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To be honest, for an Xbox console, that makes no difference, as since there's not many games that aren't released in both NA and Europe, and Japan doesn't really give a damn about any Xbox so there's hardly any JP exclusives.
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To be honest, for an Xbox console, that makes no difference, as since there's not many games that aren't released in both NA and Europe, and Japan doesn't really give a damn about any Xbox so there's hardly any JP exclusives.


Hehe you're actually right I forgot because Japan hates Xbox.

Though Don Mattrick says he expects this console will make a real dent in Japan.

How they are going to do that with a huge black VHS I don't know.
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Hehe you're actually right I forgot because Japan hates Xbox.

Though Don Mattrick says he expects this console will make a real dent in Japan.

How they are going to do that with a huge black VHS I don't know.

In case you didn't know, until the PS2 was discontinued, the PS2 sold more units than the 360 in Japan per week. Microsoft are just deluding themselves if they think a game console that's more an 'entertainment centre' than a game console will be successful in Japan. The last time someone tried that, it failed miserably. Sony was responsible for it, and it was called the PSX. The PSX is pretty much my whole argument as to why the X1 was fail in Japan just like the Xbox and the 360 did.

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Big whoop. The other Xbox consoles were also region locked.
I doubt this will have much of an impact on players. And I doubt it would affect the sales in any way, whether they had chosen to keep it region locked or be nice and remove that thing.

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You know, last time I checked I thought that game consoles were all about, I don't know, THE GAMES!??? Have Microsoft just dug themselves their own graves!? No backwards compatibility, region lock, a fee for used games, always online, the same rehashed franchises, likely hundreds of dollars in cost, a monster of a console, lame controller, and a whole bunch of other things. Sorry, but PS4 just killed this one even if that's a flawed console too. I'm glad I bought a Wii U, though. Plus, PC isn't going anywhere either. The title Xbox One is so misleading. It isn't "all in one." I could go into detail, but I'll let Annoyed Gamer do the rest.

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Oh yeah, and with the way they're marketing this thing; there's no hope for Xbox One in Japan. Outside of the US, who exactly cares about NFL? Plus, all the shows and sponsors are all AMERICAN. They don't care at all about international markets its seems. I'm American, and I can already see how lame this is. The games don't even look that impressive. Hideo Kojima's Fox Engine looks ten times better, and that's for CURRENT gen consoles and PC. :yuusaku:
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And EA were just kissing Microsoft's arse the whole time.
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And EA were just kissing Microsoft's arse the whole time.


Yup. That's the whole reason why they suspended their season passes because they new they would get the money back anyways. Microsoft has now become a money-grubbing corporation, and in my eyes they're just as bad as EA.
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And EA were just kissing Microsoft's arse the whole time.


Yup. That's the whole reason why they suspended their season passes because they new they would get the money back anyways. Microsoft has now become a money-grubbing corporation, and in my eyes they're just as bad as EA.

And I can't believe someone at EA openly dissed the Wii U. When we're on the cusp of a new generation, that's exactly what you DON'T do. That's alienating possible customers before the new generation's begun, although with how bad (and unnecessary) the Origin service is, and how they've been handling things recently in general (particularly the disaster that was the SimCity launch), maybe Nintendo consoles are better off without EA, if EA completely jump to the Xbox One ship, although maybe that ship is soon to sink.
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Weejus wrote:
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And EA were just kissing Microsoft's arse the whole time.


Yup. That's the whole reason why they suspended their season passes because they new they would get the money back anyways. Microsoft has now become a money-grubbing corporation, and in my eyes they're just as bad as EA.

And I can't believe someone at EA openly dissed the Wii U. When we're on the cusp of a new generation, that's exactly what you DON'T do. That's alienating possible customers before the new generation's begun, although with how bad (and unnecessary) the Origin service is, and how they've been handling things recently in general (particularly the disaster that was the SimCity launch), maybe Nintendo consoles are better off without EA, if EA completely jump to the Xbox One ship, although maybe that ship is soon to sink.


Yeah, I remember seeing that. I actually commented a lot on the IGN news article that reported on that story. Not only is that stupid, but it's so unprofessional. They call the Wii U "crap" when you've been voted the worst company in America. What a bunch of hypocrites. I personally like Nintendo, and I think they make great first party games. I find it ironic that all the Microsoft fanboys were convinced that the Xbox One would be amazing. Look how wrong they were for making fun of the Wii U, which already is a better console. :hotti:
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And I can't believe someone at EA openly dissed the Wii U. When we're on the cusp of a new generation, that's exactly what you DON'T do. That's alienating possible customers before the new generation's begun, although with how bad (and unnecessary) the Origin service is, and how they've been handling things recently in general (particularly the disaster that was the SimCity launch), maybe Nintendo consoles are better off without EA, if EA completely jump to the Xbox One ship, although maybe that ship is soon to sink.


Yeah, I remember seeing that. I actually commented a lot on the IGN news article that reported on that story. Not only is that stupid, but it's so unprofessional. They call the Wii U "crap" when you've been voted the worst company in America. What a bunch of hypocrites. I personally like Nintendo, and I think they make great first party games. I find it ironic that all the Microsoft fanboys were convinced that the Xbox One would be amazing. Look how wrong they were for making fun of the Wii U, which already is a better console. :hotti:
All I say is 'come on then EA, let's see you make a better console'. Actually they shouldn't, it would end up being the 'DLCtron Sponsored by Mountain Dew/Doritos. That's the actual title of the console.
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Based on the response to their terrible miscommunications I can't imagine Xbox will go through with the fees now. They'll be frantically revising their plans in a desperate attempt to put something favourable out at E3.

Though EA actually are developing for Wii U now I heard they'd went back on their statement because EA are whores.
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Though EA actually are developing for Wii U now I heard they'd went back on their statement because EA are whores.

EA are whores though. They'll jump on any bandwagon if they can see themselves making profit out of it.
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Though EA actually are developing for Wii U now I heard they'd went back on their statement because EA are whores.

EA are whores though. They'll jump on any bandwagon if they can see themselves making profit out of it.


Yeah but it's disturbing how rich they are, eventually we'll be left with no choice but to support them if they get ahold of too many things.
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Yeah but it's disturbing how rich they are, eventually we'll be left with no choice but to support them if they get ahold of too many things.

The worst case scenario would be a 1984-esque dystopian future where Microsoft and EA rule all.
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Yeah but it's disturbing how rich they are, eventually we'll be left with no choice but to support them if they get ahold of too many things.

The worst case scenario would be a 1984-esque dystopian future where Microsoft and EA rule all.


....that's a pretty bad worst case scenario...
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Pierre wrote:
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Yeah but it's disturbing how rich they are, eventually we'll be left with no choice but to support them if they get ahold of too many things.

The worst case scenario would be a 1984-esque dystopian future where Microsoft and EA rule all.


....that's a pretty bad worst case scenario...

It's all possible. *10 years later, cue Back to the Future II-esque plot where someone goes back to now and stops MS and EA from finding success with the Xbox One...somehow*
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My husband just sent me a link to this gif.
It's hilariously fitting.

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Whoever made that is a genius. Also, the Animaniacs Game Boy game is better than the Xbox One (and I'm not saying that like the game's bad, the game's actually quite good).
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You know, last time I checked I thought that game consoles were all about, I don't know, THE GAMES!??? Have Microsoft just dug themselves their own graves!? No backwards compatibility, region lock, a fee for used games, always online, the same rehashed franchises, likely hundreds of dollars in cost, a monster of a console, lame controller, and a whole bunch of other things. Sorry, but PS4 just killed this one even if that's a flawed console too. I'm glad I bought a Wii U, though. Plus, PC isn't going anywhere either. The title Xbox One is so misleading. It isn't "all in one." I could go into detail, but I'll let Annoyed Gamer do the rest.

Oh yeah, and with the way they're marketing this thing; there's no hope for Xbox One in Japan. Outside of the US, who exactly cares about NFL? Plus, all the shows and sponsors are all AMERICAN. They don't care at all about international markets its seems. I'm American, and I can already see how lame this is. The games don't even look that impressive. Hideo Kojima's Fox Engine looks ten times better, and that's for CURRENT gen consoles and PC. :yuusaku:


I agree that Xbox seems to concentrate on the US market and leaving the Asian and European market behind. Xbox isn't popular to begin with in Asia (or so I've heard) and in Europe the extra functions (Nettflix & Youtube etc.) are very rarely used. Hell the whole concept of Nettflix is pretty much non-existent here, so the whole multi-media experience doesn't fly here. US users of Xbox do tend to use these services more and probably will be a valuable addition to their living room.
And that's what Microsoft wants: to dominate the living room. With more games being sold on phones and tablets the gaming market has become less profitable over the last few years. With all the competition on the home console market I can understand Xbox trying to appeal to a wider audience (not that I agree, but I can understand).

Also: backwards-compatibility is pretty expensive. You basically need to build an Xbox 360 in the one for that, which ramps up the price around 100 Dollars. This is one of the causes why PS3 was so expensive during launch and suffered quite a bit for it. Again: a shame, but an understandable decision.

I really agree about the games though. I'm sick of these overly safe games like: shoot the bad guys: dogs edition or sports: whatever year it is. I hope E3 will change my mind about it though.
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I agree that Xbox seems to concentrate on the US market and leaving the Asian and European market behind. Xbox isn't popular to begin with in Asia (or so I've heard) and in Europe the extra functions (Nettflix & Youtube etc.) are very rarely used. Hell the whole concept of Nettflix is pretty much non-existent here, so the whole multi-media experience doesn't fly here. US users of Xbox do tend to use these services more and probably will be a valuable addition to their living room.
And that's what Microsoft wants: to dominate the living room. With more games being sold on phones and tablets the gaming market has become less profitable over the last few years. With all the competition on the home console market I can understand Xbox trying to appeal to a wider audience (not that I agree, but I can understand).

Also: backwards-compatibility is pretty expensive. You basically need to build an Xbox 360 in the one for that, which ramps up the price around 100 Dollars. This is one of the causes why PS3 was so expensive during launch and suffered quite a bit for it. Again: a shame, but an understandable decision.

I really agree about the games though. I'm sick of these overly safe games like: shoot the bad guys: dogs edition or sports: whatever year it is. I hope E3 will change my mind about it though.

Considering the PS3 wasn't making a profit until 2010, I can see why Microsoft decided not to opt for backwards compatibility with the X1. And I'm not defending MS here but a lot of series have played it safe throughout gaming history, nowadays it's CoD and 2D Mario games (I think sports games don't count as if they're trying to be realistic there's not much you can change). Back in the past the Mega Man series played it safe until Mega Man X, and Street Fighter literally regurgitated the same game five times (even more if you count the GBA, Hyper, XBLA, and HD releases). Long story short, throughout history developers have always continued to play it safe with sequels because past instalments were popular to the point where they could crap in a disc case and sell it for £40, which is pretty much what they did with Modern Warfare 3.

And if Microsoft really cared about the tablet industry, they would be developing all games for Surface now.
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I've always wanted fish to be more realistic in my games. Now with the Xbox One, my wish is finally granted! Your move other game developers.


Fish in video games have been realistic since Super Mario 64. :hotti:
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I've always wanted fish to be more realistic in my games. Now with the Xbox One, my wish is finally granted! Your move other game developers.


Fish in video games have been realistic since Super Mario 64. :hotti:


I highly doubt it. The N64 is an ancient rock incapable of rendering hairy arms.
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Blak The Great wrote:
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I've always wanted fish to be more realistic in my games. Now with the Xbox One, my wish is finally granted! Your move other game developers.


Fish in video games have been realistic since Super Mario 64. :hotti:


I highly doubt it. The N64 is an ancient rock incapable of rendering hairy arms.

Since when can ancient rocks run Banjo-Kazooie and Ocarina of Time?
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Fish in video games have been realistic since Super Mario 64. :hotti:


I highly doubt it. The N64 is an ancient rock incapable of rendering hairy arms.

Since when can ancient rocks run Banjo-Kazooie and Ocarina of Time?


Since they were made. Now we've emulators and 3DS ports.
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Since when can ancient rocks run Banjo-Kazooie and Ocarina of Time?


Since they were made. Now we've emulators and 3DS ports.

On the subject of 3DS ports, couldn't Rare port Banjo-Kazooie to the 3DS? They did it with Diddy Kong Racing a few years back and since Microsoft have yet to create a handheld system it's all possible, right?
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Since when can ancient rocks run Banjo-Kazooie and Ocarina of Time?


Since they were made. Now we've emulators and 3DS ports.

On the subject of 3DS ports, couldn't Rare port Banjo-Kazooie to the 3DS? They did it with Diddy Kong Racing a few years back and since Microsoft have yet to create a handheld system it's all possible, right?


Sorry, but that would never happen as long as Microsoft still owns Rare's IPs. They wouldn't want their competitors making a profit off of something they own. That's also the reason why we'll never see Goldeneye on Virtual Console or XBLA because there are too many disputes between Nintendo and Microsoft. The Goldeneye game that came out in 2010 was handled by Activison and it's completely unrelated other than the scenario and general plot. It does make some references to the original N64 game though.
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Sorry, but that would never happen as long as Microsoft still owns Rare's IPs. They wouldn't want their competitors making a profit off of something they own. That's also the reason why we'll never see Goldeneye on Virtual Console or XBLA because there are too many disputes between Nintendo and Microsoft. The Goldeneye game that came out in 2010 was handled by Activison and it's completely unrelated other than the scenario and general plot. It does make some references to the original N64 game though.

Well there was also a DS port of Viva Pinata, and we saw some B-K games on the GBA after MS bought Rare.
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Sorry, but that would never happen as long as Microsoft still owns Rare's IPs. They wouldn't want their competitors making a profit off of something they own. That's also the reason why we'll never see Goldeneye on Virtual Console or XBLA because there are too many disputes between Nintendo and Microsoft. The Goldeneye game that came out in 2010 was handled by Activison and it's completely unrelated other than the scenario and general plot. It does make some references to the original N64 game though.

Well there was also a DS port of Viva Pinata, and we saw some B-K games on the GBA after MS bought Rare.


I guess that's true. But those handheld games were handled by THQ in conjunction with Rare. THQ doesn't exist anymore, so unless they find another 3rd party developer, I don't see them making games for handhelds anytime soon.
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Sorry, but that would never happen as long as Microsoft still owns Rare's IPs. They wouldn't want their competitors making a profit off of something they own. That's also the reason why we'll never see Goldeneye on Virtual Console or XBLA because there are too many disputes between Nintendo and Microsoft. The Goldeneye game that came out in 2010 was handled by Activison and it's completely unrelated other than the scenario and general plot. It does make some references to the original N64 game though.

Well there was also a DS port of Viva Pinata, and we saw some B-K games on the GBA after MS bought Rare.


I guess that's true. But those handheld games were handled by THQ in conjunction with Rare. THQ doesn't exist anymore, so unless they find another 3rd party developer, I don't see them making games for handhelds anytime soon.

I dunno, Majesco maybe? Never Activision though, as we've seen what they're 'capable' of...*shudders uncontrollably* Crash of the Titans...Skylanders...
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Highly doubt it. Majesco isn't even doing that well right now. They could file bankruptcy or get bought out by a bigger studio. Nah, Activision isn't that bad. Sure, they do Call of Duty which is the most ridiculously over-hyped, over-exaggerated, and repetitive game series out there; but beyond that they aren't a bad company. I liked their classic Atari games from when they were starting out, and Goldeneye 007 is one of the best games on the Wii in my opinion. Plus, they also published Doom 3, and a bunch of other games that have received decent reviews like True Crime, Spyro, and Crash Bandicoot. Now if it was EA... :beef:
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Potentially a great revival here:

All those great big evils that the Xbox One was hated for are now gone like that.

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Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience.

For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future.

Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One.

You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.

So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:

An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.

Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.

In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console -- there will be no regional restrictions.

These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.

We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity. While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds.

Thank you again for your candid feedback. Our team remains committed to listening, taking feedback and delivering a great product for you later this year.


Those words came from Don Mattrick, the colossal tool who claimed "Backwards compatibility is really backwards!" amongst other fanbase-insulting things.


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This is pure gold.


It's almost like their entire campaign from the conception of the 360 was just to set up that pun in the future.
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I still ain't gonna buy it~
Don't care what changes they make, I don't buy a new console simply because it's a new console. Nuh-uh, they have to show me some damn good game series that will appear on that thing, several that I'm interested in, before I even consider buying it used.

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Microsoft's just changing their policies because they saw how far ahead Sony was pre-orders of the PS4. They're not doing it for the fans, they're doing it because they don't want to lose money. Honestly, I'm not too thrilled about either console. Sure, you've got prettier graphics; but there isn't any game that particular makes me want to rush out and buy the system day one. Most of the games are coming out for current gen, anyways. If anything, the unveiling of these consoles just makes me excited to buy a PS3; since the price will obviously drop considerably. I've missed out on an entire generation of exclusive games, and I've got to make up for that. Not that I'm complaining about owning an Xbox 360 or Wii U. I've gotten tons of enjoyment out of both systems.
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On topic, I'm not exactly pleased with this. Honestly, screw Microsoft for being so arrogant as to think they could get away with this, then backpeddling like crazy when they saw how badly it went and how bad they looked. Then they change it all and say it's because they "listen" and that they "care". Give it up guys, you're not fooling anyone.
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Professor Yoshi wrote:
On topic, I'm not exactly pleased with this. Honestly, screw Microsoft for being so arrogant as to think they could get away with this, then backpeddling like crazy when they saw how badly it went and how bad they looked. Then they change it all and say it's because they "listen" and that they "care". Give it up guys, you're not fooling anyone.


I concur Professor, it's easy to see they don't mean it at all and are having their hands forced with the prospect of just selling pittance.

I'm increasingly worried that these policies they lauded so massively are too far in for them to wholly avoid and it'll get to the point where they start gradually introducing these policies with updates. I mean by that point some poor souls will have already paid for the console.
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Pierre wrote:
Professor Yoshi wrote:
On topic, I'm not exactly pleased with this. Honestly, screw Microsoft for being so arrogant as to think they could get away with this, then backpeddling like crazy when they saw how badly it went and how bad they looked. Then they change it all and say it's because they "listen" and that they "care". Give it up guys, you're not fooling anyone.


I concur Professor, it's easy to see they don't mean it at all and are having their hands forced with the prospect of just selling pittance.

I'm increasingly worried that these policies they lauded so massively are too far in for them to wholly avoid and it'll get to the point where they start gradually introducing these policies with updates. I mean by that point some poor souls will have already paid for the console.


Indeed. It wasn't long ago Microsoft were telling people that if they didn't like the way they were doing things with the Xbox One, go back to the 360. You can't take back smart-alecky comments like that and expect a bit of ass-kissing to make it all better.
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