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Damn it, this has so much potential. But I wouldn't bet on it coming to the West. If they thought they could only release the original PW here by changing everything to 'California' and burgers and all. I'm still hoping, but we'll probably end up disappointed.
It's a PROPER new story, location (era) and cast. And hopefully Takumi has the creative freedom he was denied when 'tied down' in making jurist propaganda etc. in GS4. (and also in PL vs PW he still had to work with the Layton characters).

Of course since the new protagonist is a variation on Phoenix's name, what will they call him IF it's localised?
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Of course since the new protagonist is a variation on Phoenix's name, what will they call him IF it's localised?


Nicholas. Peter. Maybe, although I highly doubt it and this is kind of a fun example, they'll call him Suzaku after the red phoenix of the south. But I doubt it, too Japanese and all. I still think that's a stupid reason to not localize something.

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Being the crazy person fan that I am, I looked up baby names starting with 'Ph' and found "Phoebus" being the closest, but I liked "Philemon".

Also, I don't know if this is relevant at all, but I've stumbled across some higher quality scans of the article (With clearer views on the artwork)
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"Archimedes Wright"? ...okay, no... >__>
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Now we just need the text translated.
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icer wrote:
Of course since the new protagonist is a variation on Phoenix's name, what will they call him IF it's localised?


It's obviously Phoelo Wrice as a blender name of both Phoenix's and Apollo's full names.

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Now we just need the text translated.


Someone on Tumblr (Masamim, to be precise) already translated the text, actually!

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Vivi wrote:
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Of course since the new protagonist is a variation on Phoenix's name, what will they call him IF it's localised?


It's obviously Phoelo Wrice as a blender name of both Phoenix's and Apollo's full names.

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Now we just need the text translated.


Someone on Tumblr (Masamim, to be precise) already translated the text, actually!

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Thank you for the link!

Btw. this passage is interesting:

"K: The details are still under wraps, but next time, we will expect to show some game play screenshots, as well as more information. The visuals and presentation have been drastically changed, so I’m sure there will be many people that will say, “So that’s the angle they took!” in surprise. Until then, please wait but be excited!"

I wonder if that means they won't use the Dual Destinies engine and no 3D models at all?
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Being the crazy person fan that I am, I looked up baby names starting with 'Ph' and found "Phoebus" being the closest, but I liked "Philemon".

I'm not too sure the name starting with "Ph" is the most important part. The mythological aspect has much bigger connotations, to the point where Polly and Thena received the same treatment. If anything, he's gonna be named after some Greek mythological character, since that's been the theme. Since there's still plenty of names to pick from all those myths, I'm sure the team can pick an appropriate one, should it come over.
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How about Perseus? Or would that be too, "in your face?" I can kind of imagine this beautiful flower girl calling him Percy

Plus, Perseus Wright sounds kind of badass
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Being the crazy person fan that I am, I looked up baby names starting with 'Ph' and found "Phoebus" being the closest, but I liked "Philemon".

I'm not too sure the name starting with "Ph" is the most important part. The mythological aspect has much bigger connotations, to the point where Polly and Thena received the same treatment. If anything, he's gonna be named after some Greek mythological character, since that's been the theme. Since there's still plenty of names to pick from all those myths, I'm sure the team can pick an appropriate one, should it come over.


This. If it gets localized, I really don't think the team will be too concerned about the fact that this new character's Japanese name is a mix of Phoenix's and Apollo's Japanese name counterparts.
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This. If it gets localized, I really don't think the team will be too concerned about the fact that this new character's Japanese name is a mix of Phoenix's and Apollo's Japanese name counterparts.

I agree with you. They probably won't care about that.

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I wonder if that means they won't use the Dual Destinies engine and no 3D models at all?


No 3D on a new 3DS game ? I don't believe that. No, I think that mean they're going to change the angle from which we see the defense bench.
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I wonder if that means they won't use the Dual Destinies engine and no 3D models at all?


No 3D on a new 3DS game ? I don't believe that. No, I think that mean they're going to change the angle from which we see the defense bench.

But looking at the picture from Famitsu, we see his "standing at the bench" pose at the exact same angle as previous attorneys.
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Well, maybe they didn't want to spoil this too early. Or maybe there will be many points of view in the trial and this was just the part when he says "the defense is ready" so the camera has to focus on him.
Or maybe I'm wrong, we'll see.
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I wonder if that means they won't use the Dual Destinies engine and no 3D models at all?


No 3D on a new 3DS game ? I don't believe that. No, I think that mean they're going to change the angle from which we see the defense bench.

But looking at the picture from Famitsu, we see his "standing at the bench" pose at the exact same angle as previous attorneys.

IMO a 2D sprite 3DS title could have just as good 3D visuals as Dual Destinies (which honestly didn't have a very good 3D effect IMO. The characters didn't have enough 3D depth when the slider was on "full")

I'd love to see that high-quality artwork from Kazuya Nuri from the trailer be completely animated in hand-drawn sprites! Remember, meanwhile AA6 will probably just reuse the Dual Destinies engine and have 3D polygonal models. We've got that covered :)
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I also thought DD wasn't so beautiful.
I mean, yeah it was beautiful, but I found PLvsPW better made... Even in the dub and animated cutscenes.
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Sierra Mikain wrote:
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Being the crazy person fan that I am, I looked up baby names starting with 'Ph' and found "Phoebus" being the closest, but I liked "Philemon".

I'm not too sure the name starting with "Ph" is the most important part. The mythological aspect has much bigger connotations, to the point where Polly and Thena received the same treatment. If anything, he's gonna be named after some Greek mythological character, since that's been the theme. Since there's still plenty of names to pick from all those myths, I'm sure the team can pick an appropriate one, should it come over.


This. If it gets localized, I really don't think the team will be too concerned about the fact that this new character's Japanese name is a mix of Phoenix's and Apollo's Japanese name counterparts.

Not to be a mood killer, but it's actually a mix of Phoenix's and Grossberg's names. >:3

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No 3D on a new 3DS game ? I don't believe that. No, I think that mean they're going to change the angle from which we see the defense bench.

But looking at the picture from Famitsu, we see his "standing at the bench" pose at the exact same angle as previous attorneys.

IMO a 2D sprite 3DS title could have just as good 3D visuals as Dual Destinies (which honestly didn't have a very good 3D effect IMO. The characters didn't have enough 3D depth when the slider was on "full")

I'd love to see that high-quality artwork from Kazuya Nuri from the trailer be completely animated in hand-drawn sprites! Remember, meanwhile AA6 will probably just reuse the Dual Destinies engine and have 3D polygonal models. We've got that covered :)

Honestly, the 3D engine on the 3DS kinda sucks. It doesn't matter what game you play on it; it's 3D models being displaced from their 2.5D backgrounds with the slider on, and you should never set it on "full" for the sake of your eyes.

Thank goodness Nuri is back again. His art style is one of the best for this series. Actually, 2D sprites on a 2.5D background could work. It'd remind me of those traditional paper puppet theater dramas. If I recall correctly, they've done something similar in an Okami game before...
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Thank you for posting the translation, Vivi!

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——So Phoenix Wright(Naruhodo Ryuichi)’s ancestor is the main character. What kind of person is Ryunosuke?

T: Well, just think “Meiji era” and “Phoenix(Naruhodo kun)’s ancestor”, and imagine what kind of person he would be.


Hm, I'm not sure how to feel about that. I was sort of hoping for something a tad more different, but hey, it's too early to judge.

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K: Exactly the way she looks. She is a Yamato Nadeshiko and is capable of tying up loose ends that need to be tied up. She is a very reliable girl.

Under some circumstance, this young lady ends up being Naruhodo’s judicial assistant. A lover of foreign detective stories, she is a dreamer and a progressive thinking yamato nadeshiko. At first glance, she seems to be a “reliable, high-class lady”


Now this is more like it! It sounds like there'll actually be a clear difference between her and Maya, who would never even pretend to be a "high-class lady". She's probably still going to be a plucky teenager, but as long as she's not a complete Maya clone, I'll be happy.

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I hope that's true; I love Ace Attorney, but I really hope they won't just make it an Ace Attorney game set 100 years in the past just for the hell of it.
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Not to be a mood killer, but it's actually a mix of Phoenix's and Grossberg's names. >:3


Grossberg's real name is Lemon, after all??????????????????
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Not to be a mood killer, but it's actually a mix of Phoenix's and Grossberg's names. >:3


Grossberg's real name is Lemon, after all??????????????????

Uh... wha? I-I guess... maybe?

Oh dear God, what if Ryuu smells like LEMONS!?

Dammit, Sierra! What have you done!? Now I can't think otherwise!! XD Gaaaargh...

For those wondering, Grossberg's Jap name is Soranosuke Hoshikage. The "nosuke" bit is exactly the same.
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So...site banner/redesign contest imminent?

Woost's been trying to pull something together, but there's sadly little in the way of released art for the game, which makes it a bit tricky.

If anyone wants to come up with a banner, though, we'd be happy to take a look!
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So...site banner/redesign contest imminent?

Woost's been trying to pull something together, but there's sadly little in the way of released art for the game, which makes it a bit tricky.

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I hope that's true; I love Ace Attorney, but I really hope they won't just make it an Ace Attorney game set 100 years in the past just for the hell of it.


I fully agree with you, I'd like for it to more than just be Ace Attorney in the past, since this game just oozes potential. Although even if it's just AA in the past I'd still fork over my money to Capcom to get my hands on it if it's released in English
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Bolt Storm wrote:
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So...site banner/redesign contest imminent?

Woost's been trying to pull something together, but there's sadly little in the way of released art for the game, which makes it a bit tricky.

If anyone wants to come up with a banner, though, we'd be happy to take a look!

Well, yeah, not right this second. I just meant...you know, being under consideration.

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Wow, it's been a long time since I last posted, but I thought this was worth posting, seeing how so many people are saying Ryunosuke's name is a mix of Phoenix's and Apollo's...
I always thought that having "nosuke" at the end of a name makes it sound old. So what I think is that it is basically Phoenix's name but just older sounding.
Considering that Takumi said the following, I can imagine these were his thoughts as well:
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P.S. I have virtually no knowledge of Japanese, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
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Wow, it's been a long time since I last posted, but I thought this was worth posting, seeing how so many people are saying Ryunosuke's name is a mix of Phoenix's and Apollo's...
I always thought that having "nosuke" at the end of a name makes it sound old. So what I think is that it is basically Phoenix's name but just older sounding.
Considering that Takumi said the following, I can imagine these were his thoughts as well:
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P.S. I have virtually no knowledge of Japanese, so take what I say with a grain of salt.


From Ryunosuke's look, he doesn't strike me as silly as Phoenix is, I'm thinking a more serious attorney.
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Well, I am not saying he's exactly like Phoenix. His name, and apparently his personality as well, is just Phoenix if he were born in the Meiji era instead.
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Wow, it's been a long time since I last posted, but I thought this was worth posting, seeing how so many people are saying Ryunosuke's name is a mix of Phoenix's and Apollo's...
I always thought that having "nosuke" at the end of a name makes it sound old. So what I think is that it is basically Phoenix's name but just older sounding.
Considering that Takumi said the following, I can imagine these were his thoughts as well:
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T: Well, just think “Meiji era” and “Phoenix(Naruhodo kun)’s ancestor”, and imagine what kind of person he would be.


P.S. I have virtually no knowledge of Japanese, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

The thing is, "-suke" is a really generic suffix for boys' names in Japanese. You could compare it to the "-son" part of someone called "Johnson" or "Jackson" and such.
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Yeah, but having nosuke is different than having just suke. ...Right?
And Ryunosuke is definitely Ryu + nosuke.
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Yeah, but having nosuke is different than having just suke. ...Right?
And Ryunosuke is definitely Ryu + nosuke.

Well, they are different because they're different names, but the suke part is the same. Anyway, having suke or nosuke in a name would suggest youth, not age. Granted, calling your kid "Naninosuke" is a little more old-fashioned than just "Nanisuke", but it's not a big difference.
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I'd love it if Ryu and Susato were called "Keith" and "Meg" at one stage in the game (Or any other nod to obscure situations Phoenix and Maya got into).
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It really feels like the Ace Attorney series is starting up again, with DD and PLvsAA in a realatively short time period, and now the announcement of this. I'm glad I got into the games when I did, I had perfect time to play the existing games and when I was done with those these new one came and come. I'd love to get a new "classical" AA from Takumi, but at the same time it's good he avoids getting stuck in the tracks. It makes me feel hope for the franchise as a whole.
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I've been away for a while, and while I've tried my best to keep up with the news regarding this game, I haven't yet read this topic all the way through, so forgive me if I miss one or two details. Just wanted to let my excitement be known as this looks really cool.

I hate to be pessimistic, but I would imagine that this will not get localized, based on the very specific setting. However, if Dual Destinies did really well I could see getting this. The problem is we still don't know how it did, and we don't have anyone like Sven to ask about this stuff. I also feel like the absence of an announcement for the Original Trilogy re-release is a bad sign, as that would have seemed to be a really cheap way to make some more money off the franchise. The fact that we haven't heard anything about it coming out here worries me.

(Also, to be quite honest, considering DD/GS5 was the AA game I'd wanted since getting into the series, and considering that I kind of burned myself out on AA by playing all of the games in a row nonstop, I'm not filled with immense excitement for this at the moment. If we hear a localization announcement, or in a few months when I'm out of AA overload, I'll be just as obsessed with this game's development as GS5's.)

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You won't believe it, but the next Gyakuten Saiban game is in this week's issue of Famitsu magazine. No detail is available at the moment, except the title : Dai Gyakuten Saiban : Naruhodou Ryuunosuke no Bouken. Apparently, game takes place during the... Meiji Era. For those wondering : it IS Shu Takumi's mysterious new project, teased during the last JP Nintendo Direct (there's even an interview in the mag). It's for the Nintendo 3DS.

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The idea of a AA game set in the past sounds a really interesting idea actually - I do wonder how the US translators will deal with that though. Surely this game is going to be "too Japanese" to localise and obviously you cant have any modern references, so maybe we'd just get translated text, if at all.
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Bad Player wrote:
Wait, I just realized/remembered, wasn't there a GS-ish mystery game set in Meiji Japan for iOS a while ago?


I wondered about that too.
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Huddini wrote:
What the hell is this thing here?


Something wrong with the scan Huddini? Thats the new protagonist.
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grim_tales wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
Wait, I just realized/remembered, wasn't there a GS-ish mystery game set in Meiji Japan for iOS a while ago?


I wondered about that too.


I've the feeling I've already answered the question somewhere, but that was Capcom's EdoTan (Edo + Tantei), set somewhere in the Edo/Tokugawa period (i.e. the 400 year period before the Meiji period).
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Arigatou Gozaimasu!
Trailer looks interesting (though of course I cant understand it)... they'll probably go with "darker/serious but slightly quirky" tone I think. I dunno, maybe they could tie it into modern AA somehow with Phoenix reading about his ancestor.

I noticed a "..." x "..." in the title. Hmmm.
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