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Here is a good thread for the series.
My personal favorite is Tales Of Vesperia.
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Vesperia is by far my favorite. It had the best cast of characters IMO, and I adored its art-style.
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Afterwards I played Symphonia and it was my favorite Tales Of for a long time. I loved it. Yes the story was incredibly cliche, you could predict every single plot twist that was going to happen and even the characters are pretty cliche, but I still loved it. The dungeons, although some of the puzzles made me rage - fortunately I now remember all of them, despite not having played in months or years, and Kratos' line at the end made me cry.
Downside is, by now I have gotten to dislike some of the characters. I never liked Collet that much, her English voice made be DESPISE HER AND WANT TO BURN HER but I calmed down a little when I heard the Japanese Collet. At least Mizuki Nana made Collet sound cute. But as the years have gone on, I have relaxed about Collet, although I think she and Lloyd are giant hypocrites.
Spoiler: Spoilers for Collet and Lloyd I guess
The message being racism was sort of meh... Refill's line about how getting rid of racism could take years or decades is pretty silly. You can't get rid of racism. The only thing you can manage to do is for people to fucking keep their mouths shut about their racist views.
When I decided to play Tales of the Abyss later on, I did it because I heard people constantly say how awesome it is and wanted to see for myself. I played it and loved it. The story was kind of convoluted and shoved the word Fon too often into my face, although I knew that word technically didn't mean anything. The characters are awesome - except Tear, who I think is a Canon Sue. She has the super special Yulia Yue as an ancestor, is the sister of the antagonist, giving her an emotional connection to him next to Luke - Guy, too, but not very much... and she is the only one who can use the damn Hymns that are essential to finish the game.
Anyhow, I love the characters. Jade is a sarcastic jerk and being voiced by Takehito Koyasu just makes it more awesome. Anise is freaking ADORABLE! Guy is cool, Luke starts as a jerk, which I love, and you can really see how he changed over the course of the game. Oh and that scene with Asch towards the end always makes me cry.
But ever since Vesperia, I just kind of lost interest in Tales Of... Innocence and Hearts and all that, I never paid much attention to them. The R versions of those, I have even less interest of. Graces I only like because I have Cheria in Radiant Mythology 3 and she has a kick ass Hi Ougi.
I feel like Vesperia's battle system is absolutely BROKEN and makes the Overlimit way too freaking cheap. And I admit, I haven't played the game yet, but the story seems so silly - it's basically just an environmental message. And why does everybody seem to like Yuri?
He's nothing special! He's basically a badass that talks rough and that's it. Luke did that before him and it had a higher impact.The only cool thing I think that Vesperia did is Judith - and not because of her big boobs but because her fighting style looks freaking AWESOME!
Also played Destiny on the PSX for a while, but quickly gave up... and why does everybody love Leon? Again, he's nothing special. He's the anti-hero with a silly sympathetic backstory and bam. That's it. Granted, having Midorikawa Hikaru voice him is freaking sexy, but that's not enough to make a character.
Spoiler: Tales of Destiny - Obvious Spoiler
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I wanted to try my hand on Abyss but another game needed my money more. Vesperia seem chill enough but I don't know how to read japanese.
I invested in Graces f when I bought a PS3. It felt like I was playing a Symphonia 2.0. It felt like it was the same story going on about why friend are important and gotta save them all, etc. Plus the character where a bunch of cliché. Enjoyable, but not that memorable.
PS: Does Abyss on the 3DS worth it?
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I only played Symphonia and Graces. Since I started with Dawn of the new world, I didn't understand what was SOOOOO wrong with this game. I mean it wasn't the best RPG but it wasn't the worst. Then, I played the original one, and I can understand their hate. The first was cliché to death, but since it was well handled it pass. After all I can deal with cliché easily.
I wanted to try my hand on Abyss but another game needed my money more. Vesperia seem chill enough but I don't know how to read japanese.
I invested in Graces f when I bought a PS3. It felt like I was playing a Symphonia 2.0. It felt like it was the same story going on about why friend are important and gotta save them all, etc. Plus the character where a bunch of cliché. Enjoyable, but not that memorable.
PS: Does Abyss on the 3DS worth it?
I wanted to try my hand on Abyss but another game needed my money more. Vesperia seem chill enough but I don't know how to read japanese.
I invested in Graces f when I bought a PS3. It felt like I was playing a Symphonia 2.0. It felt like it was the same story going on about why friend are important and gotta save them all, etc. Plus the character where a bunch of cliché. Enjoyable, but not that memorable.
PS: Does Abyss on the 3DS worth it?
Well you can still get Vesperia on Xbox Games on Demand.
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PS: Does Abyss on the 3DS worth it?
Well... for American players it isn't all that different, since it is basically the localized PS2 version, only on a handheld meaning that you cannot do the World Map Glitch - which lets you keep someone in your party for longer than allowed or gain certain equipment earlier than you usually would - and no Multiplayer. Also some sidequest changes and such...
But since you never played Abyss before, I would definitely say the 3DS version is worth buying. It'll be new for you and I do not think the Tales Of series is a game series that can be played very well in multiplayer anyway... they are RPGs and any player other than the first one will just sit around, watching the game until a battle comes and they get to fight for a bit...
As for Knight of Ratatosk... yeah... I noticed that the people who only played Ratatosk like it a lot more than people who have played Symphonia first. There are people who like both, but I belong to the group of dislikers of Ratatosk. Symphonia never needed a sequel, it finished its story and any sequel should have focused on the journey of collecting Exspheres as Lloyd was going to, rather than this new kid we don't care about, this girl that is basically interchangable with any other hyperactive lovey-dovey girl and a cheap sarcastic version of Jade, just in a dog-ish form.
I wouldn't find it so bad if the game didn't feel like a rip off of a Tales game... it's missing so much that makes a Tales Of game a Tales Of game. And since they don't seem to be changing much of it in terms of the Unisonant Pack coming out, I doubt I would like it much more...
As for Vesperia, well if you have a 360, you can buy that. I know that, if I ever play Vesperia, it has to be the Japanese version. Ignoring Troy Baker voicing Yuri, I heard Judith's English voice and a cringed. What the fuck, why did you give her a high, girly voice? Goddammit, I know Hisakawa Aya voiced Sailor Mercury, but she gave Judith a husky, sultry voice that fit her flirtatious behavior and attitude. You can't have Judith say flirty things in a high voice, it's sounds like a little girl trying to sound like an adult woman and failing miserably.
Speaking of Vesperia's PS3 version... really, the Japanese voices would be the only reason why I would get it. If the 360 wasn't region-locked, I'd buy the 360 version. I don't care about that added in content of costumes, Patty and Flen.
Speaking of added in content, am I the only one who feels like Namco is trying too hard to make the newer Tales Of games appealing by shoving one Cameo costume after another into it? It started with Vesperia's PS3 version. Abyss costumes, Destiny costumes, Phantasia costumes, all over the place. And at least give them costumes that make sense - what makes them think Refill would look good in Pascal's outfit? Granted, I know nothing about Pascal, but her outfit looks crap on Refill. Give Refill Mint's outfit if you have to. It makes sense, they're both healers.
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This just in folks, a countdown clock for a new game in the Tales of series on Namco Bandai's Japanese site.
I'm personally excited for what they're going to announce, as long as it isn't something like "Tales of Xilia: Solo Remix".
Anyone else excited?
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http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/12/04/namco-bandai-teasing-the-next-tales-game-with-a-countdown.aspx
This just in folks, a countdown clock for a new game in the Tales of series on Namco Bandai's Japanese site.
I'm personally excited for what they're going to announce, as long as it isn't something like "Tales of Xilia: Solo Remix".
Anyone else excited?
This just in folks, a countdown clock for a new game in the Tales of series on Namco Bandai's Japanese site.
I'm personally excited for what they're going to announce, as long as it isn't something like "Tales of Xilia: Solo Remix".
Anyone else excited?
I saw that earlier, and I'm hoping it's going to be a main mothership title.
And if I remember correctly, Baba said that Tales would stay on the PS3 and they wouldn't transition to next gen for a bit.
I'm with you on the fact that I hope it isn't some Social/mobile game, and I'm pretty sure it's not going to be.
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Namco just announced a new Tales Of game, Tales Of Zestiria, announced for US and Europe release on the PS3 soon.
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Deadpool 9 wrote:
http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/12/12/tales-of-zestiria-announced-for-playstation-3
Namco just announced a new Tales Of game, Tales Of Zestiria, announced for US and Europe release on the PS3 soon.
Namco just announced a new Tales Of game, Tales Of Zestiria, announced for US and Europe release on the PS3 soon.
Looks pretty ambitious with the open world exploration and what seems like a real-time battle system.
Good thing I got a PS3 last Christmas.
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Spoiler: Late Game Spoilers
And here's the kicker: somebody said it involved sex and "how can you (as in, I) not see that"? What the.... what the FUCK does getting mad over somebody being criticized have to do with SEX!? How does that even equate to Love, in any fashion?
Look, I know love and sex can mix and a lot of people confuse sex for love. But those two are actually entirely different things! They can mix together and fulfill a physical and also emotional desire, but sex is stricly a physical thing and love emotional. How can anybody see sex in Abyss, when it comes to Anise defending Ion from being critizied?
I know I have a pretty dirty mind and the simplest sentence can seem like an innuendo to me.
But only when I can see that the potential for an innuendo is there.
Like Ace Attorney is chock-full of it! I mean, come on: Hard Evidence.
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sumguy28 wrote:
So, how long is it until Tales of the Abyss "gets better?" I'm ten hours into it (just saved Ion, woo), and so far, the gameplay has been fairly easy, the plot is pretty standard stuff, and I get the feeling that the game wants me to find Anise "endearing."
You're pretty much close to the end of the first Arc. You'll get to Deo Pass (which is where I find Luke to overstep the line of "Ok Jerk" to "Downright Unpleasant" the only time in the entire game, but I blame shit writing for that) and then things start happening when you get to Akzeruth.
So about... eh, another hour before you get to the first plot twists. Then things start to get a bit better.
Unless you like Jerk Luke. (I know I do but I also like him in the other parts in the game)
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Adore Symphonia and Vesperia, my childhood games right there.
Vesperia is childhood?
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But about the gameplay: while I like the fact that my allies have competent AI *cough*Persona3*cough*, sometimes it feels like I can just keep pressing X and occasionally O to win. The only time I felt like I needed to do something was when fighting Legretta.
Also,
Spoiler:
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Spoiler: Tales of the Abyss
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sumguy28 wrote:
I need to write this down before I continue any further into the game.
Spoiler: Tales of the Abyss
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sumguy28 wrote:
Leaving some final thoughts on Tales of the Abyss after 45 hours, 50 minutes, and 40 seconds.
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The combat is definitely the strongest aspect of the game; it just feels so damn satisfying to rack up a 106-hit combo. The difficulty is also very welcome. The stage design... not so much. Most of the stages consist of narrow hallways that all look the same. The lack of a dungeon minimap really doesn't help when the scenery in the first hallway looks exactly like the fifth hallway. And whose idea was it to place the save points at least a full two-minute walk away from the bosses?
The characters... oh boy. Depending on the direction the game takes with Luca, I might like his character. The rest of the party is just okay, except for Iria and Spada. I feel so conflicted on their characters.
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Oh yeah, and Coda is completely pointless. Even Mieu had more character than that thing.
Also, maybe it's just the fan translation, but I think I've seen the phrases "it would seem" and "let it go" several times over. The game is still fun, but there are several odd design choices.
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Ilia is shown to be teasing towards Luca, Luca himself as very weak and introverted and Spada... I think he's more shown as Luca's friend, but not much of a teaser... then again, Spada was kind of a not-really-noticeable guy...
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-Luca's character did take the direction I was hoping it would take. So yeah, he's all right.
-Iria and Spada have sort of redeemed themselves by the end. Sort of.
-The final dungeon really need work. Out of all the
-I'm still deciding if being able to kill the final boss with a 999-hit combo was good or bad game design.
-I don't know much about the quality of the villains in the Tales Series, but I doubt they could be as one dimensional as the villains in this game. To count:
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Spoiler: Also worth noting
Bottom line: it was an okay game. Not as good as Abyss, but still decent enough.
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Yggdrasill in Symphonia. Sympathetic reason, yeah the game is pretty heavy on the racism thing, but Yggdrasill is the type of villain where I can see WHY he comes up with the stupid idea to do things the way he does. So he was done okay as a sympathetic villain.
Dhaos gets a sympathetic reason for his actions... during the cutscenes of the ending. You never find out his sympathetic reason until you have killed him, finishing the game. So you are perfectly allowed to hate him as much as you want throughout the entire game and only get a slight pang of "Oh my god... I'm a monster..." during the ending.
Then again, I can also say that Dhaos' way of doing things CAUSED things to happen, too.
"They mustn't create a Mana Cannon! It will drain the life of the World Tree and kill it! I must stop them... I will ATTACK THE PLACE THAT IS BUILDING A MANA CANNON so that it will NOT build a Mana Cannon - OmG they hurried up and built the mana cannon and are using it! YOU FOOLS!"
The rest of the villains... are hit and miss. Although I think the WORST one I have encountered to date was Lambda from Graces.
Spoiler: Tales of Graces: Lambda
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...Alvin is way cooler than any of ToS's characters, tho.
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(I would get his swimsuit DLC... but I'm playing it with my friend on his PS3/copy of the game, so can't spend his money on that xP)
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CatMuto wrote:
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I AM EXTREMELY DISTURBED!!
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Pfft, what could possibly be so distur-
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sumguy28 wrote:
Is it me, or is the combat in the first Radiant Mythology slower compared to the other games? I greatly enjoyed the combat in both Abyss and Innocence, but here, it just feels like a drag. That, and I feel like this game is trying too hard to get me to like Kanonno without actually showing me what she's capable of.
Much as I like the Radiant Mythology games, I will say that RM1 is... not just heavily outdated compared to the 2nd and 3rd Game, but that it is also... nothing against the game, but it feels like it was done half-heartedly. I think RM1 was like a little experiment of theirs - how popular would a game be where you customize your own character who plays a vital role, with a handful of new characters, but you have various Tales Of characters that you can recruit and interact with in the game?
Turns out, it was pretty popular! Got a 2nd and 3rd Game! But those were unfortunately not released in the Western market... which is really sad because Radiant Mythology 2 totally improves a lot of things in RM 1! Bigger cast (including Yuri and Estelle, though Yuri is lacking a ton of skills), funnier skits, though I will say the villain isn't much better... then again, none of the villains in RM games are very good...
Yes for RM1, the battle system is pretty slow. It's basically a take on the Abyss battle system, minus FoF changes and party members asking if they can use an item to heal themselves, with lots of Abyss enemies.
And yes, the game shoves Kannono in your face. She is the canon (ha!) love interest for the player character. Which overall isn't terrible, it's just that in RM1, the text between her interaction with a male descender is not changed with her interaction with a female descender - so you play the game as a girl and Kannono is totally crushing on you and in love with you... nothing against that, really, it just feels so odd. (RM2 and RM3 make her more sisterly when interacting with the descender, though there the emphasis is a BIT less on her)
Spoiler: One Question I Ask Myself When I played RM1 - RM1 Spoilers
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I've even played a couple Japanese only spin off titles such as the Narikiri dungeon games, Tales of Versus (AMAZING GAME) and Tales of Twin Brave.
I started with Symphonia on GC like most tales fans, and My favourite ones are Vesperia, Symphonia and Graces f ~ <3
I'm curious to hear other people's opinion of the upcoming Zestiria.
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As for Zestiria... it never made much impact on me when it was initially revealed so I haven't stayed up to date with its news.
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CatMuto wrote:
Can I ask what you like about Graces f?
Ahh, I take it you weren't too fond of Graces? A lot of Tales fans aren't. I like it, for SO many reasons though:
- The characters. Malik, (my favourite), Richard, and Sophie were just really beautiful characters in my opinion. I loved their stories, and heart warming relationship struggles. But I REALLY enjoyed how each character had a defined relationship with every other character, unlike in symphonia, (ex how Kratos never once spoke a word directly to Sheena, Regal Presea ect)
- The Story. In my eyes, it has such a beautiful, deep narrative solely about friendship and human relationships. Usually games and have that cheesey "With friends, I can do anything," and "friend ship is power" but friendship isnt the main story plot in those games, where as it is in Graces. Because Graces purely focuses on what it means to be a friend, it delved deeper into the obstacles and richness in human relationships.
- The humour. DEFINTELY had the funniest skits in any tales game ever! And the humour went deeper to even make fun of itself, and it's cheeseyness! Such as Asbel's generic protagonist need to protect, and Cheria's typical, "oh I obviously secretly like the main boy character but he's oblivious. "
-and finally the battle system. It took getting used to, and i too was critical and judgemental of it when i first played it, but its definitely the best battle systems in the series in my opinion. I like because the game is ACTUALLY HARD ( I played on evil mode), and the battle system even works into the overall theme of friendship and relationships. If you and your friends time your attacks with precision, you will be unstoppable, but when one teammate dies, you find your whole team dying off quickly.
Basically, it's all the little things make it wonderful in my eyes ^u^
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As for Zestiria... it never made much impact on me when it was initially revealed so I haven't stayed up to date with its news.
Hoo, Yeah I sadly feel the same.
Not to be judgey but it looks kinda generic to me. 
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Ahh, I take it you weren't too fond of Graces?
Not really. It's not really a bad game, I just feel it did missteps that just were missteps to me.
Spoiler: Graces Character
Pascal is positive and kind of entertaining, but I don't see why people love her SO much. I mean, she's fun. But not THAT great. Also, can we agree that Cheria is, like, the worst character? Marik himself didn't leave much of an impact on me... he's the "generic cool older guy".
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In my eyes, it has such a beautiful, deep narrative solely about friendship and human relationships.
Well, if you say so... I feel like they went at it rather childishly. You know, constantly shouting that they are FRIENDS and nothing with harm their FRIENDSHIP... And even then, if their message of what friendship is, is "Always trust your friend, even when they do terrible things" I can say I can do without that just fine. If I think a friend of mine did something really terrible, I will call them out on it. Which Graces didn't seem to do, as pointed out in the character spoiler, it's more like some kept being in denial about it.
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The humour. DEFINTELY had the funniest skits in any tales game ever!
Oh, I definitely agree on the skits - especially the one in that one city with the bell tower (Graselyde? Gryasled? I forget already, I only played it once.) where Pascal talks about Asbel and Richard constantly being all "mwah-mwah" and "hanky panky" toward each other. That made me laugh!
The skit of The Mask Of Barona... did not... and neither did most of the other skits, actually. And Cheria's "I love Asbel but he doesn't knoooooow!" was... well, I think Cheria is the worst character, so... (She has a pretty cool fighting style, though)
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and finally the battle system
I thought it was okay. Not a great system, but not a bad one, either. I just didn't like how, in order to get more EXP, I had to play on higher difficulties, when I would have much more preferred to just get good EXP but still play on lower difficulties so I can focus on the story and what's going on, instead of dreading every boss battle because they would be difficult. (That stupid boar thing in front of that one place, in the snowy place, made me rage quit for a while - Strangely enough, the three optional dragons were much easier for me, even underleveled)
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You know, constantly shouting that they are FRIENDS and nothing with harm their FRIENDSHIP... And even then, if their message of what friendship is, is "Always trust your friend, even when they do terrible things" I can say I can do without that just fine. If I think a friend of mine did something really terrible, I will call them out on it. Which Graces didn't seem to do, as pointed out in the character spoiler, it's more like some kept being in denial about it.
Spoiler: The broken friendship
Oh I never played the game on normal mode, so I didn't really even know how hard the bosses would have been on that mode. I personally love losing in Tales games, because it makes it really fun for me to try again and win. But trust me, the extra EXP on Evil mode and all, doesn't matter cuz the bosses will whoop you regardless
When a Tales is SOOOO easy, I get kinda upset. It's a large reason why I have a distaste for Abyss.
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Acctuaallyyyyy, Pascal was my least favourite character... I didn't think she was all that funny, and she seemed really over the top, and her quirkiness was so predictable and it got old fast. I didn't hate Cheria's presence, and she was just the typical cute girly, caring girl type character.
I find Pascal okay. She's definitely a bit TOO quirky and positive at times, which can be pretty jarring considering that some of the scenes are definitely supposed to be serious and she kind of ruins it. I think the only reason I "hate" Pascal is because of the same reason I hate the entire F Arc of the game.
Absolutely, constantly shoving in my face how Pascal and Hubert are totally into each other. (Or, in Pascal's brainscattered way, as into someone as she can be while busy inventing and all) It's, of course, not as bad as the F Arc is with Asbel and Cheria, but... still pretty annoying.
And my problem with Cheria is... okay, she was first shown as a sickly kid that had an obvious crush on Asbel. Okay, whatever, if you have to. When she first reappears after the 7 year time skip, she seems to have gotten healthy and DEFINITELY seems to have gotten over her crush on Asbel. She even yells at him for his irresponsible, dumb way of running off and not contacting anyone for years! I loved that!
But...!
Unfortunately... that was the highlight of her entire character. After she yells at Asbel, she quickly goes into the background and then the game pretty much forgets about her. She's just there, she's kind of the nice girl, but she is absolutely bland and lacking anything in terms of personality. Then comes the F Arc and suddenly it's slamming my face into the game saying "Asbel and Cheria are totally in love! THEY ARE IN LOVE!! DO YOU GET IT?! DO YOU GET IT!?" which... I HATE it when a game shoves a specific pairing into my face, especially if it's one I don't really believe (like Squall and Rinoa from FF VIII or Luke and Tear from Tales of the Abyss), but the F Arc seems like it was created JUST so that one thing is not made "Well that came outta nowhere!" in the final FMV.
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When a Tales is SOOOO easy, I get kinda upset. It's a large reason why I have a distaste for Abyss.
...well, Abyss was pretty difficult in the beginning, but I wouldn't say it was absolutely easy after. Did you play on Unknown? (Better yet, play the Japanese PS2's Unknown version, where the multiplier for parameters was x4 and not x3.5, as it was lowered for the localized release)
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PS: I can honestly say, though, out of the Tales Of games I have played, Graces has the WORST dungeon designs...
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First, the "acceptance" system. You pick up the game, you want to fight with your favorite Tales Series characters (not that it really applies to me, considering I've only played two games, of which characters from only one of those are present), only to find that they rejected your invitation. Instead, you need to keep doing meaningless quest after meaningless quest until they accept you. And even when they have accepted you, sometimes they still refuse. Ever since Senel joined the guild, I have tried countless times to get him to join the party. He never accepted, even after he "thought of the player character as a good friend." Sure, you can't just expect people to accept you immediately, but this is a non-sexual fanservice crossover action JRPG. I think the player already has a bit of suspension of disbelief.
It doesn't really help that until then, you're stuck with other randomly named blank slates for party members. Raise your hand if you really liked working alongside Mustafa. No? Didn't think so. If they wanted to use this system, they could have at least given us someone with an identity to work with early on. You know, someone who the game keeps shoving in your face, claiming she's a productive member of Ad Libitum, obviously wanting you to bond with her so when the obvious bad thing happens, you actually care?
Which brings me to the next point: Kanonno the obligatory crossover OC. I didn't hate her, but at the same time, there wasn't much about her to like. Aside from taking care of the invisible orphans, I can't remember a single thing she actually did over the course of the game before the obvious reveal. Making her a party member wouldn't exactly "fix" her, but it would at least allow the player to bond with her at least a little.
Lastly, the actual meat of the game. It took twenty-seven hours and fifteen minutes for me to reach the end, and I'm pretty sure I spent at least half of that time grinding. And while I know I missed out on a ton of call backs, for the most part, I didn't find the skits very amusing. Though I will admit that Kratos pointing out that Mormo shouldn't exist, Tear aggressively petting Mormo, Luke wanting to punt Mormo, and the dialogue option "Smack Mormo." did give me a few laughs.
Also, I think the final boss was designed to give me Ansem flashbacks, but I don't hold that against the game.
Anyways, I started playing Radiant Mythology 3 with just the names and menus translated. Even though I have no idea what anyone is saying, I already find this much better than the first. The combat feels faster, Jade Curtiss is in this game, this game's Kanonno isn't being shoved in my face as much and actually does something (I think), party members aren't refusing for no justifiable reason, the dungeons are much more varied in design, and the number of recruitable characters is extensive.
And I'm totally making good use of that extensive cast.
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