finger on it, but they look a little strange...that kind of ruined the character for m, unfortunately :sadshoe:
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I couldn't hate anyone in the game. Everyone has something to like about them.
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I didn't hate Klavier but I thought he wasn't developed enough. I admire that they tried to change the pace of the game and make the prosecutor not your rival, but without a strong rival in court I didn't feel any excitement. They really didn't milk the situation at the end of 4-4 like they could've. It was a perfect opportunity to really flesh out his character at the last minute but what they did was too little, too late.
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Spark Brushel. "Irritating Character Needs Teeth Punched In", end quote.

Stickler was a great character with an ANNOYING flaw. STOP WITH THE BLOODY BOOK! Then again, I hate any character whose animation interferes with me getting to the actual text (Stickler, Yogi, Wellington, etc.), particularly first-run, since there's no option to adjust the text speed from the start.

Valant bugged me somewhat. For whatever reason, I liked Young Valant better than Old Valant.

I didn't care for what they did with Ema's attitude. The Snackoos are funny, but they could have kept that without draining her of all positive emotion (except for "Ooh, science!" when you present her the opportunity to use a new toy.)

And Hobohodo... in discussing the character with my girlfriend (who didn't want to read into this game too much, having not finished T&T yet, but saw some of his text), we came to the conclusion that he's Dumbledore with a hobo hat. Wise mentor, you know he's on the side of good but his morals are shaky, always seems to know much more than he's letting on, usually to your detriment, hauls your ass out of the fire in the nick (haha) of time with a big spell/piece of evidence... there's really no other explanation for the character. On the flip side, I LOVED his characterization in his final case. It felt like he had finally come into his own, and had a command of the courtroom that no defense attorney's ever been given in this series... until you get railroaded. DAMN, it was hard convincing myself to present that page.
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Good to know I'm not alone in loving Valant. He's possibly my favorite character in the game.

But on to my least favorite.
Zak Gramarye. Possibly because:
Spoiler: Case 4-4 and 4-1
When he acted as Shadi Smith he was kinda...creepy. It was just way to different from his sort of happier personality in Phoenix's flashback trial. Not only did it bug me that he would go so far as to destroy the one who tried to help him, but don't you think he kind of owed Phoenix? Nick's a pretty good actor. That's what he went to college for...originally. Zak could have prevented Nick from losing his badge if he'd just told Nick his plans.


Then there's the matter of Klavier Gavin.
He's German, right? ...That makes three German prosecutors, and the worst one so far. Not only is he a rock star, but he's pretty whiny when he puts his mind to it...It's just so strange. I don't think that's how a prosecutor should act.

Actually, the cast of 4-2 was possibly, in my opinion, one of the best casts of the entire series. Except for Alita. She was just strange. Poor banana girl.

And...Why all the Brushel hate? I loved Bushel! I mean, he's certainly nothing to obsess over, but he's a really good guy. Smart, too.
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Since I'm only replying to something from a previous game that isn't spoilery, I took the quote out of the spoiler tag.

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Nick's a pretty good actor. That's what he went to college for...originally.


Not exactly. He was an art student at Ivy University, but his exact discipline was never explicitly stated. As it mentions on his character page, Shu Takumi implied he was studying to become an actor, while the character artist suggests he was studying to become a manga artist. The fact that any discrepancy exists is reason enough to believe it's not official either way, and until they write the specific into the storyline, it remains speculation.

Though I will say Feenie can be fairly convincing when he wants to be, so even if he had no formal acting training, he'd probably make a very good amateur actor anyway.
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And Hobohodo... in discussing the character with my girlfriend (who didn't want to read into this game too much, having not finished T&T yet, but saw some of his text), we came to the conclusion that he's Dumbledore with a hobo hat.


Spoiler: ZOMG
Snape kills Hobo-dore?! :larry:

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Holy Hell wrote:
How can any of you hate anybody in this game?

... Honestly, I loved the whole cast. Some more than others, but this entire game was like the polar opposite of case 2-2.


Agreed.
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