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So, what IS Edgeworth's "deep, dark secret"? (minor spoiler
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This was originally posted in the gay thread, so I'm sure you can imagine MY stance, but I'm curious if anyone else has any ideas.
: Well, Iris?
: ...Mr. Edgeworth. Is it just possible that maybe... ...you yourself have a deep, dark secret in your heart?
: ...! [flash, swordstrike, music stops] Why do you say that...!?: As they say, it takes one to know one.: (How could she have known about that...? Is she peering into my soul!?)...It's true that there is a deep-seated darkness in my heart.
However, the only way I can get rid of it is to fully uncover the truth!
: You mean... the truth behind my secret?
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If before I'd assume it was a direct reference to his belief/fear that he's killed his own father.
If after ... it's kind of open to a lot of interpretation, isn't it? Heh.
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Other than he's gumming for Phoenix's cock.
fuck
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KingMobUK wrote:
I haven't played that case yet so I'm not sure where it is in the timeline. Is it before or after 1:4?
If before I'd assume it was a direct reference to his belief/fear that he's killed his own father.
If after ... it's kind of open to a lot of interpretation, isn't it? Heh.
If before I'd assume it was a direct reference to his belief/fear that he's killed his own father.
If after ... it's kind of open to a lot of interpretation, isn't it? Heh.
Faaaar after. In 3-5.
And, in context, the reason he wants to find out Iris's secret is because he thinks it'll help ease Phoenix's suffering, so I can't quite spin it around in my head that he's referring to DL-6.
So, this comes at the part where you're supposed to present Phoenix's profile. It's paralleling Iris and Edgeworth. Edgeworth is connecting his "deep dark secret" to Phoenix's happiness.
Clearly...EDGEWORTH HAS AN EVIL TWIN.
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If it's after Turnabout: Goodbyes then I don't think we've been told that Edgeworth has any other specific potential secrets, have we?
So basically it's either that he's hot for defence lawyers with spiky hair, or that he's secretly a Goth with an iPod full of Sisters of Mercy tracks.
Certainly his nightmares about having killed his father *were* a secret prior to 1:4 even if the DL6 crime wasn't but it can'be that if that's already happened.
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He loves little girls, they make him feel so bad.
When they're around, they make him feel like he's the only guy in town
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A lot of the stuff you have to actually dig for--presenting certain items, ect--but the picture that emerges is really...yeah.
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I suppose that conceivably it nught be an over-egged reference to the fact that he's in a permanent state of angst over his earlier career and the motivations that he had back then (Gant mentioned it in 1:5) and that consequently he has tried to overcome his compulsion to send the crims down at all costs by teaming up with Phoenix to ensure the truth is uncovered, rather than just a conviction assured.
But I suspect that's all a bit deep and I'm somewhat reaching ...
... nah, he's hot for defence lawyers with spiky hair. Sometimes the obvious answers are the best!
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He has a crush on Larry but can't bring himself to tell Phoenix!
Heh!
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KingMobUK wrote:
I'm just not sure why he would consider any feelings he has for Phoenix would be "deep and dark secrets". It's a bit too late to pretend it's secret, dude!
Oh, you know Edgeworth, or should I say "Mr. Martyr". It's interesting to note that originally, in the Japanese, Iris said nothing about his scret being dark, only that it was "very deep within [his] heart", and she also says "I'm the same...that's how I know". Edgeworth is the one that's all "craaaawling iiiin my skiiiin" about it.
KingMobUK wrote:
I suppose that conceivably it nught be an over-egged reference to the fact that he's in a permanent state of angst over his earlier career and the motivations that he had back then (Gant mentioned it in 1:5) and that consequently he has tried to overcome his compulsion to send the crims down at all costs by teaming up with Phoenix to ensure the truth is uncovered, rather than just a conviction assured.
What I keep coming back to is the fact that it's tied into Iris's secret. That "deep dark secret" that's hurting Phoenix.
Edgeworth pushes for P/I pretty damn hard in this game, but he's also hilariously bitter about it at points. (The most obvious is when he huffs at Phoenix for not spilling his guts about her, and makes him do some digging on his own, but there's also this little gem--which is very hidden at a point where Edgeworth basically only reacts to two bits of evidence you have at your disposal, both of them obscure...the rest get a stock response.)
(spoiler-cut, since this is still a relatively minor spoiler, but if you're trying to remain mostly spoiler-free...)
Spoiler: 3-5, Edgeworth being a bitch
: Yes, and it really works! It helped my fever go down quicker. I'm sure of it.
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KingMobUK wrote:
I'll have to come back to this when I know what Iris' secret is for sure I guess. But if it's what I think it is, then it could in all honesty just be a reference to the fact that Edgeworth thinks of himself as a jekyll and hyde character, being, as you say, Martyr of All Trades.
Well, I'll wait until you find out exactly what Iris's "deep, dark secret" is, but I don't think that's quite it when you think about what she's actually saying...
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Who knows, he could just be jealous. He might not even be able to keep it from showing in his facial expression.
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axl99 wrote:
It sounds like Iris is teasing Miles LOL.
Who knows, he could just be jealous. He might not even be able to keep it from showing in his facial expression.
Who knows, he could just be jealous. He might not even be able to keep it from showing in his facial expression.
It's definitely not teasing.
This is the sprite they used when she says it:
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Spoiler:
Spoiler: 3-5
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axl99 wrote:
It sounds like Iris is teasing Miles LOL.
Who knows, he could just be jealous. He might not even be able to keep it from showing in his facial expression.
Who knows, he could just be jealous. He might not even be able to keep it from showing in his facial expression.
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I thought maybe it was a roundabout "lol, i see ur secret is that ur a dumbass, dumbass", too, but that doesn't really make sense for a few reasons--one, it's sort of OOC for Iris, and two, Edgeworth's huge reaction--his other responses to getting jabbed about getting Psyche-Lock evidences wrong don't even compare--three, Edgeworth acknowledges that he does have a secret--that can only be fixed through Iris's secret.
Spoiler:
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Spoiler: aghhhh~ @_@
Don't we all wish we could just present a magatama and try to pick at Edgey's psyche locks? Everybody's got something to hide, who knows if the secret is important enough to blow the universe sky-high.
My brain is fried.
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DarzieP wrote:
Other than he's gumming for Phoenix's cock.
Question answered, lock topic.
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Maybe they just wanted to give the Fangirls more prof.
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Spoiler: 3-5, obviously
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Spoiler: 3-5
... or maybe not, who knows?
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Re: So, what IS Edgeworth's "deep, dark secret"? (minor spoiler
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Aijiru wrote:
Spoiler: 3-5
But Edgeworth's fear of earthquakes has nothing to do with Iris's secret. Again, Iris compares the two of them, she "knows" because she's "the same". Edgeworth further ties their "secrets" together by saying his won't be resolved until hers is.
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musouka wrote:
Aijiru wrote:
Spoiler: 3-5
But Edgeworth's fear of earthquakes has nothing to do with Iris's secret. Again, Iris compares the two of them, she "knows" because she's "the same". Edgeworth further ties their "secrets" together by saying his won't be resolved until hers is.
Hadn't thought of it that way. You're right... I guess I'll have to play that case until the end before I can find the meaning of that.
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KingMobUK wrote:
So basically it's either that he's hot for defence lawyers with spiky hair, or that he's secretly a Goth with an iPod full of Sisters of Mercy tracks.
Or both.
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