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Young!Franny is the most cute character ever. Do you agree? Seeing her interact with Edgeworth, the height jokes, funny as hell.
Before playing AAI, I knew that she was going to appear, but when she arrived the Airport, I just screamed of joy.
Also, I keep wondering why she doesn't whip women.
So, how about you? How do you feel about Franziska in AAI?
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Auraion wrote:
Also, I keep wondering why she doesn't whip women.
Well, you should try to detect it. It's not too late.
also, yeah, Franziska is awesome, she has some of the best lines with Edgeworth, especially when they're both Young. I think it would be great if you played a flashback or case-within-a-case as her in the next game.
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Icarus wrote:
Auraion wrote:
Also, I keep wondering why she doesn't whip women.
Well, you should try to detect it. It's not too late.
Is that what I'm thinking?
Icarus wrote:
also, yeah, Franziska is awesome, she has some of the best lines with Edgeworth, especially when they're both Young. I think it would be great if you played a flashback or case-within-a-case as her in the next game.
YES that would be epic.
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Auraion wrote:
Icarus wrote:
Auraion wrote:
Also, I keep wondering why she doesn't whip women.
Well, you should try to detect it. It's not too late.
Is that what I'm thinking?
Are you thinking that you should whip it? Into shape?
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Auraion wrote:
Also, I keep wondering why she doesn't whip women.
She's whipped Lotta Hart plenty of times in JFA.
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She's whipped Lotta Hart plenty of times in JFA.
Not sure she counts...
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Anyway, I loved Franziska in this game. I've always liked her but the interactions and chemistry with Edgeworth and her really make me like her character on a whole new level.
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Auraion wrote:
Also, I keep wondering why she doesn't whip women.
I REALLY wanted her to whip Cammy XD
I loved little Fran. At first I was like "oh fuck off and shut up" but she's SO CUTE. I love how she doesn't like to ask for stuff like the swiss roll, she hints instead XD!
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Ah, um... eh? wrote:
QBnoYouko wrote:
She's whipped Lotta Hart plenty of times in JFA.
Not sure she counts...
She's also whipped Maya and "Ini Miney."
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Also, is anyone else found hilarious how much she pays attention to flowers, grandfather clock, the room's design and all the pretty things? I love how she suddenly started to discuss it with Edgeworth in the middle of investigation. x)
Auraion wrote:
Also, I keep wondering why she doesn't whip women.
I think that the only whipping taboo for her is elders, because of her good manners (well, except the Judge). x)
She is just more careful with whipping women because.. you know, not so many of them would endure that peacefully like men do. That could end with a catfight. xD
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.:looby:. wrote:
Auraion wrote:
Also, I keep wondering why she doesn't whip women.
I REALLY wanted her to whip Cammy XD
Me too.
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Ah, um... eh? wrote:
QBnoYouko wrote:
She's whipped Lotta Hart plenty of times in JFA.
Not sure she counts...
She's also whipped Maya and "Ini Miney."
Ini is annoying, but why would she whip maya?
So, have you noticed that she says "fool" less than the other games?
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So, have you noticed that she says "fool" less than the other games?
Yeah, I noticed that. Another thing I noticed is that she addressees people by their first and last name less often.
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Auraion wrote:
Adrian in black wrote:
Ah, um... eh? wrote:
Not sure she counts...
She's also whipped Maya and "Ini Miney."
Ini is annoying, but why would she whip maya?
She was probably in a bad mood about her lack of a perfect win record. It seemed everyone got it at least once in 2-3.
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Meenyman wrote:
Auraion wrote:
So, have you noticed that she says "fool" less than the other games?
Yeah, I noticed that. Another thing I noticed is that she addressees people by their first and last name less often.
I think that's because most of times she's more calmer then in previous games. She was usually pissed off around Phoenix and others, but Edgeworth seem to have good influence on her - she starts thinking more about how overcome him in something then whipping everybody around and call them foolish fools. xD
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I noticed that too. The first time Franziska said, "Miles," I literally went O_O. She called him by his first name, and not even Larry does that. In a professional setting, I thought she would've at least called him by his last name. I find it really cute and endearing that she's the only character in the entire game who actually calls him Miles (unless I'm forgetting someone).
It's natural to call a person, who you consider as your brother by his first name. =) She calls him by full name to tease him, and just "Miles" in usual conversation. But I also find it cute, yes. :3
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But she's also got unwritten rules about whipping. She never once whipped Bikini or Acro. They have physical problems, and it's not in good taste to whip those. Pearl is a frail little girl. There's nothing funny about whipping her.
Franny's chances of whipping a person are directly tied to their comedic nature and physical state. Butz, Moe, Lotta, Edgeworth, they're all funny and in good health. That's grounds right there for her to go whippy whip on.
Also, check out the Characters page. There's a sizable difference with the Male to Female ratio. It's only natural that she'd be whipping guys more.
But anyways, back to why I was going to post in the first place.
Right now, I think Franny is one of the best
What I found made Franny special, in GK1-4 in particular, was how she, unwittingly at least, helped the case along with her jousting with Edgeworth. When Franny argues her case about the murder, it is exactly as it appears, at least to her. Franny being on the ball about the case gives Edgeworth a detailed excuse to take his 'Logic' mode to the next level. But instead of joining simple ideas, he's able to debate the situation, and counter point Franny's deductions. Even if Franny fails, she actually does more to actively move the case forward then most of the Aids before her. I now have genuine respect for her character.
And for reference, the only aids I've actually found useful were Kay, Ema and Grossburg. Kay has little Thief and that's fairly self explanatory why I think she's useful. Ema has her bag of investigative tools in GS1-5, which is also self explanatory. Grossburg, less obviously, is the only aid that left mid trial to go do research, and bring back evidence.
You could actually also make a case for Gumshoe being a good aid, as he's the only one legally allowed to tamper with the crime scene; Except, well, tampering with the crime scene hasn't stopped Phoenix or Apollo ever.
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Another good reason not to hit Bikini-she's a nun. No matter what religion you are, hitting a nun is (pardon the pun) bad karma. Franziska only hits people she can intimidate, and when someone isn't going to put up with it, she hits someone else instead. That's why she hits Phoenix instead of Pearl and Godot or Edgeworth and Gumshoe instead of
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Right now, I think Franny is one of the best Defense Aids. Pearl and Maya've only ever been good for summoning Mia; and once summoned she doesn't do much. In fact, the lot of Aids, Diego, Kristoph, Phoenix, Maggey, and Trucy to an extent don't do much to help the case along.
What I found made Franny special, in GK1-4 in particular, was how she, unwittingly at least, helped the case along with her jousting with Edgeworth. When Franny argues her case about the murder, it is exactly as it appears, at least to her. Franny being on the ball about the case gives Edgeworth a detailed excuse to take his 'Logic' mode to the next level. But instead of joining simple ideas, he's able to debate the situation, and counter point Franny's deductions. Even if Franny fails, she actually does more to actively move the case forward then most of the Aids before her. I now have genuine respect for her character.
And for reference, the only aids I've actually found useful were Kay, Ema and Grossburg. Kay has little Thief and that's fairly self explanatory why I think she's useful. Ema has her bag of investigative tools in GS1-5, which is also self explanatory. Grossburg, less obviously, is the only aid that left mid trial to go do research, and bring back evidence.
You could actually also make a case for Gumshoe being a good aid, as he's the only one legally allowed to tamper with the crime scene; Except, well, tampering with the crime scene hasn't stopped Phoenix or Apollo ever.
What I found made Franny special, in GK1-4 in particular, was how she, unwittingly at least, helped the case along with her jousting with Edgeworth. When Franny argues her case about the murder, it is exactly as it appears, at least to her. Franny being on the ball about the case gives Edgeworth a detailed excuse to take his 'Logic' mode to the next level. But instead of joining simple ideas, he's able to debate the situation, and counter point Franny's deductions. Even if Franny fails, she actually does more to actively move the case forward then most of the Aids before her. I now have genuine respect for her character.
And for reference, the only aids I've actually found useful were Kay, Ema and Grossburg. Kay has little Thief and that's fairly self explanatory why I think she's useful. Ema has her bag of investigative tools in GS1-5, which is also self explanatory. Grossburg, less obviously, is the only aid that left mid trial to go do research, and bring back evidence.
You could actually also make a case for Gumshoe being a good aid, as he's the only one legally allowed to tamper with the crime scene; Except, well, tampering with the crime scene hasn't stopped Phoenix or Apollo ever.
If it weren't for Mia, Phoenix would have lost A LOT of cases. Maggey reminded Phoenix how to be a lawyer when he had amnesia. In 4-2, Trucy is the first one to notice that Stickler witnessed the crime from the north, and in 4-3 she notices that the crimes were comitted according to the lyrics of "The Guitar's Serenade". As for Phoenix...
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I think Franziska needs more love, she must adopt that dog. Franny likes Missile, maybe because Manfred never let her have a dog.
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She just can't have a pet because she's always traveling and have no time to take care of it. TT
She can have a pet rock.
She can just pretend it's part of the evidence.
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If it weren't for Mia, Phoenix would have lost A LOT of cases. Maggey reminded Phoenix how to be a lawyer when he had amnesia. In 4-2, Trucy is the first one to notice that Stickler witnessed the crime from the north, and in 4-3 she notices that the crimes were comitted according to the lyrics of "The Guitar's Serenade". As for Phoenix... He helped 1-1 through 3-5 to move along He pretty much solved 4-1. Apollo was just standing at the defense bench, following allong with Phoenix's "game". In my opinion, they all help the case move along, except for Kristoph, who probably didn't want the trial to progress, and Diego, who just stands there and looks cool.
With regards to Mia, she did help bag White in 1-2; and she did help the police save Maya in 2-4. But with the vast majority of cases; And the cases in GS3 in particular, where she has an opportunity to take on Godot with whom we had all flash back build up between those two, she did nothing. NOTHING. GS3 was practically her story, and when it came time for her to shine, she didn't.
Maggey I considered useless because she's a witness to her own murder trial, and didn't offer anything useful in her own defense.
With Trucy and Wright. I admit I was a bit short sighted. Well played. They still aren't my favorite aids, but they do have their points.
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Aevitas wrote:
I noticed that too. The first time Franziska said, "Miles," I literally went O_O. She called him by his first name, and not even Larry does that. In a professional setting, I thought she would've at least called him by his last name. I find it really cute and endearing that she's the only character in the entire game who actually calls him Miles (unless I'm forgetting someone).
Redd White.
But it can hardly be considered cute or endearing when he does it.
...or can it
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Satoshi wrote:
She just can't have a pet because she's always traveling and have no time to take care of it. TT
She can have a pet rock.
She can just pretend it's part of the evidence.
Why do I think this would be the funniest thing ever.
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Adrian in black wrote:
Satoshi wrote:
She just can't have a pet because she's always traveling and have no time to take care of it. TT
She can have a pet rock.
She can just pretend it's part of the evidence.
Why do I think this would be the funniest thing ever.
Hmm... well...
If for some reason her whip broke, she could use the rock on incompetents, and then later, in private, praise it for its usefulness.
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Adrian in black wrote:
Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Adrian in black wrote:
She can have a pet rock.
She can just pretend it's part of the evidence.
She can just pretend it's part of the evidence.
Why do I think this would be the funniest thing ever.
Hmm... well...
If for some reason her whip broke, she could use the rock on incompetents, and then later, in private, praise it for its usefulness.
You people have great imagination. xD It would be funny if somebody would accidentally saw her doing that. xDD
Besides, once she said something about her whip has it's own personality, so I wouldn't be surprised much if she talks with it sometimes. x)))
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Adrian in black wrote:
Satoshi wrote:
She just can't have a pet because she's always traveling and have no time to take care of it. TT
She can have a pet rock.
She can just pretend it's part of the evidence.
Maybe her pet rock (or seashell?) is named nick
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As for Franny's dog, I think she'd have a whippet 8D
I always wanted to see her with one after she mentioned it in T&T* XD
*I think that happened anyway..
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A little comic:
"Franziska's Repressed memories."
"Franziska's Repressed memories."
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.:looby:. wrote:
Auraion wrote:
Also, I keep wondering why she doesn't whip women.
I REALLY wanted her to whip Cammy XD
IIRC, it's implied she did off-screen, or at least Edgeworth wonders how she got any info out of her. And then I think the other times she doesn't whip Cammy is so Edgeworth can bitch about her not doing so, more than because she won't.
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Auraion wrote:
A little comic:
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"Franziska's Repressed memories."
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LOL you win a
.... this would explain why she is so bitter towards everybody.anyway..... Does anyone else find it odd that Franziska is the daughter of Manfred Von Karma, even though the age difference between them is almost 50 years? Makes me wonder if she was adopted. I just replayed 1-4 from PWAA after beating AAI. Manfred at some point in that case mentions that he has a grand-daughter. Apparently there is much more to the Von Karma family than has been revealed.
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anyway..... Does anyone else find it odd that Franziska is the daughter of Manfred Von Karma, even though the age difference between them is almost 50 years? Makes me wonder if she was adopted.
It's not unusual for old men to get women pregnant, his wife is probably just a bit younger than him
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.:looby:. wrote:
mdquak wrote:
anyway..... Does anyone else find it odd that Franziska is the daughter of Manfred Von Karma, even though the age difference between them is almost 50 years? Makes me wonder if she was adopted.
It's not unusual for old men to get women pregnant, his wife is probably just a bit younger than him
They never say anything about fran's mom, do they? I dunno why I'm thinking that she was 18 when her first daughter was born.
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A little comic:
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"Franziska's Repressed memories."
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.:looby:. wrote:
mdquak wrote:
anyway..... Does anyone else find it odd that Franziska is the daughter of Manfred Von Karma, even though the age difference between them is almost 50 years? Makes me wonder if she was adopted.
It's not unusual for old men to get women pregnant, his wife is probably just a bit younger than him
They never say anything about fran's mom, do they? I dunno why I'm thinking that she was 18 when her first daughter was born.
I always thought of Franziska as an illegitimate child for some reason. Mainly because I don't see Manfred being the "committed relationship" type.
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They never say anything about fran's mom, do they? I dunno why I'm thinking that she was 18 when her first daughter was born.
I always thought of Franziska as an illegitimate child for some reason. Mainly because I don't see Manfred being the "committed relationship" type.
Really? I figured the opposite. I'd think that having a wife and kids would be his vision of a "perfect" home life.
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