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Croik wrote:
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Didn't it, though? Makoto herself did not know what the evidence was going to be used for when she made it, and it was her dad who took responsibility for it in court. But she does eventually admit to the forgery in the present.


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Ahh, that explains it. All the summaries I'd been reading left out that her dad was the one taking credit for the forgeries prior to case 4-4.

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DarzieP wrote:
Spoiler: Psyche Locks 4-4 Spoilers
While the Feys aren't in GS4, Phoenix still has the Magatama. He use the Magatama when you control him in Case 4.



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I forgot, does Odoroki ever use the Magatama?
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VGK wrote:
DarzieP wrote:
Spoiler: Psyche Locks 4-4 Spoilers
While the Feys aren't in GS4, Phoenix still has the Magatama. He use the Magatama when you control him in Case 4.



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I forgot, does Odoroki ever use the Magatama?

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No.
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Question regarding Phoenix:
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Obviously i dont want the whole game spolied, but i want to know if its true that Phoenix knowingly used false evidence, which led to him losing his badge.
After playing through GS1, 2 and 3 i have this image of Phoenix in my head which refuses to accept that he would do this, especially after how annoyed he get about it when the prosecution did it. If he was unaware of the evidence being false then thats fair enough.
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No, he lost his badge after he was tricked into presenting false evidence. He does, however knowingly pass on forged evidence to Apollo/Odoroki in case one.
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No, he lost his badge after he was tricked into presenting false evidence. He does, however knowingly pass on forged evidence to Apollo/Odoroki in case one.



Thanks for the answer. :phoenix:
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Spoiler: About Kawadzu
I noticed that a lot of witnesses who have spoiler animations turn out to be murderers. Did Kawadzu kill anybody?

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The Aspernator wrote:
Spoiler: About Kawadzu
I noticed that a lot of witnesses who have spoiler animations turn out to be murderers. Did Kawadzu kill anybody?


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No. And that's not the case for many of those with spoiler animations. EXCEPT MINUKI BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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Spoiler: About Kawadzu
I noticed that a lot of witnesses who have spoiler animations turn out to be murderers. Did Kawadzu kill anybody?


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No. And that's not the case for many of those with spoiler animations. EXCEPT MINUKI BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


Okay. That's a relief... Thank you.
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No, he lost his badge after he was tricked into presenting false evidence. He does, however knowingly pass on forged evidence to Apollo/Odoroki in case one.



Thanks for the answer. :phoenix:


Along the same lines:

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Just how involved was Trucy with that forged evidence (the original forged evidence)? I know she handed the item to Phoenix that led to his disbarment, but did she know it was forged or was someone just using her as an unwitting delivery girl?

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Just how involved was Trucy with that forged evidence (the original forged evidence)? I know she handed the item to Phoenix that led to his disbarment, but did she know it was forged or was someone just using her as an unwitting delivery girl?


Spoiler: 4-4
Trucy merely passed it on. She was told to by Kristoph. She didn't know it was forged.

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This shouldn't have to do with spoilers or anything, since it's not about the plotline, but I don't wanna gum up the forum with a topic that only needs a one-word answer XD

GS4 is releaced overseas, yes? I overheard somewhere that all the japan-made games have an English subtitle option. Is this true for GS4 (or any of them)?
Yeah, I know all the names would be different and the game non-localised, but I'm impatient and would get my grubby mits on a copy of it anyway XD
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There is currently no English translation of GS4 available anywhere. The only reason the Japanese DS versions of 1-3 have English is because they're remakes. GS4 does not have an English option.
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He's not mentioned at all.
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Spoiler:
Musouka was speculating that if Edgeworth HAD been in the game, it might have made a portion of the last case make more sense.

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^ How would that work?
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Agent Macbeth wrote:
^ How would that work?


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Phoenix was disbarred for forging evidence, yet was allowed to work on the jury system and present his mock up to the court. Having a friend in high places could have been a logical answer as to why he was allowed to do both these things.

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Q: How does Phoenix know Odoroki in the first place?

(I don't really care if the game is spoiled for me, I'm not very patient so I want to know already. Also, am I doing it right?)
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If you know something that's highly sensitive and could ruin the whole game for someone, then put it in a spoiler tag. Follow suit with answering a question. Tag it.

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Phoenix was Apollo's first client. Kristoph introduced Phoenix to Apollo on the day of his first trial.

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Actually...

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Phoenix knew "of" Apollo before they actually met. Kristoph had mentioned Apollo to him a few times, which is how Phoenix knew beforehand about Apollo's bracelet.

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Croik wrote:
Actually...

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Phoenix knew "of" Apollo before they actually met. Kristoph had mentioned Apollo to him a few times, which is how Phoenix knew beforehand about Apollo's bracelet.


I can see it now.

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DarzieP wrote:
Croik wrote:
Actually...

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Phoenix knew "of" Apollo before they actually met. Kristoph had mentioned Apollo to him a few times, which is how Phoenix knew beforehand about Apollo's bracelet.


I can see it now.

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I have one more question (please correct me if I am wrong about any of this):
Spoiler: Phoenix and Kristoph
In case 4-1, I believe Kristoph introduces Phoenix as a friend of his. However I have heard that this is not true, but Phoenix and Kristoph clearly knew each other beforehand. Does that mean they're sort of enemies?

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I have one more question (please correct me if I am wrong about any of this):
Spoiler: Phoenix and Kristoph
In case 4-1, I believe Kristoph introduces Phoenix as a friend of his. However I have heard that this is not true, but Phoenix and Kristoph clearly knew each other beforehand. Does that mean they're sort of enemies?


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They're more like enemies who have been pretending to be each other's friend for several years.

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Spoiler: 4-2 Question
During the first trial day, Apollo brings up the possibility of the a sword lying on the ground near the crime scene as the murder weapon. Didn't Takita leave his home brandishing a gun? Where did the sword come from?

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Agent Macbeth wrote:
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During the first trial day, Apollo brings up the possibility of the a sword lying on the ground near the crime scene as the murder weapon. Didn't Takita leave his home brandishing a gun? Where did the sword come from?


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The sword also belonged to Takita (it was a birthday gift, I believe :D). They don't say specifically when he grabbed it, but knowing Takita he might just carry it on him. Or, he went back for it after giving up the gun.

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DarzieP wrote:
Croik wrote:
Actually...

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Phoenix knew "of" Apollo before they actually met. Kristoph had mentioned Apollo to him a few times, which is how Phoenix knew beforehand about Apollo's bracelet.


I can see it now.

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I lol'd.
I see. So Kirihito just says that Apollo has a magical magic bracelet. I wonder if he's been telling that to many people? If he did, I swear someone would probably rob it by now. But then again, who needs a magically magic bracelet that's made of wood? Or is it leather? The real life on is leather. Or it's it's leather-like cloth. If it was wood I'd immediately take it off because once your hand gets big, then you'll need a saw to get it off. Or you can cut or hand off, take it off, and sew your hand back on.
Wait.
Another question: How the hell does Apollo get the bracelet in the first place? Is he born with it or something? (OMG CHOSEN BY GODZ)
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I don't think Kristoph told him that it was "magic."

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Apollo himself didn't know what the bracelet could do until Naruhodou explained it. Kristoph never realizes just what the bracelet can do, if I remember right.


How Apollo got the bracelet is a pretty big spoiler.

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It was a gift from his mother, who has one of her own.

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Heh, I have a few more questions

Croik wrote:
I don't think Kristoph told him that it was "magic."

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Apollo himself didn't know what the bracelet could do until Naruhodou explained it. Kristoph never realizes just what the bracelet can do, if I remember right.


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How does Nick know about it, though?


These have to do with Trucy and Hobohodou:

Spoiler: Talent Agency
I get the impression that Trucy runs the agency while Nick goes off to pretend to play the piano. Which made me wonder: 1) is the agency really her business (and just in Papa's name); and 2) does she even go to school?


Spoiler: Missing Two Weeks
According to CR's timeline, there's an approximately two week gap between Phoenix losing his badge/Trucy's dad fleeing and Phoenix taking in Trucy. Where was she that entire time?


And finally:

Spoiler: Mad Magic Skillz?
Is Trucy actually good at magic, or does she just enjoy [attempting] it?

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Nick learned about the bracelet via Kagerou, just before 4-1. Or at least, that's according to the Mason System, which isn't entirely reliable when it comes to that specific scene. It's one of the instances where the "time travel" aspect of the System keeps it from making logical sense.

The "talent agency" isn't much of a business, since it's just the two of them. But Trucy does put on stage shows, which means someone has to be booking her. I think Phoenix let's her do a lot on her own, but maybe keeps an eye on her. According to one of the interviews, Trucy does in fact go to school.

The out-of-court portion of the Mason System takes place 2 weeks after the court case. It doesn't say where Trucy was before then.

Trucy doesn't do "real" magic, but she's very good with tricks. She does hold a successful show, and makes Apollo's lawyer badge disappear whenever he presents it to her XD;;.

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Croik wrote:
I don't think Kristoph told him that it was "magic."

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Apollo himself didn't know what the bracelet could do until Naruhodou explained it. Kristoph never realizes just what the bracelet can do, if I remember right.


How Apollo got the bracelet is a pretty big spoiler.

Spoiler:
It was a gift from his mother, who has one of her own.


oh. I was thinking in my head Kirihito Kristoph (must get used to english name) told Phoenix these lines "OMG BE CAREFULZ! ODOROKI GOTZ A MAGICAL BRACELET, HE MITE THROW SOME SPELLZ AT YOU IF YOU DON'T MASSAGE HIS FEET".

Err that leads to another question:
Spoiler: Sort of spoiler-ish question
Since Odoroki's bracelet is magically magical, and it lets him see people's "nervous habits", like a magantama. So will there be something similar to the psyche locks? Will there be anything involving the bracelet at all? Also, why the hell doesn't Phoenix use the damn Magantama in court when he's cross-examining? It would be a hell lot easier on Phoenix when he knows when they are lying. Err and this side question: Is the bracelet (of Odoroki's) wood? 'Cause wouldn't he have saw it it off when he gets buff, big hands like a REAL MAN OMG(ROFL). Like those gold bracelet thingys that some people wear, wouldn't the bracelet become small, or rather his hand become big like a REAL MAN OMG and it wouldn't fit so he would saw it off?

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Err that leads to another question:
Spoiler: Sort of spoiler-ish question
Since Odoroki's bracelet is magically magical, and it lets him see people's "nervous habits", like a magantama. So will there be something similar to the psyche locks? Will there be anything involving the bracelet at all? Also, why the hell doesn't Phoenix use the damn Magantama in court when he's cross-examining? It would be a hell lot easier on Phoenix when he knows when they are lying. Err and this side question: Is the bracelet (of Odoroki's) wood? 'Cause wouldn't he have saw it it off when he gets buff, big hands like a REAL MAN OMG(ROFL). Like those gold bracelet thingys that some people wear, wouldn't the bracelet become small, or rather his hand become big like a REAL MAN OMG and it wouldn't fit so he would saw it off?

Sorry for all these questions. :payne: (OMG I FINALLY START USING EMOTIONZ)


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Yes...the entire Minuku System uses the bracelet. It's not exactly like "psyche locks" but the end result is the same: when someone is lying, you "present" something that convinces them to tell the truth. Just that in the Minuku System, you're pointing out their tells to them, instead of presenting evidence.

Phoenix doesn't use the magatama in court because...well, I assume it's just a gameplay issue.

The bracelet isn't wood. I remember reading somewhere that it grows and shrinks to fit the user, and that it tightens subtly against Odoroki's wrist when activated, which is how he knows it's working. But now I can't remember for the life of me where that was. Either the guide book, or an interview, or...hmm.... research time.

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Spoiler: Possibly spoiler-ish question
I saw this video under the impression that it was a retarded Phoenix Wrong sort of animation that had no bearing on the actual game, since I wanted to see some of Kyouya's animations. But then I saw the last few seconds of the video and did a double take.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4kXpAcS4V9Y& ... ed&search=

On a scale of 1 to 10, how spoiled am I, just by virtue of seeing that frame of animation?

1 being "Not at all. He uses that ALL the time."
5 being "It's not a big deal. Kind of like seeing Adrian Andrews's glasses breaking, or Lana Skye biting her thumb."
10 being "You really, really, REALLY fucking did not want to see that."
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Oh, geez, um....do you really want to know?

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You really fucking did not want to see that ahead of playing the game :acro:

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I have a question that I'm not sure is very spoilery but I'll tag it anyway.

Spoiler: Sprites
In the sprite gallery for AJ, sprites of Klavier, Apollo, and Trucy can be seen, all with their heads lifted and facing towards the player. When does this happen in the game?

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Croik wrote:
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Err that leads to another question:
Spoiler: Sort of spoiler-ish question
Since Odoroki's bracelet is magically magical, and it lets him see people's "nervous habits", like a magantama. So will there be something similar to the psyche locks? Will there be anything involving the bracelet at all? Also, why the hell doesn't Phoenix use the damn Magantama in court when he's cross-examining? It would be a hell lot easier on Phoenix when he knows when they are lying. Err and this side question: Is the bracelet (of Odoroki's) wood? 'Cause wouldn't he have saw it it off when he gets buff, big hands like a REAL MAN OMG(ROFL). Like those gold bracelet thingys that some people wear, wouldn't the bracelet become small, or rather his hand become big like a REAL MAN OMG and it wouldn't fit so he would saw it off?

Sorry for all these questions. :payne: (OMG I FINALLY START USING EMOTIONZ)


Spoiler:
Yes...the entire Minuku System uses the bracelet. It's not exactly like "psyche locks" but the end result is the same: when someone is lying, you "present" something that convinces them to tell the truth. Just that in the Minuku System, you're pointing out their tells to them, instead of presenting evidence.

Phoenix doesn't use the magatama in court because...well, I assume it's just a gameplay issue.

The bracelet isn't wood. I remember reading somewhere that it grows and shrinks to fit the user, and that it tightens subtly against Odoroki's wrist when activated, which is how he knows it's working. But now I can't remember for the life of me where that was. Either the guide book, or an interview, or...hmm.... research time.


Spoiler: What.The.Hell.
Grows and shirnks to fit the user? Umm what the hell..ok. There's seriously a guide book to this?... Also, unless there is another definition of the word tell, I don't get this sentence: Just that in the Minuku System, you're pointing out their tells to them, instead of presenting evidence. You're pointing out their tells?.. I'm assuming maybe lie? Or hiding-ness-like-ish?... Or secret? Or dumbness? Or stupidity?..Sorry I don't know a lot of words my vocabulary is small...

Also, do you present the bracelet to use it? Or does it beep or ring( omg that would be awesome if you could pick ringtones for the bracelet <(^O^)> ) or vibrate (LOL) or something?

Plus, if it isn't wood, what the hell is it? Sorry again for asking a bit too much.

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Agent Macbeth wrote:
I have a question that I'm not sure is very spoilery but I'll tag it anyway.

Spoiler: Sprites
In the sprite gallery for AJ, sprites of Klavier, Apollo, and Trucy can be seen, all with their heads lifted and facing towards the player. When does this happen in the game?


Everything in this thread should be tagged. That's a semi-important spoiler.

Spoiler:
It happens at the very end of 4-4.


Bracelet questions:

Spoiler:
I don't know what it's made out of. It's magic :P

A "tell" is a poker term referring to little nervous or excited gestures that give away what a person is thinking. The Minuku System lets you see nervous gestures (i.e. fidgeting).

There is a Bracelet icon at the top of the bottom screen (separate from the court record) that spins when you're able to use the Minuku System. It doesn't work on everyone.

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Croik wrote:
Oh, geez, um....do you really want to know?

Spoiler:
You really fucking did not want to see that ahead of playing the game :acro:


Of course I'd rather erase my memory Men in Black style, but I watched about 7/8 of the video and sent it to my best friend who's also a huge Ace Attorney fan, erroneously claiming it was spoiler-free. He saw the ending and I made up an elaborate story about how I asked Court Records about it and everyone claimed it was just really good fan art. He totally bought it. Yeah... here's to hoping he doesn't find this thread! I had to know, I felt so bad for sending that to him and spoiling it for both of us :sadshoe:
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