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They also showed off a naked Shulk skin. Is that a reference to anything in Xenoblade?
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Still not very surprising, given how good Xenoblade was. And hopefully this puts an end to the rumors of him being a straight up Marth clone.
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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
You forgot the trailer! For shame!
Still not very surprising, given how good Xenoblade was. And hopefully this puts an end to the rumors of him being a straight up Marth clone.
Still not very surprising, given how good Xenoblade was. And hopefully this puts an end to the rumors of him being a straight up Marth clone.
I was watching the Nintendo Direct, I didn't know they'd upload the trailer that quickly! Still, he looks unique, so hopefully I can see if I like how he plays, and maybe it'll get me into the series?
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As for why he's naked? I dunno...perhaps it's just fanservice. You could unequip all your gear and be naked in the game or equip stuff that is practically naked (like swimming trunks). If it is just for fanservice...well...lets just say I hope Namco doesn't get to handle smash anymore, the Samus stuff and this just makes me uneasy.
Can't wait for an English trailer. Good to see Gaur Plains made it in, along with all of Xenoblade's AWESOME music and that they recognise "Back Slash" is the way to go XD
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtMlqTeS_JE#t=35
Also, they just announced they're remaking the first Xenoblade for 3DS, so I guess those that missed the first one can get into the series. (Maybe this is why they waited to announce him as a newcomer?)
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Shulk's sword, the Monado, has the ability to hit the opponents with its beam when activated, making an otherwise short/mid-range swordsman into a long range fighter as well:
In addition, you can change the Monado Arts to not only suit your playstyle but to also throw your opponents off guard. Knowing how and when to change styles is the key to victory. Sakurai lists the arts as follows:
翔 (Jump): higher jumps, lower defense.
疾 (Speed): faster movement, weaker attacks.
盾 (Shield): higher defense, slower movement.
斬 (Buster): stronger attacks, weaker launch ability.
撃 (Smash): Stronger launch ability, weaker attacks, lower defense against launching.
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Mijumaru wrote:
Here's the English trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtMlqTeS_JE#t=35
Also, they just announced they're remaking the first Xenoblade for 3DS, so I guess those that missed the first one can get into the series. (Maybe this is why they waited to announce him as a newcomer?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtMlqTeS_JE#t=35
Also, they just announced they're remaking the first Xenoblade for 3DS, so I guess those that missed the first one can get into the series. (Maybe this is why they waited to announce him as a newcomer?)
That's nice but I'm like 50% of the way through it on Wii. I guess I'll see if it's a proper remake or an up-rez or just a port before I make any decision.
Also "It's Shulk Time", that's Reyn's line!
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I'm really surprised the Final Smash is Riki+Dunban. I'm not sad, cuz those are my two favorite characters, but... yesssss. I wonder if their costumes will change with Shulk's. That is to say, if you use Naked Shulk, then you get...
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Naked Shulk? MWHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
I'm really surprised the Final Smash is Riki+Dunban. I'm not sad, cuz those are my two favorite characters, but... yesssss. I wonder if their costumes will change with Shulk's. That is to say, if you use Naked Shulk, then you get...
I'm really surprised the Final Smash is Riki+Dunban. I'm not sad, cuz those are my two favorite characters, but... yesssss. I wonder if their costumes will change with Shulk's. That is to say, if you use Naked Shulk, then you get...
If you get Naked Dunban it'd be worth playing Naked Shulk.
Though in fairness Shulk can probably learn the skill that makes Naked Dunban worthwhile from him.
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But... dear god I hope the FS character costumes change with Shulk's.
I kind of wonder if it will always be Riki+Dunban or not. If it isn't, then I could see it either be completely randomized, or one of three pairs (Riki+Dunban, and then probably Reyn+Sharla and Melia+Seven maybe?)
I... don't actually really like the full roster from the leak that came out a bit ago. But it'd be worth it if the FS characters do indeed change costume with Shulk (and especially if it's always sets to Riki+Dunban)
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Mijumaru wrote:
Blademaster_Orca wrote:
You forgot the trailer! For shame!
Still not very surprising, given how good Xenoblade was. And hopefully this puts an end to the rumors of him being a straight up Marth clone.
Still not very surprising, given how good Xenoblade was. And hopefully this puts an end to the rumors of him being a straight up Marth clone.
I was watching the Nintendo Direct, I didn't know they'd upload the trailer that quickly! Still, he looks unique, so hopefully I can see if I like how he plays, and maybe it'll get me into the series?
I can't seem to find the vid or the Nintendo Direct? Does anyone have a link to that?
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Anthony wrote:
I thought Shulk was another god damn Fire Emblem character but I was wrong..... What SSB need is...... SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG!
Shadow the Hedgehog is actually in the game as a summon.
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Pierre wrote:
Anthony wrote:
I thought Shulk was another god damn Fire Emblem character but I was wrong..... What SSB need is...... SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG!
Shadow the Hedgehog is actually in the game as a summon.
Truly? Huh, didn't know that. Plus, you'd think Amy Rose, Big The Cat, Vector the Crocodile, Knuckles the Echidna, Espio the Chameleon, Charmy the Bee, Rouge the Bat, Omega something, Robotnik, or really most of the cast would provide a more unique move set.
Especially considering that Shadow and Sonic literally have the same move set in the games as far as I can tell, save for the one with guns.
Found the Nintendo Direct, but... I can't translate it. BP would know how to as far as I know here, and Hodou from AAO would as well, but he's probably asleep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghFEU4t_Pm8
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genodragon1 wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Anthony wrote:
I thought Shulk was another god damn Fire Emblem character but I was wrong..... What SSB need is...... SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG!
Shadow the Hedgehog is actually in the game as a summon.
Truly? Huh, didn't know that. Plus, you'd think Amy Rose, Big The Cat, Vector the Crocodile, Knuckles the Echidna, Espio the Chameleon, Charmy the Bee, Rouge the Bat, Omega something, Robotnik, or really most of the cast would provide a more unique move set.
Especially considering that Shadow and Sonic literally have the same move set in the games as far as I can tell, save for the one with guns.
Found the Nintendo Direct, but... I can't translate it. BP would know how to as far as I know here, and Hodou from AAO would as well, but he's probably asleep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghFEU4t_Pm8
I might be going on assumption here, he was in the previous one and I swear I saw him appear in a trailer somewhere along the road.
Though his fighting style is slightly different from Sonic's in that he uses teleportation and energy attacks.
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When I saw the whole "I can see the future" at the beginning there I was like "OK, how are they going to pull that shit off?" I looks more like a counter attack than anything, so that's clever, I think.
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Found the Nintendo Direct, but... I can't translate it. BP would know how to as far as I know here, and Hodou from AAO would as well, but he's probably asleep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghFEU4t_Pm8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghFEU4t_Pm8
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genodragon1 wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Anthony wrote:
I thought Shulk was another god damn Fire Emblem character but I was wrong..... What SSB need is...... SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG!
Shadow the Hedgehog is actually in the game as a summon.
Truly? Huh, didn't know that. Plus, you'd think Amy Rose, Big The Cat, Vector the Crocodile, Knuckles the Echidna, Espio the Chameleon, Charmy the Bee, Rouge the Bat, Omega something, Robotnik, or really most of the cast would provide a more unique move set.
Especially considering that Shadow and Sonic literally have the same move set in the games as far as I can tell, save for the one with guns.
Found the Nintendo Direct, but... I can't translate it. BP would know how to as far as I know here, and Hodou from AAO would as well, but he's probably asleep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghFEU4t_Pm8
Actually Shadow and Sonic dont really have the same move set. Shadow has Chaos power Sonic doesn't.
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Klonoahedgehog wrote:
A newcomer that actually looks fun to play as? Sold!
As opposed to the other eleven...?
Anthony wrote:
I thought Shulk was another god damn Fire Emblem character but I was wrong..... What SSB need is...... SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG!
Smash actually needs good playable characters, not an emo and overhyped expy of Sonic.
genodragon1 wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Shadow the Hedgehog is actually in the game as a summon.
Truly? Huh, didn't know that. Plus, you'd think Amy Rose, Big The Cat, Vector the Crocodile, Knuckles the Echidna, Espio the Chameleon, Charmy the Bee, Rouge the Bat, Omega something, Robotnik, or really most of the cast would provide a more unique move set.
Especially considering that Shadow and Sonic literally have the same move set in the games as far as I can tell, save for the one with guns.
Only issue with that is the fact that third party companies only get one playable representative in Smash, and I highly doubt Sega would ever substitute Sonic with one of his own supporting characters. The most we'll probably see of them is in trophies, or in Shadow's case an AT. Though it is possible that some of them might show up on Sonic's stage. Maybe Eggman can be a stage boss, like the Yellow Devil for Mega Man's stage.
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I might be going on assumption here, he was in the previous one and I swear I saw him appear in a trailer somewhere along the road.
Though his fighting style is slightly different from Sonic's in that he uses teleportation and energy attacks.
Though his fighting style is slightly different from Sonic's in that he uses teleportation and energy attacks.
He was seen a couple of times during the Smash tournament at E3. I think he might have been in a Miiverse post as well, but I couldn't find that. In any case, there's definitely footage of him in the game.
As for Shadow himself, his differences from Sonic vary from game to game. In some he can teleport or use special attacks at will, while others state he needs at least one chaos emerald to be able to do that. Sometimes he's just as fast as Sonic, sometimes almost as fast. It really depends on the game and plot in question, at any rate.
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And I wans't suggesting Sonic be replaced, I merely thought he'd be an alternate costume, much like grid Lil' Mac, Wii Fit Male Trainer, or the like.
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I have never played or even seen Xenoblade, so pardon my ignorance.
When I saw the whole "I can see the future" at the beginning there I was like "OK, how are they going to pull that shit off?" I looks more like a counter attack than anything, so that's clever, I think.
When I saw the whole "I can see the future" at the beginning there I was like "OK, how are they going to pull that shit off?" I looks more like a counter attack than anything, so that's clever, I think.
Yeah, part of me doesn't really like just taking Marth/Roy/Ike's counter and slapping it onto another character (like they did for Lucario), but Shulk's visions are a huge part of Xenoblade, and that seems like the only real way to pull it off.
I forgot to mention this earlier, but the Xenoblade music choices seem good too. I'd love it if they put in Engage the Enemy, but I'm not sure if it's really SSB-y.
I also couldn't 100% tell if the face at the end was Xord or Metal Face. But, given plot importance, probably Metal Face.
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Lord Doitsu wrote:
I have never played or even seen Xenoblade, so pardon my ignorance.
When I saw the whole "I can see the future" at the beginning there I was like "OK, how are they going to pull that shit off?" I looks more like a counter attack than anything, so that's clever, I think.
When I saw the whole "I can see the future" at the beginning there I was like "OK, how are they going to pull that shit off?" I looks more like a counter attack than anything, so that's clever, I think.
Yeah, part of me doesn't really like just taking Marth/Roy/Ike's counter and slapping it onto another character (like they did for Lucario), but Shulk's visions are a huge part of Xenoblade, and that seems like the only real way to pull it off.
I forgot to mention this earlier, but the Xenoblade music choices seem good too. I'd love it if they put in Engage the Enemy, but I'm not sure if it's really SSB-y.
I also couldn't 100% tell if the face at the end was Xord or Metal Face. But, given plot importance, probably Metal Face.
How could you forget that charming cockney accent? It's clearly Metal Face you slags.
Still I am actually fully ok for putting counters on more characters, so long as they are well justified. I think countering is a great tool for a character to have and I felt it gave the Fire Emblem crew a massive advantage over the others so giving them out a bit more would balance it provided it was justified.
Shulk seeing a vision of the future then countering the move? That's a GREAT way to do it.
Regarding Sonic and Shadow: Considering Shadow was artificially created with the means of using Chaos energy he can manipulate it better I generally assume minor distance teleportation and small energy blasts and waves are within his repertoire at BASE without any chaos emeralds.
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I played with Japanese audio~
Aww you missed out on all the charming English accents.
Might not be exactly my home tongue but it was quite refreshing to play a game without the vast majority being American.
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Pierre wrote:
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I played with Japanese audio~
Aww you missed out on all the charming English accents.
Might not be exactly my home tongue but it was quite refreshing to play a game without the vast majority being American.
I watched a walkthrough of Xenoblade, and I found the majority of the voice acting as well as the storyline to be very mediocre at best. Shulk being confirmed means little to me, but I'm happy for the countless people who wanted him in Super Smash Bros.
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I played with Japanese audio~
Aww you missed out on all the charming English accents.
Might not be exactly my home tongue but it was quite refreshing to play a game without the vast majority being American.
I watched a walkthrough of Xenoblade, and I found the majority of the voice acting as well as the storyline to be very mediocre at best. Shulk being confirmed means little to me, but I'm happy for the countless people who wanted him in Super Smash Bros.
Well I'm no voice acting critic so I don't especially judge people on the quality of their voices. I'll notice when something is downright god awful and doesn't suit a character but other than that I don't really care about the voice acting in a game.
Also the gameplay was by and large one of the best bits about Xenoblade for me.
I hope in the upcoming remake they make some simple inventory and quest management systems though, always felt it got horribly cluttered.
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Klonoahedgehog wrote:
A newcomer that actually looks fun to play as? Sold!
As opposed to the other eleven...?
Most of the newcomers don't interest me that much.
The only ones that do are Pacman, Villager, Wii fit trainer and Megaman.
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Bad Player wrote:
I kind of wonder if it will always be Riki+Dunban or not. If it isn't, then I could see it either be completely randomized, or one of three pairs (Riki+Dunban, and then probably Reyn+Sharla and Melia+Seven maybe?)
I doubt that last one. Considering we're referring to them as 'Seven' instead of the given name, it's safe to say their identity is super-spoilers.
I know they've had moderately spoileriffic stuff in Smash before, but that seems to be a bit too far.
Spoiler:
So maybe it'll just randomly cycle through the non-spoileriffic ones (like you might end up with a Dunban/Reyn combo one time or Riki/Melia, etc.)
Well? Are we going or what?
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Thane wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
I played with Japanese audio~
Aww you missed out on all the charming English accents.
Might not be exactly my home tongue but it was quite refreshing to play a game without the vast majority being American.
I watched a walkthrough of Xenoblade, and I found the majority of the voice acting as well as the storyline to be very mediocre at best. Shulk being confirmed means little to me, but I'm happy for the countless people who wanted him in Super Smash Bros.
Like Pierre alluded to, I definitely think Xenoblade would be a lot more fun to play than to watch. You also didn't mention the music~
Also, I liked Xenoblade's story. It wasn't a super-interesting intellectual story like something in Ace Attorney or Zero Escape, but it was pretty nice for a JRPG imo.
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I kind of wonder if it will always be Riki+Dunban or not. If it isn't, then I could see it either be completely randomized, or one of three pairs (Riki+Dunban, and then probably Reyn+Sharla and Melia+Seven maybe?)
I doubt that last one. Considering we're referring to them as 'Seven' instead of the given name, it's safe to say their identity is super-spoilers.
I know they've had moderately spoileriffic stuff in Smash before, but that seems to be a bit too far.
Spoiler:
So maybe it'll just randomly cycle through the non-spoileriffic ones (like you might end up with a Dunban/Reyn combo one time or Riki/Melia, etc.)
Yeah, I know Seven is really spoiler-ific, but... they still could do it. Still...
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Still hoping that they will add more characters through dlc like Phoenix and professor Layton
How exactly is Layton supposed to fight?
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Walter White wrote:
Still hoping that they will add more characters through dlc like Phoenix and professor Layton
How exactly is Layton supposed to fight?
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Still hoping that they will add more characters through dlc like Phoenix and professor Layton
How exactly is Layton supposed to fight?
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As Ash said, he's quite the accomplished fencer.
However Villager isn't exactly a combatant character, they make him/her fight well enough.
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However Villager isn't exactly a combatant character, they make him/her fight well enough.
Yeah but the villager has the excuse that in Animal Crossing you tend to have axes in the game.
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However Villager isn't exactly a combatant character, they make him/her fight well enough.
Yeah but the villager has the excuse that in Animal Crossing you tend to have axes in the game.
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Layton has swords *shrug* also that's only one tiny part of Villager's moveset, arguably not enough to base a whole combat style around and indeed from the looks of it they haven't based all of Villager's style around the fact they can use axes.
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Bad Player wrote:
There are plenty of characters that aren't from fighting games, that's no reason Layton couldn't be in SSB. (Although he's 3rd party, isn't he? I think he'd be a weird choice for the few 3rd party character slots that there are.)
He's kind of third party, i don't think he's owned by Nintendo in Japan but he is in other regions.
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