Re: Gyakuten Saiban 5: The Long and the Short of it
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Actually… I don't think Edgeworth got a mention at all in Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Unless you count the part where Ema talks about how a prosecutor "should" be.
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Someone commented that the courtroom looks suspiciously similar the one in Professor Layton vs Ace Attorney, which, if true, suggests there's a fair bit of sharing going on between the two projects.
Huh? Not even close. How exactly does a normal courtroom look similar to a castle?
Maybe you already forgot how the courtroom in PLvAA looks like?
Wow.
The GS5 sprites look A LOT cleaner...
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Wooster wrote:
Also lol at comparing a suspended cage to the witness stand. Made my day!
Well, the system is a little bit different. I think the mob are the witnesses in PLvAA and there is no real judge, or am I wrong?
I think the relative position of the cage in the castle court rooom and the witness stand in the regular court room is most likely the same.
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Wow.
The GS5 sprites look A LOT cleaner...
The GS5 sprites look A LOT cleaner...
These are old screenshots and I wouldn't read too much into it. Wait for all the new material from the TGS in two weeks.
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I actually like the new style.. it's much different from the old game.
The beginning was quite fun, just with all the ups and downs
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What I really want to know is: why is Miss Yellow standing to Phoenix's left, instead of his right as is the hallowed tradition for GS assistants?
Same thing happens with Layton VS Nick though.
How'bout we call it GBA/DS tradition and this new look as 3DS tradition, or something? :D
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( Does this mean either Professor Layton vs Ace Attorney or GS5 gain prosecutor's aids?)
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Wooster wrote:
( Does this mean either Professor Layton vs Ace Attorney or GS5 gain prosecutor's aids?)
Didn't PLVSAA had Luke as Laytons side?
Could be wrong, but...
I personally prefer this way they're doing it now.
It's was bit confusing when I played for first time really.
My guess is that it was other way around in previous games because of the following reasons;
1. in the pic of the courtroom the aid is then on behind the defense attorney, which make more sense
2. For that reason also, the attorney is at the end of the bench, while aid is near the...section(?) If it was other way around,
it could have created a problem where they also needed to make the aid appear a bit on the Nicks poses.
Just my five cents though.
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Wooster wrote:
( Does this mean either Professor Layton vs Ace Attorney or GS5 gain prosecutor's aids?)
I wonder! Maybe (this is just me going off on a tangent,) The main prosecutor would have a mentor, maybe Egdeworth?
Just like Mia had Grossberg as the aid in GS3-1
Also, on Neni's point of Yellow Girl being a sibling of Trucy, I honestly she was Trucy. I noticed the badge, and said "Maybe Phoenix and his daughter took the bar exam together?" Would be fun if it was Trucy, and you could play a case as her being the main Attorney.
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I think the issue is much simpler. It's ascetically ugly to pass the aide during the frequent camera pans.
That's why they were on the side they were in the pre3DS era. But I believe players got confused when the aid was facing the same direction as the prosecution.
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Gonna say this, but am I the only one who feels that the high school girl kinda looks like something out of a Studio Ghibli film? She vaguely reminds me of Sophie from Howl's Moving Castle.
That's why she looked familiar! Well, I'm lukewarm about this now. Howl's Moving Castle was a nice movie, but apparently it isn't as fulfilling about other things - like Sophie obtaining her original hair color back, but I can't find the book anywhere.C-A
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I actually like the new style.. it's much different from the old game.
Damn this inferior angle! Now it's impossible to tell if Nick is wearing trousers below the desk!
So who bets it'll be fully voiced?
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Wooster wrote:
Huh, just noticed there's a profound lack of noisy onlookers. Too many polygons?
Could just be the angle. But if polygon count is a problem, they could use 2D sprites (see: latest Mario and Sonic at the Olympics, where the entire audience is made of sprites).
There are audience members in the foreground though (in shadow). Unless those are the jurists.
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The GS5 sprites look A LOT cleaner...
Well...not to split hairs...but those aren't "sprites". >_>
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Huh, just noticed there's a profound lack of noisy onlookers. Too many polygons?
Or the Peanut Gallery's constant explosions at shitty, non-conclusive evidence and lying witnesses has finally made the Judge snap and set the Rule "Ausschluss der Öffentlichkeit". (Not sure of the english term - basically, nobody except the law-dudes and defendant and called-on witnesses are allowed to be in the room)
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CatMuto wrote:
Wooster wrote:
Huh, just noticed there's a profound lack of noisy onlookers. Too many polygons?
Or the Peanut Gallery's constant explosions at shitty, non-conclusive evidence and lying witnesses has finally made the Judge snap and set the Rule "Ausschluss der Öffentlichkeit". (Not sure of the english term - basically, nobody except the law-dudes and defendant and called-on witnesses are allowed to be in the room)
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Except you can clearly see that the audience has been moved from the sides of the room to behind the witness stand.
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Except you can clearly see that the audience has been moved from the sides of the room to behind the witness stand.
.... that looks really creepy, those shadow people just leering at the backside of witnesses and defendants.
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CatMuto wrote:
Joe4evr wrote:
CatMuto wrote:
Except you can clearly see that the audience has been moved from the sides of the room to behind the witness stand.
.... that looks really creepy, those shadow people just leering at the backside of witnesses and defendants.
C-A
I think this will be most interesting, when (if) they have an outburst from a member of the audience, will the camera pan into their seat, and will you see them sitting in the background?
Also, here is to hoping for a Takumi cameo in the audience like the movie
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I think this will be most interesting, when (if) they have an outburst from a member of the audience, will the camera pan into their seat, and will you see them sitting in the background?
Would be quite funny. Also, when the camera is pointed like in the first screenshot, I hope it slowly pans sideways.
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Anyway the having to handle emotions and all seems quite interesting. Hopefully it'll be less linear than the series has always been. They had better provide a good explanation for the absence of
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Neni wrote:
I hate how they tend to write around former important characters the way they did in AJ or AAI. I never want to see such a cop-out again.
I don't see them dropping this 'policy'. But there's a huge 5 in the title. I don't see why it's so hard for 'new players' to wrap their head around the fact Phoenix was a lawyer in the past and met people in the previous games that he's still connected to. If their curiosity is piqued, sounds like good marketing for them to buy the other games.
If they're so desperate, they can avoid ridiculous things like 'the blue suit guy' by just including some piece of evidence or on a wall of something people can check, like a small photo/album. I assume you can examine evidence, so just flip open the album and examine the parts of it, it can have one of the pictures taken of the old main cast together back in his initial lawyer days (like that one at the end of 1-4 or another one they made in hindsight) and another picture of Trucy and some of the other AJ (Apollo, others?) cast. Phoenix can give really brief basic explanations of who they are when the evidence is examined. Then he can think more meaningful things about them rather than stupid miss-able Easter Eggs even without them appearing. See, that wasn't so hard? But no, he's supposed to have been randomly generated again at the earliest shown case, right?
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Neni wrote:
I hate how they tend to write around former important characters the way they did in AJ or AAI. I never want to see such a cop-out again.
I don't see them dropping this 'policy'. But there's a huge 5 in the title. I don't see why it's so hard for 'new players' to wrap their head around the fact Phoenix was a lawyer in the past and met people in the previous games that he's still connected to. If their curiosity is piqued, sounds like good marketing for them to buy the other games.
If they're so desperate, they can avoid ridiculous things like 'the blue suit guy' by just including some piece of evidence or on a wall of something people can check, like a small photo/album. I assume you can examine evidence, so just flip open the album and examine the parts of it, it can have one of the pictures taken of the old main cast together back in his initial lawyer days (like that one at the end of 1-4 or another one they made in hindsight) and another picture of Trucy and some of the other AJ (Apollo, others?) cast. Phoenix can give really brief basic explanations of who they are when the evidence is examined. Then he can think more meaningful things about them rather than stupid miss-able Easter Eggs even without them appearing. See, that wasn't so hard? But no, he's supposed to have been randomly generated again at the earliest shown case, right?
I completly agree and that's another reason I dislike the AAI writing team for how they handled these things in AAI 1&2: That's just not good writing! It's a visual NOVEL so they are supposed to know the basics about how to write a NOVEL but they often prove themselves to fail quite a bit at this very thing, saddly.
That's why I'm looking more forward to PL VS AA currently than GS5, despite not being a huge Layton Fan. That game has Takumi on board. That guy *knows* what he doing.
But well, I'm still hopeful that at very least the AJ cast will play an active role. I can't quote, because I saw it on Tumblr (Though I am sure they got their info from here, anyway), but Eshiro said that GS5 is meant to be a continuation of GS4's plot in a way and that Phoenix retook the bar mainly to "fulfill" a promise he made. I know, this could be something that happened off-screen, but I kinda hope that this is connected to the promise he made to Thalassa at the end of AJ, the promise to make sure her children would be safe. That would mean that Trucy and Apollo do, in fact, play an active role. This way, the game would make both, the PW and AJ fans happy.
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Doesn't that girl look a lot like Lynne from Ghost Trick?
Anyway the having to handle emotions and all seems quite interesting. Hopefully it'll be less linear than the series has always been. They had better provide a good explanation for the absence of and .
Overall, my faith in humanity has been restored slightly with Resident evil 6 coming out soon.
Anyway the having to handle emotions and all seems quite interesting. Hopefully it'll be less linear than the series has always been. They had better provide a good explanation for the absence of
and . Overall, my faith in humanity has been restored slightly with Resident evil 6 coming out soon.
I was thinking that she looks like Lynne too actually.
I cant imagine GS5 being FULLY voiced but maybe it will have more voices than previous games, maybe Nick doing his monologues or intro, the judge saying "Objection Sustained" or something.
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Nobodyknowsme021 wrote:
Doesn't that girl look a lot like Lynne from Ghost Trick?
I was thinking that she looks like Lynne too actually.
She looks like a mix between Lynne and Miku Hatsune
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I actually like the new style.. it's much different from the old game.
Damn this inferior angle! Now it's impossible to tell if Nick is wearing trousers below the desk!
....
I think he is wearing trousers either way. Well you know.. he HAS to wear some trousers now, right?
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Yaragorm wrote:
The GS5 sprites look A LOT cleaner...
Well...not to split hairs...but those aren't "sprites". >_>
Then what are they?
I'm not sure if I can follow you..
The beginning was quite fun, just with all the ups and downs
But suddenly, we’re tired, from a waste of meaningless emotions
But suddenly, we’re tired, from a waste of meaningless emotions
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Gyakuten$aiban wrote:
Yaragorm wrote:
The GS5 sprites look A LOT cleaner...
Well...not to split hairs...but those aren't "sprites". >_>
Then what are they?
I'm not sure if I can follow you..[/quote]
I guess you could call them... models? They are 3 dimensional character models after all.
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I guess you could call them... models? They are 3 dimensional character models after all.
... xD
Don't know why, but that made me laugh.
But either way, sprites are sprites.
The beginning was quite fun, just with all the ups and downs
But suddenly, we’re tired, from a waste of meaningless emotions
But suddenly, we’re tired, from a waste of meaningless emotions
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I can't agree with everything.
And the lady in yellow.. being Trucy? Okay, whoa. She can't be Trucy, that's completely impossible.
1. Trucy has brunette hair. Not orange hair. Sure, she could have dye her hair but.. yeah.
2. She is a magician. I doubt she would appear without a silk hat, because that is not how she acts.
3. Also, her face is much different from the 'lady in yellow'. Because she has brighter eyes and all. But look for yourself:
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Yeah. I'm getting a headache from all those theories.
The beginning was quite fun, just with all the ups and downs
But suddenly, we’re tired, from a waste of meaningless emotions
But suddenly, we’re tired, from a waste of meaningless emotions
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And I don't think there's anything wrong with Capcom listening to majority of the games fans
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3. Also, her face is much different from the 'lady in yellow'. Because she has brighter eyes and all. But look for yourself:
Yeah they have different face shapes, Trucy's is rounder. The hair would never bother me because... extensions and dye. Some girls change their hair more frequently than their knickers.
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