"I just want to know one thing" - Dual Destinies Edition

Post by **Bolt Storm** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:44 am

Time for a time-honored C-R tradition. The trouble with trying to find out something about a game like Ace Attorney is that you can't just wander into a thread and start looking, lest you hit a wall of spoilers. So what do you do?

Well, you come here. This thread can be used to ask any question about the game, and someone who has it will do their best to answer you. Answers will be properly spoiler tagged, of course.

As for questions, use your own judgment when it comes to spoiler tags - asking "how's the Judge's voice" doesn't need a spoiler tag. Asking "I saw a video of character Y killing victim X, why did Y do that" does.

Also, this topic shouldn't be used for walkthrough questions - we'll have a separate one for that. :minuki:

Ask away!

Charlieboy90 · Post by **Charlieboy90** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:00 am

Let's get the ball rolling.

Does Ema appears or is she referenced at all?
Also, what about Trucy's and Klavier's character themes? Are they the same from AA4 or are they updated remixes?

GyakutenGodot · Post by **GyakutenGodot** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:02 am

I shall start with a few questions.

1. How many cases are there?
2. Is there a flashback case? If not is there at least an old case that is mentioned?
3. Are the returning characters fanservicey like in AAI or are they actually useful.
4. Is there a final boss, in the sense that there is someone who is involved with all the cases that you face off with at the end? Just Yes or No.
5. Do Case 2 and 3 take place after Case 1?
6. Do we get to play as anyone besides the characters already announced? Just yes or no. Also. Are there any other prosecutors we get to play against besides the ones already announced.
7. How good is the first case as far as first cases go. Better than 4-1? Can you rank it compared to other first cases?
Even if you can just answer one question thats fine. Thanks!

DonteTheDA · Post by **DonteTheDA** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:36 am

I just got one: Does Maya show up?

M5432 · Post by **M5432** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:41 am

Spoiler: Case 1

Lusankya · Post by **Lusankya** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:08 am

Charlieboy90 wrote:Let's get the ball rolling.

Also, what about Trucy's and Klavier's character themes? Are they the same from AA4 or are they updated remixes?

Trucy has an updated version of her AJ theme. We could hear it back in June in some Capcom show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8QvY_2g8Rw 9:50, there are no spoilers.

GyakutenGodot wrote:I shall start with a few questions. Non are spoilery at all, but i will put them in a spoiler just to make sure.

5. Is it true that Case 2 and 3 take place after Case 1?

I guess you mean before? ;) I'll put it in spoiler tags just to be sure, but actually this is long known from promotional material.

Spoiler:

Akurossu · Post by **Akurossu** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:10 am

GK2 spoilers for the question just in case:

Spoiler:

D.A. McCoy · Post by **D.A. McCoy** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:15 am

Alright, here are my questions.

1. How many cases are in the game?

2. Does Ema Skye appear in the game at all? Please do not give any story details; Just a "yes or no" would be great.

3. Does Fransiska Von karma appear in the game at all? Please do not give any story details; Just a "yes" or "no" would be great.

4. How would you compare the end case/ending/finale of the game with the endings of the other games? Is it a Cliff-Hangar? In your opinion, does it make a good possible series finale? (for us western fans out there) Please don't give any actual story details; Try to be as vague as possible and respond without mentioning anything about the actual ending; I'm just interested in your opinions on it.

5. (This question requires knowledge of the Manga so no worries if no one can answer this) Does the game contradict the Official Phoenix Wright and Miles Edgeworth manga in any way? (Specifically regarding characters who were in the manga, if they say something like "I haven't seen you since that case from T&T" or something like that, thereby contradicting the post-GS3 manga.) However, please don't tell me the details, as in "Yeah, this person says the last case they did together was 3-5", but rather just a "Yes" or "No".

Thanks to hoever ends up responding to this!

Lusankya · Post by **Lusankya** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:26 am

Please don't use spoiler tags when the questions don't need them! At least label them properly or describe them. For example, how am I supposed to know if I can read ADA McCoy's questions or not?

GyakutenGodot · Post by **GyakutenGodot** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:37 am

Lusankya wrote:Please don't use spoiler tags when the questions don't need them! At least label them properly or describe them. For example, how am I supposed to know if I can read ADA McCoy's questions or not?

You make a valid point. I put mine in spoilers as well, but I stated that there were no spoilers in them. We're just trying to be safe rather than sorry here. But year for the future the person asking questions should state whats being spoiled before the spoiler. For example state GS3 spoilers, or Case 1 spoilers.

D.A. McCoy · Post by **D.A. McCoy** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:41 am

Lusankya wrote:Please don't use spoiler tags when the questions don't need them! At least label them properly or describe them. For example, how am I supposed to know if I can read ADA McCoy's questions or not?

I apologize; I was trying to be as cautious as possible. What defines what should be tagged. For instance, If I'm asking if a character returns or not, does both the question and the answer need spoiler tags, or only the answer?

Post by **Bolt Storm** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:55 am

ADA McCoy wrote:
Lusankya wrote:Please don't use spoiler tags when the questions don't need them! At least label them properly or describe them. For example, how am I supposed to know if I can read ADA McCoy's questions or not?
I apologize; I was trying to be as cautious as possible. What defines what should be tagged. For instance, If I'm asking if a character returns or not, does both the question and the answer need spoiler tags, or only the answer?

For questions that don't themselves spoil part of the game, there's no need to tag them. So asking if Ema returns is fine - but the answer should be spoiler tagged.

Auburnsun · Post by **Auburnsun** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:55 am

Spoiler:

D.A. McCoy · Post by **D.A. McCoy** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:57 am

Bolt Storm wrote:
ADA McCoy wrote:
Lusankya wrote:Please don't use spoiler tags when the questions don't need them! At least label them properly or describe them. For example, how am I supposed to know if I can read ADA McCoy's questions or not?
I apologize; I was trying to be as cautious as possible. What defines what should be tagged. For instance, If I'm asking if a character returns or not, does both the question and the answer need spoiler tags, or only the answer?
For questions that don't themselves spoil part of the game, there's no need to tag them. So asking if Ema returns is fine - but the answer should be spoiler tagged.

Thanks. i fixed it.

Lusankya · Post by **Lusankya** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:10 am

ADA McCoy wrote: I apologize; I was trying to be as cautious as possible. What defines what should be tagged. For instance, If I'm asking if a character returns or not, does both the question and the answer need spoiler tags, or only the answer?

Only the answer in this case. Questions don't need spoilers, if they don't spoil anything (without a corresponding answer).
E.g. your second question: "Does Ema Skye appear in the game at all? Please do not give any story details; Just a "yes or no" would be great." doesn't spoil anything, because the reader still doesn't know whether she appears or not. They will only know if they also read the answer.

But knowing this question exists is helpful for me, because now I don't have to ask it myself. ;)

In short:
- Don't spoiler tag questions, unless they give information away without the need of an actual answer (e.g. "why did person X murder victim y?" is a spoiler because it gives the murderer away even without an answer. "Who is the killer of case z?" isn't a spoiler, becauser without answer we don't know anything more than before)
- If you use spoiler tags, label/describe them properly.
- If you answer multiple questions, answer each of them separately and make clear what question you're actually answering. Then people can easier look up just the answer of a specific question without reading others they don't want to know.
- For answers always use spoiler tags when in doubt.

Ok, that wasn't that short, but I hope you get my point. :)

Edit: @AdaMcCoy: Thank you for editing your post. I really appreciate it.

D.A. McCoy · Post by **D.A. McCoy** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:18 am

Lusankya wrote:
ADA McCoy wrote: I apologize; I was trying to be as cautious as possible. What defines what should be tagged. For instance, If I'm asking if a character returns or not, does both the question and the answer need spoiler tags, or only the answer?
Only the answer in this case. Questions don't need spoilers, if they don't spoil anything (without a corresponding answer).
E.g. your second question: "Does Ema Skye appear in the game at all? Please do not give any story details; Just a "yes or no" would be great." doesn't spoil anything, because the reader still doesn't know whether she appears or not. They will only know if they also read the answer.

But knowing this question exists is helpful for me, because now I don't have to ask it myself. ;)

In short:
- Don't spoiler tag questions, unless they give information away without the need of an actual answer (e.g. "why did person X murder victim y?" is a spoiler because it gives the murderer away even without an answer. "Who is the killer of case z?" isn't a spoiler, becauser without answer we don't know anything more than before)
- If you use spoiler tags, label/describe them properly.
- If you answer multiple questions, answer each of them separately and make clear what question you're actually answering. Then people can easier look up just the answer of a specific question without reading others they don't want to know.
- For answers always use spoiler tags when in doubt.

Ok, that wasn't that short, but I hope you get my point. :)

Edit: @AdaMcCoy: Thank you for editing your post. I really appreciate it.

No problem! Thanks for explaining that to me!

SuperAj3 · Post by **SuperAj3** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:55 am

1. Is Maya present in the game?
2. Are there any recurring characters accused of Murder? (Just a "yes or "no" will suffice)

AdventureWriter28 · Post by **AdventureWriter28** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:17 pm

Just a reply for those who ask if Maya appears in the AA5 game.

Spoiler:

Ridley · Post by **Ridley** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:05 pm

AdventureWriter28 wrote:Just a reply for those who ask if Maya appears in the AA5 game.

Spoiler:
Overall yes, Maya appears. It's on gamefaqs.

Spoiler:

wolf lonnie · Post by **wolf lonnie** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:10 pm

What happened to the jurors?

elisaerth · Post by **elisaerth** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:38 pm

Ridley wrote:
AdventureWriter28 wrote:Just a reply for those who ask if Maya appears in the AA5 game.

Spoiler:
Overall yes, Maya appears. It's on gamefaqs.

Spoiler:
can anyone translate what she's saying or knows the context of this?

Spoiler:

Shadow Magician · Post by **Shadow Magician** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:56 pm

I have two questions. I just want a yes or no answer, if that's okay.
1. Is Ema Skye in the game or referenced at all?
2. Is Kristoph Gavin mentioned at any point?

Shuda51 · Post by **Shuda51** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:07 pm

General non-spoilerly question:

Do all the returning characters have a remixed version of their original themes? If so/not, spoiler list them.

elisaerth · Post by **elisaerth** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:45 pm

Shadow Magician wrote:I have two questions. I just want a yes or no answer, if that's okay.
1. Is Ema Skye in the game or referenced at all?
2. Is Kristoph Gavin mentioned at any point?

Spoiler:

noletters · Post by **noletters** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:59 pm

Does Detective Gumshoe get a mention at all? Yes or no will suffice.

capefeather · Post by **capefeather** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:10 pm

What's are the dates of the earliest and latest cases chronologically?

Flying walrus · Post by **Flying walrus** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:10 pm

New here. Couple questions.
For those who have finished the game, how does it compare? Also how does the last case stack up against other final cases?
In your opinion is there any significant difference in this game that would warrant an M rating? Keep as spoiler-free as possible.
What's the general tone of the game? Is it more or less light- hearted than previous entries? Again keep the answer spoiler-free, or as spoiler-free as possible.
Lastly, how long is the game? If you could post your exact playtime

Gold · Post by **Gold** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:26 pm

Spoiler: Lategame spoilers(?)

Tag your spoilers. One-day suspension. -Bolt

GyakutenGodot · Post by **GyakutenGodot** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:41 pm

Flying walrus wrote: In your opinion is there any significant difference in this game that would warrant an M rating? Keep as spoiler-free as possible.

I havent played it, but read a minor spoiler on the the "Dual Destinies got an M rating?!" thread here. Apparently, yes the game is darker and more violent in tone. There is one scene apparently were...

Spoiler: Minor Spoilers, no names

Flying walrus · Post by **Flying walrus** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:51 pm

GyakutenGodot wrote:
Flying walrus wrote: In your opinion is there any significant difference in this game that would warrant an M rating? Keep as spoiler-free as possible.
I havent played it, but read a minor spoiler on the the "Dual Destinies got an M rating?!" thread here. Apparently, yes the game is darker and more violent in tone. There is one scene apparently were...
Spoiler: Minor Spoilers, no names
Someone gets completely splattered with someone else's blood.

Thanks.

Spoiler: In regards to the minor spoiler...

Regardless, very excited for the game. Hope "Fall" doesn't mean December :yuusaku:

dirtypantsdan · Post by **dirtypantsdan** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:46 pm

Any mention of anything Gyakuten Kenji related? Or at least any small cameos/references?

Tiagofvarela · Post by **Tiagofvarela** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:41 pm

1. Does any of the original music (basically anything from the other games, to be honest) return in critical or nostalgic moments? Like in the final case from Trials and Tribulations?
2. Do any of the characters from previous games get new animations? (If so, would it be possible to post it somewhere? I don't particulary care if I get spoiled)

(Sorry if these have been asked already, by the time I've finished reading this thread I've already forgoten most of the questions posted here

).

Voodoo Lady · Post by **Voodoo Lady** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:24 pm

Does the guilty party in case 1 (not that we don't know who it is, but w/e) have a breakdown, and if so, what is it like?

Post by **Bolt Storm** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:32 pm

Voodoo Lady wrote:Does the guilty party in case 1 (not that we don't know who it is, but w/e) have a breakdown, and if so, what is it like?

Spoiler: Case one culprit

GyakutenGodot · Post by **GyakutenGodot** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:10 am

Bolt Storm wrote:
Voodoo Lady wrote:Does the guilty party in case 1 (not that we don't know who it is, but w/e) have a breakdown, and if so, what is it like?

Spoiler: Case one culprit
Yes. You can see it here.

So Bolt, now that you finished Case 1, can you comment on how you feel it compares to other first cases?

linkenski · Post by **linkenski** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:25 am

I'd like to ask someone who's played the game, how is the writing compared to the other numbered GS games? I've been skeptical as I don't think Mr. Yamazaki quite hit the spot with the script in AAI, though it could've been because of localisation as well.

DoMaya · Post by **DoMaya** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:09 am

AdventureWriter28 wrote:Just a reply for those who ask if Maya appears in the AA5 game.

Spoiler:
Overall yes, Maya appears. It's on gamefaqs.

To click? Or not to click? That is the question.
Whether it is better to know for sure and perhaps be saddened,
By the irreconcilable stone of truth.
Or to deny, and live in hopeful agony, To live another day with empty chamber
To load, to pull, to sleep.
And wait no longer, to see the glory with mine own eyes.

>write the above down
>go to sleep
>wake up the next day
>see new posts have been written
>Decide to quote one
>Wants to be dramatic
>find out spoiler text can be seen when quoted from a spoiler.
>I am an idiot.

DerpeyHerpmann · Post by **DerpeyHerpmann** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:09 am

I have seen a screenshot featuring

Spoiler: Possibly a HUGE spoiler

Is this photoshopped? Just yes or no answers.

DonteTheDA · Post by **DonteTheDA** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:34 am

Spoiler:

AmethystnoHoshi · Post by **AmethystnoHoshi** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:46 am

AdventureWriter28 wrote:Just a reply for those who ask if Maya appears in the AA5 game.

Spoiler:
Overall yes, Maya appears. It's on gamefaqs.

Spoiler:

Don't repost spoiler answers in different phrasing without tags. -Bolt