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davech1987 wrote:
Wow , well I must have an ok jobcentre advisor then because had to go for post-work programme interview and he was really laid back and easy going and he said because you done alot of courses and already doing volunteer work ge will just leave me to your own devices,
When issue of travel to interview money was brought up he told me how the jobcentres stance on it is but discreetly tried to tell me even thought not meant to give him a call and he will try and help. So I think I was lucky guy I have seems to be quite laid back . We did have a long conversation on bad press they got and rumors of targets for sanctions.
I was nto aware of the bonus aspect for benefits cheats but if people are going to cheat the system and they do they should be punished , what I don't like is hearing about people getting sancationed if they are more than 5 mins late to an appointment and I have been told alot of sanactions can be done to poor admin on the jobcentres part.
Fair enough if you plan for kids but have more than you planned it does happen the documntary I watched had a guy with 26 kids all living under same roof minus maybe 2 olders ones. He was DEMANDING the council give him a bigger house :O.
Yes by the point where people are having that many children just so they have money from the council I think something should be done. However all the options are horrific considering the circumstances. You could take a child away from the parent which is pretty monstrous or you could refuse and let the children fall into poverty.
It's a lose lose situation for the government.
As for your guy yeah he does sound like a pretty chilled advisor but another problem is it's a target-based system. They don't care how likely or whether you are even qualified for a job so long as you meet your quota...which is a problem as it means they care less for the quality of the application and whether you actually get a job. They arguably benefit from you NOT getting a job as it keeps them in business. Some companies (particularly big ones like GAME, Tesco, etc) they get a massive amount of applicants and so to trim down on this process they keep applications sent into them for 6 months. Or at least that's what they say, it might just be a tactic the reduce the sheer number of applications they get. In any case my girlfriend was being told to apply for jobs in those stores WEEKLY even when due to this policy they won't consider the application she sends in.
I'm certain advisers at the job centre aren't bad people...but the might be overly jaded due to dealing with a lot of bad people at times.
Still I have no problem with cheats being punished by no means but by rewarding the person who finds the cheats it encourages them to be harsher and scrutinise everyone. What might be an honest mistake someone didn't notice might be taken for a benefit cheat.
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I don't know about those volunteer things, I don't think my place had those. Although I do have to say, what's the point in working there if you don't get paid? I get the experience part, but a little payment would be nice. Doesn't even have to be much, but just something, so you feel like you aren't wasting your time working for someone for free when you could've grabbed a job during the time you were there.
You kinda answered your own question there: Experience.
The government-enforced work experience...yeah it's slave labour basically. You will get your unemployment benefit but not actual pay from the company and from the hours you work? The unemployment benefit will work out as substantially lower than if you had an actual wage now I'm not talking like sweat shop wages literally but basically that.
In other situations volunteer jobs are typically done by places that don't have a lot of money to offer anyway. Charity shops, shelters, animal care units...these places don't make a lot of money on their own and when they do it's for a higher cause so only managerial levels get paid there where others join from the goodness of their heart or for some experience.
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