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genodragon1 wrote:
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wtf hinata
Spoiler: Dr 2 Ch 6 pre-trial
You shortsighted dipshit! How is the island trip being a simulation not the best possible outcome? Why would you feel despair over that? You said at least once how nice it'd be if it was all a dream, well, close enough! I mean, I'm sure it'd be a shock, but my next thought would be "oh god...If this was all fake, maybe all my friends aren't DEAD after all!"

Idiot.


They explain it.

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They do, but Monokuma pissing on everyone's parade after it's brought up doesn't change how Hinata should have initially reacted.

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>a character in DR is being an idiot
>surprised

???

Not surprised so much as having an AVGN moment. We're all entitled every once in a while.

Spoiler: ENDING
...Better than I expected, actually. For some reason I liked Junko more this time around, not much more was really explained in the overall plot, and the ending itself was ridiculous but what the hell, DR is ridiculous anyway so I'm fine with a mostly happy, Screw Destiny ending.

Called most of the revelations beforehand (Nanami and Usami's relation to Alter Ego, Junko having her own version of AE, the students being part of SHSD and one of them uploading the virus) but didn't get the connection to SHS Hope Guy until they came right out with it; changing Hinata's name to the founder of the academy's seemed like one of those things that was mysterious just for the sake of being mysterious.

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changing Hinata's name to the founder of the academy's seemed like one of those things that was mysterious just for the sake of being mysterious.


Yah, I'll be quiet honest, that is a plot twist I hate in general. I already hate the ones that get foreshadowed so heavily that it's not a plot twist or surprise anymore when it's "finally" revealed, but I also hate the ones that feel out of left field - like, right the fuck out of nowhere because goddammit, we needed another plot twist!

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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
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...Better than I expected, actually. For some reason I liked Junko more this time around, not much more was really explained in the overall plot, and the ending itself was ridiculous but what the hell, DR is ridiculous anyway so I'm fine with a mostly happy, Screw Destiny ending.

Called most of the revelations beforehand (Nanami and Usami's relation to Alter Ego, Junko having her own version of AE, the students being part of SHSD and one of them uploading the virus) but didn't get the connection to SHS Hope Guy until they came right out with it; changing Hinata's name to the founder of the academy's seemed like one of those things that was mysterious just for the sake of being mysterious.



Spoiler: ENDING
Well it makes sense that the overall plot wasn't full explained because we still have Danganronpa:Another Episode and also Danganronpa 3 which hopefully will finally explain the whole plot. I'm hoping they will come up with someone as awesome as Junko but better for the next mastermind/villain.

Hinata's name wasn't changed for being mysterious but because Hope's Peak Academy wanted to hide the existence of Hajime from the world as it was explained during the final class trial. He was experimented on in order to creat the ultimate genius that will become the ultimate hope for the world.
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CatMuto wrote:
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Spoiler: ENDING
changing Hinata's name to the founder of the academy's seemed like one of those things that was mysterious just for the sake of being mysterious.


Yah, I'll be quiet honest, that is a plot twist I hate in general. I already hate the ones that get foreshadowed so heavily that it's not a plot twist or surprise anymore when it's "finally" revealed, but I also hate the ones that feel out of left field - like, right the fuck out of nowhere because goddammit, we needed another plot twist!

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We DID need another plot twist, Junko got bored so she threw one in.

no I'm not trying to make "Junko got bored" into a meme


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Spoiler: ENDING
...Better than I expected, actually. For some reason I liked Junko more this time around, not much more was really explained in the overall plot, and the ending itself was ridiculous but what the hell, DR is ridiculous anyway so I'm fine with a mostly happy, Screw Destiny ending.

Called most of the revelations beforehand (Nanami and Usami's relation to Alter Ego, Junko having her own version of AE, the students being part of SHSD and one of them uploading the virus) but didn't get the connection to SHS Hope Guy until they came right out with it; changing Hinata's name to the founder of the academy's seemed like one of those things that was mysterious just for the sake of being mysterious.



Spoiler: ENDING
Well it makes sense that the overall plot wasn't full explained because we still have Danganronpa:Another Episode and also Danganronpa 3 which hopefully will finally explain the whole plot. I'm hoping they will come up with someone as awesome as Junko but better for the next mastermind/villain.

Hinata's name wasn't changed for being mysterious but because Hope's Peak Academy wanted to hide the existence of Hajime from the world as it was explained during the final class trial. He was experimented on in order to creat the ultimate genius that will become the ultimate hope for the world.

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I'm not going to go into the whole "leaving gaping plot holes open" thing again since I've already mentioned my view on that a couple times but I will say SDR2 is better about it than the first game was.

And that makes no sense. If the Academy wanted to keep no-talent nobody Hinata's existence a secret, why the hell would they name him for the founder of the most prestigious school on the planet? They'd have been better off sticking with his own name.

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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
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Spoiler: ENDING
Well it makes sense that the overall plot wasn't full explained because we still have Danganronpa:Another Episode and also Danganronpa 3 which hopefully will finally explain the whole plot. I'm hoping they will come up with someone as awesome as Junko but better for the next mastermind/villain.

Hinata's name wasn't changed for being mysterious but because Hope's Peak Academy wanted to hide the existence of Hajime from the world as it was explained during the final class trial. He was experimented on in order to creat the ultimate genius that will become the ultimate hope for the world.

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I'm not going to go into the whole "leaving gaping plot holes open" thing again since I've already mentioned my view on that a couple times but I will say SDR2 is better about it than the first game was.

And that makes no sense. If the Academy wanted to keep no-talent nobody Hinata's existence a secret, why the hell would they name him for the founder of the most prestigious school on the planet? They'd have been better off sticking with his own name.



Spoiler: ENDING
Thats true it was better at it than DR but also DR left a lot of plot holes for the same reason which was to make way for the next game. All games do that anyways which is why we have trilogies.

He originally had no talent, entering Hope's Peak Academy as a reserve course student, but he eventually earned the title of Ultimate Hope after participating in Project Izuru Kamukura which was a brain alteration/augmentation program named after the school's founder designed to “create a genius out of the ordinary” in which his original memories were erased. During that time, he was known as Izuru Kamukura.
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Well, I'm glad you liked the ending, Franzise! And yeah, I felt this game was better overall. I should get back to playing it. I've still yet to read DRIF.
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I thought DR was intended to be a standalone game.
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Bad Player wrote:
I thought DR was intended to be a standalone game.


Well, the stinger at the end would imply otherwise. And that was in the original version, wasn't it? But even so, many things were supposed to be standalone games. That's the way these things go. Consumer demand is strong.
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Bad Player wrote:
I thought DR was intended to be a standalone game.


It was. I think Spike did wanted to groom it into one of their series IPs like Kenka Banchou and such if possible, but given that it was a new sort of game for them, based on a completely new idea, it was not developed with the assumption they were going to create more.

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That's why it didn't really matter what went on in the outside world and whether Monokuma had lied to them or not (and why it wasn't told in detail to the player. The theme of the game was hope, and it ended with the question whether the characters, and the player, could have hope in the outside world no matter what came. For the sequel, they could also have gone a completely different direction

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Bad Player wrote:
I thought DR was intended to be a standalone game.


I agree with geno, the Stinger implies otherwise - but that's about as much as a sequel indicator as any given Jump-Scare Ending in every horror movie. You know, the eyes opening, the hand twitching, etc. I kinda wish it had remained a standalone game. Sure I would've been pissed since it answered nothing about what the reason behind the lockdown was (ie. what was going on outside and why it happened) but... yeah I have no way of ending that sentence. Positively.

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Well, 999 has a 'stinger' ending, and that was intended to be a standalone game.

I'm just gonna take Ash's word on this one.
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Bad Player wrote:
Well, 999 has a 'stinger' ending, and that was intended to be a standalone game.

I'm just gonna take Ash's word on this one.


Of course. I mean, I'm not saying that everything with a stinger automatically means it will get a sequel or was intended to get one. Just that Stingers are used everywhere and so often, it just doesn't (or shouldn't) mean anything anymore.

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Thats true it was better at it than DR but also DR left a lot of plot holes for the same reason which was to make way for the next game. All games do that anyways which is why we have trilogies.

He originally had no talent, entering Hope's Peak Academy as a reserve course student, but he eventually earned the title of Ultimate Hope after participating in Project Izuru Kamukura which was a brain alteration/augmentation program named after the school's founder designed to “create a genius out of the ordinary” in which his original memories were erased. During that time, he was known as Izuru Kamukura.

Ace Attorney doesn't do that. Neither did 999, really.

Spoiler: DR1 end
I think my biggest issue with the way things wrapped up (or didn't really) in the first game is that at the beginning of the final chapter, Monokuma flat-out tells you "Okay, you need to figure out all the mysteries going on or you can't get out!" but then at the end of the game, you don't figure out shit and still get out. Every time you ask Junko for specifics on something, she blows your question off because it's "not important". If none of it was important, why were we supposed to solve it in the first place? :ron:


Spoiler: DR2 end
I'm...not really sure why you're explaining the Ultimate Hope project to me, I understood the project itself perfectly. My problem is the naming thing. They took a guy who nobody knew or cared about anyway, and in order to keep him "hidden", they essentially named him Albert Einstein.


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Well, I'm glad you liked the ending, Franzise! And yeah, I felt this game was better overall. I should get back to playing it. I've still yet to read DRIF.

I'm saving that for last, gotta finish that last stage in Monomi mode (which'll take forever since I insist on playing the Hard difficulty) and of course Island Mode.

Guess I need to go back and finish a trial without taking damage, too. I was going to do that on the last one, but fuck that final Hangman's Gambit forever. Different letters randomly spawn on top of each other and blow up before you even get a chance to focus, seems fair.

Spoiler: DR3 Ending
Ending to the next game actually won't answer anything except how Ichimaru and Hinata can go Super Saiya-jin when they're pumped up.

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I see DR:Another Episode will be answering about the characters past.

Spoiler: DR:Another episode
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I see DR:Another Episode will be answering about the characters past.

Spoiler: DR:Another episode
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Well if I was interested in these people's past, maybe... then again, I hope there will be no DR3. Another Episode, fine, already making it. But considering that DR2 already felt like a rehash of DR (only island instead of school), I don't want a third game that feels like it's ripping off its rip-off that was ripping off the first game.

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Well it will answer people's questions about their pasts. Well DR3 has already been announced that it will be coming out but the writers don't know yet how they want the story to progress from DR2.

If a mod says anything about it then i'll take it down.
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Walter White wrote:
If a mod says anything about it then i'll take it down.


I wasn't sure myself, hence I asked. Without context it of course looks like nothing, but for people who have played the first game, it might be, if they realize things.

I dunno, I don't know WHERE they can take DR's story anymore. The only way, maybe...

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Is if they show the world getting better and out of the dumb Despair shit. And that, I think, would only work if they set it several years, if not a decade or three, into the future where they show the work that has been done to make things a bit better, cause I would really hate it if they made "Game 3, 1 year after DR2, EVERYTHING IS A-OKAY NOW!" and then pull the stupid plug on it and have the Battle Royale begin all over.


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Spoiler: Sigs
The fact that it's a scene from the end of the game alone should classify it a spoiler.


ahahahaha oh wow there is a MASSIVE difficulty spike between School Mode and Island Mode

School Mode you could build everything on the first playthrough fairly easily with a bit of smart management

Island Mode you'd basically have to save-scum every day and hope you get lucky enough to get all the materials you need by the deadline
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Spoiler: Sigs
The fact that it's a scene from the end of the game alone should classify it a spoiler.


ahahahaha oh wow there is a MASSIVE difficulty spike between School Mode and Island Mode

School Mode you could build everything on the first playthrough fairly easily with a bit of smart management

Island Mode you'd basically have to save-scum every day and hope you get lucky enough to get all the materials you need by the deadline


Does Island Mode come with new game +?
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Spoiler: Sigs
The fact that it's a scene from the end of the game alone should classify it a spoiler.


ahahahaha oh wow there is a MASSIVE difficulty spike between School Mode and Island Mode

School Mode you could build everything on the first playthrough fairly easily with a bit of smart management

Island Mode you'd basically have to save-scum every day and hope you get lucky enough to get all the materials you need by the deadline

>hope
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Spoiler: Sigs
The fact that it's a scene from the end of the game alone should classify it a spoiler.


ahahahaha oh wow there is a MASSIVE difficulty spike between School Mode and Island Mode

School Mode you could build everything on the first playthrough fairly easily with a bit of smart management

Island Mode you'd basically have to save-scum every day and hope you get lucky enough to get all the materials you need by the deadline


Does Island Mode come with new game +?

Yes it does

Which is why I said fuck it with the projects halfway through and am now just scavenging for materials to make the collection and cleaning boost items

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I laughed harder than I thought I would. And then subsequently watched like two more vids. This guy is pretty good.
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I laughed harder than I thought I would. And then subsequently watched like two more vids. This guy is pretty good.


Yamada hates even the memory of Komaeda...

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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Spoiler: Sigs
The fact that it's a scene from the end of the game alone should classify it a spoiler.


ahahahaha oh wow there is a MASSIVE difficulty spike between School Mode and Island Mode

School Mode you could build everything on the first playthrough fairly easily with a bit of smart management

Island Mode you'd basically have to save-scum every day and hope you get lucky enough to get all the materials you need by the deadline



Luckly I learned now you can get it all done in one playthrough because of DR (meaning just the project parts). I already have my strategy set up for when I'm done with my second play through in English of the main story.
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Where's Mukuro? (And the Genocider Sho cosplayer would be much more impressive if that weren't a fake tongue)
And why do people repeatedly opt to cosplay as Junko, rather than, well, Mukuro-Junko? Don't they realize they're walking spoilers?

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I daresay it's because of the pink hair. :D That group cosplay pic is very awesome btw!
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Bad Player wrote:
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Where's Mukuro? (And the Genocider Sho cosplayer would be much more impressive if that weren't a fake tongue)
And why do people repeatedly opt to cosplay as Junko, rather than, well, Mukuro-Junko? Don't they realize they're walking spoilers?

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WHO CARES IF I SPOIL OTHERS I WANT MY COSPLAY


High five!
Honestly I think cosplayers can get away with "wearing" spoilers if they don't draw attention to them. Just, you know, don't mind the elephant in the room.. I've seen that sort of thing happen in events before. Those who can sense they're staring at a spoiler just won't dig into the details of the cosplay.

So sorry to interrupt the convo, I just wanted to gush because that cosplay pic's really good!
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CatMuto wrote:
Where's Mukuro? (And the Genocider Sho cosplayer would be much more impressive if that weren't a fake tongue)
And why do people repeatedly opt to cosplay as Junko, rather than, well, Mukuro-Junko? Don't they realize they're walking spoilers?

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I daresay it's because of the pink hair. :D That group cosplay pic is very awesome btw!


I'm confused, cause everywhere I go, Junko is generally referred to being a "strawberry blond" that has pink tips. Hence I'm always confused when someone opts for a full-pale-pink wig for her... maybe it's just my OCD, but it's a detail that isn't small and it's really bothersome.

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Speaking of cosplay, I'm Probally gonna dress up like Komaeda for Halloween and ask everyone for Hope instead of candy xD. I have his Jacket already so I'm missing the wig and shirt.
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Speaking of cosplay, I'm Probally gonna dress up like Komaeda for Halloween and ask everyone for Hope instead of candy xD. I have his Jacket already so I'm missing the wig and shirt.


Don't forget to put the fake red fingernails on your left hand~ :redd:

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I'll need to bandage my arm then too haha. Maybe I'll do a final dead room moment xD
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CatMuto wrote:
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CatMuto wrote:
Where's Mukuro? (And the Genocider Sho cosplayer would be much more impressive if that weren't a fake tongue)
And why do people repeatedly opt to cosplay as Junko, rather than, well, Mukuro-Junko? Don't they realize they're walking spoilers?

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I daresay it's because of the pink hair. :D That group cosplay pic is very awesome btw!


I'm confused, cause everywhere I go, Junko is generally referred to being a "strawberry blond" that has pink tips. Hence I'm always confused when someone opts for a full-pale-pink wig for her... maybe it's just my OCD, but it's a detail that isn't small and it's really bothersome.

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I'm not even seeing the pink tips, in the game or anime. Looks full-on blonde to me.
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...her hair is pink ._.
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To me, looked more blondish in the anime and the game sprites have darker tips.

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The "what color is Edgeworth's suit" argument has returned with a vengeance- and it wears a new face. It's "what is Junko's hair color?"
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There need not even be an argument. Her hair is clearly pink.
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There need not even be an argument. Her hair is clearly pink.


Spoiler: DR
her hair looks more blonde to me and also that pic is Mukuro not Junko
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her hair looks more blonde to me and also that pic is Mukuro not Junko

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Yeah, that does look more blonde.
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What the hell Mukuro, you can't even get the hair color right?

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Her hair is clearly green.
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her hair looks more blonde to me and also that pic is Mukuro not Junko

Spoiler: ...Oh
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Yeah, that does look more blonde.
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...wait
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What the hell Mukuro, you can't even get the hair color right?


Hey, it's absolutely Junko's fault for getting the hair color wrong. She was the one who made it and all.

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Yeah. Junko should've known that her hair is actually violet.
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