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When you go to the ringmasters room and you examine the photo's close to the top of the room, you'll get this quote:
We should put up pictures of all the clients who have been found Not Guilty.
What about the clients who were found Guilty? Umm... We'll just pretend like they don't exist. How's that? ... Nick! Now you've got me thinking about losing cases! Why'd you do that?And just for those who read this topic eventhough I warned them...
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Maybe they don't have to pretend and just forget because they have nothing to remember?
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Meaning some of his clients have already been found guilty, thus he lost some cases... These cases couldn't have been against Franziska, cause she still wants to win(for the first time) in 2-3
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He mentions he hadn't lost a case for 7 years in GS4, remember.
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He mentions he hadn't lost a case for 7 years in GS4, remember.
So what? The event of Maya saying this, happened in 2-3. If we count back for 7 years from GS4, we see that it starts after 3-5
after all...
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's comment was that they should put up the pictures. If they decide to do this they will put up pictures of clients after recieving the not guilty verdict. then says what about the clients who were found guilty, foolishly foolish fool that he is, already assuming he will lose cases in the future. Hence the contradiction, since the storyline implies he has a perfect win record.However, if they were talking about the idea of putting up pictures after the verdict was declared...
Then the clients would have already been found guilty when they will be putting the pictures up after a guilty verdict
In this context, the contradicition disappears
Unfortunately, I'm not sure if that came across clear enough
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Besides, if he did lose a trial, this is what happened:
: Court is now in session for the trial of Lou Sar.
: The prosecution's hair is ready. : It seems the defense is not here... I must immediately jump to the conclusion that he is not ready! Therefore, I find the defendant guilty!
: What about my right to a trial? : Do I look like I care?*
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: It doesn't matter. My hair has won! See ya later, loser. : Huh? What about me?
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I explained it really badly, I know. The point is, he didn't lose. He's just asking what Maya would do IF he ever lost.
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That would be 2-4, and he won all else.
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What about the clients who were found Guilty? Umm... We'll just pretend like they don't exist. How's that? ... Nick! Now you've got me thinking about losing cases! Why'd you do that?Not that good at the grammar of English but Phoenix clearly says: "Who were found Guilty" which means it's in the past...
Srry, if I don't understand the grammer good enough
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What about the clients who were found Guilty? Umm... We'll just pretend like they don't exist. How's that? ... Nick! Now you've got me thinking about losing cases! Why'd you do that?Not that good at the grammar of English but Phoenix clearly says: "Who were found Guilty" which means it's in the past...
Srry, if I don't understand the grammer good enough
However, he is giving an analogy; an example.
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He mentions he hadn't lost a case for 7 years in GS4, remember.
So what? The event of Maya saying this, happened in 2-3. If we count back for 7 years from GS4, we see that it starts after 3-5
The seven years that Payne refers to, is the seven years before his defeat by Mia in 3-1.
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What about the clients who were found Guilty? Umm... We'll just pretend like they don't exist. How's that? ... Nick! Now you've got me thinking about losing cases! Why'd you do that?Not that good at the grammar of English but Phoenix clearly says: "Who were found Guilty" which means it's in the past...
Srry, if I don't understand the grammer good enough
"Who will have been found" would be more correct, however, in this case, future assumes present because they are taking hypothetically about the future. This often happens with story telling and examples. Listen to someone tell a story. They will say things like "So I go in and he's sitting there...", which is clearly present tense but intended past. Its common enough, so Phoenix isn't really making a mistake.
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