Re: Case Maker 3
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How you know that PWLib is better as CM3? You guys tested CM3? No, so doesnt talk about this.
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Re: Case Maker 3
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killer0018 wrote:
Guys, shut up now.
How you know that PWLib is better as CM3? You guys tested CM3? No, so doesnt talk about this.
How you know that PWLib is better as CM3? You guys tested CM3? No, so doesnt talk about this.
CM3 is editor-based and more or less limited to the PW engine. PWLib you can do whatever the hell you want, there's virtually no limitation on it.
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I'd say
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Oh, in case you're wondering, this is not mindless fanboyism ( i remain neutral in these matters) , so far MechaBowser has shown little of Cs3 but i'm willing to give him the benifit of doubt, why can't you?
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Oh, and I never even MENTIONED PCWorld. What the heck is in your head buddy?
I'm gone for so long, and the colors got all psychedelic! Woohoo!
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As for why I can't give Mecha the benefit of the doubt: CM2.1.
On the wiki, it's meant to be informative and neutral, so I've allowed the article there and only mentioned the existance of disbeleif and arguments, not tried to pass them off as truth. But on a forum, no such requirement exists, and I'm free to state what I think. And that is, that this doesn't exist.
And the above post I made is completely true - it's based on fact(unless what has been stated by Mecha is false), not assumptions.
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But I really hope CM3 will be better than CM2.1, because there
were some major flaws (for me at least) which I'm not sure
if they're because of the program or my computer, but...
It was really bothersome. For one, it didn't read the frame
delay on my sprites, so my characters were always blinking
like crazy. xD
Another things was that I couldn't -edit- things in the action list
through the interface, instead I had to make new ones to replace.
Also that you had to build the game to test it, but that may
be because it always took so long for me. xD
But despite not doing the job it's still a great project!
Of course, I'm talking about 2.1, and I recall you saying somewhere
here that you were starting from scratch so it'll be pwnage.
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Jesus christ guys.
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Lee Ji Hoon wrote:
In other words, never.
Harsh
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YOU (KSA & Lee) killed his topic.
I'm sorry things turned out this way Mecha. I look forward to CM3's release/rebirth.
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I'm sure that it wasn't me and Lee who killed this topic. Lack of CM3 was. If Mecha was really into it, he would counter the issues with screenshots and info (I would do so in the position he is in).
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Not that they're unfakeable, but they're a lot harder to doubt than screenshots.
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I always was quite puzzled about Mecha not releasing screenshots (sounds like he is scared of releasing them, or something). I'm sure that if Mecha has something to show, there's no excuse to not show it (imo).
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Good luck Mecha with CM3 and Mechaware.
Thanks Elriel for the sig!
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But Mecha probably has a reason for not showing any screenshots.
Even though that reason causes suspicion upon himself, and nobody
knows what it could possibly be, and it gives him a large disadvantage
in the war of the case creating software. Oh dear.
Well, I'm not going to pick any sides just yet. It's not like I have any
good ideas for making cases anyways. xD
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FlashPoint wrote:
Damn. This topic shouldn't have ended like this. All because of some silly, idiotic argument about whose case maker was the best.
Good luck Mecha with CM3 and Mechaware.
Good luck Mecha with CM3 and Mechaware.
It was nothing to do with which was the best - it was to do with which one actually exists and isn't just an attention seeking hoax now that many casemakers are being developed.
I don't claim any one case maker to be the best - I myself use PWLib, but I don't in any way see PyWright or Ace Attorney Online as being inferior(at least not beyond how they actually are - specifically, less flexibility, which is an essential tradeoff for them being easier to use - so no objections here) - but I don't see the point of a case maker that's incomplete and always will be(CM2.1) or doesn't even exist and never will(CM3).
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Also you just proved my theory: some people don't really read, they scan by. Instead of looking, sitting and thinking about one's comments, they automatically bash around (like it there is a "Shut up" key on the keyboard). <<- in my case for most (excluding the programming ones) of my posts.
If we think well, all came to this due to Mecha letting it be. Mecha was inefficient in the end, since he was away most of the time and didn't gave the users with constant information and such. That left the topic open for comments and such. Mecha is the issue for this topic failure. Think about it before starting to yell. Analize the topic's lifetime, and how it was. When the first "CM3 is not going to be out!" came about, Mecha should go and post something proving CM3's existence. He did it? No. That easily hurts credibility on something.
People: sit and think. Just because someone says something anti-Mecha or some bad stuff about Mecha, it doesn't mean that it is always an attack. Critique exists, so it is something you have to live with. If I left my topic to the world to control, it would turn into this quite easily. THAT people don't see. They see it here because it's "Mecha's Topic".
I was wrong about the way I explained the programming stuff (i did show an idea diferently from what I wanted, so I admit it was my mistake).
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KSA_Tech wrote:
People: sit and think. Just because someone says something anti-Mecha or some bad stuff about Mecha, it doesn't mean that it is always an attack. Critique exists, so it is something you have to live with.
You're doing it wrong. It's called Construtive Critism. What you're doing is shooting attacks.
Also I've mention like a million times that I'm on vacation and nowhere near my laptop by now.
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I got you there. The only person that said vacation since page 7 was bloodzero. If I saw it, I wasn't going to mention anything. You should have told you were on vacation earlier, and not claim it now.Psh, anyway, this won't take anywhere anyway...
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MechaBowser wrote:
GUYS, SERIOUSLY. I'm producing this at my own speed, my dedication to this isn't at full due to the fact that I'm working on other COMMERCIAL projects, not only that, but has just gone through graduation and I'm now visiting a friend for the rest summer in an entirely different country.
There, KSA_Tech. Now stop objecting to anything and everything I post. Also everyone should notice this aswell:
MechaBowser wrote:
But YES, there WILL be a Case Maker 3 release on the end of the summer, WHICH MEANS AROUND AUGUST.
Wait, guys. Seriously.
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At least I admit my own mistakes (like a honorable person).
But this proved one interesting little bit:
You can be around CR and give info to people.
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MechaBowser wrote:
KSA_Tech wrote:
Also I've mention like a million times that I'm on vacation and nowhere near my laptop by now.
If you're not near your laptop, HOW DO YOU POST?!?He's obviously using his friend's computer.
Then why can't he work on the project?The files are on his laptor, dimwit.
Oh. right. Good point.
Yeah, that was pretty stupid, Nick.Attempted comic relief aside, that's pretty soon! Can't wait to see it.
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But seriously, guys. YOU ARE PATHETIC. Could you possibly please AT LEAST stop pretending that your posts are anything other than attacks meant to prolong e-drama? Saying again and again and again and again and AGAIN and AGAIN that you think Mecha is a lying attention-grabber and CM3 doesn't exist accomplishes absolutely JACK SQUAT other than cause more drama, which you apparently crave as your lifeblood. Seriously, go watch a soap opera or something.
I hope this thread DOES get locked. I also hope CM3 DOES come out so that everyone that actually held back about being nasty assholes to Mecha can rub it in your face. GOD.
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Shinkinrui wrote:
I hope this thread DOES get locked. I also hope CM3 DOES come out so that everyone that actually held back about being nasty assholes to Mecha can rub it in your face. GOD.
If it will make you feel better. You can rub it in my face, I wouldn't care. If he releases this or not (or if it exists or not..) is his business. You just complained about E-Drama yet you're stating you can't wait for the release to begin the E-Drama. I think someones been hanging a bit too much around 
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But one thing is real: Mecha should stop lying to people with his "nice guy" face. He is totally different when you talk face to face (MSN to MSN to say). But in the end, I won't be able to come and make him go real. So it's no use anyway. Let people support someone like Mecha. They want to support it, what can I do?
What makes me wonder is WHY there are people who TRUST Mecha after all the proof that he left behind. It amazes me to the core, because I can't get a reason for that.
So, would you support a company that secretly sells drugs? (Npot mecha, just some example).
---------------
You know what? I was just noticing something very interesting. When those "fights" happen, people start crawling in this topic. Yeah, it seems this stuff gives audience, no matter if I'm correct or I'm wrong, if Mecha is good or evil, if it is about CM3, PWLib or PyWright...
It is just chapters of a talk where people see it as "oh, funny!". There is no serious eyes over this to understand the meaning of the points. All you people want is read, laugh and let things stay as is, possibly.
What is the meaning of respect and trust anyway? Does those things matter? Does be nice or bad change anything? Huh? It is sad to see that people comply with things that are wrong, and don't care a little bit.
At first, when I started pointing mecha's errors, no one gave eyes to the text itself. He was right, because no one wanted to see. So long to all things "logical". Huh...
It is sad to see how people just don't care. I feel sad to even look at it. I cared about all and any user, personally. Yeah, I got respect for that. Mecha was always missing, showing up on rare occasions, and he gets respected. so, all I was nice doesn't mean anything? All the help I gave is just... irrelevant? "To the hell with user respect!" is the way I should follow? It makes me sad, strongly sad at you people who still ignore Mecha's actions.
Great to see how people don't care about right or wrong. It is so amazing, so good to see. So shameful...
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the more we talk the more he has to read here and the more he can't work on CM3!!
so lets just stay calm and let the man work!
and otherwise i will have to shoot you
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Thanks ThommyTheKid.
No one in here takes my side and tries to understand it.
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i just want Mecha to Finish CM3 as fast as he can!
and you and all can just stop fighting about all of your problems!
ALL THE CASE MAKERS ARE GOOD!!!
now stop talking CRAP about eachothers casemakers!!!
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Anyway, I 'm not even in the mood to comment anything anymore.
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"The Argument ends here"The dominatrix has spoken
I think it will be released, just need to let mecha work on it over the summer.
Can't wait for it's release then I can work on my fan based project called
*Drum roll*
*The Gavin Files*
If anyone wants to help or know more information about it then pm me, dont ask here.
Sorry for going off topic
How lame
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@ksa_tech: I never quite know what to think of you, sir. On one hand, I tip my hat to you and your excellent work and support for people who use your casemaker.
On the other hand, your grandstanding and constant attacks(yes, they are attacks) on mecha are very tiresome and do more discredit to you than harm to mecha. I don't "support" mecha- I said in the last post and before that I have my doubts about him and CM3. I just don't see the point in beating this dead horse into the ground. You've said atleast 3 or 4 times in this thread that you were done and were going to just ignore this thread, but you keep coming back to join in gleefully in badmouthing mecha. I don't care if he's a jerk in msn to you or anyone else, he's stayed mostly out of your public thread while you and a few others trash his. Don't preach to me about what's right and wrong. If the comments about how people don't care about right and wrong weren't directed at me, then my appologies. If they were, then I hope you choke on your own words. You've done plenty of wrong yourself.
One last note to everyone else: sorry, I know I'm being hypocritical by posting more arguing. I couldn't resist one last post. I won't post anymore drama.
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1) sorry to everyone I might have said something I shouldn't, or on a way that was wrong.
2) I always had a strong sense of respect and honor, and I failed to stay silent where I needed to be. I took some minutes and decided to change my views towards all CR. The recent events let me to realize no matter your sense, no matter how wrong or correct you are, you can't explain your points, no matter how strong or solid they are. after all this arguing, thins stayed the same. Rarely a change, something different then what was back when it all began. For a second i thought into giving up due to the latest events, but it wouldn't be nice to those who supported me and my projects. 700 downloads isn't something to be ignored or just abandoned. From now on, you people won't hear a single bit of my opinion, even on MSN. I found out that explaining opinions do not change the world or the state things are. I would like to see if things were better, but nothing can be changed by proving the truth.
Best Regards, KSA_Tech
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MechaBowser I hope you continue your project. It's good for CR when you show up in print.
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