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If it's the bunny, that could make things really interesting.... how can he encourage them to betray each other and yet, not harm each other?


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Do you mean that the bunny is the one following the 3 robot laws? Wasn't it just revealed that the bunny was just something/someone the 'real' Zero used? So I don't really think it is the bunny that planned the game. I actually hope that the bunny is more or less just some sort of machine that speaks pre-recorded messages.


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Yeah thats what I meant - I thought if it wasnt K's character who was the robot - it could be the bunny.
A machine that speaks messages - well thats kind of a robot :P
I agree BTW, I dont think he (the bunny) will have planned it per se but I'm wondering how suspicion will be cast on the group this time...?

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It sounds a bit like Zero want the players to hate each other, so it would be easier for them to betray each other. Hence why it is revealed that Zero is one of them. If they believe that, then it will be a lot harder for them to trust each other. So I say, the possibily that Zero is not one of them is just as big, as the idea that he/she is.

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I wonder if Clover will have anything to say about that - she's been in 2 Nonary Games now and knows how they work. She was the one who suggested Zero was one of the gang in 999. She could take it more personally than the others.
I'm not sure if that is actually Clover now TBH - has she really grown that much in a year?

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Well, Clover was apparently 18 in the original, so...
And yes, it's definitely Clover. I can't read Japanese, but the kanji characters next to her picture read 'four-leaf' in Chinese. Poor girl can't get a break.

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I'm really interested in how Alice will... well, function. Given that she's there, does that make the last image of 999 real? How was she defrosted? Was she walking around the ship? What about the red book with all of the hieroglyphics in it? Is any of that going to be explained? Probably not.

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I wondered about that too.
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Did anyone think Alice was the killer of Musashidou (Cap) and Nijisaki in 999 at first? :D I thought she was wandering around the ship.
Maybe it isnt really Alice though, just someone who's given the name?
How will the US get away with her outfit - no bra :o

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I didnt like Lotus at the start of 999
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Because she seems suspicious and crabby, then at the end I loved her.
I guess Lotus fits the stereotype of some Asian/Japanese women dressing/looking younger than they are. There is depth to her character though.
Was she actually dressed like that when she was kidnapped? :o
I initially thougt Clover was meant to be 13/14 :o
I liked Santa more in the end too - especially when he gives that speech about Akane dying (even if it isnt true) and being her "Santa Claus" - it was so sad :(.
Is his story about the White/Black Santa a clue to his dark side, meant to make us think he was Zero? I did think he was actually.

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Yeah, she was supposed to seem suspicious, I think xD
She's unemployed/working freelance, so she can wear whatever she wants. And she belly dances as a hobby. So she was wearing a belly dancing outfit when she was kidnapped.
Nope, Clover is 18. But yeah, she does look 13/14. Which is why all the people who love (note the word "love") freak me out ~_~


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I wondered about that too.
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Did anyone think Alice was the killer of Musashidou (Cap) and Nijisaki in 999 at first? :D I thought she was wandering around the ship.
Maybe it isnt really Alice though, just someone who's given the name?
How will the US get away with her outfit - no bra :o

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Well, they were liek, "The person who must've killed him must know the ship reaaaaaaaaally well!" which I think we meant to make you think Alice had done it. I considered it for Cap, but then that didn't really make much sense... For Snake/Nijisaki, I always thought it was one of the players :P
If they make the rating high enough (T, or maybe M) it should be fine. I don't think they'll care as much about a higher rating as some other games, since I don't think they got much money from the kiddie crowd anyway :P For the boxart, they may have to censor her, though. (If they want to censor her in-game, I wonder if they individually did each sprite, or if they just have one skin that they could change? :o)

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I think if they make the game M, it shouldnt be censored in any way. I don't think the original was.
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Remind me, why does Clover bother putting anything on? What she's got on is as good as not.


The only problem I've got with her outfit is that it's hideous. I mean, just look at her shoes. Those are the ugliest shoes I've seen in my life.
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I think if they make the game M, it shouldnt be censored in any way. I don't think the original was.

Eh, we'll see.

Oh wait, 999 was M, wasn't it? (I forgot xD) Then there really shouldn't be any problems with the sequel being M, too. And if they allowed Lotus just fine in 999, I doubt they'll have problems with Underboob.
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According to the 999 thread on NeoGAF (and Famitsu), the Japanese release is in February.
Perhaps when it is released, then Aksys can think about localisation.
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According to the 999 thread on NeoGAF (and Famitsu), the Japanese release is in February.
Perhaps when it is released, then Aksys can think about localisation.


I saw that, but I don't know how reliable it is, since I've seen other sources with full predicted launch dates from Famitsu, which indicated "good people die" as a WINTER release. Not that it matters too much, as February is pretty much a worst case scenario in "winterness" anyway.
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February is still in Winter... it doesn't get very warm until March anyway (unless you're closer to the equator, of course).

Given how the first news report said that the game was about half way done, I'm not surprised that it would be released late in the Winter season, rather than in December or early January.

Even so, it would be better to have a more reliably sourced release date anyway. It could still be too soon for one to be declared.
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2/16 release date and a ton more screenshots.

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201111/02004985.html
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2/16 release date and a ton more screenshots.

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201111/02004985.htm


Am I the only one who can't see them? :sadshoe:
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16 February... hmmm.
Time to ask Aksys about localising it? I'm sure they or someone else are on it but Aksys did such a good job with 999, it makes sense IMO for them to do the sequel.
I hope for multiple endings in Good People Die as well.
I can't see the screenshots either?
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Yeah, sorry about that, dropped the 'l' from .html.
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From Siliconera:
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A Famitsu interview with director Kotaro Uchikoshi reveals many interesting details about the upcoming Extreme Escape Adventure: Good People Die, slated for release on Feb 16 for the Nintendo 3DS and PlayStation Vita.



The game is stuffed chock full of puzzles, Uchikoshi says. Sometimes, solving these may unlock hidden aspects of a room. For example, if you solve puzzle A, and then B and C, the room’s appearance may suddenly change completely, and you might find a surprise waiting for you. However, beginners need not be daunted; if you challenge and fail a puzzle too many times, your companions will drop hints (and the clear, precise way to solve the puzzle). If you don’t want to use this option, just play the game on Hard mode. In addition, beating the game on Hard nets you a nice prize.



As a whole, the “game” (meaning, the game within Extreme Escape Adventure) is called the Nonary Game: Ambidex Version. This is because you approach colored doors, undergo the Ambidex (AB) game, and open the door labeled “9” to escape. The AB game — the game of cooperation and betrayal — is a game in and of itself contained within the Nonary Game: AB Version. The AB game plays in rounds until someone can open the “9” door.



Speaking of the Nonary Game, Extreme Escape Adventure shares the same world as 999, but but the story is self-contained. There are some references to the previous game, though, so it’s best to play 999 first. Some of these precise connections are mentioned in our previous coverage (spoilers abound).





How does the AB game work? It’s explained here in this article, but here it is again. Each player in the game has a bangle attached to them, with BP, which presumably stands for bangle (or bracelet) points. Like in 999, you travel in pairs, and can cooperate with or betray your partner.



AB rooms have a voting machine set up within them, and each pair of participants must make a choice within a time limit. Do you “cooperate” or “betray”? Each choice you choose unlocks a different scenario and, depending on different situations, you’ll see different stories unfold. The key is to get more than 9BP so you can open the door to escape. On the other hand, if your points fall below 0, you’ll get injected with poison from your bangle and die.



The different combinations like this: (The point changes affect both players.)

- If you choose to cooperate and the opponent chooses to cooperate, +2BP.
- If you choose to cooperate and the opponent chooses to betray, -2BP.
- If you choose to betray and the opponent chooses to cooperate, +3BP.
- If you choose to betray and the opponent chooses to betray, -0BP.





What is a possible dilemma? Uchikoshi gives the following example:



“What if both players have only 1 BP left? The opponent would invite you to cooperate with him and then both of you would get 2BP. Should you cooperate, trusting those words? However, if the opponent chooses to betray you, then your BP will go “1 – 2 = -1” and you’d die. Then, would the safe route be to betray? But if you do that and the opponent really was planning to cooperate, then his BP will go “1 – 2 = -1” and you’ll end up killing that person.”



Uchikoshi also dropped some trivia about the game’s title. Originally, there were three names that made it to the final cut: Uragiri x Girigiri [Betrayal x Just Barely], Want to be Saved? Then Die, and Good People Die. In the end, the proponents of each wouldn’t give in, so ultimately, the title was chosen using rock-paper-scissors.



Some other names that were dropped included “Sigma Control,” “Lost Escape,” “Contagious Distrust,” “Escargo,” “Human-mode Killer,” “Nine Mice Bite the Cat,” and “Sigma and Phi and Tenmyouji and Quark and Alice and Yotsuba and Dio and Luna and K are All Trapped in Weird Place! Oh No!” There were apparently many, many more that aren’t mentioned.



The final chosen name in Japanese, Zennin Shibou Desu, also contains a pun. “Shibou” can mean “to hope,” which would transform the meaning behind the original title into “We hope for everyone to become a good person.”

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/11/02...ferent-titles/


So... does this mean you can get a game over this time? You couldn't in 999 (well, you could get a bad ending, but that's not quite the same).
Also, I kinda like “Sigma and Phi and Tenmyouji and Quark and Alice and Yotsuba and Dio and Luna and K are All Trapped in Weird Place! Oh No!”, lol.
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I don't think so. I think the only "game overs" will be bad endings like in the first. Of course, I don't know if this will be the case, but if you think about the way 999 worked, you'll get why I think so:
In 999, the "game" had you opening numbered doors, if the digital root of the players bracelet's matched the number on the door. If you entered a door without being a part of the group with the correct digital root, or if you didn't get to deactivate your bracelet within the next 81 seconds after activating it, you would die.
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But how many times did that happen in the game? Everyone always made it when it came to the 81 second rule, and only one guy of the official 9 players got blown up.


I think the same will apply in the sequel: although there's a lot of ways to die in the ambidex game, the players will probably work together most of the way, and then at the end, some of them will start to betray each other, which will lead to various endings. But I don't think that you can die until that point.
But perhaps you'll get the chance to eliminate some other players yourself, which will then lead to additional endings.

I'm very curious as to what number the players will have when the game starts. Will it be the same number on all the bracelets, or will they go from 1-9 like in the nonary game? If the latter, then we might see an early kill like in 999. If the former, well.. what will the starting number then be? 5?
Before I read this new information, I thought that you had to land on exactly 9 to open a door, which opened up a lot of potential. For example, if you then had an even number on your bracelet, you would have to betray someone at least once, which would make the betrayal-option a lot more tempting for some... but if the bracelet number just needs to be higher than 10, then wouldn't it be possible for them to just cooperate until all of them can escape? Or perhaps there's a limit as to how many times the players get to trust/betray each other?

Either way, the ambidex game sounds awesome.
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I'm hoping there will be multiple endings like in 999, also hope the real ending won't be exactly the same (somehow I doubt it will be).
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I'm hoping there will be multiple endings like in 999, also hope the real ending won't be exactly the same (somehow I doubt it will be).


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If this will be a true sequel, I guess they are going for another mindblowing ending again, so I doubt the existence of a morphogenetic field will be the plot twist once again. All I hope is that the major plot twist won't have anything to do with robots, bunnies or something like that :payne: But either way, expect something you won't expect :redd:
Also, with the potential that the ambidex game has, I'm pretty sure there will be multiple endings... actually, I see potential for even more endings than in the first game, but that is just wishfull thinking :b


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Looked through the screenshots (although I skipped over the ones explaining the ambidex game xD)

For a second I thought Luna (that's the red-head, right?) had a super-manly speech style, but then I realized that it was Sigma speaking xD (CUZ HE'S MANRY)

If the "cooperation"/"betrayal" is part of the game system (I noticed those keywords) then I can definitely see where Prisoner's Dilemma comes in xD

I like the models :3


Mid-february, eh? I reaaaaally wanted to wait until v2 of the 3DS to get one, but I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally want to get this, too............ Hmm, maybe it won't get localized until 3DSv2 is out? (Because then it'll solve the problem I was worrying about with getting this when it came out in Japanese, and then not having anyone to discuss it with xD)


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Is v2 of the 3DS region free or something? I thought it toned some of the 3D stuff but otherwise was the same?
I mainly skipped over the rules of the Ambidex Game :D
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Talking of bunnies, considering the host of the Ambidex game is one - I can't help thinking of Akane's story of the bunnies in 999 :D
Maybe this time they are on a replica of a space station, kinda the opposite of 999 maybe?


I like the idea of "Beating the game on Hard gets you a nice prize". I hope thats more than just a video or whatever, and means potentially even more replays besides "Multiple" (?) endings.
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(They haven't even confirmed the existence of 3DSv2 yet ~_~)

I'm just buying a Japanese one :P
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I'll wait and see if the game is made Region Free when its localised.
If not, I'll just buy a USA machine :D

I do like “Sigma and Phi and Tenmyouji and Quark and Alice and Yotsuba and Dio and Luna and K are All Trapped in Weird Place! Oh No!” :D
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I'm not sure but either:
Chunsoft arent talking with Aksys yet
Aksys themselves arent localising the game
It won't be localised?!?!!!

I just havent heard anything yet and even on Neogaf one member who works for Aksys probably isnt sure ("I hope some nice publisher localises this") Also we don't know whether they'd sub or dub it (I hope sub).
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Well, 999 came out in America a year after it came out in Japan. Plus, with all the text, and especially if they dub it, it'll take a while to localize it.

999 sold well in the West, didn't it? I'd think they would release the sequel too, then. Considering the long lag in localizing 999, and how long it'll probably take to localize 999-2, I don't think this means much. They also might be waiting for the 3DS to sell a bit more before they want to localize it.
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It's going to be a long wait then it seems :( I agree with you in that it will take some time to localise and everything.
999 indeed sold better in America than Japan (150,000+ copies Vs ca. 30,000...?)
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It's going to be a long wait then it seems :(


Huh, a year. This is going to be problematic. I enjoy this thread, but that spoiler button is too tempting to not click once the game is released. And it's not like you can put the devil back in the box once you've opened it.
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Exactly.
I also enjoy this thread, looks like I'll have to stay away for a year or so...
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Official site is open with character art, voices, and promises of trailers to come.

http://zendesu.chunsoft.jp/

As for localization, I'm not sure how much Akselziys (the Aksys staff member on NeoGAF) is just teasing. They've made it very clear they'd love to translate the game, and I get the impression that at this point they're just waiting for Chunsoft to make a deal with them.
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I didnt realise that :)
Guess we'll just have to wait and see....
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Translations of Sigma and Phi's Bios from Neogaf - I didnt want to read but did anyway :D *washes eyes*

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He doesn’t have a genius-level IQ, or extraordinary physical strength. The gods haven’t taken note of him, and he doesn’t have special genes residing deep in his cells. He’s just an ordinary, run-of-the-mill university student. Was his being kidnapped and brought to this facility simply a trick of fate? Or does it have a hidden meaning…?

[Phi]

(More importantly, look at this. What do you think?)

A cool, knowledgeable girl with a brusque way of speaking. There’s a sharp side to her, and she immediately understands the setup of the game she was thrown into, but as she also displays a peculiar spaciness and a tendency towards old people’s puns, it’s difficult to tell whether it’s natural or faked.
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Hmmm... interesting. Sigma seems to be the Junpei of this game but what I find interesting is "Phi immediately knows the set up of the game she's been thrown in to"
Now why could that be?

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So is the old guy's name Tenmyouji, Tenmyôji, or Tenmyoji? Or are they all the same since the website states his name's Tenmyoji? And in the website, the kid's name (I think it's Quark) looks like it has an "l" in it instead of an "r" so it looks like "Qualk" instead. But since the "l" and the "r" make the same sound in Japanese, they're both the same. So it looks like Quark's the official name yet the website shows it as Qualk. Hmm...

And I noticed that Alice's name is shown as "Allice" in the website and Zero III is shown as Zero 3.

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How spoilerish/reveal-ish are those bios? (If they don't give that much out, I wouldn't mind it being good Japanese practice ^_^)
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How spoilerish/reveal-ish are those bios? (If they don't give that much out, I wouldn't mind it being good Japanese practice ^_^)



Ask yourself this: Is it better going into 999-2 having no preconception about the characters background and personalities, other then by their artwork and what can be gathered by 999-1. Or having the cryptic yet telling bio known?

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Well, it depends on how cryptic and telling the bios are. ...Which I can't know unless I read them xD

I guess I may as well just wait :P
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Maybe it's spelt like "Qualk" if its pronounced to rhyme with how we (UK) say "chalk" - AFAIK most physicists rhyme "Quark" with "stork" or "chalk" and not "lark".
I dont mind reading the bios TBH, I doubt theyre that spoilerish.
I'll probably have forgotten by the time 999-2 comes round anyway.
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K... not the first time I see a character with his name/alias to be a letter.
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Maybe it's spelt like "Qualk" if its pronounced to rhyme with how we (UK) say "chalk" - AFAIK most physicists rhyme "Quark" with "stork" or "chalk" and not "lark".
I dont mind reading the bios TBH, I doubt theyre that spoilerish.
I'll probably have forgotten by the time 999-2 comes round anyway.


I doubt it. Japanese people sometimes get their l's and r's mixed up when writing in romaji, and I think that's what happened here. Besides, qualk doesn't mean anything, while quark is a Physics term, and we all know how much 999 loves its (pseudo)science...

The bios don't say much, so I'm fine with reading them. Besides, it's not like they're going to reveal major plot points; at least I don't think so. After all, most of the fun in 999 is in its plot, so I don't think they want to reveal too much.
Besides, we don't actually know much about the plot at all. We know the new rules (which isn't even plot-related), and we know the identities of two of the characters (which is something anyone could see coming just from taking a look at the first scans that got released), but that's about it.
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