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Re: Phoenix Wright: Father To The Turnabout (help required)

Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:15 am

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As already offered, if I can get given the story etc put into a form of script layout , or a structured manner to follow, I can get it coded easily and fast.

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Re: Phoenix Wright: Father To The Turnabout (help required)

Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:38 pm

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Thanks to all the above for your support. I trust you have read the Case 1: Trial Former synopsis over? If so, I welcome you on board.

All of those who have offered themselves as scripters will have to wait a few days before their services are required, as I'll need to get the sprites together first. What I intend to do is get the entire Trial Former of Case 1 running so that we can see what to expect for the rest of the game, and then take it from there.

YoungWright, Seeing as you have opted to be a spriter, I have a job for you. :edgy:

If you've read over the synopsis, you should know that there is a detective featured in the game called Thomas Glovegum. Are you any good at using your imagination? If so, I would like you to design a male detective, from scratch. It should not be too similar to Detective Gumshoe, but it can have some similar features. If you can provide a few options for us to choose from, that would be fantastic.

If there are any other spriters out there, I'd love to have you on board as well, as that way we can have multiple choices on the same character.

Thanks again guys.

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Re: Phoenix Wright: Father To The Turnabout (help required)

Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:20 pm

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Ace Attorney wrote:

YoungWright, Seeing as you have opted to be a spriter, I have a job for you. :edgy:

If you've read over the synopsis, you should know that there is a detective featured in the game called Thomas Glovegum. Are you any good at using your imagination? If so, I would like you to design a male detective, from scratch. It should not be too similar to Detective Gumshoe, but it can have some similar features. If you can provide a few options for us to choose from, that would be fantastic.

Hefty or Skinny?
Big or Small?
Young or Old looking?
Smart or Scatterbrained?
IMPORTANT STUFFS!

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Re: Phoenix Wright: Father To The Turnabout (help required)

Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:19 pm

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YoungWright wrote:

Ace Attorney wrote:

YoungWright, Seeing as you have opted to be a spriter, I have a job for you. :edgy:

If you've read over the synopsis, you should know that there is a detective featured in the game called Thomas Glovegum. Are you any good at using your imagination? If so, I would like you to design a male detective, from scratch. It should not be too similar to Detective Gumshoe, but it can have some similar features. If you can provide a few options for us to choose from, that would be fantastic.

Hefty or Skinny?
Big or Small?
Young or Old looking?
Smart or Scatterbrained?
IMPORTANT STUFFS!

Hefty
Small
Middle-Aged
Scatterbrained

Also try to create a signature feature, like Detective Gumshoes trenchoat.

But don't make him too similar.

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Re: Phoenix Wright: Father To The Turnabout (help required)

Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:18 pm

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Here's the detective:

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Re: Phoenix Wright: Father To The Turnabout (help required)

Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:39 pm

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That's not put together great, but has some nice ideas.

He looks too old, methinks.

Re: Phoenix Wright: Father To The Turnabout (help required)

Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:40 pm

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True, true. Points for Machi hair, though.

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Re: Phoenix Wright: Father To The Turnabout (help required)

Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:48 pm

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Tried to make him look a little younger.

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Re: Phoenix Wright: Father To The Turnabout (help required)

Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:00 pm

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YoungWright wrote:

Tried to make him look a little younger.

I quite like him. Good job.

Can we perhaps try him without the squinty eyes?

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Re: Phoenix Wright: Father To The Turnabout (help required)

Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:07 pm

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Re: Phoenix Wright: Father To The Turnabout (help required)

Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:49 pm

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How are those sprites coming along?

I think I'll get some more spriters in so that we can have multiple choices. I'll put that in the thread title.

Also, the Trial Latter synopsis of Case 1 shall be up soon.

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Sprite help required*

Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:58 pm

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Hey. Thought i'd pop in, and offer to help sprite. I may try my own version of the detective, if you like, or if you have any other characters you need, I'll have a try. ^__^

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Sprite help required*

Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:21 pm

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Nadindi wrote:

Hey. Thought i'd pop in, and offer to help sprite. I may try my own version of the detective, if you like, or if you have any other characters you need, I'll have a try. ^__^

No, another version of the detective would be fantastic.

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Sprite help required*

Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:44 pm

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Great, I'll get on it now. =]

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Sprite help required*

Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:46 pm

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Nadindi wrote:

Great, I'll get on it now. =]

Fantastic.

Trial Latter portion of Case 1 will be up in a half hour.

Can I also ask, to all those helping with scripting, when I am writing the scripts, do you need me to include court room movements, character appearences and character expressions?

e.g. this:

*Enter Phoenix Wright*

Phoenix: Hello.

*Camera Moves to Courtroom Right.

*Enter Winston Payne*

Payne: Hello.

Or would this be ok:

Phoenix: Hello.

Payne: Hello.

I'm just wondering what you would require.

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Sprite help required*

Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:29 pm

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OKAY! Trial Latter Synopsis here:

Spoiler: If you do not wish to help with the creation of the game, but wish to play it at a later date, please do not read.

The Court reconvenes after the 10 minute recess. After a quick formality, the Prosecution calls their witness.

The witness is a man called James Watchin. He testifies that he saw the whole crime happen from outside the window of Steven and Susan’s house. He is the resident of the house next door, and was returning from getting a paper at the newsagents when he heard a shriek from inside the house. He ran up to the door but found it locked, so instead looked inside the window. From there he saw the murder take place, and he testifies to seeing Steven standing over Susan’s dead body from there.

During the Cross-Examination, the point is raised once again that there are no signs of struggle in the photo. James easily explains this as the murder was very quick, and therefore Susan had no time to struggle. By the time he had arrived at the window, Susan was already dead.

This statement is added to the testimony, but Marvin finds a contradiction. The Autopsy report clearly details the death as a slow one. The witness just testified to it being quick, and this is a clear contradiction of the facts. Therefore, the fact that there is a lack of a struggle is brought back into light once again.

At this point, the witness quickly offers a second testimony. In this one, he states that the murder actually happened in the Kitchen, which would explain the lack of struggle. The victim was strangled in the Kitchen, which connects directly to the front living room, and then was pulled through. For whatever reason, the witness is unsure.

There is a direct contradiction once again. Marvin requests a secondary photo of the crime scene, as photos are normally taken at multiple angles, and can confirm his suspicions. There is no outside window looking into the Kitchen, nor is there any way to see into it from the front room window. This must mean that either someone told the witness the murder happened there, or he was in the building at the time.

The prosecution cuts in, and suggests that perhaps the suspect himself should testify. The suspect is called to the stand, and testifies that he has no recollection of what happened. He remembered being in his apartment, and opening the door to someone. The next thing he knew, he was on the ground. He woke up later in hospital to the news his wife was dead. He testifies however, what the person who hit him looked like. It was almost defiantly the witness.

The defence is about to cross-examine when something goes horribly wrong. The sound of a gunshot tears through the air. The defendant, Steven Wright, is hit in the chest full force by a bullet. He is knocked backwards off his feet, and blood splatters the courtroom. Steven Wright is pronounced dead three hours later. The entire Wright family line, apart from one little boy, had been eradicated.

The case was never solved. The witness did not attempt to flee, but could not be found Guilty because of lack of decisive evidence. The shooter was never found. It is suspected that he fled through the roof of the courtroom, but no-one ever found him. Since then, Marvin has stayed a Prosecutor, along with Payne. They both agreed to never speak of this to Phoenix, who was only six months old at the time. He was taken into care, and for official reasons he believed they were his real parents, and still does today. It was never truly understood why someone would shoot Steven. It was mostly considered to be that he had just named a suspect, and that if the cross-examination had gone ahead then that suspect would have almost defiantly been found guilty.

The case was never solved. But perhaps it will be soon…

As you may have noticed, I tweaked the story a little. It now no longer takes place in 1987, but in 1992. Six months after Phoenix was born. This way I can accommodate the "Shock Horror" ending. And yes, that last line is a reference to the possible outcome of Case 4/5.

So, everyone like the idea?

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Sprite help required*

Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:36 pm

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Yea? Nay?

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Sprite help required*

Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:53 pm

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Nay on the hair at least, it reminds me of Gumshoe too much.

Not sure what I think about the rest.

Re: Father To The Turnabout *Sprite help required*

Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:34 pm

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Ace Attorney wrote:

Nadindi wrote:

Great, I'll get on it now. =]

Fantastic.

Trial Latter portion of Case 1 will be up in a half hour.

Can I also ask, to all those helping with scripting, when I am writing the scripts, do you need me to include court room movements, character appearences and character expressions?

e.g. this:

*Enter Phoenix Wright*

Phoenix: Hello.

*Camera Moves to Courtroom Right.

*Enter Winston Payne*

Payne: Hello.

Or would this be ok:

Phoenix: Hello.

Payne: Hello.

I'm just wondering what you would require.

The first is brilliant, it makes for easy translation to PWLib coding

*Defense Bench*
*Phoenix Wright normal*
*Fade in, slow*
Phoenix> The defense is ready, you're honor.
*Scroll to prosecutor*
Payne> The prosecution is also ready, You're Honor.

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Sprite help required*

Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:42 pm

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I like the sprite. Can we try different hair though?

@DDRKhat: I figured as much. Do you also need expressions?

e.g.:

*Defence Bench*
*Phoenix Wright*
Phoenix: Hello
*Phoenix Smile*

or can I leave that bit to you?

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Sprite help required*

Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:52 pm

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Ace Attorney wrote:

I like the sprite. Can we try different hair though?

@DDRKhat: I figured as much. Do you also need expressions?

e.g.:

*Defence Bench*
*Phoenix Wright*
Phoenix: Hello
*Phoenix Smile*

or can I leave that bit to you?

You can make it smile. you decide, normally a case maker would like control over how the character are expressed, but you're welcome to simply state "You do it" and hope that I will use the appropriate character animation. Not calling myself a retard but where You might think a "Phoenix Sweating" animation could be could, I might go for a "Phoenix Defeated" (His head in arms on desk)

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Sprite help required*

Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:12 pm

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Ace Attorney wrote:

I like the sprite. Can we try different hair though?

Sure thing. Will get on it soon.

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Sprite help required*

Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:35 pm

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Nadindi wrote:

Ace Attorney wrote:

I like the sprite. Can we try different hair though?

Sure thing. Will get on it soon.

Fantastic.

I think now that we have two spriters, and two scripters, I should consider getting some music done. I'll need remixers or song creators to create six themes for the first case:

Trial - Prologue
Trial - Court
Examination - Moderate
Examination - Allegro
Objection! theme
Cornered!

So I'll put that in the title, see what we can get.

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Remixers required*

Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:09 pm

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Better?

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Remixers required*

Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:15 pm

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Nadindi wrote:

Better?

Perfect. I think we have our detective.

Can we perhaps see a few different expressions of his?

So Smiling and Sad? Also, are you able to create animations of him talking? Or would we need to get someone else to do that?

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Remixers required*

Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:23 am

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Ace Attorney wrote:

Nadindi wrote:

[img]
Better?

Perfect. I think we have our detective.

I do hope that is just a proto-type and that you will be working on adding detail and such to that sprite? If not I dread that he is going to stick out too much from other characters because of it.

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Remixers required*

Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:28 pm

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Ace Attorney wrote:

Perfect. I think we have our detective.

Can we perhaps see a few different expressions of his?

So Smiling and Sad? Also, are you able to create animations of him talking? Or would we need to get someone else to do that?

Sure, I can do that. Will do, when I have time XD

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Remixers required*

Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:58 pm

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DDRKhat wrote:

Ace Attorney wrote:

Nadindi wrote:

[img]
Better?

Perfect. I think we have our detective.

I do hope that is just a proto-type and that you will be working on adding detail and such to that sprite? If not I dread that he is going to stick out too much from other characters because of it.

Yes, of course.

I will get someone at a later stage to freshen it up and make it game-quality. It was only the base model I was looking for now.

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Remixers required*

Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:09 pm

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Sure, that's fine. ^__^

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Remixers required*

Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:53 pm

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How are those expressions coming along?

If either of our spriters have any extra time, there is a job I need you to do. We need a Defence Lawyer version of Grossberg. This means we need all the expressions Phoenix has. Essentailly we just need a few expressions for him that would fit on the Court Room left.

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Remixers required*

Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:20 pm

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Still working on those expressions ^_^;;

As for grossberg, I think someone somewhere in the sprite forum has some poses, you could ask nicely for them if you find them. XD

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Remixers required*

Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:31 pm

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Nadindi wrote:

Still working on those expressions ^_^;;

As for grossberg, I think someone somewhere in the sprite forum has some poses, you could ask nicely for them if you find them. XD

Good idea. Thanks.

I shall go and take a look.

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Remixers required*

Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:58 pm

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Sorry yo say but I won't be able to make sprites for a little while because my computer exploded. I hope I can help asap.

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Remixers required*

Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:12 pm

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Are those sprites nearly ready?

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Remixers required*

Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:09 pm

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I have a Grossberg sprite ready:

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Remixers required*

Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:36 pm

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That had to have taken about ten seconds. You just flipped it, took off the badge and changed the eyes.

Also, look at him in position:

No offence, but it looks pretty awful.

Re: Father To The Turnabout *Remixers required*

Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:42 pm

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RandomJibberish wrote:

That had to have taken about ten seconds. You just flipped it, took off the badge and changed the eyes.

Also, look at him in position:

No offence, but it looks pretty awful.

Hmm... Any way you could rotate it to make it face the camera?

And we also need a "pointing finger" sprite. As well as many others.

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Re: Father To The Turnabout *Remixers required*

Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:45 pm

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Not without remaking the sprite...

It's also too big.

And I'm sorry If I came off a little mean in that post... It just seemed like a bit of a cop out...