"I just want to know one thing"

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Yeah, I'll post a mini-review in the impression thread too when I'm done. I'll take a bit longer than the others, what with having to wait for the game to actually come out before starting it, but I should be done by monday.

Spoiler: case names
>The Departed Turnabout

過ぎ去る actually means "pass", as in something went by and is now gone. As it refers to "days gone by" Passed Turnabout would be better.
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Spoiler:
How long are the cases? (I suppose relative to GS cases?)
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Bad Player wrote:
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How long are the cases? (I suppose relative to GS cases?)


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Some of them do not feel TOO long, but they are about the same. I would say the last case is among the longest in the series.
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Ryu-kun wrote:Yeah, I'll post a mini-review in the impression thread too when I'm done. I'll take a bit longer than the others, what with having to wait for the game to actually come out before starting it, but I should be done by monday.

Spoiler: case names
>The Departed Turnabout

過ぎ去る actually means "pass", as in something went by and is now gone. As it refers to "days gone by" Passed Turnabout would be better.


Spoiler: Case name
"Passed Turnabout" is a little wonky in English though. It sounds like something passed from one person to another, rather than "in the past." That's why I went with Departed - it was here but now it's gone. "Turnabout Into The Past" might work too...?
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Spoiler: case name
well, the gist is that the turnabout itself went by and is gone. I thought departed sounded odd because it refers to time and departed was only used for things like trains or stuff, but checking the definition of departed I see you can also say "departed days" etc. so I guess it's just fine.
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Spoiler:
After you clear a given case, will you unlock the case artwork, like in the original PW trilogy, or will the case selection screen just be the default background, like in 1-5 and AJ?
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Metal4good wrote:
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After you clear a given case, will you unlock the case artwork, like in the original PW trilogy, or will the case selection screen just be the default background, like in 1-5 and AJ?


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You unlock character artwork, but no artwork related to the case
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Is there an overarching plot?

Also, more specifically, is case 4 directly tied to case 5? (Just like T&T)
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Bad Player wrote:
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Is there an overarching plot?

Also, more specifically, is case 4 directly tied to case 5? (Just like T&T)


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Yes and yes. All the cases are related to each other.
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All right, I think those were my only questions... Thanks for answering them, Rain!
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I am SOOO going to get shot for this question XD

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Is there any dialogue stuff that fangirls could take out-of-context for any kind of EdgyXSomeone pairing? :gun: Lol, no specifics, just yes or no, maybe a tiny explanation, and what pairing. I know this question is completely open-ended, so I know it's very hard to answer.
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Croik in the shipping thread wrote:Ok so usually I'm not that interested in shipping Edgeworth with women, but seriously, Miles/Ichiru is where it's at.
Spoiler: GK2
I thought it was so cute that she faked getting the captain's permission because she felt guilty about wrongly accusing him. And after that he was so determined to defend her...! And then had to think for a long moment when she said "I could never be with someone who doesn't appreciate my design sensibilities!" So cute!

C'mon Edgeworth, Mile High Club. You know you waaaaaant tooooo.


That's been the only pairing that's even been mentioned since the game came out, so far talk has been suprisingly pairing-free.
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Spoiler: If a character is present.
Is classic (grey-suit, slightly balding) Winston Payne in the game in any way? I don't want to know how or where, or whether it's a big role or a small role, just simply if he's in the game.
I'd also like to be told "no" if he is in the game, but they "messed with" his "most generic looking person in the series" status yet again.
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@Andious:

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Yes.
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Spoiler: My reaction to the answer.
Thanks for the quick reply!
Figured I might as well Spoiler this response too seeing how my positive reaction does give away the answer.
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Caelestis wrote:I am SOOO going to get shot for this question XD

Spoiler:
Is there any dialogue stuff that fangirls could take out-of-context for any kind of EdgyXSomeone pairing? :gun: Lol, no specifics, just yes or no, maybe a tiny explanation, and what pairing. I know this question is completely open-ended, so I know it's very hard to answer.
I'm such a fangirl XD


On the subject of pairings~

Spoiler: Not horrible spoilers or anything
I'm still not 100% finished but the only pairing hints I've picked up on was a slight attraction between Edgeworth and Ichiru in case 2 (very open to interpretation), and maybe between Rou and Shiina (he's very protective of her, but he's protective of all his peers).

The relationships between Edgeworth/Gumshoe and Edgeworth/Franziska are pretty much the same as they have been portrayed in earlier games, so if you saw those as romantic before, you could probably read them the same now.

The Edgeworth/Kay dynamic is essentially similar to Phoenix/Maya and Apollo/Trucy dynamic, so if you like those pairings you might like Edge/Kay too.

As for the possibility of ships regardless of canon hints...Kenji has many *rubs hands together*
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Little one again... ^^;

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Do we find out anything about Franziska's older sister?
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Croik wrote:
Caelestis wrote:I am SOOO going to get shot for this question XD

Spoiler:
Is there any dialogue stuff that fangirls could take out-of-context for any kind of EdgyXSomeone pairing? :gun: Lol, no specifics, just yes or no, maybe a tiny explanation, and what pairing. I know this question is completely open-ended, so I know it's very hard to answer.
I'm such a fangirl XD


On the subject of pairings~

Spoiler: Not horrible spoilers or anything
I'm still not 100% finished but the only pairing hints I've picked up on was a slight attraction between Edgeworth and Ichiru in case 2 (very open to interpretation), and maybe between Rou and Shiina (he's very protective of her, but he's protective of all his peers).

The relationships between Edgeworth/Gumshoe and Edgeworth/Franziska are pretty much the same as they have been portrayed in earlier games, so if you saw those as romantic before, you could probably read them the same now.

The Edgeworth/Kay dynamic is essentially similar to Phoenix/Maya and Apollo/Trucy dynamic, so if you like those pairings you might like Edge/Kay too.

As for the possibility of ships regardless of canon hints...Kenji has many *rubs hands together*


Thanks Croik :edgy: That helps a lot.

Spoiler: Sorry, just affirming something
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Ichiru is the lady with the square bun yes.
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Spoiler: pairings
Himeko pretty much confesses she fell for Michan right in front of him.
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Is the victim of case 2 Machi's father?

(I've heard this theory, but I don't know if it's realistic or utterly ridiculous.)
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Case 2 victim = not Machi's father.

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In the earliest screens shots, we saw pictures of a crime scene in the alleyway outside of Phoenix's office. What case was this in, or was it used at all?
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The Sandwich wrote:In the earliest screens shots, we saw pictures of a crime scene in the alleyway outside of Phoenix's office. What case was this in, or was it used at all?


Spoiler:
It was never used. Neither was the dolphin, unfortunately. It must have been early test gameplay or something.
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Spoiler:
Is case three scary? this screenshot freaked me out. (No big spoilers, just want a yes/no T_T)
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Bad Player wrote:
Spoiler:
Is case three scary? this screenshot freaked me out. (No big spoilers, just want a yes/no T_T)


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That part scared me :beef: . The rest is not scary.
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Bad Player wrote:
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Is case three scary? this screenshot freaked me out. (No big spoilers, just want a yes/no T_T)


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Adrian in black wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
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Is case three scary? this screenshot freaked me out. (No big spoilers, just want a yes/no T_T)


...is it wrong that I laughed at that?


Oh wow I hadn't seen that yet!

And no Adrian it's not wrong... I snickered too (but I think I might have been laughing at how massive the cravat looks) :redd:
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This is pretty spoilery, but how many victims are there (male/female) and how many male and female killers are there? Please don't tell me who, just the numbers. Thanks!
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The Red Dahlia wrote:This is pretty spoilery, but how many victims are there (male/female) and how many male and female killers are there? Please don't tell me who, just the numbers. Thanks!


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7 victims. I think all are male. 5 killers. 3 are male, 2 are female.
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What is the killer's motive in case 2?
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Metalotaku wrote:What is the killer's motive in case 2?


Spoiler: case 2
She was part of a group dealing with illegal goods, and the victim was an interpol agent who was on to them. She killed him before he could suspect her.
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Croik wrote:
Metalotaku wrote:What is the killer's motive in case 2?


Spoiler: case 2
She was part of a group dealing with illegal goods, and the victim was an interpol agent who was on to them. She killed him before he could suspect her.


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Very similar to case 4-3 XD
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Rain Faraday wrote:
The Red Dahlia wrote:This is pretty spoilery, but how many victims are there (male/female) and how many male and female killers are there? Please don't tell me who, just the numbers. Thanks!


Spoiler:
7 victims. I think all are male. 5 killers. 3 are male, 2 are female.

Spoiler:
Awesome! There are two new people that will (probably) go on my favourite character list! SEVEN MALE VICTIMS? Wow, that's a lot. Hmmm, I'll discuss that in my new thread.
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Rain Faraday wrote:
The Red Dahlia wrote:This is pretty spoilery, but how many victims are there (male/female) and how many male and female killers are there? Please don't tell me who, just the numbers. Thanks!


Spoiler:
7 victims. I think all are male. 5 killers. 3 are male, 2 are female.


Spoiler:
Actually now that I think of it, there aren't a lot of female victims in the series are there? Cindy Stone, Mia Fey, Misty Fey...that's all I can think of. (Not sure if I need to tag this, so I will just in case.)


Croik wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
Spoiler:
Is case three scary? this screenshot freaked me out. (No big spoilers, just want a yes/no T_T)


Spoiler:
That part scared me :beef: . The rest is not scary.

Spoiler:
*cough* I actually screamed when I saw that... Of course now I think its kinda funny.
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Lind_L_Tailor wrote:Is the victim of case 2 Machi's father?

(I've heard this theory, but I don't know if it's realistic or utterly ridiculous.)


Has someone been looking at the Machi fanthread? :edgy:
But no, It hasn't been confirmed. But they do look similar......
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Just a few (probably spoilery) questions...

Spoiler:
I don't think it's been touched on yet, but who or what is Yatagarasu? It seems to be quite important in terms of the storyline.


Spoiler:
What are the motivations of the killers in cases 3, 4, and 5? I'm assuming the killer of case 1 killed the victim to cover up that he was creeping around, and the killer of case 2 has already been explained, I think.


I don't mind if just the answers are given, or any extra information is added. I usually like spoilers. 8D
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Apathy wrote:Just a few (probably spoilery) questions...

Spoiler:
I don't think it's been touched on yet, but who or what is Yatagarasu? It seems to be quite important in terms of the storyline.


Spoiler:
What are the motivations of the killers in cases 3, 4, and 5? I'm assuming the killer of case 1 killed the victim to cover up that he was creeping around, and the killer of case 2 has already been explained, I think.


I don't mind if just the answers are given, or any extra information is added. I usually like spoilers. 8D


Question 1
Spoiler: slight spoiler version
"Yatagarasu" is the name given to a famous thief that was really more of a vigilante who would steal incriminating evidence from powerful companies and deliver it to the police Batman style. In the game Kay refers to herself as Yatagarasu II. The name is taken from a mythological giant bird with 3 legs.


Spoiler: Case 5 really spoilerish version
Yatagarasu actually refers not to one thief, but three: one to learn the information, one to get it, and one to cover it up (Kazura, Kurou, and Badou). The group was split up 7 years pre-game when one of their members betrayed and murdered another.


Killer motivations!

Spoiler: Case 3
Hikaru, Himeko, and Ogura staged a fake kidnapping plot in order to get a lot of money out of Hikaru's dad. When Ogura turned against and tried to stop them, Hikaru killed him.


Spoiler: Case 4
Kazura killed Kurou under orders from her boss, the head of an international crime syndicate.


Spoiler: Case 5
Carnage and Manny had been working together in a counterfeiting scheme, but when Manny tried to betray Carnage, Carnage killed him and had Kazura cover it up.
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Thanks for answering- nice and informative.

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So, I guess even back when she was a part of Yatagarasu, Kazura was working for a crime syndicate? Also, I'm guessing Carnage getting Kazura to cover something up isn't really related to the stuff seven years ago...

Sorry for asking another question, but what did Yatagarasu have to cover up whenever they did their evidence finding/stealing? Just the fact that they'd done it?
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Apathy wrote:Thanks for answering- nice and informative.

Spoiler:
So, I guess even back when she was a part of Yatagarasu, Kazura was working for a crime syndicate? Also, I'm guessing Carnage getting Kazura to cover something up isn't really related to the stuff seven years ago...

Sorry for asking another question, but what did Yatagarasu have to cover up whenever they did their evidence finding/stealing? Just the fact that they'd done it?


Spoiler:
Yes, Kazura was always working for Carnage. They kind of hint that it was not something she really wanted to do (especially having to kill Kurou) but we don't learn much more about her backstory than that.

Yatagarasu was working outside the bounds of the law so they obviously couldn't just say it was them, and they needed people on the inside to accept the evidence and use it effectively. Because Kurou and Badou were heading the investigation into Yatagarasu they were in the perfect position not only to get what they needed, but cover up any evidence that it was in fact them, if one of them happened to slip up.
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