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Am I the only one who who's always wondered what the hell happened to Phoenix's parents? He's the only main character who's parents are never brought up or even mentioned in passing. I've always wondered where the heck his parents were when he was a kid in that class trial, and when he was in university getting arrested for murder. I was thinking that maybe GS6 could shine a little light onto that, but maybe that wouldn't be a good idea, I dunno.
Interesting! Damn, I never even thought of that! Now I really wonder what Phoenix's parents would be like!
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GoingforMiles wrote:
Anyway, I'd like a murder to take place in some kind of enclosed space. Like "the murderer is someone in this very room! 
" *gasp!* 
I guess it's a little Agatha Christie-esque, but I think it'd be possible to play around a little with the set-up.
" *gasp!* I guess it's a little Agatha Christie-esque, but I think it'd be possible to play around a little with the set-up.And what if all the people in said room were main characters, the kind of characters you would normally never suspect? For example, the murder takes place at the Wright Anything Agency so the murderer has to be one of them? I don't know if it's feasible but it's interesting to think about.
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Jozerick wrote:
I had an idea about a murder that took place in an orphanage - namely, the orphanage where Apollo grew up. It could be a good opportunity to learn more about Apollo's childhood.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
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And what if all the people in said room were main characters, the kind of characters you would normally never suspect
Ohh, I like that! The way I'm imagining it, it'd be quite daunting, realizing that it really has to be one of them, but the question is who. And definitely no chickening out and going "No wait, there's a hidden tunnel here the scary killer used to get in and then get out again before the lights came back!"
No, all the way! (This could be an opportunity to kill off someone we already know as well if we're into that kind of thing.) Basically, I want the developers to take more risks with the story.
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I had an idea about a murder that took place in an orphanage - namely, the orphanage where Apollo grew up. It could be a good opportunity to learn more about Apollo's childhood.
That would actually be a great opportunity to disclose Gavin backstory and reintroduce Kristoph without spoiling anything about AJ ;)
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Jozerick wrote:
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Anyway, I'd like a murder to take place in some kind of enclosed space. Like "the murderer is someone in this very room! " *gasp!* I guess it's a little Agatha Christie-esque, but I think it'd be possible to play around a little with the set-up.
" *gasp!* I guess it's a little Agatha Christie-esque, but I think it'd be possible to play around a little with the set-up.And what if all the people in said room were main characters, the kind of characters you would normally never suspect? For example, the murder takes place at the Wright Anything Agency so the murderer has to be one of them? I don't know if it's feasible but it's interesting to think about.
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I had an idea about a murder that took place in an orphanage - namely, the orphanage where Apollo grew up. It could be a good opportunity to learn more about Apollo's childhood.
That would actually be a great opportunity to disclose Gavin backstory and reintroduce Kristoph without spoiling anything about AJ ;)
Um... right, I don't want to shoot this down, but I'm having a hard time understanding why Kristoph would become babysitter to Apollo... unless Kristoph back then actually had a heart. But then, how'd he get to be so crooked?
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I'd be satisfied if it was ever announced or stated in a future game that Apollo was a rabid Phoenix Wright fanboy back in the day, but it might not explain enough.
Normally, I don't take that much interest in flashback cases since they're sometimes thrown in there about people I've just met in a game, but if one is done with a recurring character, it could work out better.
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Have the Jury be represented by, maybe a bar at the bottom (or top) of the screen, with a line indicating on whether they are leaning more towards voting your client Guilty or Not Guilty.
Have the line not always start in the perfect middle, but maybe off to one of the sides, indicating that they are influenced by the client's appearance or background. Prove that the Jury are people influenced by prejudice, personal standards or ideas.
And they could even make a case about how the Jury system seems unbalanced and have it turn out in the case that there is one Juror (or Jurist?) who has indirectly been manipulating the other members, making it more and more difficult to get a Not Guilty verdict for a client.
That would be so interesting!
By the way, on a quick note, can someone tell me why the Jury system was removed in GS5? Was that ever mentioned and explained why it's gone or is it just something that disappeared due to the dark days of the law, before the game's start?
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My idea for GS6 would be want I wanted for GS5: bring the Jury system back! Make it into an actual gameplay mechanic. I'm definitely repeating myself with how it would work, but it would be really interesting.
Have the Jury be represented by, maybe a bar at the bottom (or top) of the screen, with a line indicating on whether they are leaning more towards voting your client Guilty or Not Guilty.
Have the line not always start in the perfect middle, but maybe off to one of the sides, indicating that they are influenced by the client's appearance or background. Prove that the Jury are people influenced by prejudice, personal standards or ideas.
And they could even make a case about how the Jury system seems unbalanced and have it turn out in the case that there is one Juror (or Jurist?) who has indirectly been manipulating the other members, making it more and more difficult to get a Not Guilty verdict for a client.
That would be so interesting!
By the way, on a quick note, can someone tell me why the Jury system was removed in GS5? Was that ever mentioned and explained why it's gone or is it just something that disappeared due to the dark days of the law, before the game's start?
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Have the Jury be represented by, maybe a bar at the bottom (or top) of the screen, with a line indicating on whether they are leaning more towards voting your client Guilty or Not Guilty.
Have the line not always start in the perfect middle, but maybe off to one of the sides, indicating that they are influenced by the client's appearance or background. Prove that the Jury are people influenced by prejudice, personal standards or ideas.
And they could even make a case about how the Jury system seems unbalanced and have it turn out in the case that there is one Juror (or Jurist?) who has indirectly been manipulating the other members, making it more and more difficult to get a Not Guilty verdict for a client.
That would be so interesting!
By the way, on a quick note, can someone tell me why the Jury system was removed in GS5? Was that ever mentioned and explained why it's gone or is it just something that disappeared due to the dark days of the law, before the game's start?
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It's a good question, and one of the big mysteries and questions of GS5. My guess is, they really didn't know how to run with it and figured since they were ditching so much of Apollo Justices' Arc that could be tossed with it. It was introduced supposedly to cast a good light on the legal system in actual Japan which had recently adopted a jury system itself.
However I figure they didn't know how to incorporate it into actual gameplay. It could be like Cat suggested, hell it doesn't even need to be that difficult. Just have that bar swayed to "guilty" at the start (because the person is indicted for SOME reason) then have it sway whenever Phoenix disproves something. Then when the prosecution/culprit manages to deflect a theory or does a new testimony have it swing back to guilty in light of the new evidence.
Then whenever you make a mistake just have the judge complain about "wasting the jury's time" and have it act exactly the same as a penalty. When your penalties are up the judge says "the Jury are ready to hand down their verdict" and bam.
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But the Apollo game itself was rather... lackluster, let's call it that.
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A "Mood Meter" for a jury doesn't serve much use. The story is too linear for an application like that.
It'd give the penalty bar an interesting new look, and every time whoever's defending disproves one of the prosecution's claims, the bar is "restored" because the jury is gradually leaning toward the defense. This would work very well in a game where the outcomes of the trials aren't set and there are multiple endings to explore with a given verdict.
However, beside a couple exceptions, every time we got our client a guilty verdict, it's always the same game-over sequence.
Nonetheless, the Jurist System itself can be implemented into the games anyway. It won't be as a game mechanic, but a plot device. It'd also tie up that loose end, which currently has left a wide gaping hole in the canon of GS5, even if it hasn't actually definitively contradicted anything.
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Me like! I never thought about the Jurist system actually working in a whole game, but of course, instead of having the trial end and the client being found guilty if you screw up, the trial end and the jurors vote for guilty. I really like the idea of a manipulative juror as well.
Seconded! I liked that too, especially the idea of a manipulative juror. 12 Angry Men AA-style!
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I can even picture a character who's an avid cosplayer and hi's name being "Caz Paley" Picture that for a second, at one point he dresses up as a a character from a different capcom franchise. Heck maybe Edgeworth could show up due to some steel samurai event, like Will powers making a guest appearance at the con or something.
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This is probably the best place to post this idea, i want a case that place in a convention center, during a comic con like event.
I can even picture a character who's an avid cosplayer and hi's name being "Caz Paley" Picture that for a second, at one point he dresses up as a a character from a different capcom franchise. Heck maybe Edgeworth could show up due to some steel samurai event, like Will powers making a guest appearance at the con or something.
I can even picture a character who's an avid cosplayer and hi's name being "Caz Paley" Picture that for a second, at one point he dresses up as a a character from a different capcom franchise. Heck maybe Edgeworth could show up due to some steel samurai event, like Will powers making a guest appearance at the con or something.
That's a pretty interesting idea especially if Will Powers has become like an old action star XD
Though it might seem a bit of a shameless flog of Capcom if they have someone dressed up as someone from another franchise. I imagine if they did it again it'd be based around the usual Jammin Ninja/Metal Samurai/Pink Princess franchises.
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How about bringing back as the lead detective throughout the game?
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I would definitely see something more like air balloon or something.
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It would actually be because he was already dead and was dropped out of a private jet owned by the murderer. The defendant would be a short guy who dressed up like an elf to assist the mall Santa.
Those two things are completely contradictory to each other, as I doubt a mall Santa or his sidekick would earn enough money to own a private jet. It's completely unbelieveable, nobody in their right mind would actually think that this little elf-guy killed Santa in a private jet...
It's perfect for the AA-verse!
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How about bringing back as the lead detective throughout the game?
back as the lead detective throughout the game?I'd rather not XP
Older!Ema is a character with mixed reception at best. Stick with a new detective or make wise old Gumshoe return to the fore.
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Damarus wrote:
Pierre wrote:
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How about bringing back as the lead detective throughout the game?
back as the lead detective throughout the game?I'd rather not XP
Older!Ema is a character with mixed reception at best. Stick with a new detective or make wise old Gumshoe return to the fore.
Teen Ema is fine, but after she fails her exam and becomes a spiteful unlikeable woman she's done in my eyes.
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Once you get to know her, she does warm up on the people around her a bit, and she's more grumpy than spiteful, I think.
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I have an idea for a case: Turnabout Noel. As the name implies, it would be a Christmas themed case. The victim could be a mall Santa who appeared to die by falling out of the sky, causing Trucy to believe that he was the real Santa. It would actually be because he was already dead and was dropped out of a private jet owned by the murderer. The defendant would be a short guy who dressed up like an elf to assist the mall Santa. You could examine areas of a workshop themed attraction set up for Christmas. They could bring back Larry as the mall Santa's temporary replacement.
What? Another Christmas murder? Why can't we have one on Black Friday? Them crowds.
Haha, I'm kidding. "Black Friday" doesn't exist in Japan. I mean, they do have the Bon Festival in the late summer, but you know...
I'm up for another holiday-themed murder. Valentine's Day would be a good time. Heh heh heh...
...I want to go to a mall setting for a murder. There could be a lot of witnesses to question and evidence that can be hidden.
But what I want the most, is to have hardened bread or batter to become a murder weapon. Let one of those DLC quiz ideas come to life, I say.
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I don't know, actually. I actually though that the development she got was one of the few best things about AJ, separating her a whole lot from all the other, I admit it, a bit cliché female teenage sidekicks.
Once you get to know her, she does warm up on the people around her a bit, and she's more grumpy than spiteful, I think.
Once you get to know her, she does warm up on the people around her a bit, and she's more grumpy than spiteful, I think.
Yeah but all change is not necessarily good, and she still doesn't win points for me.
Sure I'll say she's accurate for a 'broken' character, much like Phoenix was a 'broken' version of himself in AJ but doesn't mean she has to be likeable.
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A murder around V-Day? Well, as long as they make sure it is displayed as the Japanese one: ie. girls giving chocolates to men, not any guy giving a girl a present. Hah, for fun's sake, let the murder weapon be drowning in chocolate. Or overeating.
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Wouldn't overeating clearly be a suicide, not a murder? ...unless it's about force-feeding an infant, but that's just cruel. Then again, playing a case as Apollo, with a babysitter/nanny as a defendant, can lead to some fun discussions in court. It sounds like something Klavier would take just to have a chance to mock Apollo about child-raising. Phoenix's role as a father is also taken into question at some point. Hey, if GS6 becomes Apollo's sequel, they could totally fit it in at some point.
Also, for no real reason, we should get a chocolate statue of Wright because this picture is a classic.
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A murder around V-Day? Well, as long as they make sure it is displayed as the Japanese one: ie. girls giving chocolates to men, not any guy giving a girl a present. Hah, for fun's sake, let the murder weapon be drowning in chocolate. Or overeating.
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I think it's already Japanese enough without going into "White Day" and "Valentines Day" differences, they'd almost certainly localise that.
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Yes. The game is very Japanese with its best noodles made west of the rockies...
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Point is folks been recently giving the latest game a lot of trouble because apparently it's just impossible to believe it's set in Los Angeles.
I don't really see that much trouble (at least no more than before with Kurain Village) but I imagine since the one-direction gift giving of Japanese Valentines Day and White Day might seem a bit off to folks who didn't know about them they'd almost certainly localise it to be regular Valentines day.
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I... I see...
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