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Then he turned to Simon. "The remote was found in the Arcade, correct? I don't know of anyone else being on the second floor before I ran upstairs at the discovery announcement. When would she drop the remote off their?"


"I dunno man," Simon replies, "When would anyone have dropped the remote off there? You're literally the only person who had plentiful opportunity to drop it off. That's a problem we've had from the beginning, unless you wanna accuse yourself of the murder to solve it."
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"Tch.." Raymond looks down, in thought.
"Did everyone else run up in a group? Maybe they split up and dropped it off then. Or maybe this secret passage has more to it.."
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"Tch.." Raymond looks down, in thought.
"Did everyone else run up in a group? Maybe they split up and dropped it off then. Or maybe this secret passage has more to it.."


"I don't really remember, but it's possible..." Simon replies, "As for the secret passage, the arcade is in the general area of the storage room and the teacher's lounge... but we have no reason to assume that there's another exit there. Maybe Monokuma can answer that?"
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"Secret passageway is stairway that directly connects the 4th floor teacher's lounge and the 1st floor store room. Nothing else."
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"Anyhow." Monokuma clears his throat. "How about another discussion topic? How was Cain lured and killed at the fourth floor?"
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"Well, we've known how he was killed there for awhile," Simon remarks, "But as for how he was lured there... I don't have a flippin' clue."
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"Well he was lured by the scream box, right? I don't see any other way."
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"I think he means 'lured up the secret passageway,' which the scream box couldn't do," Simon replied. "I doubt it would carry down four floors, and it would've had to have been used twice to get him to the headmaster's office as well, which it wasn't."

"By the way..." Simon asks, turning to Veronica. "Didn't you say you heard voices speaking earlier? What was that all about?"
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"Ah, best I resolve this. Lest not another gunshot situation."

Monokuma pulls out a chart.

"Sound waves. If someone shoots Monomi on floor 4, someone on floor 3 will hear unless they are standing in one of the RCs. Someone on floor 2 however won't. Too much floor in the way. And same with floor 1. If you got rid of the floor however, you would hear. Like how Cain could hear Azurine's gunshots from the beach but not Colin from the cell. The sound traveled to Cain through the open window. But all the walls and floors prevented it from reaching Colin."
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"I think he means 'lured up the secret passageway,' which the scream box couldn't do," Simon replied. "I doubt it would carry down four floors, and it would've had to have been used twice to get him to the headmaster's office as well, which it wasn't."

"By the way..." Simon asks, turning to Veronica. "Didn't you say you heard voices speaking earlier? What was that all about?"

"I-I knew that! I was just making sure you guys knew. T-That's all..." Veronica said, defensively.

"The voices? I thought I imagined them or something. But it sounded like it was two different people talking. Maybe I didn't imagine it after all..."
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"Did the killer play some noise through the passage? Was that how Cain heard while in the storage room?"
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"I think he means 'lured up the secret passageway,' which the scream box couldn't do," Simon replied. "I doubt it would carry down four floors, and it would've had to have been used twice to get him to the headmaster's office as well, which it wasn't."

"By the way..." Simon asks, turning to Veronica. "Didn't you say you heard voices speaking earlier? What was that all about?"

"I-I knew that! I was just making sure you guys knew. T-That's all..." Veronica said, defensively.

"The voices? I thought I imagined them or something. But it sounded like it was two different people talking. Maybe I didn't imagine it after all..."

"Durham and Traynor?
The camera was playing.
Was the volume on?"

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"Durham and Traynor?
The camera was playing, yes?
Was the volume on?"


"I think you're right," Simon says. "Maybe the camera was left at the bottom of the hidden staircase, so Cain could hear it from the storage room. So, he found it and went up the stairs. Then, once he got to the top floor, the scream box was used. At some point, the camera was carried up the stairs, which accounts for the weird voices Veronica heard."
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"There's no need to have it at the bottom. Cain heard it through the passage, since there were no floors in the way."
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"Would Cain still have heard it through the closed door? I guess it doesn't really matter that much, it's the same thing either way."
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"With what Monokuma said, I think so. And it's important. It means no one would have to move it."
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"It would indeed be possible if someone left at least one of the doors open a crack. You'd need a superb sense of hearing regardless."
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"Since you've been so generous lately Monokuma, wanna tell us who's voices I heard?"
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"Well, that doesn't really help us at all," Simon says. "That still leaves a bunch of questions. How did the killer know Cain had reached the top floor? How did they even know he'd go to the storage room? And how did they know I would leave my camera unattended?"

Simon scoffs and remarks, "Maybe Bud did it with his future sight abilities..."
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"Tch... Worth a shot..." Veronica grumbles.
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"It would indeed be possible if someone left at least one of the doors open a crack. You'd need a superb sense of hearing regardless."

"Which Fitzgerald had.
Still, what kept the door ajar?
The box after all?"

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"It don't think it needed to be ajar, thanks to Cain's hearing," Simon replies. "Besides, I doubt the killer could have moved the box from the door to the headmaster's office without him seeing."
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Ohishi blinked.

"...Without who seeing?
For one, Fitzgerald was blind.
Could he have moved it?"

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"Without Fitzgerald hearing, whatever." Simon responds.

"Like I said earlier, the scratches on the box were only on the top side, so that was probably just from the knives. Besides, if the killer was goofing around on the top floor, it would have taken them forever to get the remote for the scream box down to the arcade. At that point, it would have been easier to just drop it in the passage."

"Speaking of which, was anything left in the passage, Monokuma? That's the only place we never checked."
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"Just a tasty doorstop by the top stair."
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"That's that, then. The doorstop held it open for Cain to hear from the storage. ....which begs the question. Who was it that had Cain go in the storage?"
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"Need you even ask?
Hayabusa guided him.
He'd know the timing."

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"So, who pushed the doorstop back into the secret passage?" Simon asks.
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"It was likely Cain when he climbed out. I don't think that's really relevant anyways."

Raymond then turns to Yuma. "Start talking. Now."
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"You were the one that sent Cain to the storage, so don't go throwing around suspicion when you could have predicted the time too." Yuma replied to Ohishi.
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"Hold on. You lead him there after all. There was no way for Ohishi to know when he'd even arrive. Someone who went there with him, on the other hand.."
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"Not just that," said Maribelle, "but if the scream box wasn't used as a doorstop, then what was it used for? And how'd it get them scratches on it? If it was used to lure Cain up, then how is it that Veronica couldn't hear it too, given that the door on the fourth floor was held open?"
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"The scratches came from the knife trap. Veronica couldn't here it because she was slacking off in the Doppelganger RC instead of keeping watch.."
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"If I was the killer, why would I say I guided him there in the first place? And you were the one who assigned me the first floor, so it's not like I intentionally waited for Cain."
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"The scratches came from the knife trap. Veronica couldn't here it because she was slacking off in the Doppelganger RC instead of keeping watch.."

"How many times do I have to tell you I was still paying attention?! And I heard it too! Whether it was Cain's scream or from that stupid box, I heard it coming from the fourth floor. That's what caused me to head up there!"
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Raymond sighs. "Alright. Fine. Who else could know exactly when Cain would enter the secret passage?"
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"Based on all of Yuma's testimony, it's clear Cain entered the storage room alone." Damien said. "So I do not think it likely someone was at the scene to guide him up the passage."
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"Upupu, time's running out. How about this discussion point? How and when was the scream box activated?"
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"The more I think about it..." Maribelle started. "... the more I think that the scream box could only've been activated remotely. As Yuma says, really only Yuma and Veronica were available to get to the scream box without anyone noticin'. It can't be Veronica herself, 'cause that'd make her the killer and she can't have triggered the body discovery announcement. I also don't think it could've been Yuma, 'cause I think I'd've seen him leave the Storage Room afterwards, as Ohishi 'n' I were rushin' inside."

"That means that the killer had to have activated it usin' the remote, I reckon." Maribelle summarized.

"But that only begs the question: if the killer used the remote to trigger the commotion, 'n Cain's death, then how'd it get from the killer's hands to the Arcade on the second floor? The only time I can think of is while we were all investigatin', after we found Cain. Which really means that the killer could only be Damien, if'n I'm right about that."
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