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Just finished my Mshe playthrough last night (complete with Shinjiro ending <3). Overall, really loved the experience more with Mshe than I did MC. Mshe's just way more awesome in terms of dialogue and even many of her altered s.links are better for the most part (like, I actually LIKE Yukari, and I could actually stand Fuuka's s.link for once). The only S.link that was a bit 'um...' was Aigis's at parts but that's because the s.link is pretty much a copy-paste of MC's.

The only disappointment for me was the lack of cutscenes at certain moments. The Awakening wasn't as bad since it was still represented with visuals and music but other parts had music for those scenes removed since they don't sync anymore, which really does kill the impact of certain scenes. The visual novel style could have worked better since games like Wild Arms XF and Blazblue make great use of it but P3P wasn't bad at all.
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Just finished my Mshe playthrough last night (complete with Shinjiro ending <3). Overall, really loved the experience more with Mshe than I did MC. Mshe's just way more awesome in terms of dialogue and even many of her altered s.links are better for the most part (like, I actually LIKE Yukari, and I could actually stand Fuuka's s.link for once). The only S.link that was a bit 'um...' was Aigis's at parts but that's because the s.link is pretty much a copy-paste of MC's.

Same here. xD It's already a given that I can relate more to MShe because she's female, but I'm also more comfortable dealing with happier dialogue options compared to MC's more aloof ones. MC's still great, though. Oh, and I thought the two new Social Links were brilliantly written. <3

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The only disappointment for me was the lack of cutscenes at certain moments. The Awakening wasn't as bad since it was still represented with visuals and music but other parts had music for those scenes removed since they don't sync anymore, which really does kill the impact of certain scenes. The visual novel style could have worked better since games like Wild Arms XF and Blazblue make great use of it but P3P wasn't bad at all.

Which scenes are you talking about? Everything seems pretty much the same to me, except the fact that the Command Room recordings now have background music--that one I noticed. Then again, I'm currently at October so... yeah. Haven't seen everything yet.

Speaking of which...
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SHINJIIIIII. ;3; Man, I kept telling myself not to go anywhere near this Social Link yet but I couldn't help myself. It's... so tragically beautiful. </3 But I might end up not pursuing lover status for Star and Justice like I originally planned now that this has happened. The compulsive RPer in me won't stand for it! >.<; I'll have to get this run over with quick; I want that Shinji ending!

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The only disappointment for me was the lack of cutscenes at certain moments. The Awakening wasn't as bad since it was still represented with visuals and music but other parts had music for those scenes removed since they don't sync anymore, which really does kill the impact of certain scenes. The visual novel style could have worked better since games like Wild Arms XF and Blazblue make great use of it but P3P wasn't bad at all.

Which scenes are you talking about? Everything seems pretty much the same to me, except the fact that the Command Room recordings now have background music--that one I noticed. Then again, I'm currently at October so... yeah. Haven't seen everything yet.


It's mainly scenes like The Moonlight Bridge scene with Aigis+Ryoji and the scene that was on graduation day. The total lack of music in those scenes just sucked the energy right out of them, even if the scene wasn't shown in anime cutscenes. They could have at least looped the music somehow or made new music that doesn't have to be synced :/.

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Speaking of which...
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SHINJIIIIII. ;3; Man, I kept telling myself not to go anywhere near this Social Link yet but I couldn't help myself. It's... so tragically beautiful. </3 But I might end up not pursuing lover status for Star and Justice like I originally planned now that this has happened. The compulsive RPer in me won't stand for it! >.<; I'll have to get this run over with quick; I want that Shinji ending!


Lol, I originally planned on just doing Shinjiro and Ryoji's romantic s.link paths for 'internal story' sake but I accidentally picked all Akihiko's romance flags and Theo's just amusing soooo...

Am I the only one disappointed you couldn't get a lovers path with Hidetoshi? At least Bebe (not that I wanted to have a path with him) has the excuse of going to another country....
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Just got past the first full moon with Aigis. Playing MShe and yes, I named her Minako.

Theo's so hot but he's such a dork... it's so funny.

I freaking love Junpei's social link. I'm almost disappointed they can't get romantic because of the plot with Chidori and everything...

Oh, and Battle Panties > High-cut Armor lol

Edit: Is it just me or is Tanaka ten times more pedo-riffic with the female MC? :/
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@Robin Goodfellow- Noooo, not the really good scenes! ;~; I hope I don't get too disappointed. I'm having a real blast so far. Lol for getting all the flags for Akihiko by accident. I had to research it up to make sure I don't screw things up. xD

I'm not a big fan of Hidetoshi but I've been seeing complaining on different boards about that. Maybe he's just not the relationships kind of guy? I dunno. o3o You could always say he likes MShe but was too shy/proud/etc. to confess out or something. I haven't maxed that particular Social Link so I can't really give a first-hand opinion.


@fatalfeline- I didn't get that impression, but I'm at like... rank 4. Does the dialogue change at all compared to MC? And yeah, I was disappointed you get no lovers path for Junpei as well. He's a real sweetheart. <3 But at the very least
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And yeah, I was disappointed you get no lovers path for Junpei as well. He's a real sweetheart. <3 But at the very least
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you get the option to confess your love to him later on in the game.

Or so I heard.

Well you can admit that to Rio and Yuko while at the sports trip during the summer (in Inaba! <3)

Edit: So you can become lovers with Ken. I don't know but something seems just... wrong with that. :| Especially since you can also be with Shinji. AND Akihiko. Kinda awkward.
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I'm pretty sure it's not during the Inaba event, but maybe it's a requirement? I hear you can do it some time in January.

Hahaha yeah, that does feel kind of wrong. xD But I read somewhere that a funny conversation between Ken and Akihiko in Tartarus will trigger if you happen to romance them together so I'll probably go for it. ILU SHINJI I PROMISE I WONT TOUCH (hurr) ANYONE ELSE NEXT TIME. ;3; <3
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ILU SHINJI I PROMISE I WONT TOUCH (hurr) ANYONE ELSE NEXT TIME. ;3; <3

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Pharos: "Good night... my dearest."

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To anyone going for lovers status on the Star S.Link, I highly recommend hanging out with him after you've maxed.
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To anyone going for lovers status on the Star S.Link, I highly recommend hanging out with him after you've maxed.
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hmmmmmm? *eyebrow raise*

Edit: Oh god...
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The part where Shinjiro gets shot is even more heart-wrenching in P3P for some reason... even if he lives. Maybe it's a good thing they got rid of most animated cutscenes? And Akihiko's resolution is just as powerful when Shinji's alive, even though I didn't cry like last time. XD

And, man... I never replayed FES (which was the first version of P3 I got) and so all of the irony and foreshadowing can be tough sometimes. xD
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lol damn Ikutsuki and his great acting. The man could pass a lie detector.

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Arrrgh I wanna talk about how excited I am but I don't want to read any S.Link spoilers because I don't have it yet! Even minor stuff like "you can do this and that etc."

I don't like Yukari much, but I think that would change playing her through the female MC. With Minato it's like I DON'T NEED YOU SAVING ME FROM GANG RAPE I CAN HANDLE MYSELF JUST FINE WITHOUT YOUR MANLY HELP :chinami: *reverse link*
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Pharos: "Good night... my dearest."

Me: o_o


That was my EXACT reaction when I first heard it. Poor Mshe, she gets the pedo vibes with both Ken AND Pharos...

Spoiler: December
I have to say though, that line makes Ryoji's farewell more depressing T_T


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I don't like Yukari much, but I think that would change playing her through the female MC. With Minato it's like I DON'T NEED YOU SAVING ME FROM GANG RAPE I CAN HANDLE MYSELF JUST FINE WITHOUT YOUR MANLY HELP :chinami: *reverse link*


Yukari's soooo much more likeable as Mshe. Really enjoyed her link from the 'best friend' angle. Hell, Mshe makes Fuuka and Mitsuru's s.links better too...
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HOSHIIII...
Spoiler: Theodore Final Date
I think I may have "accidentally" lured Theo into bed LMFAO! God I love this game. x'D

And I agree, that extra line does make New Year's Eve a lot more heart-wrenching. :(

I'm down to my last month in the game. Might be able to finish my first MShe run some time this weekend. I'll probably pick up FES for The Answer before I start my second playthrough.
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HOSHIIII...
Spoiler: Theodore Final Date
I think I may have "accidentally" lured Theo into bed LMFAO! God I love this game. x'D


lol awesome

Edit: Is it just me or are all of the Gekkoukan teachers incompetent?
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Edit: Is it just me or are all of the Gekkoukan teachers incompetent?

I wouldn't say incompetent. I think the better word would be... charming? xD I hated Ekoda's guts, though. He's like... the Morooka of P3. Except a lot easier on the eyes.


Finally finished my first run last night. *sniff* ;3;
Spoiler: Final battle spoilers, maybe?
I love how you hear Shinji's voice last during the final battle. It yanked my ship horn in the most beautiful way. <33

I think they did a stellar job with the ending; better than how the PS2 version presented it, in my opinion. I could better understand everything that went on. But I agree with Robin that they could've done with music during the Ryoji+Aigis scene, even if it were just some subtle static in the background.

Anyhoo, I'm off to get started on The Answer (urrrgggh more grinding) so I can finally get on with my Shinji playthrough. <3
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Mmm, I loved Persona 3 FES (still the best RPG IMO), but I just did a second playtrough so I'm not going to play the PSP version immediately.

The new MC is hot though :D

They should really try to get Nocturne on PSP too.
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Wait, so heroine can't hook up with Yukari but she CAN hook up with the boy that's like ten years old? Great. :yuusaku:

Seriously, Persona needs more same-sex relationships. Even freaking .hack beats Persona in that regard.
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FeMC and Yukari have such big lesbo vibes that it's not even funny. XD Or wait, maybe it is.

I'm not even mentioning Yukari and Mitsuru here.
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Seriously, Persona needs more same-sex relationships.

The closest you can get to a same-sex relationship would be the Aeon social link. And a certain female assistant, or so I heard; haven't tried that one out myself.

I think I'm going to give up on The Answer for now. There's so much grinding going on it's not even funny. =u=; I'm contemplating just watching the entire thing on YouTube. Oh, well... Guess it's time to get started on my Shinji run~ <3
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Nii wrote:
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Seriously, Persona needs more same-sex relationships.

The closest you can get to a same-sex relationship would be the Aeon social link. And a certain female assistant, or so I heard; haven't tried that one out myself.

I think I'm going to give up on The Answer for now. There's so much grinding going on it's not even funny. =u=; I'm contemplating just watching the entire thing on YouTube. Oh, well... Guess it's time to get started on my Shinji run~ <3


Yeah, Aigis's is very...interesting. VERY interesting.

As for Liz's as Mshe, there's a few lines but then it gets waved away as 'friendship'.

Someone told me if you choose to stay loyal to Shinji, Christmas gets depressing...

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Since apparantly if you talk to Junpei, he talks about how you and him are the only ones in the dorm/spending Christmas alone since Shinji's in the hospital : (

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Someone told me if you choose to stay loyal to Shinji, Christmas gets depressing...

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Since apparantly if you talk to Junpei, he talks about how you and him are the only ones in the dorm/spending Christmas alone since Shinji's in the hospital : (

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I... I think I'll comfort myself with thinking that MShe spends her Christmas with Shinji in the hospital. It's still sad, but it's a lot less depressing.

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Bwuuuuuh that happened to me. :c

Does something special happen if you're loyal to Shinji?

...And does a one-afternoon stand with Theo count as being loyal? lol
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I just beat it. Finally.

I know I've beaten the game before on another system... BUT THAT WAS SO COOL.

B-But I didn't get to see Shinjiro. :c

Oh god talking to Akinari's mom almost made me cry...
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I couldn't resist "spending time" with Theo as well LMAO! He was just too adorable. xD I wanted to go through all the romances during my first run but I just couldn't bring myself to cheat on Akihiko with a ten year-old boy. >3>; Ryoji was tempting, but... it didn't feel quite right. It was too much for my conscience to bear. On a different run, maybe.

AAAAAA Akinari. I wasn't able to max his social link. </3 Did we get closure scenes in the PS2 version? I don't remember there being any, but my memory's pretty hazy so I could've just forgotten about it.
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Have I mentioned how much I love September? Because I do. <3 In the P3verse, anyway. I wish I had more time to play but there are so many deadlines popping up for school, it isn't even funny. But anyway, here's a piece of fanart I found while I was browsing last night. Made me d'aww and b'aww at the same time. ;3;
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There's more where that came from, but I don't want to subject you guys to massive image spam, so... xD
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D'awwww, that's so cute! I thought Shinjiro would be way taller than her... maybe she's on her tippy-toes in excitement. XD

And for you Shinjiro/MShe shippers there's also this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpAvYwGPQfQ
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Yeah, that's the only thing that bothered me with that fanart. He's supposed to be about a head taller than her. But the tippy-toes work; I can actually see that happening. <3

OMG YESSSS I SAW THAT! Not too fond of some of the art in there, but it's a brilliant video nonetheless. <3 I've been trying my hand at doing my own fanart for a while but I can't get it to look how I want it to. I'll be sure to post it here if once I get it done, though.
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I was gonna get this and then I realised that free roam and the cutscenes get taken out so I said ´haha no´ and bought FES instead.

I´ve barely played it yet as I got it just before I went on holiday but Junpei annoys me already. >_>
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I was gonna get this and then I realised that free roam and the cutscenes get taken out so I said ´haha no´ and bought FES instead.

I´ve barely played it yet as I got it just before I went on holiday but Junpei annoys me already. >_>


No anime and you get to move around like in AA. You're on this board meaning you must have played and liked AA so what wrong with the visual novel style of moving? I hardly move much around the school anyway. I mostly go straight to the dood who "warps" you. Though I hate talking to him before exam week ><.
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Yeah, I was a bit annoyed with the way you move around in P3P at first, but I got over it fairly quickly. When you think about it, it's really not much different from the way you move in the PS2 games, only you're moving a cursor instead of the actual character.

And while I admit missing the cutscenes, they're mostly just at the very beginning (and I assume the end) of the game anyway. The only one I felt was a huge loss was Orpheus' awakening.

Really the major reasons you'd get P3P over FES are to have Persona on the go and to play the female main. Otherwise, yeah, I'd go with FES.
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Or you can be like me and have both. XD

Female main, cutscenes, AND The Answer!

Or if you don't want to play two full games just watch the cutscenes on Youtube.
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I was gonna get this and then I realised that free roam and the cutscenes get taken out so I said ´haha no´ and bought FES instead.

Portability, improved battle system, and the ability to set your PSP on sleep mode anywhere (including Tartarus--you're going to wish you had this option in the console, trust me) are pretty darn good trade-offs, though. Not to mention more alternate costumes, Vision Quest, new social links via the female route...

I assume you're only interested in the male route, which doesn't change much compared to FES, so getting that one instead was a practical move. And FES has The Answer, which is cool. I guess it's just a matter of whether you want to take the game along with you anywhere you go or not? I enjoy the game both ways, as a male and female protagonist, plus everything I listed above, so I thought P3P was well worth the money. <3
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Portability, improved battle system, and the ability to set your PSP on sleep mode anywhere (including Tartarus--you're going to wish you had this option in the console, trust me)

Oh god YES
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I assume you're only interested in the male route, which doesn't change much compared to FES, so getting that one instead was a practical move.


Actually, it was more like 'P3 costs 15 quid, P3P costs 45 quid. I'm a cheap bastard so I'll buy the former.'
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@fatalfeline- Inorite? It was like a dream come true. ;3; <3

@Sandwich- Lol, that works too. xD


Aaaaaaa I haven't touched the game for about a week now. Lousy seniors school and their lousy French requirements... =A= I can't wait until school's over so I can finally get into some well-deserved social linking/Shinji-ing/fanart-ing.

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hurrrrrrrrrrrr

I saw that on Youtube. XDDD
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Okay I'm finally up to October and I'm starting to seriously wonder if I'll ever get a better weapon than the lightsaber spear thingy for Minako girl main. I'm finding Panic is probably the best status ailment you can inflict on something, and getting it to stick about every other hit is just too damn good.

Also Yukari and Junpei are still using their Toy Bow and Spiked Bat for similar reasons. Not that I'm using Junpei much; I'm TRYING, but it's hard to justify when Koromaru outclasses him with fire and Shinjiro outclasses him in pure physical power (and doesn't carry a weakness).
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I'm playing through this now! I already played through FES, and I thought I was going to hate the lack of running around, and the more visual novel-like presentation of the story. But then I remembered I like visual novels! LOL. Yeah, silly me.

In any case, it didn't feel quite as good at first, but I've really been getting into it, especially with all the improvements they've made for the female's story. (MALE SEES S.LINKS, YES. Oh, and gameplay too. Yeah. That.)

It's still a bit hard to judge; since sometimes I feel like the visual novel presentation doesn't hinder the story at all, and then some scenes I really liked better in FES.

I feel like the "perfect" P3 is somewhere in between FES and P3P, y'know? XD Like, FES's presentation maybe, with P3P's improved gameplay and female storyline. P3P's portability is awesome too! I love being able to take it anywhere with me.

Also...
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Okay I'm finally up to October and I'm starting to seriously wonder if I'll ever get a better weapon than the lightsaber spear thingy for Minako girl main. I'm finding Panic is probably the best status ailment you can inflict on something, and getting it to stick about every other hit is just too damn good.


Err, are you talking about the Beam Naginata? I'm only up to the end of July and I've already replaced it! As well as the Toy Bow and Junpei's Spiked Bat. Are you sure Officer Kurosawa doesn't have better weapons already?

Or do you mean you simply like these weapons' secondary effects better (the +Panic, etc)?
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Yeah, I mean the effects. I can buy (and probably already own from chests/shuffles) weapons that are nearly twice as powerful, but Panic completely cripples 95% of the enemies in the game (Mitsuru with Tentarafoo makes the Magical Magi boss battle an absolute joke) and makes them easier to crit which leads to more AAAs so...yeah.

And yes new S-Links are super. I always thought it was kind of weird in the original P3 how you couldn't buddy up with the other SEES guys, and I'd much rather listen to Junpei being a goof than Kenji talking about how badly he wants to tap his teacher.
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