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Or if they don't want to do that:
Give Phoenix a tranquilizer gun. Like the kind Solid Snake has.
In these dark days of law, maybe the prosecutor decides to start forging evidence. That gunna fly with Phoenix? NOPE. BAM! Nighty-night, Mr. D.A.!
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I think they would. Apollo would be part of it too (if he's in the game). I wonder what Trucy's role might be.
Any thoughts on that?
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I just had an idea. Will Wright & Co. return? Will Phoenix still have the Wright Anything Agency or will they revamp it into an actual office?
I think they would. Apollo would be part of it too (if he's in the game). I wonder what Trucy's role might be.
Any thoughts on that?
I think they would. Apollo would be part of it too (if he's in the game). I wonder what Trucy's role might be.
Any thoughts on that?
They'd probably change it back. If Maya could work for Wright & Co. while she was a spirit-medium in-training, Trucy could work there while she was a magician-in-training.
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in which case I think Apollo will be very important in the last case, rather than being in any of the start up ones. I mean the way Phoenix says things like 'a promising new attorney's joined' which would make sense for him to tell Apollo this since Apollo joins up with Phoenix's law firm in GS4.
and all that talk about 'the one you've been chasing' sounds as though Apollo -if it is him- is trying to catch someone really big which is why I say he'll only be in it for the last case, with maybe just small references to Apollo working on something through the other cases. This way I think is pretty good since it gives Phoenix the spotlight that we all expect him to have in GS5, yet at the same time shows that Apollo is still important and can come in on the big showdown to kick some ass
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I had a little theory when I read about the cut-scenes at the beginning (up on the court records tumblr) with Phoenix having a conversation with a "mysterious someone" on the phone. I really think that the person he is talking to is none other than in which case I think Apollo will be very important in the last case, rather than being in any of the start up ones.
I mean the way Phoenix says things like 'a promising new attorney's joined' which would make sense for him to tell Apollo this since Apollo joins up with Phoenix's law firm in GS4.
and all that talk about 'the one you've been chasing' sounds as though Apollo -if it is him- is trying to catch someone really big which is why I say he'll only be in it for the last case, with maybe just small references to Apollo working on something through the other cases. This way I think is pretty good since it gives Phoenix the spotlight that we all expect him to have in GS5, yet at the same time shows that Apollo is still important and can come in on the big showdown to kick some ass
in which case I think Apollo will be very important in the last case, rather than being in any of the start up ones. I mean the way Phoenix says things like 'a promising new attorney's joined' which would make sense for him to tell Apollo this since Apollo joins up with Phoenix's law firm in GS4.
and all that talk about 'the one you've been chasing' sounds as though Apollo -if it is him- is trying to catch someone really big which is why I say he'll only be in it for the last case, with maybe just small references to Apollo working on something through the other cases. This way I think is pretty good since it gives Phoenix the spotlight that we all expect him to have in GS5, yet at the same time shows that Apollo is still important and can come in on the big showdown to kick some ass
I like this idea. A lot!
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You want an interesting scenario involving the Jurors? Here's one: Working the Jury.
A dirty (and in AA-verse, not unlikely to be revived) lawyer technique that involves intimidating the jurors as people in order to sway their vote to whatever the lawyer wants it to be. (Highly illegal, of course.)
Now, this doesn't necessarily have to be done by a lawyer. In AA, it's very likely to be done by the killer or his accomplices. Since we already know that it only takes a slightly hung jury in order to get a Guilty verdict in Ace Attorney, we've got ourselves a incident waiting to happen.
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You want an interesting scenario involving the Jurors? Here's one: Working the Jury.
I have to say, isn't that what happens in regular courts, anyway?
Yes, the Jury is there to hear the statements of the witnesses and the evidence, but when it comes to the final statement of either defense or prosecution, they always say something along the lines of "You have heard the facts, you have seen the evidence, which will no doubt prove to you my point of view on things and you know I will never lie to you as I am the defense/prosecution, so I am always speaking the truth. *crosses fingers behind back*"
Not quite like that, but it basically is that.
The Jury is practically there to be sway their opinion. As for outright threatening them, well, the Jury is generally very isolated so that nobody can influence or threaten them-oh what am I talking about, this is the AA-verse, the Jury members will go about daily life, probably telling their family and friends and random stranger-aquaintances all the details about the trial.
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beterbomen wrote:
You want an interesting scenario involving the Jurors? Here's one: Working the Jury.
A dirty (and in AA-verse, not unlikely to be revived) lawyer technique that involves intimidating the jurors as people in order to sway their vote to whatever the lawyer wants it to be. (Highly illegal, of course.)
Now, this doesn't necessarily have to be done by a lawyer. In AA, it's very likely to be done by the killer or his accomplices. Since we already know that it only takes a slightly hung jury in order to get a Guilty verdict in Ace Attorney, we've got ourselves a incident waiting to happen.
A dirty (and in AA-verse, not unlikely to be revived) lawyer technique that involves intimidating the jurors as people in order to sway their vote to whatever the lawyer wants it to be. (Highly illegal, of course.)
Now, this doesn't necessarily have to be done by a lawyer. In AA, it's very likely to be done by the killer or his accomplices. Since we already know that it only takes a slightly hung jury in order to get a Guilty verdict in Ace Attorney, we've got ourselves a incident waiting to happen.
Hey, remember that guy who's known as the "Distortion of Law"? Yeah, that guy. I'm sure he'll pull some fast ones during some trials. I can't say if the crime he was convicted for was morally justified, but he's definitely going to be introduced as some kind of "demon prosecutor" who manipulates people's psychology to his will (Apollo and even Phoenix notwithstanding). But Kokone knows deep down in her heart that this isn't all there is to him...
...unless she's holding some sort of grudge against him that will be revealed over the cases.
What if Kokone was really a spy sent to haunt Phoenix and Apollo until they'd investigate Jin's old case (and get caught in the crossfire of a government conspiracy)? Suddenly, this game would become another level of EPIC, and I'd love Kokone forever... like with Maya. 
But yes, it doesn't only have to be Jin. Someone could be manipulating him as well and we'd have a heck of a time trying to solve that mystery.
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CatMuto wrote:
beterbomen wrote:
You want an interesting scenario involving the Jurors? Here's one: Working the Jury.
I have to say, isn't that what happens in regular courts, anyway?
Yes, the Jury is there to hear the statements of the witnesses and the evidence, but when it comes to the final statement of either defense or prosecution, they always say something along the lines of "You have heard the facts, you have seen the evidence, which will no doubt prove to you my point of view on things and you know I will never lie to you as I am the defense/prosecution, so I am always speaking the truth. *crosses fingers behind back*"
Not quite like that, but it basically is that.
The Jury is practically there to be sway their opinion. As for outright threatening them, well, the Jury is generally very isolated so that nobody can influence or threaten them-oh what am I talking about, this is the AA-verse, the Jury members will go about daily life, probably telling their family and friends and random stranger-aquaintances all the details about the trial.
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I think there's a little misunderstanding about what "Working the Jury" actually means. "Working the Jury" isn't a lawyer turning to the jury during the trail and trying to get an emotional response out of them; "Working the Jury" is a lawyer (or someone else) going up to each of the jury members before the trail starts and saying "You are going to vote Guilty for this trail, or I will break every bone in your/your wife's legs."
And you're probably right about the jury in AA not being very well protected. Ignoring that this is the astonishingly irresponsible AA-verse for a moment, the court hasn't had a jury to worry about for a long time, so they'll probably have forgotten about the necessity of such little things as security (keep in mind that these are the people that allowed someone to smuggle a bomb into a crowded courtroom).
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beterbomen wrote:
And you're probably right about the jury in AA not being very well protected. Ignoring that this is the astonishingly irresponsible AA-verse for a moment, the court hasn't had a jury to worry about for a long time, so they'll probably have forgotten about the necessity of such little things as security (keep in mind that these are the people that allowed someone to smuggle a bomb into a crowded courtroom).
Actually, according to the demo, security was tight; tighter than normal. And the one who "smuggled" in the bomb was a police officer, from a bomb disposal squad, who deactivated it before he entered the courtroom. No one would have expected him to reactivate during the trial.
But I would like to know if the bomb was so close to the defense's bench, why the courtroom's ceiling took the greatest amount of damage. It doesn't require a simulation of a bomb's detonation to know that the epicenter of the blast should leave behind the most open space. Keep in mind that Apollo is the only victim noted thus far, and he got his injury from being crushed by rubble because he was helping Juniper.
Well, let's see. If the design of the courtroom is a reference to the design chosen in the live-action movie, I would suspect the data in the Court Record is displayed from a machine attached to the ceiling. Now, I don't know where they actually keep the physical, tangible pieces of evidence, but it's more likely that those things are kept under lock on a lower floor of the courthouse, not above.
Capcom, you better have a good explanation for this obvious contradiction!
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beterbomen wrote:
And you're probably right about the jury in AA not being very well protected. Ignoring that this is the astonishingly irresponsible AA-verse for a moment, the court hasn't had a jury to worry about for a long time, so they'll probably have forgotten about the necessity of such little things as security (keep in mind that these are the people that allowed someone to smuggle a bomb into a crowded courtroom).
Actually, according to the demo, security was tight; tighter than normal. And the one who "smuggled" in the bomb was a police officer, from a bomb disposal squad, who deactivated it before he entered the courtroom. No one would have expected him to reactivate during the trial.
But I would like to know if the bomb was so close to the defense's bench, why the courtroom's ceiling took the greatest amount of damage. It doesn't require a simulation of a bomb's detonation to know that the epicenter of the blast should leave behind the most open space. Keep in mind that Apollo is the only victim noted thus far, and he got his injury from being crushed by rubble because he was helping Juniper.
Well, let's see. If the design of the courtroom is a reference to the design chosen in the live-action movie, I would suspect the data in the Court Record is displayed from a machine attached to the ceiling. Now, I don't know where they actually keep the physical, tangible pieces of evidence, but it's more likely that those things are kept under lock on a lower floor of the courthouse, not above.
Capcom, you better have a good explanation for this obvious contradiction!I always thought the court-record was Phoenix/Apollo's actual notes, and that when you presented a piece of evidence in "reality" it was just a paper with a picture of the evidence (unless it's evidence like the Murder weapon, in which case it would be in the courtroom as exhibit [insert letter].
Speaking of the Jury, has anything been discussed about if there is one? It's something I totally forgot about since before/around TGS. I know there are now more people in the courtroom, but have their been any interviews/screens from the game which confirm an in-universe Jury in GS5?
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I always thought the court-record was Phoenix/Apollo's actual notes, and that when you presented a piece of evidence in "reality" it was just a paper with a picture of the evidence (unless it's evidence like the Murder weapon, in which case it would be in the courtroom as exhibit [insert letter].
Speaking of the Jury, has anything been discussed about if there is one? It's something I totally forgot about since before/around TGS. I know there are now more people in the courtroom, but have their been any interviews/screens from the game which confirm an in-universe Jury in GS5?
Speaking of the Jury, has anything been discussed about if there is one? It's something I totally forgot about since before/around TGS. I know there are now more people in the courtroom, but have their been any interviews/screens from the game which confirm an in-universe Jury in GS5?
I thought so too, but at some point, it's filed into Court_Record.app. Whenever I look at the Japanese versions, it always says the "data" on so-and-so evidence is added to the Court Record, unless it's the actual tangible object that they pick up or present. I just imagine them with on-hand notepads or something to take notes on. (Or in the case of Edgeworth, he keeps a lot of things in his head.)
Honestly, all the talk about the jury in this game is based on assumptions. We never see the jury in GS4, but we know they're there in their own room (with a very high-tech computer simulation). It's most likely that after the test trial, the Jurist System stuck. If it didn't, it would lose the entire point of Nick setting up that test trial in the first place.
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It's most likely that after the test trial, the Jurist System stuck. If it didn't, it would lose the entire point of Nick setting up that test trial in the first place. And of Edgeworth becoming Chief Prosecutor for the sake of helping Nick set up the Jurist System... maybe.
That's what I would worry about. I've been very impressed with what this team has done story-wise so far, so I hope they don't just sweep the jury under the rug.
And I never thought about that Edgeworth thing. That probably was a big reason why an unemployed piano player could suddenly change the system.
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It would definitely be time consuming, but I'd love it if that could happen.
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Don't know if this was talked about, but would everyone agree that bringing back the Magatama, the Perceive ability for Apollo, and the new Mood Matrix can all fit into GS5?
It would definitely be time consuming, but I'd love it if that could happen.
It would definitely be time consuming, but I'd love it if that could happen.
If would be great if it happened, but I'm thinking that might be too many abilities for a game this size. My guess is they'll focus on the mood matrix but maybe let you use the other things once or twice. Or maybe the characters will use them in a "story" sense but they will not actually be playable aspects.
Unless the game is longer. We still don't know how many cases the game will be. I'm hoping for 5 or 6 cases.
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Don't know if this was talked about, but would everyone agree that bringing back the Magatama, the Perceive ability for Apollo, and the new Mood Matrix can all fit into GS5?
Dunno, that feels like a little too much to put into a game. Plus, it'd be kinda over the top.
"Haha, I can read your emotions and tell if you are keeping a secret and can tell if you are nervous about a lie!" It kinda makes me think that, if you could do all that - whether it's at once or at separate times - it'd be a little too much. Like the lawyers have suddenly become this awesomely overpowered Superheroes.
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...But these guys are a team of superheroes. At least, I can believe it.
Though, yes, Magatama + Bracelet + Mood Matrix altogether would be too much. Perhaps they can break up segments of the investigations / court sessions with each of them?
In any case, Yugami and Gin don't like it when Apollo stares down their witnesses. They might not like it when Athena picks at their witnesses' emotions either. And they probably don't like Phoenix because... because he's Phoenix.
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I'd say 6 cases would be pushing it. The game is expected to be about as long as previous games. But for the sake of references to the number 5 throughout this game, I can expect 5 cases. I hope the dev team can pull off a grand finale that won't drag like the last of GK2. It was a case that started off interesting and became enticing, but by the last fight, it felt drawn out too long. It had at least 3 different cases in it.
...But these guys are a team of superheroes. At least, I can believe it.
Though, yes, Magatama + Bracelet + Mood Matrix altogether would be too much. Perhaps they can break up segments of the investigations / court sessions with each of them?
In any case, Yugami and Gin don't like it when Apollo stares down their witnesses. They might not like it when Athena picks at their witnesses' emotions either. And they probably don't like Phoenix because... because he's Phoenix.
...But these guys are a team of superheroes. At least, I can believe it.
Though, yes, Magatama + Bracelet + Mood Matrix altogether would be too much. Perhaps they can break up segments of the investigations / court sessions with each of them?
In any case, Yugami and Gin don't like it when Apollo stares down their witnesses. They might not like it when Athena picks at their witnesses' emotions either. And they probably don't like Phoenix because... because he's Phoenix.
Realistically I think there will probably be 5 cases. But I've waited so long for this game and it might be the last one we get, so I'm wishing for more. Maybe if we're lucky we'll get some canon, non-joking-around DLC cases at some point.
I hope that they go the GS1-4 route and really have the last case be a "standalone" case that just happens to have connections to previous ones. I loved AAI but one thing I didn't like was how absolutely connected the cases were to each other and to the final case. It almost made it feel like one large case, and I'd prefer a bit of a separation so the last case can feel properly like it's "uppin the ante" even more.
My guess with the lawyer's superpowers will be that they will make an effort to reference the magatama and the percieving but they won't factor very much into the game and 90% of the weird stuff you do will be mood matrix-based.
Although actually, perceive is really the one that's used in courtrooms. Phoenix could never use the Magatama in court. So I'd say they could integrate the magatama no problem. It's only Apollo's perceive system that's an issue, and I'm going to assume that A) you only play Apollo for case 2, maybe at most case 2 and part of case 4/5, and B) that Gin will just stop the perceiving right away.
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BUT, as for investigation, since we most likely will be playing as Phoenix for the majority of the game, I can see him using his magatama. I just find that the investigations will be lacking if there's no special ability going on. I understand the 3-D aspect and being able to view the scenes in a full 3-D rotation is a new aspect in itself but I feel there should be more.
All of the mini "csi like" investigations that they did in AJ would also be something I'd welcome back, so I'm just really interested in what they will do for the investigations. D:
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...unless the judge actually at some point rules against having a hawk in court, but that seems unlikely given how easily Jin can manipulate him. Too lazy to give an opening statement? Tell the judge he's being selfish (and suggest that it's for his grandson's sake). It apparently works.
Phoenix goes up against Jin himself at some point, maybe case 3. Maybe he'll object to Gin, and then Gin gets upset and attacks him too.
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It does beg the question, though. If Apollo can't use his Perceive ability, why is Athena allowed to use her Mood Matrix? Gin is a hawk, and its screeches can stop anyone in their tracks, especially someone like Athena who is sensitive to sounds. Jin's buddy is like the perfect weapon against both their abilities.
...unless the judge actually at some point rules against having a hawk in court, but that seems unlikely given how easily Jin can manipulate him. Too lazy to give an opening statement? Tell the judge he's being selfish (and suggest that it's for his grandson's sake). It apparently works.
Phoenix goes up against Jin himself at some point, maybe case 3. Maybe he'll object to Gin, and then Gin gets upset and attacks him too.
Phoenix: What, now I can't even object!?
Jin: It was a stupid one anyway.
Judge: Hm, indeed.
Phoenix: (...why, cruel world, why...?)
...unless the judge actually at some point rules against having a hawk in court, but that seems unlikely given how easily Jin can manipulate him. Too lazy to give an opening statement? Tell the judge he's being selfish (and suggest that it's for his grandson's sake). It apparently works.
Phoenix goes up against Jin himself at some point, maybe case 3. Maybe he'll object to Gin, and then Gin gets upset and attacks him too.
Phoenix: What, now I can't even object!?
Jin: It was a stupid one anyway.
Judge: Hm, indeed.
Phoenix: (...why, cruel world, why...?)
I didn't know it was the hawk's screech that ruined the perceive. I thought he just flew around Apollo and it was hard for him to concentrate or something.
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ADA McCoy wrote:
I didn't know it was the hawk's screech that ruined the perceive. I thought he just flew around Apollo and it was hard for him to concentrate or something.
I didn't get to watch the livestream, so I dunno. But I did see SuperAj3's upload of the case 2 segment, without audio. Gin clawed at Apollo, and the latter made his shocked animation. I'm just saying for example how Athena could potentially be distracted from listening to people's hearts. The Mood Matrix is dependent on how well she hears. She's the one who inputs the data in there so it's easier to understand. Gin screeching could potentially ruin what she detects, and as a result, the Mood Matrix shows a mistaken image of what's actually happening. This could be a way that makes using the MM more challenging in later cases.
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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
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I didn't know it was the hawk's screech that ruined the perceive. I thought he just flew around Apollo and it was hard for him to concentrate or something.
I didn't get to watch the livestream, so I dunno. But I did see SuperAj3's upload of the case 2 segment, without audio. Gin clawed at Apollo, and the latter made his shocked animation. I'm just saying for example how Athena could potentially be distracted from listening to people's hearts. The Mood Matrix is dependent on how well she hears. She's the one who inputs the data in there so it's easier to understand. Gin screeching could potentially ruin what she detects, and as a result, the Mood Matrix shows a mistaken image of what's actually happening. This could be a way that makes using the MM more challenging in later cases.
Well, it's definitely possible since what hinders Athena are the noise levels.
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And the fact that Apollo tried percieving at one point makes me think he'll be able to percieve for real at the climax of case 2.
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I don't think they'll cut Percieve since it's been mentioned in all of Apollo's profiles. It's much more likely for it to return as say, the Magatama, since it hasn't been referenced at all.
And the fact that Apollo tried percieving at one point makes me think he'll be able to percieve for real at the climax of case 2.
And the fact that Apollo tried percieving at one point makes me think he'll be able to percieve for real at the climax of case 2.
I haven't seen anything you guys are talking about, but yeah, if Apollo tried to perceive and failed, he'll be able to do it for real at some point. There'd be no point referencing it otherwise. (and don't say it would just be to show it doesn't work. There are other ways to do that, and this way would just confuse players.)
Also, Perceiving was pretty much the only thing that distinguished Apollo from Phoenix on a mechanics level, so there'd be no point to having him in the game in the first place if he couldn't do it.
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It falls 15 years in the future after GS4? So Phoenix went back to being a lawyer after Apollo Justice?
Im just confused as to what happened with future Apollo and Phoenix back in lawyering and I guess I was under the impression GS5 fell between 3 and 4 as far as the timeline?
I hope my confusion isn't annoying anyone D:
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Otherwise I'd wanna know what Phoenix and Edgeworth did to look that young for being in their middle-to-late 50s.
And why Trucy still looks so young, given how she would 30 by then.
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What? As far as I know, GS5 takes place one year after GS4.
Otherwise I'd wanna know what Phoenix and Edgeworth did to look that young for being in their middle-to-late 50s.
And why Trucy still looks so young, given how she would 30 by then.
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Otherwise I'd wanna know what Phoenix and Edgeworth did to look that young for being in their middle-to-late 50s.
And why Trucy still looks so young, given how she would 30 by then.
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I dont know how many years, I forget where I read that.
But!
Yeah so if it takes place after GS4 (where we have non-lawyer hobo phoenix) did he go back to lawyering?
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Black-Harmonia wrote:
CatMuto wrote:
What? As far as I know, GS5 takes place one year after GS4.
Otherwise I'd wanna know what Phoenix and Edgeworth did to look that young for being in their middle-to-late 50s.
And why Trucy still looks so young, given how she would 30 by then.
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Otherwise I'd wanna know what Phoenix and Edgeworth did to look that young for being in their middle-to-late 50s.
And why Trucy still looks so young, given how she would 30 by then.
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I dont know how many years, I forget where I read that.
But!
Yeah so if it takes place after GS4 (where we have non-lawyer hobo phoenix) did he go back to lawyering?
Evidently.
He did say he could take the bar exam again now that his name was cleared at the end of GS4.
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I came upon a random thought after watching the trailer. There's one line where Phoenix says "We have to help her." Obviously, that could be anyone, but I have a theory...
What if he's talking about Athena? At one point, Phoenix and Apollo get into an argument that ends with Apollo leaving the offices for a while, and Athena is nowhere in sight. I doubt she'd simply be in the other room overhearing their argument, since Trucy is there too.
The next image we see is of Athena by her lonesome, standing in the collapsed courtroom.
And where does Yugami come into all this? Since he's still a criminal, I doubt he'd be in the position to choose his own cases. Edgeworth or someone at the Prosecutor's Office probably assigned him to these certain cases - maybe because despite his sentence, there's no other prosecutor who can fight like he can (psychological manipulation and all that). Then, Detective Ban is assigned to them because he used to work with Yugami.
And suddenly, Pearl shows up in the office. It can't just be a casual visit, but why would she be there? Is that scene from the 2nd, 3rd or a later case? What are the 4th and 5th cases going to be about to involve so many recurring major characters?
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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
And suddenly, Pearl shows up in the office. It can't just be a casual visit, but why would she be there? Is that scene from the 2nd, 3rd or a later case? [...] Too many questions!
Yeah, like:
Is that actually in whatever preview material you guys have been so excited about these past few days, or is that just a scene from your mind?
I'm asking because I've seen a lot of people talk about things they made up as facts, so I'm not sure what to believe anymore.
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beterbomen wrote:
Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
And suddenly, Pearl shows up in the office. It can't just be a casual visit, but why would she be there? Is that scene from the 2nd, 3rd or a later case? [...] Too many questions!
Yeah, like:
Is that actually in whatever preview material you guys have been so excited about these past few days, or is that just a scene from your mind?
I'm asking because I've seen a lot of people talk about things they made up as facts, so I'm not sure what to believe anymore.
You can see Pearl in the newest trailer.
Don't you read the news on court-records.net?
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Does phoenix return to lawyering in GS5? Is that what happened?
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I still think what occured to me is either a big plot hole or something that needs to be addressed. I need it clarified for my sake for sure!
Does phoenix return to lawyering in GS5? Is that what happened?
Does phoenix return to lawyering in GS5? Is that what happened?
Yep. Something in GS5 makes Phoenix return. In the words of the English trailer, "I'm back for one reason and one reason only. To settle the score." Of course, we still don't know what that score is.
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ADA McCoy wrote:
Black-Harmonia wrote:
I still think what occured to me is either a big plot hole or something that needs to be addressed. I need it clarified for my sake for sure!
Does phoenix return to lawyering in GS5? Is that what happened?
Does phoenix return to lawyering in GS5? Is that what happened?
Yep. Something in GS5 makes Phoenix return. In the words of the English trailer, "I'm back for one reason and one reason only. To settle the score." Of course, we still don't know what that score is.
Maybe he thinks he still hasn't evened the score with Edgeworth.
Or Kristoph, for some reason, is still at large.
Or maybe Phoenix just has a personal vendetta against the Judge.
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Or maybe Phoenix just has a personal vendetta against the Judge.
I am really hoping that this shows up somewhere in the game - as in, what the Judge thinks.
beterbomen wrote:
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And suddenly, Pearl shows up in the office. It can't just be a casual visit, but why would she be there? Is that scene from the 2nd, 3rd or a later case? [...] Too many questions!
Yeah, like:
Is that actually in whatever preview material you guys have been so excited about these past few days, or is that just a scene from your mind?
I'm asking because I've seen a lot of people talk about things they made up as facts, so I'm not sure what to believe anymore.
If you've seen the new trailer, Pearl shows up to talk to Nick. It's not confirmed when that happens, but it's confirmed that it happens.
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Or maybe Phoenix just has a personal vendetta against the Judge.
I am really hoping that this shows up somewhere in the game - as in, what the Judge thinks.
I'm sure the Judge already suspects Phoenix to do something, seeing as in 2-4 he suspects Phoenix of wanting to off him. I think that was one of the few funny parts in 2-4 that I actually liked...
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ADA McCoy wrote:
Black-Harmonia wrote:
I still think what occured to me is either a big plot hole or something that needs to be addressed. I need it clarified for my sake for sure!
Does phoenix return to lawyering in GS5? Is that what happened?
Does phoenix return to lawyering in GS5? Is that what happened?
Yep. Something in GS5 makes Phoenix return. In the words of the English trailer, "I'm back for one reason and one reason only. To settle the score." Of course, we still don't know what that score is.
I can now sleep at night!
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Lusankya wrote:
beterbomen wrote:
Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
And suddenly, Pearl shows up in the office. It can't just be a casual visit, but why would she be there? Is that scene from the 2nd, 3rd or a later case? [...] Too many questions!
Yeah, like:
Is that actually in whatever preview material you guys have been so excited about these past few days, or is that just a scene from your mind?
I'm asking because I've seen a lot of people talk about things they made up as facts, so I'm not sure what to believe anymore.
You can see Pearl in the newest trailer.
Don't you read the news on court-records.net?
Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
beterbomen wrote:
Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
And suddenly, Pearl shows up in the office. It can't just be a casual visit, but why would she be there? Is that scene from the 2nd, 3rd or a later case? [...] Too many questions!
Yeah, like:
Is that actually in whatever preview material you guys have been so excited about these past few days, or is that just a scene from your mind?
I'm asking because I've seen a lot of people talk about things they made up as facts, so I'm not sure what to believe anymore.
If you've seen the new trailer, Pearl shows up to talk to Nick. It's not confirmed when that happens, but it's confirmed that it happens.
Wait, so the "new" trailer is actually a new trailer?! I'd seen the announcement on court-records.net, but I thought it was just old news! I'm going to check this out!
EDIT: Oh... my...
Things are certainly getting a lot more "Anime-y" fast, aren't they?
Not that I'm complaining, of course.
Also, Peal is starting to look a little bit like Mia, I'd say.
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