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The only things that really ARE selling are WiiFit, Sports, Play, and random collections of minigames.

I think, if I remember, Galaxy manged to sell decently for like, a month.
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Wii Play sucks so much balls. Little point. At all.
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Okay, this "only nintendo games sell" idea is bugging me. People aren't looking at the games and saying "this isn't ninendo! I'm not buying this!" The reason third party games don't sell as well is because Nintendo's games are better than alot of the 3rd party games that do come out.

I know that there are exceptions to what I just said, but based on wii alone, which third party games have managed to be better than Big N's headlining games?
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...... does Final Fantasy count? the early ones?
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Wrestlemania wrote:
...... does Final Fantasy count? the early ones?


Im refering more to what is currently on wii..

And to clear things up, wii play wasn't that good of a game on it's own. Everyone just bought it for the extra controller, the same way everyone bought that one game for the halo 3 demo
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gotta say that Nintendo is winnig the console war. that fact cannot be disputed. I like mine, and I play Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn on it. all the time. Wii does not suck. the so-called games do. thats a fact.
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Hey, Crackdown was cool, dammit!

And I found a pic of Mario standing over the destroyed bodies of Ratchet and Master Chief, in a wrestling ring, holding a Wii mote... but it's in a newspaper.
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gotta say that Nintendo is winnig the console war. that fact cannot be disputed.

Well, statistically, yes, because Nintendo is aiming for a larger market. But the other consoles are more popular with gamers. (Well, at least I think so. :oops: )

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Wii does not suck. the so-called games do. thats a fact.

Woohoo! Finally a peace minded person in this topic! :will: (Now if only he capitalized his sentences.....)
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gotta say that Nintendo is winnig the console war. that fact cannot be disputed. I like mine, and I play Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn on it. all the time. Wii does not suck. the so-called games do. thats a fact.

I agree. It's not the system, it's what get's put in it.
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True enough... And some people say that the games are what make the system???

*Plays Mario Galaxy, then Chicken Shoot*

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EXACTLY! ZVARRI!~ we have reached the conclusion. easy as that. BTW, I didn't say that ALL the games were bad.
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Wii does not suck. the so-called games do. thats a fact.


Sorry, that's not quite right. High sales is not factual evidence that a system is good.

There's also many people who would argue that many of the Wii's games have suffered from being on the Wii, and would have played much better on other systems.
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So what? people argue alll the time about games. thats not very conclusive evidence,. either.
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What IS conclusive then?

Gamespot? IGN? Some of the games they rate get great scores, and others get crap ones, and both deserve the OPPOSITE reviews!

I'm sure as hell not gonna check my Nintendo Power or Playstation Magazine for any ratings for their games! Of COURSE they'll rate their "cash cows" high!

X-Play? Reviews on the Run? COME ON!!! X-Play has almost an ungodly large amount of criticism towards some of their ratings, and RotR, while SOMETIMES could have good ideas, can at other times have horribly-put together reviews, with no real answer! (7/10, and... 2.5?)

So I ask again: WHAT... IS... CONCLUSIVE?

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why, you'er own tastes and deductions, of course. it depends on what you like, as to if the game's any good.
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I will NOT rent every single game in order to determine the perfect ones. I need some "News Sauce" for that, ese! We need a source to help most of us with choosing a good game, because lets face it: We can't buy two 50 dollar games with 70 bucks...
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I do my own detective work, everything from checking the game's site to looking for people who have already gotten the game. And I have to agree that reviews in mags aren't always the best.
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-____- wrote:

Sorry, that's not quite right. High sales is not factual evidence that a system is good.

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He never said that. Read more carefully, he said that wii is winning the console war, but, not that it is good because of it. he said it is good because of FE:RD.

Yeah, just because a console sells well doesn't mean it's good, but he never said that. I personally loved the dreamcast, but that sold like shit. Sales figures only show popularity in the market, rather than which is better.

Although out of context, your statement was correct
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Personally, I am tired of publishers and developers trying to make a quick buck by releasing ports of PS2 games or rubbish movie tie-in games on the Wii. Unfortunately, people keep buying these type of games by the truck-load, so the developers aren't going to take risks by creating a game based on an original concept.

The other thing that also annoys me is when Wii owners have to make do with games such as RE: Umbrella Chronicles and Soul Calibur: Legends, while PS3 and X-Box 360 owners get to play RE5 and Soul Calibur 4. :zenitora:

I could also make a comment about the seemingly endless and needless amount of Mario Party sequels/World War II-based games that get churned out, but it won't be good for my blood pressure.
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Alright, the MP sequels will stop when they run out of game ideas, so... never.

And for War games? I never play them. Ever. But as X-Play says, "We've been fighting World War II for over a DECADE!"
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I've been having a laugh on the Wii. Don't own one but my little brother does.

I've been pissing around on the Internet Channel, posting those random little Mii people and so on. Even had a go at Splatterhouse off the Shopping Channel. Don't know much about these new consoles, but I must admit that it can be a lot of fun. Maybe I'm behind on the times.

One funny thing I've noticed is how when someone's losing a game in online play they'll turn their console off. Bit mental that. The remote control thing is a bit mad too.

Can't get my head around this new technology, like. I'm content with my PS2 and Gamecube frankly.
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O_O

BAKI-KUN?!

I haven't seen you in... a while.
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-____- wrote:
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BAKI-KUN?!

I haven't seen you in... a while.

I know, I mean it's been a while. The last time I spoke with him was his bithday back in November.

Well, he seems to have a good point.
To the other people that have a Wii, when did you get yours?
Do you think that you should have got yours at a later time?
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To the other people that have a Wii, when did you get yours?

About a year ago. I was lucky.
I walked to the Game Stop across the street from where I worked during my lunch break every day just to get away from work and I walked in right after a shipment came in. One of my co-workers wanted one to. She went over an hour after me and as she walked in the last one got sold. (The person was literally handing over the money as she walked in.)
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I got mine pretty early, but I forget the exact date. However, I think i still have a receipt...

And it was better to get early, if I recall, you got "benefits" that are unavailable now, back then, concerning a couple things.

I think that Internet Channel if free to all who bought it early, for one, I could've SWORN I saw that somewhere...
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Yup! If you downloaded the beta you got to keep it for free. Now it costs 500 points. I made sure I didn't miss out on it. Back before we had WiFi I loaded a TV and my Wii into our van and went to a nearby microtel to use their WiFi. :-P
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Nice, ese! lol.

I just RECENTLY deleted my "Metroid Prime 3 Preview" channel, because it wasn't able to be used anymore.
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I purchased my Wii via online on January 13, 2006. I received it on January 17, 2006. Glad I got it early, after I heard they would start charging for the Internet Channel.


Speaking of the Wii, does anyone else enter or judge the Mii contests?
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Speaking of the Wii, does anyone else enter or judge the Mii contests?

I don't really get much of a chance to right now. My sister does though. I did make 9th level once with one that I made .
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gotta say that Nintendo is winnig the console war. that fact cannot be disputed. I like mine, and I play Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn on it. all the time. Wii does not suck. the so-called games do. thats a fact.

I LOVE FIRE EMBLEM AND I CAN'T WAIT FOR RADIANT DAWN TO COME IN THE UK!!!! :zennybw: :scratch:
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I enter and judge them a lot, actually... The "Fortune Teller" judging, for me, took, like, 30 minutes because so many were just... they didn't look the parts.

It's hard to look mysterious with their current "forms" that they have...
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I think the current consoles go..

Xbox360 > Wii > PS3

(I know wii and xbox are close, but the ps3 is utter crap)

DS > PSP (The PSP is still good, but the DS is just dominating)

I agree that the Wii is a great console, but it has pretty bad or not enough good games. The 360 has a staggering amount of amazing games while the PS3 has multi-console games and Lair.
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Personally, I'm a little disappointed with the channels that the wii has been getting. So far the US got everybody votes, and look at mii, which are both little 'games', where as japan got the DS demo channel.

Why wasn't the demo channel released elsewhere?
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Yeah the everybody votes channel sucks, it only has two options per poll..
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AgostonF wrote:
I think the current consoles go..

Xbox360 > Wii > PS3

(I know wii and xbox are close, but the ps3 is utter crap)

DS > PSP (The PSP is still good, but the DS is just dominating)

I agree that the Wii is a great console, but it has pretty bad or not enough good games. The 360 has a staggering amount of amazing games while the PS3 has multi-console games and Lair.



The PS3 has a much stronger line-up than the Wii, actually.
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We're getting the demo Channel soon enough (wish we'd get some of the VC games in the other markets though).


I wish the Voting channel had more relevance (like deciding what VC games to release or the next channel, etc.), or they'd let you have your own polls, or let you search for other people's polls...it sucks they gotta approve the questions before posting them.
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The PS3 has a much stronger line-up than the Wii, actually.

*snort*

Anyway, yeah, sure, the Wii is Nintendo's attempt at capturing that non-hardcore market. And so what? There are still "hardcore" games for it (Brawl, No More Heroes, Trauma Center, Metroid Prime, Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, etc., etc.). Sure there are games like Wii Sports, Play and Fitness. So? those games are fun.

You're a tool if you think that the Wii doesn't have worthwhile games on it.

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You're a tool if you think that the Wii doesn't have worthwhile games on it.


That's not what people said, though. The "non"-games, Wii Fit etc., seem to be selling far, far better than all the "worthwhile" games. That makes third-party developers afraid of publishing something on the Wii, as they should - if it's too complicated, they just don't sell.
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That's not what people said, though. The "non"-games, Wii Fit etc., seem to be selling far, far better than all the "worthwhile" games. That makes third-party developers afraid of publishing something on the Wii, as they should - if it's too complicated, they just don't sell.

And people are bashing Nintendo and the Wii itself for it. You have to support the "worthwhile" (although even those "non-games" are worthwhile) games if you want them to release more for the system. Just because the Wii is more mainstream doesn't mean there aren't going to be more traditional games for it, and if you want that to happen, you have to support those that are already on it.
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But the thing is, we, the "real" gamers are supporting the "real" games...I'm sure we've all bought the Mario Galaxies, Prime 3s, Resident Evils of the Wii. It's just that the non-gamers and games are far more in numbers than us, and are eating up the non-games more than the "real" games. The Wii's success is a paradoxical, catch-22, double-edged sword phenomenon. On the one hand, it's appealed to people who would otherwise not play a video game in their life, on the other, it's a Nintendo system, so of course it'll appeal to gamers. So on the one hand, there'll always be the "hardcore" games from both first/second/third parties, but on the other, since the immense popularity and simplicity of the Wii compared to the other consoles, third parties, and some first/second party developers would rather cater to that group regardless, since it'd be easier to market as well cater to.
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