Re: Gyakuten Saiban 5: The Long and the Short of it
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@Neni: Ah, I see. I think I'll agree with you on that one; GK1 had a nice overarching plot (mostly between the first and last cases; the connections in cases 2 and 3 were basically tacked on), and GK2 had an insane overarching plot, but the connection didn't feel as strong to Edgeworth as the plot did in Nick in GS1 and 3 and to Polly in GS4.
And about writing... in general I'm pretty uncritical about writing, and then when it's in Japanese and it's a struggle just to understand it... It gets even harder for me to do anything critical in terms of the writing.
(And I also really liked GK2-3, and the flashbacks in that case were the only segments where I didn't hate Shigaraki xP)
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CatMuto wrote:
I keep having to tell myself that the weird thing is a helmet and not his hair... and now that I look closer, I think the little part of his hair visible is a brown shade. So either Payne has gone the color way of hiding his increasing baldness, or it's someone else.
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Or.. it could be a wig.
Also, for Payne.. It IS Payne, no doubt about that. It just has to be him.
The beginning was quite fun, just with all the ups and downs
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But suddenly, we’re tired, from a waste of meaningless emotions
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...Also, must calculate probability of New Girl being named Artemis (or Luna. Or Selena. Or whatever other moon goddess...) Should also stop playing ME2&3 so I'll stop talking like Mordin.
I will miss Polly though, with his chords of steel and antenna.
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Kimia wrote:
...Also, must calculate probability of New Girl being named Artemis (or Luna. Or Selena. Or whatever other moon goddess...)
The creators said something about her looking like an Alien when she was designed, so names like that might be her English name.
Also, on the whole "1st case villain" talk. It's got to be Payne!
They're both saying "kuku" when laughing.
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Pierre wrote:
For all those questioning Payne's Wig/hair, I heard it was meant to be his brother.
So there is still the question if Payne himself or his brother are the culprit (or maybe a third brother of the Payne family)?
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Barely. It's plausible, but first cases aren't generally that complicated.
Yeah, but after 4-1 and GK2-1... who knows xP
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But answer me this then. Why would they need a second Payne? Unless of course they needed someone disposable. (After all, what is an Ace Attorney game without crushing Payne first?) And who is more disposable then the guilty party, victim aside. And I kiiiiiinda think Payne 2 is exempt from being the victim of case 1.
Because the first Payne is too old? Retired after the hell of court?
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Wooster wrote:
But answer me this then. Why would they need a second Payne? Unless of course they needed someone disposable. (After all, what is an Ace Attorney game without crushing Payne first?) And who is more disposable then the guilty party, victim aside. And I kiiiiiinda think Payne 2 is exempt from being the victim of case 1.
But that's why Payne 2 could be the killer, Wooster xP So that they can make the killer the prosecutor in the first case, while keeping the tradition of having Payne be the opening prosecutor, without having to turn a longtime series character into a criminal.
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Wooster wrote:
But answer me this then. Why would they need a second Payne? Unless of course they needed someone disposable. (After all, what is an Ace Attorney game without crushing Payne first?) And who is more disposable then the guilty party, victim aside. And I kiiiiiinda think Payne 2 is exempt from being the victim of case 1.
But that's why Payne 2 could be the killer, Wooster xP So that they can make the killer the prosecutor in the first case, while keeping the tradition of having Payne be the opening prosecutor, without having to turn a longtime series character into a criminal.
Well hold now is there any confirmation anyone died in the explosion? I was thinking it was just a case of wrongly accused, Payne takes the case to cover up the damage, Payne gets found out.
Payne destroyed the courtroom after years of hatred for the place where he consistantly got beaten.
I don't think enough people value Payne as for them to refuse to make him a criminal, especially in a case where no one actually dies.
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Pierre wrote:
For all those questioning Payne's Wig/hair, I heard it was meant to be his brother.
So there is still the question if Payne himself or his brother are the culprit (or maybe a third brother of the Payne family)?
Yes. And a fourth Payne member will have built the bomb. And no. 5, Bob Payne, will be the janitor to clean it all up. Not to forget no. 6 who sold the bomb ingredients.
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Wooster wrote:
And that was my point exactly Bad Player. We don't need Winston involved at all in this case, even to throw us off the hook. Payne 2 qualifies as Payne 1 in all the points that matter for a case 1, but disqualified just enough that he'd qualify to be the murderer. Though, this does perpetuate the problem that the staff is too scared to kill someone off.
...So what do we disagree on?
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So there is still the question if Payne himself or his brother are the culprit (or maybe a third brother of the Payne family)?
I was arguing that we won't see more then one Payne for that case, never mind Payne Prime and a third one. Confusion over the identity of which Payne dun what doesn't seem first-casey to me.
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Neni wrote:
The Payne Family is like the Nurse Joys and Officer Jennys of the AA Universe. We never actually faced the same two Paynes. They are all expandable doubles. Headcanon.
Or somewhere there is a great big Payne factory for mass producing clones of the original Payne.
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Has it been confirmed someone died after the bomb exploded? From my perspective, it was just a bombing, not an act of terrorism.
If not, it'll be the first case in Ace Attorney history to not feature a murder (3-3 doesn't count, it turned into a murder case.)
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Reimitsurugi wrote:
Has it been confirmed someone died after the bomb exploded? From my perspective, it was just a bombing, not an act of terrorism.
Not as far as I know. I sure hope that noone actually died. Especially no relevant characters *coughcoughGramayreSiblingscough*. That'd be a cheap way of getting rid of them.
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Neni: I hope they didn't get rid of Apollo or Trucy like that. It would be easy, but cheap....
Am I the only one who thinks that new girl look like Lynne of Ghost Trick? Serioulsy the first time I saw her I was like LYNNE!!!!!!! (surely because of the colors) Though the chances of it being her are, like, impossible. Even though Takumi said that the two games happened in the same world...
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Shao-Mae wrote:
Even though Takumi said that the two games happened in the same world...
Ghost Trick and Gyakuten Saiban take place in the same world?
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Wooster wrote:
I believe I remember Takumi saying as much, though ignoring the shout outs, I don't see any manifested connections. Not to mention that Ghost Trick appears to exist in some imagination of the 80's or earlier there's not really any room to overlap.
Yeah the clothing styles looked like something out of Miami Vice.
This is interesting though. The fact that he mentioned it at all means there must have been some reason why he felt it should be in that universe. But I can't think of any connections, and I think a cross-over would feel awkward and wouldn't work. Especially because the world of Ace Attorney is different and slightly more realistic (slightly, although its just as ridiculous in different ways)
Still, if it technically is in the same universe, I'll play it before GS1in my marathon when GS5 is announced locally, if only to replay an amazing game.
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Roms can be (and have been) dumped, but nobody knows how to decrypt them, I believe. And there's no emulation or flashcard stuff.
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So it seems that there is no longer going to be sprites in this game...But perhaps...There might be some other way for creative works to be made using the new Ace Attorney animations. Perhaps some sort of 3dsmax or source filmmaker models and locations using the game models. Just putting this out there! It could be interesting and some really good machinima could come of it
I remember someone kicking up a major fuss about this the first time PL vs PW was released, unfortunately I highly doubt Capcom will put out a 'source filmmaker' for Ace Attorney, the actual SFM is a rare and unique gem in itself and it's for a series arguably far more popular and well known than AA.
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Are they going to use the judicial system in game
Which one, do you mean the Jurist system from AJ?
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I would bet the Jurist system is used/brought up though, especially because there are more people in the courtroom and the Jurist system actually doesn't change much about the way the verdict is decided. In AJ its stated that the Jury will "assist the judge in finding a verdict" rather than the common jury system where the memebers of the jury find the verdict.
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