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So, after beating the game, I had a lot of thoughts on characters. Time to share them. =O

Starting with case-specific characters and then main characters...


Olga Orly: Her shy ruse never really had me(Mostly because I thought she was the murderer for a while), but she was an interesting character. Her sprites were neat, too. I wouldn't mind seeing her reappear in GS5.

Winston Payne: As annoying and pointless as ever! =D

Wocky Kitaki: I really didn't like Wocky. He never really learned his lesson(Except maybe in the credits), and the 'gangsta attitude' really annoyed me. His story was kinda sad, but still, he was pretty annoying.

Guy Eldoon: Much better than I originally thought. When he got rid of the noodles and went into uber doctor mode, he became awesome. Shame that he had to put them on again.

Plum Kitaki: I expected Oldbag 2.0, but she was pretty cool. Not much else to say, since she was only around for a little while.

Big Wins Kitaki: ...He had maybe...10 lines? There isn't much to say.

Alita Tiala: I hated her from the beginning. I pegged her as the murderer from the beginning. And, turns out, I was right on the money. Suck it, Alita. You deserve what you got.

Wesley Stickler: He was a really annoying character. His rants, his over dramatization of everything, his appearance, everything. I really didn't like him. Though, he did have some pretty cool breakdown animations.

Romein LeTouse: He was pretty cool while he was around...Not that that was for every long at all.

Lamiroir: Pretty cool overall. She was one of my favourite witnesses, and seeing her come back as Apollo and Trucy's mother was quite unexpected. I really hope she comes back in GS5...There's a lot of stuff that can be done with her character.

Machi Tobaye: I liked Machi. He was a neat character, even though the "English speaker" plot twist was really obvious, he was still likable. Side note: I've always been bothered about this....What was Machi's reason for needing money? It was never cleared up, and it really bothered me the whole time. My theory was that he wanted to pay for Lamiroir's operation...But there's no confirmation on that.

Daryan Crescend: Of the killers, he was one of my favourites. By process of elimination, it was pretty obvious that he did it. However, I couldn't help but hope that he didn't throughout the case. He was pretty awesome overall, though he did get a bit mean in the end.

Vera Misham: My favourite defendant other than Phoenix. She was the first 'shy character' in the series who was ACTUALLY shy. It was quite refreshing. Also, she had some of the cutest animations in the game...How could anyone hate Vera? <3 There was a lot of room for development in Vera...I really hope she returns for GS5.

Drew Misham: Admittedly, we saw very little from Drew, but he was an interesting character nonetheless. At first, I hated him for making Phoenix lose his badge...But he seemed genuinely sorry for it. In the end, I liked him, though not as much as some other characters. Also, the "watching the Wright Offices over the years"/"Drawing Apollo's cases" thing was really interesting...However, it was only a sidestory and wasn't touched upon a lot, unfortunately.

Spark Brushel: When I first saw him, I was sure that I was going to be annoyed by Spark. To my astonishment, he was actually one of the cooler witnesses in the game. He seemed eager to help, and was actually pretty damn awesome. I must admit, I suspected him of murder at one point(Due to him being tied to virtually everyone else in some way, and him being everywhere that was suspicious), but thankfully, Spark was innocent. Again, he'd be a good candidate for returning in GS5.

Zak Gramarye/Shadi Enigmar/Shadi Smith: Well, what to say. It's one of the most detailed backstories we've ever seen in a victim for sure...However, I wasn't too fond of his personality. He kind of annoyed me, and he could have prevented Phoenix from losing his badge. So...Eh.

Valant Gramarye: Well, I certainly didn't expect him to be so involved in the plot...However, his over dramatization of like, everything, was annoying. But also, Bunnies! =D

Meekins: Was more likable in this game...But was mostly the same as ever.

Gumshoe: Same old lovable Gumshoe. COME BACK IN THE NEXT ONE, GUMSHOE! ;_;

Judge: Same as ever. <3 Udgey.

Ema: Her presence kinda irritated me, to be honest. She really just needed to be for the forensics stuff, and Gumshoe should be around for the normal detective stuff. She's a pretty cool character, but still. =\

Klavier: He was a pretty damn cool guy...My only issues with him was that he doesn't have a very interesting past. Also, he really wasn't threatening at all. He didn't feel big, bad, or evil like the other prosecutors do...Still, cool guy.

Kristoph: He tried his best to beat Dahlia...But failed. He was second, though! He was an interesting character, and a cool villain. Neat breakdown animation, though.

Trucy Wright: She was kind of a Maya wannabe. She even did her best to get herself kidnapped(Though she had to do it herself)...Still, she was pretty likable. Just not as good as Maya. Or Pearl. Or Mia. Etc.

Apollo Justice: Well, he seemed like PW1 Phoenix magnified times a lot. He never gained confidence, was always getting beat up, etc. He was a good character, but he needs a lot of confidence to be cool in GS5. And what's up with his WTF animation? His mouth becomes...very...odd. Still, he being Trucy's brother was very unexpected and cool.

Phoenix Wright: Phoenix really bothered me in this game. In the beginning, he was very mysterious and such. That was alright. His investigation was more like original Phoenix. That was good. But in his court case, Phoenix was WAY TOO OVERCONFIDENT! That's not Phoenix! >_< I'd like him to be playable again in the next game...With his old attitude.


So that's that. A completely random analysis of various characters.
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Klavier: He was a pretty damn cool guy...My only issues with him was that he doesn't have a very interesting past. Also, he really wasn't threatening at all. He didn't feel big, bad, or evil like the other prosecutors do...Still, cool guy.

Because all prosecutors are supposed to be the spawn of Satan, right?
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Phoenix Wright: Phoenix really bothered me in this game. In the beginning, he was very mysterious and such. That was alright. His investigation was more like original Phoenix. That was good. But in his court case, Phoenix was WAY TOO OVERCONFIDENT! That's not Phoenix! >_< I'd like him to be playable again in the next game...With his old attitude.

Hmm, yes, let's not have Nick undergo any significant change throughout the course of his life. Let's have him stay completely unchanged throughout the entire series, and his personality should remain exactly the same throughout the entire story. Sounds good!
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Zak Gramarye/Shadi Enigmar/Shadi Smith: Well, what to say. It's one of the most detailed backstories we've ever seen in a victim for sure...However, I wasn't too fond of his personality. He kind of annoyed me, and he could have prevented Phoenix from losing his badge. So...Eh.

How could he prevent that? He didn't know the evidence was fake, and if he wasn't planning on disappearing, he was hoping Phoenix would get him off legitimately.

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Gumshoe: Same old lovable Gumshoe. COME BACK IN THE NEXT ONE, GUMSHOE! ;_;

Gumshoe should not come back. It would be too clingy to the past

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Judge: Same as ever. <3 Udgey.

We have yet to see a black judge. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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Klavier: He was a pretty damn cool guy...My only issues with him was that he doesn't have a very interesting past. Also, he really wasn't threatening at all. He didn't feel big, bad, or evil like the other prosecutors do...Still, cool guy.

I understand the gripe about him not having much of a past, but he doesn't have to be evil. I prefer a good prosecutor interested in the truth than for some other reason.

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Kristoph: He tried his best to beat Dahlia...But failed.

I don't think either were the most evil, but they are up there in the top 10 or so.

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Trucy Wright: She was kind of a Maya wannabe. She even did her best to get herself kidnapped(Though she had to do it herself)...Still, she was pretty likable. Just not as good as Maya. Or Pearl. Or Mia. Etc.

Considering she kidnapped herself to benefit Apollo, and is not horribly ditzy, but the opposite, she is in no way a Maya wannabe.

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Apollo Justice: Well, he seemed like PW1 Phoenix magnified times a lot. He never gained confidence, was always getting beat up, etc. He was a good character, but he needs a lot of confidence to be cool in GS5. And what's up with his WTF animation? His mouth becomes...very...odd. Still, he being Trucy's brother was very unexpected and cool.

His WTF Animation looks like the Grinch

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Phoenix Wright: Phoenix really bothered me in this game. In the beginning, he was very mysterious and such. That was alright. His investigation was more like original Phoenix. That was good. But in his court case, Phoenix was WAY TOO OVERCONFIDENT! That's not Phoenix! >_< I'd like him to be playable again in the next game...With his old attitude.

If Phoenix was still bumbling and underconfident, it would show that he hasn't grown in seven years. However, at the end of 3-5, it is established that Phoenix is brilliant and competent, so it would only make sense for him to be competent. Playing as a competent lawyer was pretty awesome....

...up till the presentation of fake evidence of course.
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Gyakuten Phoenix wrote:
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Klavier: He was a pretty damn cool guy...My only issues with him was that he doesn't have a very interesting past. Also, he really wasn't threatening at all. He didn't feel big, bad, or evil like the other prosecutors do...Still, cool guy.

Because all prosecutors are supposed to be the spawn of Satan, right?
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Phoenix Wright: Phoenix really bothered me in this game. In the beginning, he was very mysterious and such. That was alright. His investigation was more like original Phoenix. That was good. But in his court case, Phoenix was WAY TOO OVERCONFIDENT! That's not Phoenix! >_< I'd like him to be playable again in the next game...With his old attitude.

Hmm, yes, let's not have Nick undergo any significant change throughout the course of his life. Let's have him stay completely unchanged throughout the entire series, and his personality should remain exactly the same throughout the entire story. Sounds good!

Fact: The best way to get your point across is to be condescending and insulting toward the other person's opinions. :yuusaku:
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That was good. But in his court case, Phoenix was WAY TOO OVERCONFIDENT!


Nick's wins simply got the best of him. Remember, during the three years he had established himself pretty soildy (I'm sure cases with such high profile people as Edgeworth, the von Karmas would get him pretty noticed.) And Klavier was 17 years old and a newbie, he simply got over-confident because he had taken down much worse. He's only human.

(Franziska had a 5 year wining streak and was the daughter of a von Karma, that's a bit different.)
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Fact: The best way to get your point across is to be condescending and insulting toward the other person's opinions. :yuusaku:

Aha ahahaha... sorry. I wasn't felling happy at the time...
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Gyakuten Phoenix wrote:
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Klavier: He was a pretty damn cool guy...My only issues with him was that he doesn't have a very interesting past. Also, he really wasn't threatening at all. He didn't feel big, bad, or evil like the other prosecutors do...Still, cool guy.

Because all prosecutors are supposed to be the spawn of Satan, right?
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Phoenix Wright: Phoenix really bothered me in this game. In the beginning, he was very mysterious and such. That was alright. His investigation was more like original Phoenix. That was good. But in his court case, Phoenix was WAY TOO OVERCONFIDENT! That's not Phoenix! >_< I'd like him to be playable again in the next game...With his old attitude.

Hmm, yes, let's not have Nick undergo any significant change throughout the course of his life. Let's have him stay completely unchanged throughout the entire series, and his personality should remain exactly the same throughout the entire story. Sounds good!


Yeah, he'll be just like Goku, a one dimensional hero.
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Zak Gramarye/Shadi Enigmar/Shadi Smith: Well, what to say. It's one of the most detailed backstories we've ever seen in a victim for sure...However, I wasn't too fond of his personality. He kind of annoyed me, and he could have prevented Phoenix from losing his badge. So...Eh.

How could he prevent that? He didn't know the evidence was fake, and if he wasn't planning on disappearing, he was hoping Phoenix would get him off legitimately.


Errrr..... I could've sworn he had the real diary page, so he would've known it was fake in an instant. Though he kept his mouth shut for Valant's sake.
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